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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 3:53pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Maradona didn't mean it the way you are interpreting it, Madrid and barca is the habitat of the top players and it isn't easy to price out their top players. Also, Ronaldo, Ramos are not for the future.. That the city boys didn't do well(Argentina's agueo) for their national teams at the mundial may have contributed from their exclusion from the FIFpro, many won't rate Pavard ahead of Walker nor would they say Alves ahead of Mendy. Pep is good manager for sure but not as some of you blow him to be. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:01pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
BlueRayDick:baba you think its easy to sign top players out of Madrid and barca? and what made you think these pep boys won't walk straight into barca and Madrid's team? Mercelo and carvajal are all attack zero defensive quality, why are they not doing it at national stage? Most of those lads benefit from playing alongside one or two exceptional players In their teams. Aside Madrid and barca, which other team in Europe has a better squad than man city? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 4:08pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa:Mendy didnt even play for almost the entire last season and he was a bench warmer for France behind Hernandez. So this is the great player Guardiola bought? Or who are the top players Guardiola has been picking form his Man City? Guardiola wanted Alexis, wanted Fred, wanted VVD, wanted Bonnuci So why are they not in City? Danilo, Mendy, Stones, Walker, Laporte, Bravo Sane, Gundogan Mahrez Bernardo these are the players Guardiola bought How many of these will you name world top 20 ? The team Guardiola won the EPL with last season breaking all points Ederson Walker Stones Otamendi Delph Fernandinho KDB Silva Sterling Sane Aguero Jesuus These are the so called stars and best player Guardiola has. Anyone who read that will think Guardiola had prime Messi Xavi, Ronaldo, Neymar Iniesta etc at City Now lets evaluate this claim 1. Which of these players have ever won a CL before? None 2. Which of these players have as much as played a CL final before? None 3. Which of these players have ever won a world cup before None 4. Which of these have ever won either a Copa America or a Euro before? Only D. Silva 5. Which of these have ever won Balon dor before? None 6. Which of these have ever made Balon Dor top 10 before? None 7. Which of these players have ever made a FIFPro first 11 before? None 8. Of those that have been in the league for more than a year Which of these have ever won PFA player of the year before? None If we look at these starting 11 properly only about half of them have more than 35 caps for their country Half of these players are less than 25yrs So these are the same players that are the stars and best players that Guardiola is picking? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 4:13pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa: How did City become a better squad? Before Guardiola did you rate Sane Sterling Stones, Jesus, Bernardo, Laporte Danilo, Ederson Walker as the best in Europe? Guardiola worked on them suddenly they became the better squad. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:25pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:I didn't rate them as the best in Europe then nor now,but anyone who can spot talent would know they are the next big thing in few years time, pep was smart and lucky(money) to get them and here they are.pep worked but the boys had it in them and any top manager would have make them to or close to this present level. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:37pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Mendy was the next big thing in Europe from Monaco that year before his injury.. The answer to the questions raised are players from the big guns in Europe mostly from Madrid and barca and they can't be priced out easily. He was able to recruit top talents, they don't have to be from barca or Bayern. How many teams apart from Madrid and barca can get walker, Mendy, Danilo,Stones,Mahrez,Silva for 50ms in 2 seasons? These guys didn't cost little, they were top quality players regardless of whether they have been in top10 or not. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 4:39pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa: Was Sane better than Martial or Rashford 2yrs ago? I remember 2 seasons ago when some posters here used to laugh at Sane and Sterling even calling Sane one weak albino that cannot work in the strong EPL Was Stones better than Bailly 2yrs ago. Was Stones not one of those players people mocked here? Who were these stars that Guardiola bought, he bought many players under 23yrs groomed them and turned them into a potent force Other managers too had money yet they didnt set up a top team like City |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:52pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Sterling won the league under Pele before pep,he was close to winning it under Rodgers, Sterling, though not consistent wasn't a big fish in England, far ahead of martial and rashford. Sane,I will agree looks like a Pep's work,though I fear could be a season wonder. Stones was always on the media's headline, Chelsea wanted him,but pep was faster(money). He may have improved them, but they weren't a guendozi(unknown) but a nicklas pepe or bailey. No other clubs had money like pep. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 4:52pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa: But Guardiola did not use Mendy to break all records in the league last season. How many of those players he bought do you consider top talents when he bought them was it Danilo, Ederson Sane Gundogan Bernardo? The only player I can call a top star before City was Mahrez |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 4:57pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa: Sterling won his first league last season with Guardiola. Sane had about 40 first team appearance for Schalke before joining City Danilo was a benchwarmer at Madrid, Stones was in the headline but usually laughed at as being error prone At best you can say they were promising youngsters it was Guardiola who molded them into the stars they are currently PSG spent 400M on Mbappe and Neymar alone, Chelsea since Pep joined City has spent 530M on transfers last season Chelsea spent 260M and finished 5th. Currently Liverpool has the most expensive midfielder-keita, Defender VVD and Keeper in the entire league |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 7:02pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa: Sane was never Guardiola's doing... he was a wonderkid at Schalke... (watch Sane vs Real Madrid)... Stones was boss art Everton... Guardiola is always a fraud... why didn't he lift the Champions League with Bayern Munich and watch raudmetre claw back in his cave.... |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 7:47pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
iPopAlomo: Sane had 13 goals for Schalke is that the wonder kid we are talking about? How many National caps did he have while at Schalke. Stone was boss where? No be the same Stones This was the same poster calling Walker and Stones rubbish but today he is telling us the same Stones he called rubbish was a boss at Everton, You mean the boss or rubbish iPopAlomo: Fkhalifa these are examples of the same poster who laughed at Guardiola signings when he refined them suddenly they are telling us they are world class signings 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 7:48pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
iPopAlomo: Fkhalifa you dey see am 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 7:49pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 7:50pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
iPopAlomo: Someone who claimed Ederson is not better than Joe Hart Suddenly we are hearing how Guardiola bought all the top stars. The same Ederson he claimed was not better than Hart is now a star |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 7:52pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter: A kid scoring 13 goals at 17 in one season... isn't good enough... |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 7:53pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter: One question I'm asking you... why didn't he lift the Champions League with Bayern Munich... before your epistle on stones and sane... |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 7:56pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
iPopAlomo: This post you bookmarked what happened to it? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 7:57pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
iPopAlomo: You should have the shame and bury tour head shamefully after beating your chest that he wont win in EPL, he not only won, he broke the record of point, earliest win, record goals scored record goals difference |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:43pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Your point here is very valid. 3 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 9:02pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Spy360: You are the only previous sceptic I respect because evidence convinces you. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:05pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
iPopAlomo:Exactly what I said, I remembered sky sport reporting the transfer of sane to city,he wasn't so unknown, he was like sancho of dortmund,maybe pep did more on him, but huge some of money could have made schalke sold him that year. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 9:05pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter: After the Southampton game that Stones made a mistake, even the British media turned on him. It was Pep who came out first to say as long as he remains City manager, Stones will be a huge factor to it. Next, he approached the same Stones and encouraged him to continue passing it out the back the very same way. Today, Pep did nothing. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 9:07pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
iPopAlomo: You are not supposed to be responding to any posts. You are the one who has confirmed yourself a fraud. Stick to one narrative. If Pep won in Bayern you will still say he did nothing because Bayern won it before he came. You people are incorrigible. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:08pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:I would not have agreed with him that they were rubbish, walker was arguably the best RB in England, Stones was quoted around 50M when Chelsea were sniffing around him.. He might have called them rubbish just to rile Pep and city fans. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 9:11pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa: Sky will report any transfer. So reporting a transfer means nothing. You guys puzzle me. What is "he was not SO unknown"? The Sané you see today is that the Sané of Schalke? The same free scoring decisive Sterling of today is that the one we have always known? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 9:14pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa: Mangala was bought for 42M. Which means any manager who bought him got a world class potential player, right? Since that is how it works. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:17pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Eruditor:was he a flop? The manager wanted him and he delivered him the league,he was ahead of dimicheles. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:20pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Eruditor:whatever you do at a schalke won't be recognized world wide like that of a topflight city. I remembered how gueondozi and yacin Adli were reported( like a gamble) while sane was like the next big thing. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 9:20pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa: SO Sky Sport reporting a transfer means exactly what? Is there a transfer Sky doesnt report? Sane scored an entire 13 goals in his Schalke career, Bayern actually viewed Sane as too young and too raw far from the finished product and decided not to sign him. Guardiola signed him and suddenly we are hearing Sane was already a star |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 9:23pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Fkhalifa: All these one are revisionism. Those posts I quoted were the average reactions to those signing. Its only after they succeed that people are now twisting to say they were good players Ipopalomo actually laughed at Walker and Stones, Walker was benched at his latter time at Spurs. Stones was the butt of jokes and he felt Bellerin and Holding were better but now we are hearing something different |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:25pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:I meant the way his transfer was reported.He was thoroughly analysed and he wasn't like an unknown kid,but like a Sancho. I'm not disputing pep didn't work on him, but he had it in him. |
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