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Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by purplekayc(m): 6:41pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
Who cares? |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Pukkah: 6:51pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
houvest: I'm just wondering, what else is there? The two of them are emotional issues - naming UNN after Ojukwu and saying that the University should not be named after him. The one that the people feel stronger about shows which of the two emotions is stronger, isn't it? |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by olyivy(f): 7:16pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
Okija_juju:Now that I got you talking, I have deduced some few more things, vis: 1. your mother who eloped with the abokis was from nri. 2. she later came back to the east and deceived an okija man into marrying her (telling him you were just a kid she conceived in error) 3. she might have been badly fistulated by abokis (probably conceived you thru her anus). Horrible! 4. i believe your step dad (the one at okija you used to think was your dad ) committed suicide when he discovered he was married to an hausa violated woman thus explaining why you want everybody to commit suicide when they think they have failed (thankfully, not everyone else is depressed like your step dad, many igbo people know how to live and fight another day!). 5. your secret wish is that there is a way you can curse the igbo tribe and it will come to pass. poor boy! If you respond again, I might find out more about your past and lineage! |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by houvest: 7:31pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
Pukkah: YOU REALLY ARE WONDERING WHAT ELSE IS THERE? SMH. In the world of philosophy I am wondering where to place this your logic. A priori, Post priori?, speculative?, inductive, suggestive? conclusive? analytic, synthethic? kant, Pluto, Socrates, Aristotle etc put together would all be confused as to where to class this logic. Ok Eureka, Emotive , by your own words. Therefore That is just what it is emotive logic. Um. Is that not a contradiction? Emotion and logic? |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Pukkah: 7:45pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
houvest: Having painstakingly placed my logic under emotion, what now is your response? |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by houvest: 7:51pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
Pukkah: Waiting for a logical question not an emotional one? |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Niseamaka(m): 7:54pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
Onlytruth: |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Niseamaka(m): 8:11pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
olyivy: |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by pazienza(m): 8:34pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
okija juju is ndu chuks, let no one be deceived,the guy is good in igbo,he is a fulani man that had probably lived in igboland,ndu chuks once claimed to be from abriba. |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by ak47mann(m): 8:35pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
pazienza:i suspected so, |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Onlytruth(m): 11:08pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
My brothers and sisters Niseamaka, olyivy, ak47mann and houvest you have shown the true mettle of true Igbo and Eastern sons and daughters. Oka chara acha, eji anya ama ya! @Niseamaka, I would implement your advice against Okija_juju. I would ignore his rants henceforth, provided you Igbo sons and daughters always rise to put him thoroughly to his confused corner of Nigeria. Igbo si na onye gbara nkiti, kwere ekwe! (if you don't seriously challenge him, his warped and dubious version of history becomes the accepted version). So, never let him get away each time he lies here. Thanks in advance. @Topic Obviously someone in the North thinks that the East does not deserve to keep the name University of Nigeria. Why not change it to University of Biafra? Believe me, we would jump up in jubilation. |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Onlytruth(m): 11:16pm On Dec 15, 2011 |
pazienza: I strongly suspect so too because both characters are strong advocates that Igbos should leave the North and return to the East, but they are (strangely) bitterly opposed to anything secession or division of Nigeria; almost an oxymoron logic. I have a gift for reading characters (if I'm really interested). However, ndu_chucks hates long posts. That is the only clear difference between them so far. I'm still studying them. |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by CyberG: 12:41am On Dec 16, 2011 |
Why does Okija present facts to your challenge and all you do is insist he is not from Igbo? Next, you start an abuse and he responds in kind, yet the only argument you have is that he is not Igbo? I have many friends in real life and none of them is anything like the Igbos on NL. I know most of you are little kids who only heard a little story about the war and cannot think, read or understand the history of Nigeria. It has been established that virtually no NL saw the war (except liars as the poll was taken after over a couple of hundred views). In essence, read and understand the history of the war from a neutral perspective to understand what really happened. It is because most of you have no clue that you seem to be doing exactly most of the things that caused the pogrom and war some which include: empty boasting, arrogance, know it all, inferiority-superiority complex, dishonesty, tribalism, ethnocentrism, etc, etc. @Topic, Ojukwu is respected by his folks and should be immortalized as they wish. It is not on record that he did anything to unify Nigerians but fought for his tribe and so it makes sense for him to be immortalized within his sphere of influence which is in the SE. They can name the university after him if the alumni and current students have a consensus on doing so. Or, modify the name as it is and slot his name somewhere there in some creative way: Ojukwu University of Nigeria, (OUN) University of Ojukwu-Nigeria, (UON) Nsukka, etc or whatever they decide. Or, they can build him a statue or road, etc. One thing though is naming that university after him may create problems for the graduates in getting jobs if the interviewer is another tribalist like most of you on NL. |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by tpia5: 12:49am On Dec 16, 2011 |
University of ojukwu doesnt make sense or sound literate imo. It only sounds a bit meaningful if there's a town called ojukwu. If UNN or any university is going to be named after ojukwu then it would Chukwuemeka Ojukwu university. Or Odimegwu Ojukwu University. However, other alternatives are airports, new towns, highways, etc. |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by ak47mann(m): 3:40am On Dec 16, 2011 |
Onlytruth:is ok am on point,l |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Onlytruth(m): 3:51am On Dec 16, 2011 |
CyberG: You Nigerians have a big problem with honesty. That sickness has polluted everyone and everything in Nigeria. You conveniently turned a blind eye to my own argument, challenging his theory of secession = declaration of war. He conveniently listed only the countries that experienced breakup through war or conflict; what about other countries that broke up peacefully, like the old Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia? I decided not to list the countries that divided peacefully because it would not stop your friend continuing with his main mission, which is to insult, curse and mock Ojukwu even before his burial. He also wanted Ojukwu to die in the war, forgetting that if Ojukwu died in that war, peace would have been impossible, whether Igbos were defeated or not! I challenge you to show me any other Easterner here (never mind Igbo even) that harbors that level of hatred for Ojukwu. The only people I know here with such hatred are Northerners and Yoruba people. FACT. Your dishonesty (like Nigeria itself) is why nothing works in Nigeria.You pretend as if you are detribalised, but are far worse than those who speak out their true feelings. You pretend as if tribe is not a factor in the civil war, but even your fellow Yoruba commander Adekunle boasted that when he got to "Ibo heartland, we shoot at things that don't move". About Igbos that you see on daily basis, they are also like the Yoruba that I see on daily basis too! Nobody would say his true feelings to your face. That is the only thing unique about this forum -it gives some anonymity to commentators, thereby allowing them to say their minds freely. So, don't come here preaching to the choir; we know the truth! If this topic wasn't about the man who would go down in history as the FIRST man in Nigeria to lead a war of secession which was launched to save his people from mass murder, then tribe would not be a factor at all. The underlying issue of this topic is tribe, that is why some "fellow Nigerians" have been itching for almost 30 years to change the name of "University of Nigeria" to something else. Obviously Igboland ,to such people, is undeserving of a school by such name. Please take your "righteous anger" elsewhere! |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by ak47mann(m): 3:57am On Dec 16, 2011 |
^^^^ THANK YOU ok Facebook that they think people pretend cos of their identity,they should try igbo groups on Facebook |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by CyberG: 8:00am On Dec 16, 2011 |
^ Too late and busy now. You can be sure I won't let you get away with obfuscation of any issue. |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by olyivy(f): 8:53am On Dec 16, 2011 |
CyberG: If you can see 'fact' only in okija's post and not from other people's response to him, then it simply proves that people only see what they want to see. Who am I to change what you want to see! |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Okijajuju1(m): 10:10am On Dec 16, 2011 |
Onlytruth: 1. Please show me 1 country that has achieved an AUTONOMOUS secession without conflict. 2. If Ojukwu Had died in that conflict, then the Biafran struggle would have taken a new dimension and would still be alive today. 3. My mission is not to "Curse, mock and whatever else you have decided to make my mission", I only made my own opinion on the issue of the Man Ojukwu, His Life and his death same as all of you have done on this SIte and just because mine differs from yours, your lackeys resort to challenging my ethnicity. 4. Tribe was a major issue in that war. As a matter of fact the entire war was Tribalistic. Thats not in dispute by anybody or article ever published. 5. So you agree that this thread grants everyone the platform on which to share their "True" feelings and yet those who dont share yours must definitely not be Igbos. 6. Ojukwu would go down in history as the first man ever to lead a secessasion from Nigeria and failed. And his secessasion campaign led to the death of over 1.5 million men, women and children of his tribe and region at the hands of the same men and women he was supposedly saving them from. History also has it on record that HE RAN AWAY. History! 7. Ojukwu didnt RUN to fight another day, He ran to be pardoned, contest for Nigerian senate and Presidency, Marry the most beautiful girl in Nigeria, get involved in Anambra State politics and Die in a London hospital. If that is what you call fighting another day then I must really tripping off of this weed! 8. The underlying issue is tribe, The name UNN has been placed on the scale against the love of Igbos for BIAFRA & OJUKWU. Choose ye, this day where your allegance lies. You can either drop the name NIGERIA which you and your friends hate so much and replace it with either Biafra or Ojukwu which you and your friends have been clamouring for since your parents told you the war stories! You cant eat your cake and have it! P.S; Dont give us that line of "Ojukwu was not an Educationist" hence an Institution of Higer learning would not be a befitting monument for him because USMAN DAN FODIO was also a Jihadist and he has a University named after him. NDI IGBO, Chose ye this day who you love, NIGERIA or OJUKWU/BIAFRA! Your Hypocrisy has been shoved back in your faces! Fuc'king disgraceful cry babies! The earlier we grow up and start acting like men and not puss'ies, the earlier Nigerians of other tribes will start taking you (I cant say us, since I am an Usu) seriously! |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by nwanioma(f): 11:04am On Dec 16, 2011 |
May thunder strike them UNN to change to Ojukwu University! Useless beef! |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by EmmaSun1(m): 11:41am On Dec 16, 2011 |
In my own opinion, why i said opinion is that what ever we say here Federal Government will not even take our suggestion here in Nairaland. I'm not in support of Renaming UNN to OJUKWU. instead something else. [size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt][size=8pt]Instead declaring a day as OJUKWU day in Nigeria lol, [/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size][/size] But on a more serious note. not UNN (University of Nigeria) abeg ooo |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by olyivy(f): 12:05pm On Dec 16, 2011 |
Okija_juju:Even Eko ile or dayokanu have never repeatedly cursed igbo people they will mostly indicate they are talking about nl igbos. In all sincerity I believe they might not actually mean all the horrible things they say about igbos cos they are just having e-fun. However, your case is different. It is quite real! You are very hurtful and no one here seem to be helping you. Why dont you accept who you are and move on. Stop hating a group of people because of little mistake your mom made a long time ago! She is not the only one who eloped with aboki soldiers! |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by omar22(m): 2:02pm On Dec 16, 2011 |
The Gospel truth is that I second everything that Okija_juju has written, The main fact here is that when you blindly support someone without knowing the true fact, seems dangerous, I could remember the day when someone compared Gadhaffi to Ojukwu, thats when so many people came out and spew their anger! Jeez I said to myself, For someone to sign up to join the Army actually means you are prepared to die for what you believe in or die while serving your country, but when you lead a group to war and then run away in the middle of the cross-fire, then come back and people still idolize you? then you start think about the mindset of the people you once led. I have heard of Soldiers going to prison because they refuse to go to war, whereas we have someone who led the troops and decided to run away, then return and still been treated like he is the next miracle after our Lord Jesus Christ. Well its either a particular tribe are forgiven or extremely stupid!!! |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by ZE: 2:15pm On Dec 16, 2011 |
Okija_juju: we love BIAFRA/OJUKWU. so if UNN is ever going to be renamed. let the new name be UOB(University of Biafra) and if the federal govt want to immotalize OJUKWU let them rename NDA in Kaduna to OJUKWU Defence Academy(ODA). QED |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Okijajuju1(m): 4:35pm On Dec 16, 2011 |
ZE: The Devil will become Born-again before that will ever happen in Nigeria. Do you realize how that would be viewed by the North?! Are you trying to incite more violence?! If that is the entire idea then trust me you are on the right track. This immortalization of Ojukwu issue is quite sensitive. I respect the wishes of his many fans who feel he deserves to be immortalized. But I feel that the onus of immortalizing him should fall squarely on the shoulders of the Easterners. Ojukwu was hero to them and not to Nigeria. If Peter Obi in his infinite wisdom wants to remane the Government house in Anambra state "Ojukwu House", then he should please go ahead. If Nnewi wants to be remaned UmuOdimimegwu then fine. But forcing the Nigerian Government to immortalize him is in my opinion an insensitive move considering that his only legacy was fighting against Nigeria. Just Saying! |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by onyengbu: 5:53pm On Dec 16, 2011 |
Okija_juju:This guy is a foool! Who is forcing anybody to immortalize Ojukwu. |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Niseamaka(m): 6:13pm On Dec 16, 2011 |
ZE: |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by Niseamaka(m): 6:48pm On Dec 16, 2011 |
olyivy: ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Sister olyivy, you are the true daughter of ana-igbo. All the blessings God Almighty have bestowed on you so far will be multiplied a million fold this festive period and beyond. we igbos do not hate the way that creep does. His hatred for ndigbo and our late leader is too deep. we should sleep with one eye open always. The war may have ended over four decades ago,but in our hearts and minds, the war still rages untill Biafra becomes an accomplished reality. udo dili gi, nwanyi oma. |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by dayokanu(m): 6:52pm On Dec 16, 2011 |
Why cant they name somewhere in Abidjan after him |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by realchange: 8:46pm On Dec 16, 2011 |
^ does your uncle have anything named after him in nigeria or kalakuta republic? yorOBO maggot |
Re: Don’t Name UNN After Ojukwu, Alumni Warn FG by tpia5: 1:58am On Dec 17, 2011 |
things that can be named after people: a space station an airport a new, model town or city a ship a new institute [of science, etc] |
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