pokur:

The Constitution only barred citizens by registration/naturalization from holding any other citizenship except that of their country of birth.A natural-born Nigerian citizen can hold as many citizenship as he likes and still be eligible to contest whatever political post he desires.
You only need to have one Nigerian parent or be born in Nigeria and have one Nigerian grandparent to qualify as a citizen by birth.Read section 25(1a,b,c).Also read sections 28 & 29 on qualification for political post and citizenship renounciation by naturalized/registered citizens.

kasiem:

but, a case was raised about ajimobi's dual citizenship. Again, ben bruce was disqualified as a result of citizenship problems. I'm sure that this people are all having nigerian lineage.

pokur: A case was raised by the Oyo PDP and has been dismissed as incompetent by the tribunal as there are already decided cases by superior courts on this issue as far back as 2004.

ndu_chucks:

In all honesty, you people need to stop this kind of irresponsible pronouncements. Your assertion above is totally false. The case against Ajimomi is not yet over and will be heard again on appeal. The tribunal who dismissed the case did not in any way state that Ajimobi's dual citizenship does not disqualify him from contesting.

The PDP had claimed that the Ajimobi was ineligible to stand for elections having voluntarily acquired the citizenship of the United States of America - an act which required renunciation of his nigerian citizenship.

Ajimobi's counsel had however averred that his client was living in Nigeria and had not relinquished his Nigerian citizenship as of the time he won the election.

The Tribunal noted that the PDP who are the petitioners in the matter relied on documents from the American Embassy in Nigeria, a page on the respondent’s international passport and his social security number.

While reading the ruling, Justice Pindiga pointed out that it is one of the principles of law that averment is not evidence. He stated that despite the fact that the burden of proving the case was on the petitioner, the documents needed to support the claims made (Ajimobi's dual citizenship)were never produced

The story will change on appeal when Akala produces adequate evidence of Ajimobi's US citizenship. Lets wait and see

ndu_chucks:

@Katsumoto,  Look up the law:  8 C.F.R. Part 337 (2008) .

The oath below speaks for itself . You are required to take this oath before becoming naturalized U.S. citizen, its the last thing you do before a judge "welcomes you to America

The current oath is as follows:
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God

abi you be US citizen ni? This issue has been flogged to death in the past. Call it a lie if you wish, but I'll say that it is wise note that if you state under oath in a foreign land that you entirely renounce and abjure all allegiances  to Nigeria, under any condition, you should not be allowed to contest for any ofiice in Nigeria.

Katsumoto:

I don't care about the oath; my post was to correct that factual inaccuracy in your post. Making that oath does not lead to the surrender of a previous citizenship.

Besides, what have those having only Nigerian citizenship done for Nigeria except bleed it dry?

ndu_chucks:

Stop being unnecessarily emotional. The truth of tha matter is, you swear under oath in the presence of a judge that you entirely renounce and abjure all allegiances to Nigeria, as a condition for your U.S. naturalization. This kind of oath is not required in many other countries. If and when the Nigerian supreme court gets a chance to rule on a case such as the Akala's, many may find out that they lost their Nigerian citizenship long ago.

Only a joker or someone in severe denial will believe that a person who entirely renounces and abjures all allegiances to Nigeria under oath, before a judge, has not surrendered his/her Nigerian citizenship. We await the supreme court.

ndu_chucks:

In all honesty, you people need to stop this kind of irresponsible pronouncements. Your assertion above is totally false. The case against Ajimomi is not yet over and will be heard again on appeal. The tribunal who dismissed the case did not in any way state that Ajimobi's dual citizenship does not disqualify him from contesting.

The PDP had claimed that the Ajimobi was ineligible to stand for elections having voluntarily acquired the citizenship of the United States of America - an act which required renunciation of his nigerian citizenship.

Ajimobi's counsel had however averred that his client was living in Nigeria and had not relinquished his Nigerian citizenship as of the time he won the election.

The Tribunal noted that the PDP who are the petitioners in the matter relied on documents from the American Embassy in Nigeria, a page on the respondent’s international passport and his social security number.

While reading the ruling, Justice Pindiga pointed out that it is one of the principles of law that averment is not evidence. He stated that despite the fact that the burden of proving the case was on the petitioner, the documents needed to support the claims made (Ajimobi's dual citizenship)were never produced

The story will change on appeal when Akala produces adequate evidence of Ajimobi's US citizenship. Lets wait and see

ndu_chucks:

In all honesty, you people need to stop this kind of irresponsible pronouncements. Your assertion above is totally false. The case against Ajimomi is not yet over and will be heard again on appeal. The tribunal who dismissed the case did not in any way state that Ajimobi's dual citizenship does not disqualify him from contesting.

The PDP had claimed that the Ajimobi was ineligible to stand for elections having voluntarily acquired the citizenship of the United States of America - an act which required renunciation of his nigerian citizenship.

Ajimobi's counsel had however averred that his client was living in Nigeria and had not relinquished his Nigerian citizenship as of the time he won the election.

The Tribunal noted that the PDP who are the petitioners in the matter relied on documents from the American Embassy in Nigeria, a page on the respondent’s international passport and his social security number.

While reading the ruling, Justice Pindiga pointed out that it is one of the principles of law that averment is not evidence. He stated that despite the fact that the burden of proving the case was on the petitioner, the documents needed to support the claims made (Ajimobi's dual citizenship)were never produced

The story will change on appeal when Akala produces adequate evidence of Ajimobi's US citizenship. Lets wait and see

Katsumoto:

Emotional? What is my own?

So you are now rooting for Akala? You are not championing making your incompetent and corrupt one citizenship leaders accountable; instead you are awaiting a decision from the court nullifying Ajimobi's victory, just so Akala the bleacher can return to the people of Oyo I tire for you Nigerians.

ndu_chucks:

Stop being unnecessarily emotional.  The truth of tha matter is, you swear under oath in the presence of a judge that you entirely renounce and abjure all allegiances  to Nigeria, as a condition for your U.S. naturalization.  This kind of oath is not required in many other countries. If and when the Nigerian supreme court gets a chance to rule on a case such as the Akala's, many may find out that they lost their Nigerian citizenship long ago.

Only a joker or someone in severe denial will believe that a person who entirely renounces and abjures all allegiances  to Nigeria under oath, before a judge, has not surrendered his/her Nigerian citizenship.  We await the supreme court.

ndu_chucks:

    me rooting for Akala? oti o, God forbid bad ting. I want the supreme court to rule once and for all on the issue of whether naturalized US citizens who took the afforementioned oath have in effect given up their Nigerian citizenship. That's all. It would appear on the sufface that naturalized US citizens want to eat their cakes and have it at the same time.

violent:


The Nigerian law is not subjected to American laws, neither does it make provisions for oaths made under foreign constitutions.  If a Nigerian citizen renounces his citizenship, under the Nigerian constitution, in a Nigerian court, approved by a Tribunal or a sitting Judge, only then does he cease to be a Nigerian citizen.

American laws/constitution/oaths are powerless outside America.  A convict in America for instance will have a criminal record ---in America, Once he crosses over the shores into his home country, his records will remain intact!

I believe what the clause will likely imply is that, as long as you take up an American citizenship and you remain in America, your allegiance will be to America and America alone!

kasiem:

sorry, are u saying that someone can perpetrate crime in a country and then be free if he absconds that country? Why is it that USA traced bin laden to pakistan? Again, why is it that nigeria wanted to trace former USA vp to his country during the halliburton scandal?

kasiem:

sorry, are u saying that someone can perpetrate crime in a country and then be free if he absconds that country? Why is it that USA traced bin laden to pakistan? Again, why is it that nigeria wanted to trace former USA vp to his country during the halliburton scandal?

manny4life:

I think you're missing his point; he said "American laws/constitution/oaths are powerless outside America.  A convict in America for instance will have a criminal record ---in America, Once he crosses over the shores into his home country, his records will remain intact! American law and Constitution does not extend to Africa nor Europe, each of these entities have different laws. There are certain crimes, particularly crime against humanity or Terror for instance are different in their own case. In addition, crimes against the UN, particularly those in direct violation of the UN Security Council is seen differently.

Bin Laden committed, orchestrated terrorism "within the shores of the United States", an act of terror is in direct violation of the Security Council. So yes, U.S. laws apply to him to, crimes against humanity will apply to him as well. However, if I had committed a crime of theft or murder (GOD FORBID), and I flee to Germany, unless the U.S. has an extradition relationship with Germany, and put in a request to be extradited, there's nothing much the U.S. can do. I can only have a record in America NOT in Germany nor any Europe nation I visit.

With that being said, Bin Laden was traced because the U.S. was on the hunt for his head; the CIA liaised with their Security Organization because the Pakistani Govt had given the U.S. govt to operate search efforts within the shores of the U.S., the expulsion came after the U.S. raid on his compound. Pakistan expelled the U.S. forces from the country, and the chaos goes on. Therefore, these were not U.S. laws BUT UN war against terror and the victimized country can try them in their country. You can never compare these crimes to theft, drugs, white collar crimes. U.S. laws exist only where it is.

kasiem:

@katsumoto, i think u are getting emotional in this matter, i'd rather we focused our arguments on the rudiments of law than relying on mere fantasies. Does the law make ajimobi extraneous for the post of governance? If yes, he should humbly stick to it. If ajimobi is a nationalist (as u believe), i dont think he would take up the citizenship of another country, cos this action insinuates that he's no longer proud of his country or fed up with the country. If he had gotten the citizenship as an honor, it would've been a different case.

Katsumoto:

Did you say rudiments of law? So I am guessing the rule of law provides for corrupt and incompetent leadership in Nigeria.

Millions of people all over the world take up citizenships of other countries for many reasons ranging from Marriage to migration. It is ludicrous to suggest that those who take up multiple citizens no longer love the country of their birth. I will hazard a guess that Ajimobi is not the only Nigerian leader with dual citizenship.

ndu_chucks:

In all honesty, you people need to stop this kind of irresponsible pronouncements. Your assertion above is totally false. The case against Ajimomi is not yet over and will be heard again on appeal. The tribunal who dismissed the case did not in any way state that Ajimobi's dual citizenship does not disqualify him from contesting.

The PDP had claimed that the Ajimobi was ineligible to stand for elections having voluntarily acquired the citizenship of the United States of America - an act which required renunciation of his nigerian citizenship.

Ajimobi's counsel had however averred that his client was living in Nigeria and had not relinquished his Nigerian citizenship as of the time he won the election.

The Tribunal noted that the PDP who are the petitioners in the matter relied on documents from the American Embassy in Nigeria, a page on the respondent’s international passport and his social security number.

While reading the ruling, Justice Pindiga pointed out that it is one of the principles of law that averment is not evidence. He stated that despite the fact that the burden of proving the case was on the petitioner, the documents needed to support the claims made (Ajimobi's dual citizenship)were never produced

The story will change on appeal when Akala produces adequate evidence of Ajimobi's US citizenship. Lets wait and see

violent:
In theory, Yes!

If you've killed someone in the US and you've managed to flee back into your country, the Nigerian government will not prosecute you based on a crime committed in the US.  You've simply broken a law in the US, not in Nigeria!  What the US government will likely do in this case, is to request for the Nigerian government to extradite you based on existing bilateral agreements. It's entirely up to the Nigerian government to choose whether or not to accede to this request.

Uche2005:

ben bruce was never disqualified because of dual citizen. nigeria law allow people of dual citizen to contest for every position including the president of Nigeria.  The reason ben bruce was disqualified is because Jonathan Goodluck want his own candidate to be governor of the state. And it will be hard for him Jonathan Goodluck to claim that an unknow person won against ben bruce. so jonathan Goodluck got rid of Ben bruce and other so that his candidate can win. that is the way nigerian think.

nigeria law allows everybody with dual citizen to contest for every position. David mark the senate president of nigeria has dual citizenship.