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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 7:46pm On Jan 02, 2012
BlueDiva:

I should analyze why the English record transfer player isn't performing and proffer solutions?  grin

Maybe we should bring in Xavi and Sergio for those 'killer passes'. Damn, he has those players in Spain and still isn't performing.

Ok, maybe we should instruct all our players not to score when the opportunity presents itself but rather wait for FT to arrive and position himself.

Maybe we should equally make him the highest paid player in England to ginger him or. . .

Just provide a nice broad to give him a good b*****b before every game.

play mata behind torres(simple)!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 7:52pm On Jan 02, 2012
Like they did Today?

They played Mata behind Torres

Everyone supplied Torres with delightful chances yet ,
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 7:58pm On Jan 02, 2012
dayokanu:

Like they did Today?

They played Mata behind Torres

Everyone supplied Torres with delightful chances yet ,

they did not. . . .torres was flanked by mata and ramirez.
lampard played directly behind torres.

do you need binoculars to read tactical formation?
matter of fact, playing mata on the left is the reason ashley cole is looking vulnerable this season. he gets no protection at all from mata who vacates his position often and join the action in the middle - thus leaving ashley cole exposed to attacks.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 7:59pm On Jan 02, 2012
nateevs:

I was happy with the 3pts. At some point in the game, I said all I want is a win.
However, I will never support that over a season even if we win the PL.
I, unlike you, do not believe in momentary success. I believe in a sustainable philosophy and logic.
You will never attract the best players in the world if you continue to support ugly football. 
Mario Goetze will raher join Arsenal than us, you think because he thinks he will win the PL?

Are you serious? Arsenal plays better football than Man Utd, So you think any player would join Arsenal over Man Utd?

In Italy Roma play the best football, How many players would join Roma over Inter, AC or Juve?

In Germany Bremen play the best football, How many players would join Bremen over others?


AVB has not met my expectations but unlike you, I understand why. So I don't complain unnecessarily.
You want to blame him for not providing the sexy football yet at the same time you buy home and away shirts and print Drogba and Ramires at the back. Go look at teams around the world who play good football, do they have technically inferior players like Ramires and Drogba? So what do you expect from the poor dude?

Does Man Utd play good football? if they do how come they have Valencia, Young, Fletcher etc in their squad


No I am not satisfied with his performance so far. However, and again, I understand why he has not performed.
So I wait until I see a change of personnel. If he doesn't score then I'll give up.

What I will not do though is complain about every kick, every pass every throw as though he priced himself for £50m.

The reason for lack of success in Chelsea is lack of technical players abi? But he has the best midfielders behind him in Spain, What has he done there?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by debosky(m): 8:00pm On Jan 02, 2012
Who played the pass before the assist for Ramires' goal?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 8:00pm On Jan 02, 2012
coogar:

they did not. . . .torres was flanked by mata and ramirez.
lampard played directly behind torres.

do you need binoculars to read tactical formation?
matter of fact, playing mata on the left is the reason ashley cole is looking vulnerable this season. he gets no protection at all from mata who vacates his position often and join the action in the middle - thus leaving ashley cole exposed to attacks.

Did you notice the contradiction in those 2 statements?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 8:01pm On Jan 02, 2012
debosky:

Who played the pass before the assist for Ramires goal?

Or better still who played the goalkick that was flicked by player X, to player Y who feeds player Z to score off the deflection
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 8:02pm On Jan 02, 2012
I was happy with the 3pts. At some point in the game, I said all I want is a win.
However, I will never support that over a season even if we win the PL.
I, unlike you, do not believe in momentary success. I believe in a sustainable philosophy and logic.
You will never attract the best players in the world if you continue to support ugly football.
Mario Goetze will raher join Arsenal than us, you think because he thinks he will win the PL?

At what point would you stop supporting anything for a win?
When a team keeps playing badly you have no choice than to accept any kind of win.

You don't believe in momentary success but you claim the glory when we win trophies.
Yet you diss Arsenal for their lack of trophies.

AVB has not met my expectations but unlike you, I understand why. So I don't complain unnecessarily.
You want to blame him for not providing the sexy football yet at the same time you buy home and away shirts and print Drogba and Ramires at the back. Go look at teams around the world who play good football, do they have technically inferior players like Ramires and Drogba? So what do you expect from the poor dude?

You understand that he needs better players that's why he ain't performing abi?
Isn't it your AVB who bought Miereles and Lukaku?
Are they exactly fireworks?

Who is to blame for Ramires and DD. DD was once the most feared in Europe, you remember.
Ok, throw him away because he is aging.

I want the youth to ply games. One other thing I want is to not suddenly become Arsenal.
We need 3 players immediately to fill in for Alex, Anelka and Essien.
These are senior players. We have the right quota of young players in the team already.
Those who are not ready yet have gone on loan. I will not ask more youngsters to fill in the spots of senior players.
There needs to be balance in the team and that's why I want us to go out in January.

Quote me this day, our problem isn't more players.
These present crop need to be motivated and managed properly.

I pray we buy more players in Jan and let's see if we improve, I will hound you round NL if we don't.  tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 8:08pm On Jan 02, 2012
dayokanu:

Did you notice the contradiction in those 2 statements?

which contradictions? chelsea is unbalanced when they play mata and lampard in the same game.
it exposes their defence - ashley cole is beginning to cop the clichy syndrome(which also began since arsenal signed arshavin).

mata starts from the left hand side of the attack and he quickly vacates his position to join lampard in the middle.
the same kind of problem redknapp had with van der vaart at spurs last season. lampard should rest when mata is playing.

mata must play behind torres.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 8:08pm On Jan 02, 2012
dayokanu:

Or better still who played the goalkick that was flicked by player X, to player Y who feeds player Z to score off the deflection

Nateevs and most especially, Coogar, will say the most incredible things to make a point.

Mata played the corner that was not properly cleared before Ramires showed determination to win and slot in the ball.
Kudos should go to Mata for that goal, afterall, Ramires just managed a mere shot to score. It was the nice corner kick that Mata played that mattered.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 8:10pm On Jan 02, 2012
coogar:

which contradictions? chelsea is unbalanced when they play mata and lampard in the same game.
it exposes their defence - ashley cole is beginning to cop the clichy syndrome(which also began since arsenal signed arshavin).

mata starts from the left hand side of the attack and he quickly vacates his position to join lampard in the middle.
the same kind of problem redknapp had with van der vaart at spurs last season. lampard should rest when mata is playing.

mata must play behind torres.



In the last 5-7 games how many of these games did Lampard start? yet they have had a terrible run

So how was lampard responsible for the inbalance?

Or was lampard who sits on the bench to blame again?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 8:12pm On Jan 02, 2012
dayokanu:

In the last 5-7 games how many of these games did Lampard start? yet they have had a terrible run

So how was lampard responsible for the inbalance?

Or was lampard who sits on the bench to blame again?

villas-boas should stop playing mata on the left wing!


chei. . . .sidwell scores.
senderos n sidwell(2 arsenal rejects) connived to deny arsenal 3 points
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 8:21pm On Jan 02, 2012

chei. . . .sidwell scores.
senderos n sidwell(2 arsenal rejects) connived to deny arsenal 3 points

4 games in 10 days.
Everybody must drop points.

Arsenal receives their own shock today. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 8:21pm On Jan 02, 2012
coogar:

villas-boas should stop playing mata on the left wing!

So who was playing in the middle when Lampard was benched in those games Chelsea drew?

Or was lampard disturbing Mata from the bench?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by nateevs(m): 8:23pm On Jan 02, 2012
At what point would you stop supporting anything for a win?
When a team keeps playing badly you have no choice than to accept any kind of win.

You don't believe in momentary success but you claim the glory when we win trophies.
Yet you diss Arsenal for their lack of trophies.

I diss Arsenal for their lack of trophies because they are a rival club but you all know where they are going.
Where are we going? So bloody what if we win trophies?
Chelsea cannot afford to buy Josh McEachran on the market from their own purse.
Is that your idea of sustainability? Win trophies now, stability later.


You understand that he needs better players that's why he ain't performing abi?
Isn't it your AVB who bought Miereles and Lukaku?
Are they exactly fireworks?

Who is to blame for Ramires and DD. DD was once the most feared in Europe, you remember.
Ok, throw him away because he is aging.

One will think this is coming form a Liverpool fan.
Do you know when Chelsea first made contact with Lukaku?
Chelsea's scouts identified Lukaku way before AVB became manager.
You support the club but you don't follow what the club does.
If a rival said that to you, I bet you'll just nod your head and say you agree.

Meireles was bought 1hr 15mins to the end of transfer window. Did you know that?
Is that your idea of a well scouted transfer target?
Are you just making all this up as you go along?

In one statement you say "DD was once" and in another you are asking if we should let him go.
Shevchenko "was once" one of the most feared strikers in Europe, why don't we sign him again?
Not knowing when to say goodbye is the foundation of destruction.



Quote me this day, our problem isn't more players.
These present crop need to be motivated and managed properly.

I pray we buy more players in Jan and let's see if we improve, I will hound you round NL if we don't.


Hehehe! Our problem is not more players. So if we sign Robben, Hazard, Fabregas and Tevez you think we won't improve?
Or these are not your idea of more players eh?
Wonders shall never end.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 8:23pm On Jan 02, 2012
dayokanu:

So who was playing in the middle when Lampard was benched in those games Chelsea drew?

Or was lampard disturbing Mata from the bench?

list those games and i would tell you who was operating in the middle.
the beauty of this is. . . .when lampard does not play, whoever plays in the middle can swap positions with mata. . . .lampard is useless anywhere else on the pitch apart from a central midfield role.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 8:24pm On Jan 02, 2012
AVB should play Mata in the middle, DS in CF and play Luiz at right back.
Let him try this and see a change take immediate effect.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by nateevs(m): 8:24pm On Jan 02, 2012
Arsenal go down. . . Hopefully it's downhill from here.
Nothing like seeing Arsenal lose.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by lalaboi(m): 8:25pm On Jan 02, 2012
Back in the top4! . . We gats create some kinda gap between us and arsenal oh lol
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 8:32pm On Jan 02, 2012
nateevs:

I diss Arsenal for their lack of trophies because they are a rival club but you all know where they are going.
Where are we going? So bloody what if we win trophies?

Chelsea cannot afford to buy Josh McEachran on the market from their own purse.
Is that your idea of sustainability? Win trophies now, stability later.

You really see where Arsenal is going? Can you enlighten us where Arsenal is going.

In one statement you say "DD was once" and in another you are asking if we should let him go.
Shevchenko "was once" one of the most feared strikers in Europe, why don't we sign him again?
Not knowing when to say goodbye is the foundation of destruction.

How come the technically lacking Drogba was the one who struck fear into the heart of many opponents in his hey days?

Did he suddenly become technically limited?

Drogba is old, but when the supposed in-age striker plays worse than the old one, What option does the coach have?

I ask again, How come the technical players in Spain have benefitted every striker except FERNANDO TORRES?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 8:34pm On Jan 02, 2012
BlueDiva:

4 games in 10 days.
Everybody must drop points.

Arsenal receives their own shock today. grin

united should have won every match with a high margin until fergie brain-farted!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by nateevs(m): 8:37pm On Jan 02, 2012
dayokanu:

You really see where Arsenal is going? Can you enlighten us where Arsenal is going.

How come the technically lacking Drogba was the one who struck fear into the heart of many opponents in his hey days?

Did he suddenly become technically limited?

Drogba is old, but when the supposed in-age striker plays worse than the old one, What option does the coach have?

I ask again, How come the technical players in Spain have benefitted every striker except FERNANDO TORRES?

No the coach does not have a choice. That however says more about us than it does about Drogba.
Which serious club in contention for 4 titles every season relies on a 33 year-old has-been striker?

However, some of us turn around and blame the manager for not getting the best out of the players even though they themselves confirm that DD "was once" one of the most feared strikers in Europe.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 8:41pm On Jan 02, 2012
coogar:

list those games and i would tell you who was operating in the middle.
the beauty of this is. . . .when lampard does not play, whoever plays in the middle can swap positions with mata. . . .lampard is useless anywhere else on the pitch apart from a central midfield role.

Chelsea 1 Villa 3 Mata played 90 mins Lamps was a 60th min sub

Chelsea 1 Tottenham 1 Lampard didnt play a single minute Mata played 90 min

Chelsea 2 man City 1 Mata Played 84 mins, Lampard came in 75min
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Ibime(m): 8:45pm On Jan 02, 2012
Make una leave matter for Mathias.

Some peeps accused Jamie Redknapp of nepotism when he said AVB should never bring off a 1 goal in 2.5 games player off against Fulham with 30 mins left.

Under constant attack from his manager, the part-time player has still bagged 9 goals.

What happened to the theory of the team going flat whenever Ramires doesnt start?

Ramires?

Oya!

Anyway make we celebrate the 3 points! Gaynners just lost.

Im scooting over to FPL to see how many of ma opponenents captained RVP. Suckas!  grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by dayokanu(m): 8:47pm On Jan 02, 2012
nateevs:

No the coach does not have a choice. That however says more about us than it does about Drogba.
Which serious club in contention for 4 titles every season relies on a 33 year-old has-been striker?

However, some of us turn around and blame the manager for not getting the best out of the players even though they themselves confirm that DD "was once" one of the most feared strikers in Europe.

Its not the fault of the coach cos he has a game to win else he loses his job,

Its not the fault of Drogba cos he is old and naturally cant perform like he used to

Its not the fault of the Management too because they splashed on a supposed in-age striker. What else do you want Management to do regarding the striker situation?

They realised Drogba was getting old, got Torres to replace him and Sturidge to replace Anelka. DS replaced Anelka and that gave them the confidence to sell Anelka but Torres failed to replace Drogba effectively thereby boxing the coach and the whole team into a box of having to revert to the Old and rickety Drogba

Its the fault of the new striker Torres who failed to perform.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 8:48pm On Jan 02, 2012
One will think this is coming form a Liverpool fan.
Do you know when Chelsea first made contact with Lukaku?
Chelsea's scouts identified Lukaku way before AVB became manager.
You support the club but you don't follow what the club does.
If a rival said that to you, I bet you'll just nod your head and say you agree.

Meireles was bought 1hr 15mins to the end of transfer window. Did you know that?
Is that your idea of a well scouted transfer target?
Are you just making all this up as you go along?

In one statement you say "DD was once" and in another you are asking if we should let him go.
Shevchenko was once one of the most feared strikers in Europe, why don't we sign him again?

You are funny.

Who cares if Chelsea was pursuing Lukaku in 1880?
He wasn't forced on AVB.

So what if Miereles was bought at 11th hour? Wasn't he chosen by your boss?
You wan't list of players bought at the 11th hr who lit up their team?

Hope you know the popular belief is that AVB has the ears of the owner always?
He gets what he wants and no player was forced on him.

So convenient to see DD as a failure whilst ignoring Torres' woeful performances.
A half DD is still better than a full FT right now, the stats says so.

Hehehe! Our problem is not more players. So if we sign Robben, Hazard, Fabregas and Tevez you think we won't improve?
Or these are not your idea of more players eh?
Wonders shall never end. 

I smell contradiction.
Let us get good players this Jan so we can improve right? Isn't that a quick fix?

Nateevs doesn't want a quick fix, so why do u want Hazzard, Holliet etc?
Why not bring in Frimpong, Coquelin and other untested youth so we can groom them afterall, we are looking at long term.

I don't claim to be Andy Townsend or Peter Drewy but i ain't a dummy.
You can't sell me BS, i know the price list. wink
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 8:57pm On Jan 02, 2012
dayokanu:

Chelsea 1 Villa 3 Mata played 90 mins Lamps was a 60th min sub

4-3-3.
drogba flanked by mata and sturridge.
meireles(lm), romeu(cm), ramirez(rm)


Chelsea 1 Tottenham 1 Lampard didnt play a single minute Mata played 90 min

4-3-3.
drogba flanked by mata and sturridge again.


Chelsea 2 man City 1 Mata Played 84 mins, Lampard came in 75min

4-3-3.
drogba flanked by sturridge and mata for the umpteenth time.

however, the beauty of this is sturridge, ramirez and meireles can fit in other positions should matter decide to vacate his role.
with lampard, that is not achievable as lampard is a statue who can only play in the central positions.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by Nobody: 9:05pm On Jan 02, 2012
dayokanu:

Its not the fault of the coach cos he has a game to win else he loses his job,

Its not the fault of Drogba cos he is old and naturally cant perform like he used to

Its not the fault of the Management too because they splashed on a supposed in-age striker. What else do you want Management to do regarding the striker situation?

They realised Drogba was getting old, got Torres to replace him and Sturidge to replace Anelka. DS replaced Anelka and that gave them the confidence to sell Anelka but Torres failed to replace Drogba effectively thereby boxing the coach and the whole team into a box of having to revert to the Old and rickety Drogba

Its the fault of the new striker Torres who failed to perform.

Kisses for DK. kiss kiss

We buy a new striker to take over and he doesn't.
You bring back the aging DD who still manages to put in occasional good outings.

AVB tried to help Torres.
He gave him enough chances but oga refused to fly, now we blame DD for lack of goals. Funny people.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by nateevs(m): 9:05pm On Jan 02, 2012
You are funny.

Who cares if Chelsea was pursuing Lukaku in 1880?
He wasn't forced on AVB.

So what if Miereles was bought at 11th hour? Wasn't he chosen by your boss?
You wan't list of players bought at the 11th hr who lit up their team?

Hope you know the popular belief is that AVB has the ears of the owner always?
He gets what he wants and no player was forced on him.

So convenient to see DD as a failure whilst ignoring Torres' woeful performances.
A half DD is still better than a full FT right now, the stats says so.

Are you even reading your responses?
Are you a Chelsea fan at all?
Ha! Even our most successful Manager had Shevchenko and Ballack forced on him.
Even our most successful manager could not stop the sale of Robben.
He could not force the hands of the power that be to buy players he wanted hence the famous "Good eggs and bad eggs"
JM could not stop the appointment of Grant.

Ancellotti could not stop signing of Torres, the sacking of Wilkins.

Now you are asking if Lukaku may have been forced on AVB. . .
Do you just watch Chelsea games? Do you even understand that all my posts are in response to your questions?
It looks to me like you don't understand the questions you are asking. Because I did not call DD a failure.
I am attacking you for saying DD was once the most feared striker in Europe and asking if we should let him go.
Why should you be asking such if you claim he was "once" most feared?




I smell contradiction.
Let us get good players this Jan so we can improve right? Isn't that a quick fix?

Nateevs doesn't want a quick fix, so why do u want Hazzard, Holliet etc?
Why not bring in Frimpong, Coquelin and other untested youth so we can groom them afterall, we are looking at long term.

I don't claim to be Andy Townsend or Peter Drewy but i ain't a dummy.
You can't sell me BS, i know the price list.  

Do you understand that I am responding to you?
There are no contradictions. You sound to me like you don't even understand the response.
Let me help you remember.

Quote me this day, our problem isn't more players.
These present crop need to be motivated and managed properly.
I pray we buy more players in Jan and let's see if we improve, I will hound you round NL if we don't.

Hehehe! Our problem is not more players. So if we sign Robben, Hazard, Fabregas and Tevez you think we won't improve?
Or these are not your idea of more players eh?
Wonders shall never end.  


What contradiction?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 9:05pm On Jan 02, 2012
dayokanu:

They realised Drogba was getting old, got Torres to replace him and Sturidge to replace Anelka. DS replaced Anelka and that gave them the confidence to sell Anelka but Torres failed to replace Drogba effectively thereby boxing the coach and the whole team into a box of having to revert to the Old and rickety Drogba

Its the fault of the new striker Torres who failed to perform.

they got torres to replace drogba but they have failed to build the team around torres. true or false?

torres and drogba are not the same kind of strikers. drogba is a bully - whether the pass arrives early or late, his physicality enables him to sodomize the senderoses or the vermaelens of this world - torres isn't built like that - the passes must be early enough to quickly isolate him with the last man so that he's often put through one v one with goalkeepers. dayokanu, how many times has torres got a one v one situation since he joined chelsea.

let's compare him to hernandez in the same period. hernandez thrives in united because he receives those passes early enough to put him one v one.
had chicharito joined chelsea, do you think he would have earned a name in the english league with the slow-paced chelsea team?
think about this - would inzaghi, ruud, chicharito and most strikers who often sit on the shoulder of the last defender work @ chelsea?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by AndreUweh(m): 9:07pm On Jan 02, 2012
Super Frankie is not finished yet. Chelsea have missed him a lot. If not for Lampard, Chelsea would have drawn this match today against lowly Wolves.
It's true.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Pride Of London by coogar: 9:09pm On Jan 02, 2012
Andre Uweh:

Super Frankie is not finished yet. Chelsea have missed him a lot. If not for Lampard, Chelsea would have drawn this match today against lowly Wolves.
It's true.

if it wasn't for ronaldo, united wouldn't have won a league title. man utd have missed him a lot.

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