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|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:22am On Dec 08, 2019|
LMAO. Again an old Ortiz is better than most heavyweights. Ortiz looked in better shape in the second fight than the first. Ortiz will make light work of anyone AJ has ever fought.
I'm not saying Ortiz wins against AJ, I'm just saying outboxing someone doesn't mean beating him. And Ortiz will outbox most. Him or anyone else for that matter outboxing wilder shouldn't come as a surprise.
Who are the lesser fighters that wobbled wilder bar Ortiz who buzzed him? Mind you, AJ has been dropped numerous times before. To say he's never fought someone with close to wilders power is an understatement.
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:25am On Dec 08, 2019|
The Mavericks squad has been the surprise of the season.
Had them as a 7th seed at best when the season began but for their losses to the worst team in the league, the abominable New York Knicks they would be 2nd seed at the moment. It's surprising to see the role players perform and take the load off Doncic
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:26am On Dec 08, 2019|
Dude, I can channel all the anger I want, doesn't mean I can beat bud Crawford or Errol Spence. Doesn't mean I can beat kyrie Irving one on one. The mental aspect can only get you so far, if you don't have the skills to back it up it doesn't count for sh-t.
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:31am On Dec 08, 2019|
VaughnSangrey:Ortiz is a solid fighter. No one is questioning that. However suggesting Ortiz would make light work of anyone AJ has ever fought is a wild and unverifiable claim. There is absolutely 0 evidence to back this up
It's not just outboxing but the fact that Wilder lost all 6 rounds and was significantly worse than the first fight. I like Wilder but all I'm seeing so far is he has not fought the guys packing enough heat to drop him. Fury for his size punches like a fairy, Ortiz is too old.
I'm not seeing the guys with the right combination to challenge Wilder but of all the 3 AJ is the only one with the right mix to do so.
Eric freaking Molina had Wilder on wobbly knees. AJ has more bodies on his résumé than Wilder and Fury combined. We saw how Fury got bloodied by a Swedish Uber driver the other day. These guys have not fought the caliber of fighters AJ has
|Re: The NBA Begins by DeeMain(m): 12:36am On Dec 08, 2019|
An out of 'retirement' Fury did that to him, what would a fit Fury have done to him? He wouldn't have come close to him the entire match .
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:37am On Dec 08, 2019|
VaughnSangrey:You mean midlevel guys were ducking Ortiz too? The Joseph Parkers? Povetkins and Whyte?
The bulk of Ortiz's résumé consists of tomato cans and that's the truth
Whatever reason Ortiz had for ducking AJ is moot. He did, so that really is that about that and we can never really say how a fight with him and AJ would go.
Lol is it possible for a boxer to not get hit in the course of a fight? All I'm saying is AJ is not Frank Bruno and really the one guy I believe can KO Wilder is AJ. He has sufficient technique and most importantly power. If he staggers Wilder I know for certain he has the power to go for the kill unlike Fury or Ortiz who couldn't
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:38am On Dec 08, 2019|
VaughnSangrey:Lool AJ is not a civilian. Stop this comparison. Bar Wilder nobody in the division hits harder than AJ
|Re: The NBA Begins by DeeMain(m): 12:43am On Dec 08, 2019|
The disrespect! AJ haff suffered!
And Wilder has all the skills?
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:47am On Dec 08, 2019|
Wilder doesn't need skills. He has mjolnir.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 12:50am On Dec 08, 2019|
Porz needs to stop putting up these poverty numbers and start showing up!!! I don’t want to hear he is just returning from injury, these numbers are a disgrace for a player commanding his salary! You will definitely need a fresh and healthy Doncic come post season but o fear he may run out before the post season..
|Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 12:54am On Dec 08, 2019|
I think Wilder should concentrate on Fury first. He cannot even beat Fury yet.
|Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 12:55am On Dec 08, 2019|
Ruiz is no fluke. If AJ didn't come with a gameplan, he would have gone down again
|Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 12:57am On Dec 08, 2019|
Fury and AJ is unpredictable, because both can duck each other all day
But Wilder will be dealt with properly this time by Fury. Just get ready for it
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:57am On Dec 08, 2019|
Whyte literally ducked an eliminator against Ortiz. Parker was a champ. How will guys like povetkin get their pay days if Ortiz derails their train? Like I said, high risk, low reward.
All the heavyweights have a resume filled with bums because the division is trash. Until they get that shot against a respectable opponent that is. Ortiz never got that and unfortunately for him when he did he got it against the heaviest hitting heavyweight of all time.
Fury did a very good job of not getting hit until he did and that's why he lasted that long. That's the scary thing about wilder, like you said everyone gets hit, wilder doesn't just hit he levels people. AJ has power but it's not a one punch KO type power, it's more of a he hits hard until it accumulates type power. He won't last long enough. In the heavyweight division everyone carries power and yes he has a punchers chance but it's extremely slim.
|Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 12:58am On Dec 08, 2019|
Ortiz who? The old Ortiz or who?
Ruiz KOs Ortiz... What about this?
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:01am On Dec 08, 2019|
LOL Fury ducked an immediate rematch shamelessly afterwards and ran to ESPN where he resorted to fighting carpenters. Otto Wallin gave him a cut so deep many argued the fight should have been stopped. There's a reason he didn't want that smoke. This time around I hope there won't be any excuses. I don't want to hear he's past his prime or some other BS. Soon, the bronze bomber will get the credit he deserved. One champion, one face, one name. If AJ doesn't keep hiding behind Eddie that is.
|Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 1:02am On Dec 08, 2019|
Yes, Dom Breazeale is now a reference for a good fighter.
So what happened to Fury that fought with anger? He got killed?
|Re: The NBA Begins by DeeMain(m): 1:04am On Dec 08, 2019|
And I see the weakness in that.You should too except your eyes, nose and mouth are so stuck up his arse.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:04am On Dec 08, 2019|
They keep calling Ortiz old yet they keep avoiding him. Him vs Ruiz would be interesting, but I have Ortiz by decision. Ruiz was not seen as a top heavyweight until he came round and beat AJ black and blue. Ortiz was the Boogeyman until wilder demystified him.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:07am On Dec 08, 2019|
LOL I'm the one stuck up someone's arse? you lot are over here hyping up a man for beating a Pepsi can because he's your semi compatriot without a proper boxing argument.
Wilders weakness are painfully obvious, the question is about AJ being good enough to exploit it when fighters better suited to that couldn't.
|Re: The NBA Begins by DeeMain(m): 1:08am On Dec 08, 2019|
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:13am On Dec 08, 2019|
Exactly, anger is not all it takes. Anger doesn't make a good or average fighter elite. Anger won't make AJ beat deontay.
You watch wilder fury and thought fury fought with anger? LMAO. Fury is the most skilled heavyweight, fought as smart as you can against wilder, guess what, he still landed on the ground, TWICE and the fight should arguably have ended the second time.
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:14am On Dec 08, 2019|
Roland17:Porzingis has been really disappointing lately. I hope he is just rounding into form and not a long term problem.
My grievance with him is he seems more content with shooting step back 3's than banging in the post. It's always bizarre and borderline heartbreaking to see 7footers launching 3's instead of utilizing their size advantage inside
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:18am On Dec 08, 2019|
|Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 1:22am On Dec 08, 2019|
But Fury was robbed in that fight. He won fair and square. He'll do the same again come February
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:24am On Dec 08, 2019|
Nope. He got a 12 count from a ref who admitted to his error. If he was so sure he won be should have taken an immediate rematch and removed all doubts.
|Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 1:25am On Dec 08, 2019|
"Pepsi can" . You are calling a former champ a Pepsi can. Ruiz/Wilder would be a great fight to watch. Ruiz has got fast hands and heavy punches mehn
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:27am On Dec 08, 2019|
You lot just watched a man run for 12 rounds from a scotch egg and that's the performance that gives you the notion that he can beat wilder?
|Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 1:28am On Dec 08, 2019|
True this. I'd like to see Ruiz Wilder.. Ruiz can take him out, but fortunately for him, Wilder will not underestimate him and come prepared. I wish Ruiz had fought Wilder..
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:32am On Dec 08, 2019|
Wilder for all his lack of skills never shies away from the middle of the ring. I'm not knocking on outboxers but even Mayweather didn't use that merry go round tactics against Conor and if you're saying it's because Conor didn't knock him out in a first match you're goddamn right because AJ never should've gotten smashed by the fat man in the first place if he's who he claims to be.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:33am On Dec 08, 2019|
LOL former champ indeed. All heavyweights are heavy punchers and wilder who's right hand is a gift from Hades.
I've got wilder in 5 rounds.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 1:35am On Dec 08, 2019|
Granted it was a close fight but have we forgotten Ruiz lost to Joseph friggin Parker?
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