United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll - Foreign Affairs (10)

Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,162,356 members, 7,850,305 topics. Date: Tuesday, 04 June 2024 at 06:03 PM

United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll - Foreign Affairs (10) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Foreign Affairs / United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll (27064 Views)

African Union Summit Reverses Decision On Israel’s Observer Status / The New United Nations Guardian Sculpture For Peace And Safety ( Pics) / United Nations Headquarters Locked Down As Man Holds Shot Gun To Chin (Pix, Vid) (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by tctrills: 8:50am On May 15

DeepSight:

Is Hamas a signatory to the Geneva?

So your point is that Hamas is in line with you he treaty because they are not signatory right?
You keep showing off your ignorance. Are you signatory to the Nigerian constitution?
Go ahead and break the law of the land and then tell the Judge that you are not a signatory to the law. angry

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by DeepSight(m): 8:58am On May 15

tctrills:

Oga more education for you. Below is a summary of the Geneva treaties. Please explain how the concerns the West Bank? Let's see who the ignorant one is.
The Geneva Conventions are a set of international treaties governing the conduct of armed conflict. They establish protections for civilians, prisoners of war, and wounded or sick combatants. The conventions outline rules for the humane treatment of individuals during conflicts, including prohibitions against torture, cruelty, and indiscriminate attacks. They also mandate the establishment of mechanisms to ensure compliance and provide assistance to victims of war.

*Sigh*

Ok, here goes. Please open your ears and eyes this time oh. Because I am tired.
This is a take from the International Committe of the Red Cross which is explanatory.

"The ICRC's official position is that the West Bank has been occupied by Israel since 1967. Consequently, the ICRC has repeatedly stated that Israel settlements' policy goes against key provisions of International Humanitarian Law (IHL), specifically the law of occupation, and is contrary to its intent and spirit. The 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention (GCIV) prohibits an Occupying Power from transferring its own population into the territories under its occupation. Therefore, Israel's settlements policy in the West Bank contradicts the Fourth Geneva Convention. Settlement expansion – be it through formal expansion of existing settlements or through the largely unchecked spread of unauthorized outposts – is the key source of legal and humanitarian concerns in the West Bank. With its decades-long presence in the occupied Palestinian territory, the ICRC has been a witness to settlements' impact. They restrict Palestinians' freedom of movement and affect the social and economic fabric of entire communities. They can limit Palestinians' access to their agricultural lands, natural resources or medical services. They also contribute to violence between Israeli settlers and Palestinian communities."

https://www.icrc.org/en/document/ihl-occupying-power-responsibilities-occupied-palestinian-territories

Now understood?

I hope you will not be so daft as to continue in your ways by now asking me whether Israel is bound by the views of the ICRC. Because I will not put such an infantile question beyond you.

Now that is one. Two, let's quickly treat your confusion on the United Nations. The U.N is not a court. The question concerns borders. Israel was set up under the auspices of the U.N British Mandate for Palestine. This puts that organization in an eminent position to speak to the issues as they arise from the matter of borders. Its not about harping on and on about whether Israel is bound. Every sovereign state can choose how it conducts itself whether that be rougue conduct or responsible conduct. The International community is virtually unanimous on the question of the illegality of the West Bank Settlements. This is not a matter for dispute and is generally beyond cavil in the international coummunity.

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by DeepSight(m): 8:59am On May 15

tctrills:

So your point is that Hamas is in line with you he treaty because they are not signatory right?

Jesus wept.
One can't make this level of mental retardation up. One honestly can't.

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by tctrills: 9:11am On May 15

DeepSight:

Jesus wept.
One can't make this level of mental retardation up. One honestly can't.

You can keep up with the insults. It's clear you are trying to hide from your ignorance. You believe Hamas is innocent because they are not signatory but somehow, you think I am the retarded one. Very funny. grin

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by tctrills: 9:14am On May 15

DeepSight:

*Sigh*

Ok, here goes. Please open your ears and eyes this time oh. Because I am tired.
This is a take from the International Committe of the Red Cross which is explanatory.

"The ICRC's official position is that the West Bank has been occupied by Israel since 1967. Consequently, the ICRC has repeatedly stated that Israel settlements' policy goes against key provisions of International Humanitarian Law (IHL), specifically the law of occupation, and is contrary to its intent and spirit. The 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention (GCIV) prohibits an Occupying Power from transferring its own population into the territories under its occupation. Therefore, Israel's settlements policy in the West Bank contradicts the Fourth Geneva Convention. Settlement expansion – be it through formal expansion of existing settlements or through the largely unchecked spread of unauthorized outposts – is the key source of legal and humanitarian concerns in the West Bank. With its decades-long presence in the occupied Palestinian territory, the ICRC has been a witness to settlements' impact. They restrict Palestinians' freedom of movement and affect the social and economic fabric of entire communities. They can limit Palestinians' access to their agricultural lands, natural resources or medical services. They also contribute to violence between Israeli settlers and Palestinian communities."

https://www.icrc.org/en/document/ihl-occupying-power-responsibilities-occupied-palestinian-territories

Now understood?

I hope you will not be so daft as to continue in your ways by now asking me whether Israel is bound by the views of the ICRC. Because I will not put such an infantile question beyond you.

Now that is one. Two, let's quickly treat your confusion on the United Nations. The U.N is not a court. The question concerns borders. Israel was set up under the auspices of the U.N British Mandate for Palestine. This puts that organization in an eminent position to speak to the issues as they arise from the matter of borders. Its not about harping on and on about whether Israel is bound. Every sovereign state can choose how it conducts itself whether that be rougue conduct or responsible conduct. The International community is virtually unanimous on the question of the illegality of the West Bank Settlements. This is not a matter for dispute and is generally beyond cavil in the international coummunity.

Now you have show your ignorance in what is happening at the West Bank. The government of Israel has never transfered anyone to the West Bank. The Geneva treaties doesn't stop any Israeli from willingly moving to the so called occupied areas on their own

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by tctrills: 9:23am On May 15

DeepSight:

*Sigh*

Ok, here goes. Please open your ears and eyes this time oh. Because I am tired.
This is a take from the International Committe of the Red Cross which is explanatory.

"The ICRC's official position is that the West Bank has been occupied by Israel since 1967. Consequently, the ICRC has repeatedly stated that Israel settlements' policy goes against key provisions of International Humanitarian Law (IHL), specifically the law of occupation, and is contrary to its intent and spirit. The 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention (GCIV) prohibits an Occupying Power from transferring its own population into the territories under its occupation. Therefore, Israel's settlements policy in the West Bank contradicts the Fourth Geneva Convention. Settlement expansion – be it through formal expansion of existing settlements or through the largely unchecked spread of unauthorized outposts – is the key source of legal and humanitarian concerns in the West Bank. With its decades-long presence in the occupied Palestinian territory, the ICRC has been a witness to settlements' impact. They restrict Palestinians' freedom of movement and affect the social and economic fabric of entire communities. They can limit Palestinians' access to their agricultural lands, natural resources or medical services. They also contribute to violence between Israeli settlers and Palestinian communities."

https://www.icrc.org/en/document/ihl-occupying-power-responsibilities-occupied-palestinian-territories

Now understood?

I hope you will not be so daft as to continue in your ways by now asking me whether Israel is bound by the views of the ICRC. Because I will not put such an infantile question beyond you.

Now that is one. Two, let's quickly treat your confusion on the United Nations. The U.N is not a court. The question concerns borders. Israel was set up under the auspices of the U.N British Mandate for Palestine. This puts that organization in an eminent position to speak to the issues as they arise from the matter of borders. Its not about harping on and on about whether Israel is bound. Every sovereign state can choose how it conducts itself whether that be rougue conduct or responsible conduct. The International community is virtually unanimous on the question of the illegality of the West Bank Settlements. This is not a matter for dispute and is generally beyond cavil in the international coummunity.

Again you are wrong because the disputed land isn't Palestinians land and that's why it is desputed.
Just as Palestinians settle in the land, so can Israelis live in the land and that has been the argument.
That land had never been established as belonging to the Palestinians.
So there again, the case against Israel is very weak

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by DeepSight(m): 9:25am On May 15

tctrills:

Now you have show your ignorance in what is happening at the West Bank. The government of Israel has never transfered anyone to the West Bank. The Geneva treaties doesn't stop any Israeli from willingly moving to the so called occupied areas on their own

Oh, that's why IDF is always present to enforce right?
And how exactly does a private individual from anywhere else in the world just "move in" and settle on a foreign land if not with government imprimatur? Have you ever heard of the "right of return" as espoused for Jews?

Its obvious you dont know anything about the issue if you can claim not to be aware of people being kicked out of their homes forcefully to settle Jews there. And if you dont know that, or claim not to know that, then its one of two things - you are either an inveterate liar or you have been living under a rock. That rock could possibly be your fanatical religion though.

But on a serious note this sort of post which you just made has made me feel really really stupid.
I must be, to be countenancing this sort of conversation with a person who can say this.

Its like arguing with a person who says the second world war never happened.

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by tctrills: 9:38am On May 15

DeepSight:

Oh, that's why IDF is always present to enforce right?
And how exactly does a private individual from anywhere else in the world just "move in" and settle on a foreign land if not with government imprimatur? Have you ever heard of the "right of return" as espoused for Jews?

Its obvious you dont know anything about the issue if you can claim not to be aware of people being kicked out of their homes forcefully to settle Jews there. And if you dont know that, or claim not to know that, then its one of two things - you are either an inveterate liar or you have been living under a rock. That rock could possibly be your fanatical religion though.

But on a serious note this sort of post which you just made has made me feel really really stupid.
I must be, to be countenancing this sort of conversation with a person who can say this.

Its like arguing with a person who says the second world war never happened.

The IDF is present to protect Israelis from violence extremist. We both know that's one of the most volatile regions of the world. Again, the idea that the west bank is a foreign land shows you know nothing about the region. Up to 1948, there where so many Israeli communities in the West Bank. The Jordanian government kicked them off up on till 63 when Israel reclaimed the land.
So none of the UN rules apply here. It's two people with claims to a land and telling Israelis not to settle in their land is against their rights.
Lastly, you were dumb before I ever posted so don't blame my post for it.

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by tctrills: 9:48am On May 15

DeepSight:

Oh, that's why IDF is always present to enforce right?
And how exactly does a private individual from anywhere else in the world just "move in" and settle on a foreign land if not with government imprimatur? Have you ever heard of the "right of return" as espoused for Jews?

Its obvious you dont know anything about the issue if you can claim not to be aware of people being kicked out of their homes forcefully to settle Jews there. And if you dont know that, or claim not to know that, then its one of two things - you are either an inveterate liar or you have been living under a rock. That rock could possibly be your fanatical religion though.

But on a serious note this sort of post which you just made has made me feel really really stupid.
I must be, to be countenancing this sort of conversation with a person who can say this.

Its like arguing with a person who says the second world war never happened.

According to Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics, there are 451,700 Jews living in West Bank settlements as of the year 2020. Between 20,000 and 30,000 more live in illegal West Bank outposts. All settlements are located in Area C, the 60% of the West Bank controlled by Israel. Given that Israel has not annexed the West Bank, Jewish settlements in the territory are not considered by Israel to be under its sovereignty. Emergency regulations renewed every five years extend Israeli criminal and some civil law to Israeli citizens in the West Bank.

Prior to Israel’s founding and the Jordanian occupation of the West Bank, the territory contained several Jewish communities, as well as millennia of Jewish history and many of Judaism’s holiest sites, such as the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron. Jordan expelled 17,000 Jews from the West Bank during the 1948 war, and when Israel conquered the territory in 1967, it had no Jewish population. The first West Bank settlement was Kfar Etzion, a Jewish community that existed prior to 1948 that Israel reestablished in 1967.

The first decade of Israel’s occupation of the West Bank saw the establishment of 32 settlements, primarily in the Jordan Valley and around Jerusalem. Under this era’s Labor-led governments, security was the primary rationale for encouraging the establishment of civilian Jewish communities in these areas. The aim was to establish the Jordan River as Israel’s eastern security border, encircle the large Palestinian population in the mountain range running north-south through the West Bank’s center, and widen the narrow approach to Jerusalem. This strategy was in line with the Allon Plan, a proposal developed in the wake of the Six-Day War by then-Labor Minister Yigal Allon to divide the West Bank. The Allon plan imagined Israeli annexation of the eastern flank of the territory and the area surrounding Jerusalem, while the rest of the West Bank, which contained most of the Palestinian population, would be returned to Jordan. Although the Israeli government never formally adopted the plan, it served as an influential vision while Labor was in power, with most settlements during this period established in areas designated for Israeli annexation by the plan.

The size of the settler population does not come close to threatening the West Bank’s solid Palestinian majority.
85.2% of West Bank residents are Palestinians.
Jews are the majority population (51.9%) within the environs of Jerusalem. In all other parts of the West Bank, Palestinians are the overwhelming majority. 96.7% of the population along the West Bank’s central mountain range that connects the major Palestinian cities is Palestinian.
The growth rate of the settler population has fallen to 2.24% from a high of 16% in 1991. Most of this growth is the result of natural growth, rather than migration, and almost half of it is from the Haredi cities of Modi’in Illit and Beitar Illit—both of which are consensus settlements that would be annexed to Israel under any two-state formulation. Settlements deep in the West Bank in areas slated for evacuation do not pose a demographic threat. Moreover, the West Bank Jewish population’s growth is expected to fall given current trends.

The Palestinian population density in the West Bank is six times higher than that of the Jewish population—472 people per square kilometer, compared to 78. The Jewish population density in the West Bank is lower than the overall population density of the Negev Desert.
The layout of the West Bank’s Jewish population is also ineffective for the purposes of controlling the territory. Settlements are largely concentrated linearly, such as along the Green Line, along Route 60 through the central mountain ridge, and along Route 90 in the Jordan Valley and northern Dead Sea region.
‣The Palestinian population, by contrast, is more evenly distributed throughout the entire territory, with the exception of the sparsely populated Jordan Valley (where Palestinians, nevertheless, still outnumber Jews).

77% of settlers reside west of the security barrier, as opposed to deep in the West Bank.
Various two-state proposals include land swaps that would result in the majority of settlers being annexed to Israel without impeding Palestinian contiguity. Dr. Shaul Arieli’s proposal for a stable border is based on a 3.9% land swap that would leave 77.7% of Israelis east of the Green Line (including in East Jerusalem)—521,000 people—under Israeli sovereignty.
This leaves approximately 150,000 settlers who live outside of the zone of probable agreement and therefore would need to be evacuated and resettled within Israel’s borders.

Re: United Nations Reverses Its Gaza Death Toll by hansomb: 10:57am On May 15

Nwaikpe:

Dear muslim pig, when did you refocus from mohammedan instructions of killing and raping, to being concerned about Jesus?