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|Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:09pm On Apr 22|
. Una see unaself? Is it ok to now revisit CP3 being a much better floor general than Curry will ever be? CP3 on the warriors team will be in the playoffs right now, bank on it! True, he will never be the lights out shooter Curry is, but he has more impact imo. Not only in terms of bball IQ, but leading the troops to war. The way the Suns win games is the way OKC was wining games last year
Father protect me from the arrows of the alacurrys. Back to sender
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:14pm On Apr 22|
etidy:I've never understood the hype about Ben Simmons who IMO is the most overrated player in the league. I've even heard people back in the day say he could be a LeBron
|Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:14pm On Apr 22|
But thats the point isnt it? I mentioned if Heat stays healthy and gets enough time to gel versus Nets getting Harden and Durant back in the last 2 weeks gives the Heat a shot at an upset. Not because they are more talented, but just are a better team. That championship Detroit Pistons team was ugly, but they would grind it out as a team.
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:17pm On Apr 22|
birdman:Any healthy form of Brooklyn will rinse Miami. Of course like boxing they might have a puncher's chance to steal a game or two but that's about it
The Game has so much changed from the 04 Pistons era. You can't rough up players now like you could then
|Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 7:27pm On Apr 22|
Remember, refs do take into account the style of play of teams and let them play to an extent. But like you said, even breathing on Durant or Harden will draw fouls. Make we dey look
|Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 8:37pm On Apr 22|
Foolish post of the year nominee. Nothing else to add.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 8:42pm On Apr 22|
|Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 1:39am On Apr 24|
Bullshit. The stats say otherwise. They would probably be worse. CP3 may be the epitome of floor coordination, but let me put this out there, the situation Curry consistently creates by drawing, in some cases all 5 players of the opposition to himself is as effective as floor coordination if not more. Besides curry missed about 7 games at a point during the season, and the team was 1 of 7 in those games. I assume you were looking past that. First of all this team will likely be at the very bottom cos CP3 will need to bring a lot of points to the table. Are you talking about a team whose starter, Oubre was terrible early on? or a team whose center is a rookie and injured? or the fact that even Wiggins who is averaging 18 points per game scores most of his points when they are meaningless. I would rather not talk about Draymond green, the triple single master with 6.7 points, who missed some games early on too. Stop talking as if all you look at are certain aspects of the box score. Look at the minutes, games played, and the contribution of the starters. Go and look at the stats sheet of OKC last season and check the production of the starters. Some may assume that perhaps CP3 made them better, but that's hard to argue cos the only guy that fared worse Danilo Gallinari, dropping from 18.7 points to 13.4 points this year also has his minutes average reduced from 30 to 24, so it's not quite clear. So please you can praise CP3 for all his floor commanding abilities but opining that he would do better with this GSW team is something else.
|Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 2:41am On Apr 24|
curry draws at most a double team. Never all 5. Even then its usually another player helping, not a full double team. You know why? Because Curry will make his supernatural 3s, and you cant do much about that. But Curry cannot pick apart a defense the way a CP3 can. So you bother him with help defense, and live with his shot. But you know Wiggins and co will remain under-utilized, so you have a shot of still beating the warriors.
Before you respond all angry, I m just telling you that Curry has the same issue a lot of offensive juggernauts have, that is people will live with your 40 as long as the rest of your team under achieves. The next evolution in Curry's game is to study CP3 and know how to pick spots for his teammates.
|Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 5:05am On Apr 24|
I beg komot for there. Maybe CP3 should study Steph more and get a ring. . They impact the game differently. At most double team? Now i know you don't watch the games. Besides, by draw i was also referring to attention. You could sometimes see the whole team focusing on the man.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:10am On Apr 24|
I wish you did not reply this intelligently. Just call the post rubbish and move on. An intelligent person would have looked at the control experiment: Suns and GSW without CP3 and Curry to see what obtains. Just from last season, Suns had 19 more wins than GSW. Today it is 12 with both players featuring (never mind how many games Curry missed). Bearing in mind, pound for pound, Suns has a far better roster than GSW. I mean, look at GSWs bench compared to the Suns. What do some people smoke when they type? GSW is essentially a G-league outfit barring 2 All star level players and 2 other good players without Klay. Some crapanalyst wants you to believe Wiggins is not enjoying career highs in FG% and 3 PT shooting playing with Curry. With all the injuries GSW have faced this season despite their bad roster, it is CP3's so-called floor general coordination that would have given GSW 6 more wins. Nairaland needs a dislike and mute button abeg.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:12am On Apr 24|
I wish I had posted before you. Someone who checks standings and comes to post will tell us SC only faces at most double teams..lol. Crapologist.
|Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:14pm On Apr 24|
If he had Klay and Durant, he would have rings too boo
|Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 5:00pm On Apr 24|
Bullshit. Did he not have Harden, the MVP? Abi he makes everyone better now. He could have helped him get a ring. Everyone was all over the place on how they would have won if he didn't get injured the first time. But well the floor general got another chance at it and instead of taking advantage, he choked. . And don't forget Curry had one without Durant.
|Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 6:04pm On Apr 24|
Curry closed him out without Durant, while Cp3 was playing with the MVP.
|Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 10:14pm On Apr 24|
He was injured, and Rockets consequently lost the series. On the other hand, Curry still had Klay. so yeah, he is still >>> Curry as a floor general. Next?
|Re: The NBA Begins by joshboo(m): 10:31pm On Apr 24|
|Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 11:30pm On Apr 24|
Common sit down and listen. He got injured, but well he had another opportunity the following year to get past Curry, but he choked while playing alongside, Harden. KD was out of the picture, so it was a fair match-up, some might even say Houston was better with another shooter in Eric Pascal. But of course, CP3 couldn't help himself. Besides, stop digressing, we are not talking about who's better as a traditional floor general. The discussion was about whose style is more impactful.
Edit: Eric Gordon
|Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 11:31pm On Apr 24|
The Knicks are on a 9 game winning streak and Julius Randle has continued with this TEAR! Definitely deserves to be in the MVP conversation.
|Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 11:58pm On Apr 24|
Someone boldly said CP3 would have made this roster top 6 in the west. CP3 oh. Not MJ. L L
|Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:08am On Apr 25|
I can’t stop talking about Finney Smith.. One of my favorite players in the league. Defense won it for the Lakers.. AD will be ok..
|Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:18am On Apr 25|
|Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:20am On Apr 25|
The Mavs I meant.. my bad..
|Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 11:58am On Apr 25|
You guys didn't need to reply the CP3 fanboy. CP3 is a better floor general because he passes to teammates who actually get the points. Apart from Curry, I can't mention another consistent shooter on the GSW team. Curry still managed to beat the assist record of GSW even with shitty teammates. This tells you how good a passer he is (and very underrated). CP3 wouldn't do as good as curry in this situation.
The dude is just a curry hater looking for every avenue to troll. But he wasn't intelligent doing it
|Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 12:00pm On Apr 25|
Okay..let's wait and see of Harden would have a ring with Durant and Kyrie on the same team?
Some of una sef...
Didn't curry win before Durant came?
|Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 12:01pm On Apr 25|
Most improved player....yes
He should do it next season too before we can talk...
|Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 12:04pm On Apr 25|
Because he was doing it with approximately 15+ free throws and suspect foul calls from the ref.
Curry doesn't get as much calls as harden. Curry is a better shooter and offensive player and most media guys know it.
Make una yarn another thing abeg
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:25pm On Apr 25|
birdman:Na wa oh. Same CP3 that could not lead that Clippers squad to a conference final?
Is it Steph that would teach Wiggins and Oubre to score efficiently?
|Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 10:24pm On Apr 25|
They are now triple teaming Durant! This man na cheat code..
|Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:55pm On Apr 26|
Kyrie has really been balling this year but for some reason nobody seems to be talking about it
|Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 2:00pm On Apr 26|
Maybe he should play more often and stop drama queening.
|Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 4:36pm On Apr 26|
OK lets break down the clippers odoriferous saga. I know you remember Mr Glass, who always got injured come playoffs. In fact, all the playoff runs in those years was CP3 doing the best he could, getting them into the playoffs in spite of injuries. Do you remember CP3 feeding Deandre lob passes? Where do you think "lob city" came from? And that is my point! He turned DeAndre into an offensive weapon by studying the guys game. You can say they never reached WCF, true, but I can tell you DeAndre got huge contract out of it, looking like he could double double every night. If they had Mr glass consistently playing they would have come out of the WCF several times.
And that is what the best PGs do. They take time to learn each players style of play. And feed them where they are most effective. Magic did it. Lebron does it to an extent. Timmy D is the only other big I know that had flashes of it. One guy pushes his teams capabilities because he studies everyone and makes them better. Another keeps his team in the game by prodigious scoring ability. You can pick which you prefer, I just happen to think making a team stronger is more valuable.
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