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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudly9ja(m): 11:07am On Dec 14, 2012 |
El Guapo: Two things i am Allergic to - Frustration and Barrenness!Eventually we will get there! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 11:11am On Dec 14, 2012 |
proudly9ja: Words Of One Under a French Spell |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudly9ja(m): 11:29am On Dec 14, 2012 |
El Guapo: I didn't say we will get there with the current circumstances still in play, I only know eventually, we will get there! Remember it was Joshua who led the people into Canaan.. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 11:33am On Dec 14, 2012 |
proudly9ja: See me see trouble o |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudly9ja(m): 11:40am On Dec 14, 2012 |
^^^ Moses did his best, the people were just too stubborn |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 11:44am On Dec 14, 2012 |
proudly9ja: ^^^ I can't shout Wonder who 'Joshua' is going to be? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudly9ja(m): 12:16pm On Dec 14, 2012 |
That part, I cannot answer... We just have to wait and see. Hopefully, a 'new' Wenger. He has done a lot for the club and though his players have let him down at times, he also needs to be a little bit less stubborn and demand more both from the board and from his under-performing players. Treating them like children will take us nowhere. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by codedguy1(m): 2:25pm On Dec 14, 2012 |
El Guapo: Two things i am Allergic to - Frustration and Barrenness! Its just 7 yrs, there are still 33yrs remaining b4 joshua takes oVer. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudly9ja(m): 2:31pm On Dec 14, 2012 |
Wicked guy..!!! In our time, people don't live as long as they used to back then so for us its 40/5 = 8years...Then Joshua will take over |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 5:16pm On Dec 14, 2012 |
coded guy: DIES proudly9ja: Read the Post i Quoted Above |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudly9ja(m): 7:19pm On Dec 14, 2012 |
^^^ Read my last post Abeg..shey na because match no dey tomorrow we dey misyarn so? Please o...Arsenal will win the League cup! Bradford City will be disqualified |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by edoyad(m): 7:15am On Dec 15, 2012 |
You people better stop this right now, 33 ye years to do what? Better not let Muki come read this, nervous breakdown |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 4llerbuntu(m): 5:55pm On Dec 15, 2012 |
The more I watch Manchester United games this season the more I tendtowards the idea that the difference between that team and ours is the the strike force. Their defence is just as shit as ours. But this season has been disappointing. At the start I remember that the optimism was high that after the debacle of last season and the signings we would do better, now it's even worse!!!!! Ironically the other teams are not much better compared with last season, but we have been worse. United had the same number of points after 16 games as they had last season!! Well city are worse too sha. they were top after 16 games last year. Sigh. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 8:49am On Dec 16, 2012 |
Uzbek billionaire Alisher Usmanov bids for bigger role in running Arsenal and calls for shake-up in the boardroom to give Arsène Wenger more support. Alisher Usmanov, Arsenal’s second biggest shareholder, will renew calls for a shake-up of the club’s board at the end of the season if the team fail to qualify for the Champions League. The Uzbek billionaire is understood to believe that such a failure – after 15 successive seasons in the competition – could prove a catalyst for change but, like the board, he supports of manager Arsène Wenger. Usmanov believes Wenger lacks board level expertise to help him – and has been starved of resources, although there are now substantial funds to spend. Usmanov does not want Wenger to be replaced as manager – he has 18 months left on his current contract – and remains an admirer of the Frenchman and what he has achieved as well as his approach to football. Usmanov is believed to be frustrated with the continuing refusal of the club’s board to hold talks with him and has privately claimed that his patient approach should have been met with greater respect. Usmanov bought into Arsenal five years ago and believes he has not taken an aggressive stance and not been an outspoken critic, despite his frustration at largely being ignored. It is understood that Wenger met David Dein, Arsenal’s former vice-chairman, last week to discuss problems over the team’s lacklustre displays. That is a regular occurrence as they have stayed firm friends since Dein, who brought Wenger to the club, left the Arsenal board in 2007 after “irreconcilable differences”. Dein sold his Arsenal shares to Usmanov for £75 million and was appointed chairman of Red and White Holdings, the company the billionaire established to build his stake in the club, but quit the following year. His relationship with Usmanov remains good and it may be that the return of Dein could figure in the tycoon’s plans if he is able to hold talks with the Arsenal board and the biggest shareholder, Stan Kroenke. Usmanov, who owns 29.9 per cent of the club, is believed to consider Kroenke’s effective sole control, with 66.76 per cent, unhealthy and regarded Arsenal as being in a stronger position when there was more than a 'plularity’ of owners with a variety of opinions on the board. His chances of a role at Arsenal – a seat on the board – remain slight. But he will continue to call for greater team investment and offer to pay down the debt that remains on the Emirates Stadium. So far the Kroenke camp has refused any dialogue. Usmanov feels there is a lack of expertise on the Arsenal board; he has highlighted that some of the commercial deals are not as strong as he would have expected and he believes the club should capitalise more on social media. His greater concern is that Wenger has seen a drain of talent, such as Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie, while replacements such as Juan Mata and Eden Hazard have moved to Chelsea as Arsenal failed to 'close’ deals. “Arsène is an honourable guy, he never criticises the board, he protects them,” one source said. “At some point it is maybe the board that needs to be refreshed.” Usmanov sent a letter last summer in which he questioned the way the club was run at board level and the lack of investment in a team that has not won a trophy since 2005. His stance has been reiterated by fans’ groups such as the Arsenal Supporters Trust who have questioned the strength of the Arsenal board and the support structure around Wenger. However, Wenger has appeared resistant to change and his backroom staff has remained largely unaltered in 16 years. Steve Bould and Neil Banfield were promoted in the summer but neither has much influence. Claims of a rift with Bould have been denied but there has been undoubted tension with the former defender not being allowed to coach as expected. Wenger has also been resistant to requests from some former players to be involved in the club’s set-up. It is believed both Patrick Vieira and Dennis Bergkamp approached Wenger to ask if they could take coaching or ambassad-orial roles before being appointed by Manchester City and Ajax. Usmanov attended a charity dinner with Thierry Henry in Moscow this week and called for the striker to be given a role as an ambassador not a player. Contract negotiations surrounding Theo Walcott and Bacary Sagna have followed a familiar pattern of drift with Wenger unwilling, it appears, to confront the likelihood that both can leave for free at the end of this campaign. Sagna is believed to be bewildered by the non- scheduling of talks as he wants to stay. Wenger has significant funds available in January and has tasked Dallas-based transfer- fixer, Dick Law, to strengthen the squad. Inquiries have been made about a raft of players – with a striker and a goalkeeper a priority. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 4llerbuntu(m): 11:35am On Dec 16, 2012 |
D_i.c.k law is fool. That chap is an apology. He is responsible for the glut of duds we have. Anyway, the following are excerpts from arseblog. That chap talks a great deal of sense btw. U shld give d blog a read regularly.
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 4llerbuntu(m): 11:42am On Dec 16, 2012 |
I don’t doubt that everyone at the club works hard, especially Arsene Wenger who, regardless of if you think he should stay or go, will be hurting about our current form. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 1:49pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
Every club signs 'duds' - the issue is whether the club wins trophies in spite of the duds or not. Fergie had them in Biram Diouf, Manucho, Chadwick, Djemba Djemba, Bellion, etc., Chelski signed Kezman, Sheva, Mereiles, Quaresma, etc., but nobody focuses on those because of the successes. When you don't succeed, every mistake is blown up, expanded and analysed under a microscope. ************************************************************************************************************ Arsenal faces Reading today and a win is what is required. Theo is likely fit, Giroud returns and Koscielny should also be back. I don't care about who we signed/should've signed/should sign - all I care about right now is a win to take us to within touching distance of the top 4. Those around us have done us a favour with West Brom, Everton, West Ham, etc. dropping points. Come on you Red and White Army! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by KazeKage1: 1:58pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
debosky: Every club signs 'duds' - the issue is whether the club wins trophies in spite of the duds or not. Fergie had them in Biram Diouf, Manucho, Chadwick, Djemba Djemba, Bellion, etc., Chelski signed Kezman, Sheva, Mereiles, Quaresma, etc., but nobody focuses on those because of the successes. When you don't succeed, every mistake is blown up, expanded and analysed under a microscope.Well said. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 4:56pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
debosky: Every club signs 'duds' - the issue is whether the club wins trophies in spite of the duds or not. Fergie had them in Biram Diouf, Manucho, Chadwick, Djemba Djemba, Bellion, etc., Chelski signed Kezman, Sheva, Mereiles, Quaresma, etc., but nobody focuses on those because of the successes. When you don't succeed, every mistake is blown up, expanded and analysed under a microscope.chai.. See true fan, how i wish all arsenal fans na debosky as i wish all arsenal players na wilshere...Pouring water on stone,.SMH |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 4llerbuntu(m): 5:07pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
every man is entitled to his own brand of make believe |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by codedguy1(m): 5:24pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
The amount of rubbish debosky spews these days can trigger a tsunami in the middle of the sahara desert. Other teams have duds that can be replaced with established/effective players when the dud has been given a chance and is messing up. But in Arsenals case, when u take out gervinho and replace him with giroud or chamakh, what's the difference? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by KazeKage1: 5:30pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
Can we get Falcao, Huntelaar and Diame? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 4llerbuntu(m): 6:11pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
coded guy: The amount of rubbish debosky spews these days can trigger a tsunami in the middle of the sahara desert. HAAA!! Mogbe!!!! LWTMBOOOOOOOO come, guy stop am, i no like am o. na my NL daddy u con dey revoke hin swagger license like dat? E neva reach tsunami jare. maybe thunderstorm |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by duduspace(m): 7:30pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
I hereby revoke the rights of some of these tykes like 4ller and coded guy to rejoice when Arsenal finally wins something. Anyway, some of you pansies will soon suddenly remember that you supported Bayern Munich all along like A-40. How things change though, to think that Debo will be getting bashed over Arsenal and Arsene? I'll keep quiet over that one. One thing I love about this club is the knee jerk reaction to everything by this "new generation" of fans. If you honestly took a look at the Arsenal squad at the beginning of the season and thought we could win the PL, you deserve a visit to a shrink, if yu were waiting for Arsene or the board to come and tell you that we didnt have a squad good enough yet to be fully in the race for the PL, you deserve to be completely sectioned and taken of the street for the safety of others and if yu're mad about our current position (losing to Bradford aside) then yu deserve to be shot and put out of a pathetic miserable existence. Going thru some arsenal forums these days is like speaking to Juveniles. Some say Arsenal ticket prices are too high yet demand we pay Theo anything he asks to keep him (they said the same about RVP as well) yet cannot see the inherent contradiction in those 2 positions? The time to judge Arsene fully will be 2014, until then it is unfair to have the 4th /5th largest wage bill and a -ve net transfer record in the league year on year and then strut about that you will win the league. Since when exactly did money start growing on trees? 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by dayokanu(m): 9:55pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
^^ The youth program you told us about in 2006, When would you start reaping the results? What of the Afobes, Anekes, Hoytes, Senderos, Diaby Owusu-Abeyie, JET, etyc that you told us would rule the world |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by 4llerbuntu(m): 10:03pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
Ur entitled yo ur opinion, just as everybody here. And u do have dis absurd sense of entitlement n superiority that is as amusing as it is irritating. Fyi I started following arsenal seriously around the 1996 world cup thereabouts wen my interest in football crystallized. Before that rothmans football on nta was showing prem n bundesliga. N I was not that young then. So if that qualifies me as a "new generation" fan, I guess I overrated ur intelligence. Just because u prefer to kiss arsene's ar-se n blow the brighter tomorrow bugle does not mean we all have to toe that line. Even wenger himself would not expect that. Ironically since the 2006 champions league final there has been one constant on this thread, u have always been wrong about all ur views, projections, n predictions. Since u started carping ur tripe this club has gotten worse, the football has regressed. But u think u have a right to yarn? Wait till ur nirvana where FFP, youth policy, frugality etc wins a damn spoon before u mouth off hereabout. Muppet 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 10:07pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
coded guy: The amount of rubbish debosky spews these days can trigger a tsunami in the middle of the sahara desert. Mechuonu!
That's the real issue - the reduced quantity of quality players (relative to our main competitors) because of low expenditure, not buying of duds that all clubs share. So indirectly you are buttressing my point. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 10:12pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
Like Ill Bliss and Terry G sang - Aye Po Gan. Let everyone air their views as they deem fit. One of the prime reasons for disagreement is what each side of the debate feels is the actual situation and what is spin. The opaqueness of Arsenal FC management is a big contributor to the divisions in the fanbase. Saying you 'want to win trophies' but failing/unable to back up this commentary in the transfer market, saying you 'don't need' to sell players, but then selling them and trumpeting 'profits', the contradictions are numerous. What I do not doubt is Wenger's passion and determination to succeed at Arsenal, even if his methods have not been as successful as we would have liked. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 10:17pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
Saint Santi Cazorla scores his first Arsenal hattrick. Ibime are you still counting? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by A40(m): 10:40pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
4llerbuntu: Ur entitled yo ur opinion, just as everybody here.No mind Duduspace his head is so far up Wenger's a$$ he can probably can tell us what he had for breakfast and lunch |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 10:42pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
A-40: Nah, it's the fanshare nonsense that got to Dudu - his 0.00000001 shareholding in Arsenal has blinded him somewhat. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by A40(m): 10:55pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
debosky:Hahahaha na who send am message |
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