So like this pool and city has entered December with unbeaten run. Pray Chelsea joins tthem.

Most competitive league in the world

krattoss:
So like this pool and city has entered December with unbeaten run. Pray Chelsea joins tthem.

Most competitive league in the world

Trust English refs to use their 419 methods to end the unbeaten run when they come against the likes of Watford or Wolves.

krattoss:
So like this pool and city has entered December with unbeaten run. Pray Chelsea joins tthem.

Most competitive league in the world

If it were Barca and Madrid, y'all will tell us how boring La Liga is because "it's a two sided league".
Now that it's EPL, it's because it's the best league in the world.

Lol

Talking about great coaches, it's criminal how Poch doesn't get much praises. I mean what the guy is doing at Spurs is nothing short of a miracle. He's had a net spent of +26 million pounds over the past few years and Spurs wage bill is about similar to Leicester and Everton. Didn't even buy any player in the last window and his team haven't played at "home" for about 18 months now.

He's punching well above his weight and he should get more praises than Pep, whose team is where it should be on the basis of money spent in transfers and wage bill.

KevinDein:
Talking about great coaches, it's criminal how Poch doesn't get much praises. I mean what the guy is doing at Spurs is nothing short of a miracle. He's had a net spent of +26 million pounds over the past few years and Spurs wage bill is about similar to Leicester and Everton. Didn't even buy any player in the last window and his team haven't played at "home" for about 18 months now.

He's punching well above his weight and he should get more praises than Pep, whose team is where they should be on the basis of money spent in transfers and wage bill.

Moyes did it for Everton, nothing spectacular
Wengay did it too when we were building Emirates

sod09:
Moyes did it for Everton, nothing spectacular
Wengay did it too when we were building Emirates

That Moyes and Wenger did it then doesn't make it any less impressive. Moyes and Wenger received praises then and Poch deserves praises now. He's literally up against five clubs that have far more resources that him and he's standing his ground.

Dude is the real MVP

KevinDein:

That Moyes and Wenger did it then doesn't make it any less impressive. Moyes and Wenger received praises then and Poch deserve praises now.

has he won any trophy
Btw, spurs spent alot too only this season he didn't buy

sod09:
has he won any trophy
Btw, spurs spent alot too only this season he didn't buy

I'm not one to criticize a manager for not winning a trophy. The uneven playing field in football finances these days means trophies shouldn't be the only yardstick to measure success. Pep in his first season at City went trophiless. He then splashed the cash and poached Walker, Mendy, Bernardo etc. By so doing, he didn't only strengthen his team, he significantly weakened teams like Spurs, Monaco etc. You literally can't compete with clubs that are sponsored by rich countries.

I'm sorry, I'm not gonna join the bandwagon and praise Pep for winning trophies (to me, he basically bought them) while downplaying the great jobs guys like Poch and Jardim have done or are doing.

That's just my view anyway. Feel free to disagree.

KevinDein:

I'm not one to criticize a manager for not winning a trophy. The uneven playing field in football finances these days means trophies shouldn't be the only yardstick to measure success. Pep in his first season at City went trophiless. He then splashed the cash and poached Walker, Mendy, Bernardo etc. By so doing, he didn't only strengthen his team, he significantly weakened teams like Spurs, Monaco etc. You literally can't compete with clubs that are sponsored by rich countries.

I'm sorry, I'm not gonna join the bandwagon and praise Pep for winning trophies (to me, he basically bought them) while downplaying the great jobs guys like Poch and Jardim have done or are doing.

That's just my view anyway. Feel free to disagree.

I'm not praising pep too, but Pochettino and Klopp are nothing spectacular if Ranieri can win the league with 5m oldies in Leicester

sod09:
I'm not praising pep too, but Pochettino and Klopp are nothing spectacular if Ranieri can win the league with 5m oldies in Leicester

That Ranieri adventure at Leicester is an outlier and not the norm. It's a freak event; something that happens once in a lifetime. You cannot judge coaches based on that.

KevinDein:

That Ranieri adventure at Leicester is an outlier and not the norm. It's a freak event; something that happens once in a lifetime. You cannot judge coaches based on that.

I knew you were going to say that,just wondering why it didn't happen to Pochettino

I'm also not part of those who rate a manager based on trophies won, Mourinho bullied us in his first seasons when the Russian billionaire was the biggest investor at Chelsea.
I personally rate Klopp,Poch,Emery,jardim and Simeone amongst many others,they aren't backed up with money like pep,mou..and yet set out a team worthy of competing at the highest level..

Don't forget how the big guns weak their side every year. So it isn't that easy to win trophies ahead of them.

Moyes couldn't survive when money came into play unlike poch.

Only God knows what could happen if the tables can be turned around.Pep/Mou managing teams with not so much financial backing and vice versa.

Fkhalifa:
I'm also not part of those who rate a manager based on trophies won, Mourinho bullied us in his first seasons when the Russian billionaire was the biggest investor at Chelsea.
I personally rate Klopp,Poch,Emery,jardim and Simeone amongst many others,they aren't backed up with money like pep,mou..and yet set out a team worthy of competing at the highest level..

Don't forget how the big guns weak their side every year. So it isn't that easy to win trophies ahead of them.

Moyes couldn't survive when money came into play unlike poch.

Only God knows what could happen if the tables can be turned around.Pep/Mou managing teams with not so much financial backing and vice versa.

how can you guys say you can't rate a coach base in trophies,this was the stupid mentality wengay put in our heads.
No wonder we can't compete for anything,imagine yourself as a coach and you telling your players play good football I don't mind trophies.
No wonder arsenal and spurs have same thing in common, bottle up a strong position.
No wonder someone was having orgasm on Napoli that will go trophy less.

3 at the back and Ozil on the bench. No Lacazette. Interesting line up.

sod09:
how can you guys say you can't rate a coach base in trophies,this was the stupid mentality wengay put in our heads.
No wonder we can't compete for anything,imagine yourself as a coach and you telling your players play good football I don't mind trophies.
No wonder arsenal and spurs have same thing in common, bottle up a strong position.
No wonder someone was having orgasm on Napoli that will go trophy less.

I see you still haven't let this issue go. You really have to learn to respect other people's opinions and views on things. Some just aren't crazed about trophies and if they were they could easily switch and start supporting the Bayerns, Juves, PSG, and Man Citys of this world.

Respect people's opinions even if they differ to yours.

KevinDein:

I see you still haven't let this issue go. You really have to learn to respect other people's opinions and views on things. Some just aren't crazed about trophies and if they were they could easily switch and start supporting the Bayerns, Juves, PSG, and Man Citys of this world.

Respect people's opinions even if they differ to yours.

ok peace

Emery the real MVP
He is not afraid of tweaking or benching anyone

If only Iwobi knows how to shoot the ball..

LMAO @ that own goal by Lemar. It looked like a strikers touch.

Omo see bizzare own goal...wonder volley

sod09:
how can you guys say you can't rate a coach base in trophies,this was the stupid mentality wengay put in our heads.
No wonder we can't compete for anything,imagine yourself as a coach and you telling your players play good football I don't mind trophies.
No wonder arsenal and spurs have same thing in common, bottle up a strong position.
No wonder someone was having orgasm on Napoli that will go trophy less.

There's no coach that will set out his team not to win any possible trophy, no matter how you tell or strive to win, you wouldn't win jack if you won't.. Everyone cannot win the league in the same year, honest assessment of teams performance will give sincere rating of the manager

See counter attack for the equalizer.

Iwobi with some useless one corner dancing triggered that equalizer.

Roland17:
See counter attack for the equalizer.

Iwobi with some useless one corner dancing triggered that equalizer.

can you see Mourinho was right on mhki the idiot is waste of space..auba can be useless sometimes too

Michki=waste pipe

There we go Auba.. Iwobi with the excellent first pass to open up Kola

I am not comfortable with this substitution especially since we are only up by 1

Performance wasn’t great. But a win where we desperately needed 3 points, away against a top half team is fantastic none the less.

guys how did you see holding performance in today game ?

sod09:
how can you guys say you can't rate a coach base in trophies,this was the stupid mentality wengay put in our heads.
No wonder we can't compete for anything,imagine yourself as a coach and you telling your players play good football I don't mind trophies.
No wonder arsenal and spurs have same thing in common, bottle up a strong position.
No wonder someone was having orgasm on Napoli that will go trophy less.

As useless as Wenger was he still won FA cup. Pochentino is yet to win a spoon. As for Klopp, it is wait and see.

How did this waste pipe finish the game and torreira get sub off...
Emery sub today was uncalled for

sod09:
How did this waste pipe finish the game and torreira get sub off...
Emery sub today was uncalled for

And his decision to remove Tor changed the tide of the game and almost cost us the game because guys were biting into possession rather than read the ball, intercept and tackle. It was an important result for us and credit to the lads for seeing the game through.

Kolasinac looked very decent in the 2nd half, hopefully this gives him some confidence.

Fkhalifa:
There's no coach that will set out his team not to win any possible trophy, no matter how you tell or strive to win, you wouldn't win jack if you won't.. Everyone cannot win the league in the same year, honest assessment of teams performance will give sincere rating of the manager

It takes a different mentality to win trophies than play good football.

Why I rate Pep is because he won the title with ease just as we all expected him to. Some other managers would have the same team and wouldn't win.

Moyes had the chance to spend at United and save his life but couldn't. Himself to blame.

Klopp has spent big this season, let see if he can win anything.

Pochentino has built a formidable side overtime. Can he win something?

If Pochentino wins this season, he gets rated. Until they win, they remain behind Pep.