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Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by idahme(m): 6:45pm On May 12
Otamendi99:


Lol. So ifeanyi ubah that moved from YPP to APC will now have his seat vacant or de-recognise?

That process is started by the leadership of the house, no national assembly has ever made us of that before now. Since the leadership has APC and someone is coming into their fold they will never activate it unlike what is going on in Rivers
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by ddippset(m): 6:55pm On May 12
ElevationD:


Thanks for your questions.

1. Do you remember a certain Edison Ehie? Presently he is Fubara’s chief of staff. He was the speaker when the 27 defected to APC. He wrote the notification to INEC declaring the seats of the 27 vacant. INEC acknowledged that document but did not act on it yet. PDP agreed absolutely that having defected to APC, the 27 were no longer their members. For the pendency of this matter, they cannot return to PDP.

2. Their defection was not just by word of mouth. They became card carrying members of APC. We saw them all rejoicing and carrying APC brooms, while declaring their membership of the party.

Lastly, evidences of their membership abound and are awash on social media spaces.
Okay thanks for your detailed explanation.

I really hope there is no lacuna in this case.

Cus I want them all to have their seats declared vacant.

But don't you think only a documentary evidence like a resignation letter and a membership card could be admissible as evidence in court?

I hope they have enough evidence to boot these guys out!
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by walex2(m): 9:02pm On May 12
ElevationD:



Don’t be cheeky.

Where is the illiteracy, with such clearly written words? Do illiterates write in the own native languages, how much more English language?

Take your time to read the constitutional provisions and cease to follow the crowd. The constitution is clear about it and it has been tested in the courts, as far as the Supreme Court, way back in 2015.

Read the 1999 constitution @ chapter-5-part-2-section-109-tenure-of-seat-of-members, to clear your misinformation.

Now if (dis)honorable members choose to apply some braggado, by defecting to other parties, without expecting to pay the price, then it behoves on the citizens to insist on the right thing. It is inappropriate for citizens to look at certain irresponsible behaviors of our leaders and applaud them.

They are the law makers. They are supposed to know the constitution more than us. They break the laws they make at will and make themselves look like the victims. They know that it is a constitutional matter. They chose to abandon the party upon whose platform they contested the election. Without the party, they would never contest, as the party is the vehicle. The votes we cast belong to the party. Since they have abandoned the party, the owners of the votes (in this instance the party), must have their votes back.

They wrongly timed their defections and must bear the consequences. Wike who sponsored them remains in the same PDP shamelessly and thinks that he can influence the courts to misinterpret the constitution in their favour. Fa fa fa fa fa fawol.

While not stopping the now former legislators from exercising their fundamental rights to seek redress in the court, we must not continue to support illegalities on the part of our leaders.

This should serve as a lesson to other legislators across all parties, who only think of their pockets and not the citizens, who they are elected to serve.


Your explanation were well thought of but your submission is still wrong.

You can't build an illegality with illegality, read the part c of the same act you quoted. The constitution still gives a caveat, that the lawmakers could still employed to defend themselves, the caveat was '' if there is a division in the political party that sponsored them '' they could still claim there was division. So the reason we said the court must give a pronouncement that is how the law operates.


See if anyone killed a person today the person will still be presumed innocent until the court convicted him, despite the fact that we all knew that murder case attracts Capital punishment
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by ElevationD: 9:14pm On May 12
ddippset:
Okay thanks for your detailed explanation.

I really hope there is no lacuna in this case.

Cus I want them all to have their seats declared vacant.

But don't you think only a documentary evidence like a resignation letter and a membership card could be admissible as evidence in court?

I hope they have enough evidence to boot these guys out!

Please look this:

https://businessday.ng/politics/article/no-remedy-for-defected-25-rivers-lawmakers-pdp/?amp
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by ElevationD: 9:22pm On May 12
walex2:


Your explanation were well thought of but your submission is still wrong.

You can't build an illegality with illegality, read the part c of the same act you quoted. The constitution still gives a caveat, that the lawmakers could still employed to defend themselves, the caveat was '' if there is a division in the political party that sponsored them '' they could still claim there was division. So the reason we said the court must give a pronouncement that is how the law operates.


See if anyone killed a person today the person will still be presumed innocent until the court convicted him, despite the fact that we all knew that murder case attracts Capital punishment

Now the question is this:

Was there any division in Rivers state at the time? Is there any division in Rivers PDP as of now? The answer is a capital NO. It was politics. Why did Wike not defect with them? The answer simply is that Wike plays the destroyer inside PDP, while regretting not handing over Rivers to APC straight away at the governorship election.

If there is any illegality, it is the 25 currently, who should get the title honorable out of their names, going by the constitution.
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by Xpol: 9:50pm On May 12
idahme:


This guy you still don't understand what is going on grin, after they left the 4 members remaining elected the then speaker Edison Ehie who then declared their seat vacant and the matter proceeded to the court before he resigned and was appointed chief of staff to Governor. This current speaker is replacing Edison Ehie.
They've not left pdp before ehie became fractional speaker.
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by masseratti: 10:00pm On May 12
Has it stands there is nothing like rivers state house of assembly..both the Fubara members..3 members cannot form a quorum talkless of having a speaker.
The 27 members have lost their seats has it stands currently.

The only legal thing is for the national assembly to take over the function of the state assembly until election is conduct to fill in the 28 seats currently vacant ..but all this will only be interpreted by the supreme court,I think thats whay the national assembly is yet to take over the function of the state assembly.

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Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by walex2(m): 6:53am On May 13
ElevationD:


Now the question is this:

Was there any division in Rivers state at the time? Is there any division in Rivers PDP as of now? The answer is a capital NO. It was politics. Why did Wike not defect with them? The answer simply is that Wike plays the destroyer inside PDP, while regretting not handing over Rivers to APC straight away at the governorship election.

If there is any illegality, it is the 25 currently, who should get the title honorable out of their names, going by the constitution.
They can't decamp without wike permission, and are they the first or last assembly members to defect? Recently one senator and 3 rep members detected to APC they are still keeping their seat until the court say otherwise
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by ElevationD: 8:37am On May 13
walex2:
They can't decamp without wike permission, and are they the first or last assembly members to defect? Recently one senator and 3 rep members detected to APC they are still keeping their seat until the court say otherwise


Now you have understood it all. However please stop going around in circles in the face of the obvious. Let’s not encourage leaders to make defection their habit. The only reason for defection is for self purposes and not the people.

So if APC supporters vote for their candidate, they do so for the love of their party. If the candidate defects, he must drop the seat and continue with his new party.

Those who keep their seats use what is called “ogboju”. They make the laws. They must not break them.
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by Otamendi99(m): 11:25am On May 13
idahme:


That process is started by the leadership of the house, no national assembly has ever made us of that before now. Since the leadership has APC and someone is coming into their fold they will never activate it unlike what is going on in Rivers

So who now activated it in rivers HOA and even if it is in court, wat did dey say?
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by Otamendi99(m): 11:26am On May 13
ElevationD:


YPP must follow up to reclaim their seat. The seat belongs to the party and not Ifeanyi Ubah.

Again, INEC must wake up to its responsibilities. The constitution is clear on it and INEC without delay must declare the seats vacant, once they get the information from the affected party.

So y have PDP not don so and follow up to reclaim their seats in rivers?
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by ElevationD: 11:35am On May 13
Otamendi99:


So y have PDP not don so and follow up to reclaim their seats in rivers?

Please follow up with political events and see what’s happening at the PDP end.
Re: Why Fubara Cannot Be Impeached by kinsnazzy: 10:26am On May 26
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