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Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:09pm On Apr 22
lipsrsealed . Una see unaself? Is it ok to now revisit CP3 being a much better floor general than Curry will ever be? CP3 on the warriors team will be in the playoffs right now, bank on it! True, he will never be the lights out shooter Curry is, but he has more impact imo. Not only in terms of bball IQ, but leading the troops to war. The way the Suns win games is the way OKC was wining games last year

Father protect me from the arrows of the alacurrys. Back to sender angry

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:14pm On Apr 22
etidy:
Ben Simmons is just light skinned draymond with hype grin. Yeah I said it
I've never understood the hype about Ben Simmons who IMO is the most overrated player in the league. I've even heard people back in the day say he could be a LeBron

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Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:14pm On Apr 22
A40:
A healthy Brooklyn squad will tear Miami to shreds. Their danger right now is injury as that team just feels jinxed

But thats the point isnt it? I mentioned if Heat stays healthy and gets enough time to gel versus Nets getting Harden and Durant back in the last 2 weeks gives the Heat a shot at an upset. Not because they are more talented, but just are a better team. That championship Detroit Pistons team was ugly, but they would grind it out as a team.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:17pm On Apr 22
birdman:


But thats the point isnt it? I mentioned if Heat stays healthy and gets enough time to gel versus Nets getting Harden and Durant back in the last 2 weeks gives the Heat a shot at an upset. Not because they are more talented, but just are a better team. That championship Detroit Pistons team was ugly, but they would grind it out as a team.
Any healthy form of Brooklyn will rinse Miami. Of course like boxing they might have a puncher's chance to steal a game or two but that's about it

The Game has so much changed from the 04 Pistons era. You can't rough up players now like you could then
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 7:27pm On Apr 22
A40:
Any healthy form of Brooklyn will rinse Miami. Of course like boxing they might have a puncher's chance to steal a game or two but that's about it

The Game has so much changed from the 04 Pistons era. You can't rough up players now like you could then

Remember, refs do take into account the style of play of teams and let them play to an extent. But like you said, even breathing on Durant or Harden will draw fouls. Make we dey look
Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 8:37pm On Apr 22
birdman:
lipsrsealed . Una see unaself? Is it ok to now revisit CP3 being a much better floor general than Curry will ever be? CP3 on the warriors team will be in the playoffs right now, bank on it! True, he will never be the lights out shooter Curry is, but he has more impact imo. Not only in terms of bball IQ, but leading the troops to war. The way the Suns win games is the way OKC was wining games last year

Father protect me from the arrows of the alacurrys. Back to sender angry

Foolish post of the year nominee. Nothing else to add.
Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 8:42pm On Apr 22
steady986:
When James Harden was lighting up the league in 18/19 nobody was shouting MVP (except me of course, my receipts are here smiley). Man literally went 32 games scoring at least 30, averaging 41 in the process. But here we are with Curry going on an 11-game streak scoring 30 and his shameless fanboys are screaming MVP. Not to even add to the fact that he's languishing in 9th position. In 18/19 Harden finished 4th with a record if 53-29, just 4 games behind 1st placed Warriors.

That was the biggest robbery in the history of this game. Las las this game na about love and hate. Harden isn't as loved as Curry. If it were Curry that had those numbers in 18/19 he's winning the MVP straight up. Fans don't like Harden, and that's just the plain truth.

grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 1:39am On Apr 24
Bullshit. The stats say otherwise. They would probably be worse. CP3 may be the epitome of floor coordination, but let me put this out there, the situation Curry consistently creates by drawing, in some cases all 5 players of the opposition to himself is as effective as floor coordination if not more. Besides curry missed about 7 games at a point during the season, and the team was 1 of 7 in those games. I assume you were looking past that. First of all this team will likely be at the very bottom cos CP3 will need to bring a lot of points to the table. Are you talking about a team whose starter, Oubre was terrible early on? or a team whose center is a rookie and injured? or the fact that even Wiggins who is averaging 18 points per game scores most of his points when they are meaningless. I would rather not talk about Draymond green, the triple single master with 6.7 points, who missed some games early on too. Stop talking as if all you look at are certain aspects of the box score. Look at the minutes, games played, and the contribution of the starters. Go and look at the stats sheet of OKC last season and check the production of the starters. Some may assume that perhaps CP3 made them better, but that's hard to argue cos the only guy that fared worse Danilo Gallinari, dropping from 18.7 points to 13.4 points this year also has his minutes average reduced from 30 to 24, so it's not quite clear. So please you can praise CP3 for all his floor commanding abilities but opining that he would do better with this GSW team is something else.
birdman:
lipsrsealed . Una see unaself? Is it ok to now revisit CP3 being a much better floor general than Curry will ever be? CP3 on the warriors team will be in the playoffs right now, bank on it! True, he will never be the lights out shooter Curry is, but he has more impact imo. Not only in terms of bball IQ, but leading the troops to war. The way the Suns win games is the way OKC was wining games last year

Father protect me from the arrows of the alacurrys. Back to sender angry

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Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 2:41am On Apr 24
benji93:
Bullshit. The stats say otherwise. They would probably be worse. CP3 may be the epitome of floor coordination, but let me put this out there, the situation Curry consistently creates by drawing, in some cases all 5 players of the opposition to himself is as effective as floor coordination if not more. Besides curry missed about 7 games at a point during the season, and the team was 1 of 7 in those games. I assume you were looking past that. First of all this team will likely be at the very bottom cos CP3 will need to bring a lot of points to the table. Are you talking about a team whose starter, Oubre was terrible early on? or a team whose center is a rookie and injured? or the fact that even Wiggins who is averaging 18 points per game scores most of his points when they are meaningless. I would rather not talk about Draymond green, the triple single master with 6.7 points, who missed some games early on too. Stop talking as if all you look at are certain aspects of the box score. Look at the minutes, games played, and the contribution of the starters. Go and look at the stats sheet of OKC last season and check the production of the starters. Some may assume that perhaps CP3 made them better, but that's hard to argue cos the only guy that fared worse Danilo Gallinari, dropping from 18.7 points to 13.4 points this year also has his minutes average reduced from 30 to 24, so it's not quite clear. So please you can praise CP3 for all his floor commanding abilities but opining that he would do better with this GSW team is something else.

curry draws at most a double team. Never all 5. Even then its usually another player helping, not a full double team. You know why? Because Curry will make his supernatural 3s, and you cant do much about that. But Curry cannot pick apart a defense the way a CP3 can. So you bother him with help defense, and live with his shot. But you know Wiggins and co will remain under-utilized, so you have a shot of still beating the warriors.

Before you respond all angry, I m just telling you that Curry has the same issue a lot of offensive juggernauts have, that is people will live with your 40 as long as the rest of your team under achieves. The next evolution in Curry's game is to study CP3 and know how to pick spots for his teammates.
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 5:05am On Apr 24
I beg komot for there. Maybe CP3 should study Steph more and get a ring. cheesy. They impact the game differently. At most double team? Now i know you don't watch the games. Besides, by draw i was also referring to attention. You could sometimes see the whole team focusing on the man.
birdman:


curry draws at most a double team. Never all 5. Even then its usually another player helping, not a full double team. You know why? Because Curry will make his supernatural 3s, and you cant do much about that. But Curry cannot pick apart a defense the way a CP3 can. So you bother him with help defense, and live with his shot. But you know Wiggins and co will remain under-utilized, so you have a shot of still beating the warriors.

Before you respond all angry, I m just telling you that Curry has the same issue a lot of offensive juggernauts have, that is people will live with your 40 as long as the rest of your team under achieves. The next evolution in Curry's game is to study CP3 and know how to pick spots for his teammates.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:10am On Apr 24
benji93:
Bullshit. The stats say otherwise. They would probably be worse. CP3 may be the epitome of floor coordination, but let me put this out there, the situation Curry consistently creates by drawing, in some cases all 5 players of the opposition to himself is as effective as floor coordination if not more. Besides curry missed about 7 games at a point during the season, and the team was 1 of 7 in those games. I assume you were looking past that. First of all this team will likely be at the very bottom cos CP3 will need to bring a lot of points to the table. Are you talking about a team whose starter, Oubre was terrible early on? or a team whose center is a rookie and injured? or the fact that even Wiggins who is averaging 18 points per game scores most of his points when they are meaningless. I would rather not talk about Draymond green, the triple single master with 6.7 points, who missed some games early on too. Stop talking as if all you look at are certain aspects of the box score. Look at the minutes, games played, and the contribution of the starters. Go and look at the stats sheet of OKC last season and check the production of the starters. Some may assume that perhaps CP3 made them better, but that's hard to argue cos the only guy that fared worse Danilo Gallinari, dropping from 18.7 points to 13.4 points this year also has his minutes average reduced from 30 to 24, so it's not quite clear. So please you can praise CP3 for all his floor commanding abilities but opining that he would do better with this GSW team is something else.

I wish you did not reply this intelligently. Just call the post rubbish and move on. An intelligent person would have looked at the control experiment: Suns and GSW without CP3 and Curry to see what obtains. Just from last season, Suns had 19 more wins than GSW. Today it is 12 with both players featuring (never mind how many games Curry missed). Bearing in mind, pound for pound, Suns has a far better roster than GSW. I mean, look at GSWs bench compared to the Suns. What do some people smoke when they type? GSW is essentially a G-league outfit barring 2 All star level players and 2 other good players without Klay. Some crapanalyst wants you to believe Wiggins is not enjoying career highs in FG% and 3 PT shooting playing with Curry. With all the injuries GSW have faced this season despite their bad roster, it is CP3's so-called floor general coordination that would have given GSW 6 more wins. Nairaland needs a dislike and mute button abeg.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:12am On Apr 24
benji93:
I beg komot for there. Maybe CP3 should study Steph more and get a ring. cheesy. They impact the game differently. At most double team? Now i know you don't watch the games. Besides, by draw i was also referring to attention. You could sometimes see the whole team focusing on the man.

I wish I had posted before you. Someone who checks standings and comes to post will tell us SC only faces at most double teams..lol. Crapologist.

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Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:14pm On Apr 24
benji93:
I beg komot for there. Maybe CP3 should study Steph more and get a ring. cheesy. They impact the game differently. At most double team? Now i know you don't watch the games. Besides, by draw i was also referring to attention. You could sometimes see the whole team focusing on the man.

If he had Klay and Durant, he would have rings too boo
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 5:00pm On Apr 24
Bullshit. Did he not have Harden, the MVP? Abi he makes everyone better now. He could have helped him get a ring. Everyone was all over the place on how they would have won if he didn't get injured the first time. But well the floor general got another chance at it and instead of taking advantage, he choked. cheesy. And don't forget Curry had one without Durant.
birdman:


If he had Klay and Durant, he would have rings too boo

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Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 6:04pm On Apr 24
benji93:
Bullshit. Did he not have Harden, the MVP? Abi he makes everyone better now. He could have helped him get a ring. Everyone was all over the place on how they would have won if he didn't get injured the first time. But well the floor general got another chance at it and instead of taking advantage, he choked. cheesy. And don't forget Curry had one without Durant.

Curry closed him out without Durant, while Cp3 was playing with the MVP.

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Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 10:14pm On Apr 24
benji93:
Bullshit. Did he not have Harden, the MVP? Abi he makes everyone better now. He could have helped him get a ring. Everyone was all over the place on how they would have won if he didn't get injured the first time. But well the floor general got another chance at it and instead of taking advantage, he choked. cheesy. And don't forget Curry had one without Durant.

He was injured, and Rockets consequently lost the series. On the other hand, Curry still had Klay. so yeah, he is still >>> Curry as a floor general. Next?
Re: The NBA Begins by joshboo(m): 10:31pm On Apr 24
GIANNIS.......
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 11:30pm On Apr 24
Common sit down and listen. He got injured, but well he had another opportunity the following year to get past Curry, but he choked while playing alongside, Harden. KD was out of the picture, so it was a fair match-up, some might even say Houston was better with another shooter in Eric Pascal. But of course, CP3 couldn't help himself. Besides, stop digressing, we are not talking about who's better as a traditional floor general. The discussion was about whose style is more impactful.

Edit: Eric Gordon
birdman:


He was injured, and Rockets consequently lost the series. On the other hand, Curry still had Klay. so yeah, he is still >>> Curry as a floor general. Next?

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Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 11:31pm On Apr 24
The Knicks are on a 9 game winning streak and Julius Randle has continued with this TEAR! Definitely deserves to be in the MVP conversation.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 11:58pm On Apr 24
benji93:
Common sit down and listen. He got injured, but well he had another opportunity the following year to get past Curry, but he choked while playing alongside, Harden. KD was out of the picture, so it was a fair match-up, some might even say Houston was better with another shooter in Eric Pascal. But of course, CP3 couldn't help himself. Besides, stop digressing, we are not talking about who's better as a traditional floor general. The discussion was about whose style is more impactful.

Someone boldly said CP3 would have made this roster top 6 in the west. CP3 oh. Not MJ. L grin L
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:08am On Apr 25
I can’t stop talking about Finney Smith.. One of my favorite players in the league. Defense won it for the Lakers.. AD will be ok..
Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:18am On Apr 25
Roland17:
I can’t stop talking about Finney Smith.. One of my favorite players in the league. Defense won it for the Lakers.. AD will be ok..

Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:20am On Apr 25
Android17:



The Mavs I meant.. my bad..
Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 11:58am On Apr 25
Android17:


I wish you did not reply this intelligently. Just call the post rubbish and move on. An intelligent person would have looked at the control experiment: Suns and GSW without CP3 and Curry to see what obtains. Just from last season, Suns had 19 more wins than GSW. Today it is 12 with both players featuring (never mind how many games Curry missed). Bearing in mind, pound for pound, Suns has a far better roster than GSW. I mean, look at GSWs bench compared to the Suns. What do some people smoke when they type? GSW is essentially a G-league outfit barring 2 All star level players and 2 other good players without Klay. Some crapanalyst wants you to believe Wiggins is not enjoying career highs in FG% and 3 PT shooting playing with Curry. With all the injuries GSW have faced this season despite their bad roster, it is CP3's so-called floor general coordination that would have given GSW 6 more wins. Nairaland needs a dislike and mute button abeg.

You guys didn't need to reply the CP3 fanboy. CP3 is a better floor general because he passes to teammates who actually get the points. Apart from Curry, I can't mention another consistent shooter on the GSW team. Curry still managed to beat the assist record of GSW even with shitty teammates. This tells you how good a passer he is (and very underrated). CP3 wouldn't do as good as curry in this situation.

The dude is just a curry hater looking for every avenue to troll. But he wasn't intelligent doing it

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Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 12:00pm On Apr 25
birdman:


If he had Klay and Durant, he would have rings too boo

Okay..let's wait and see of Harden would have a ring with Durant and Kyrie on the same team?

Some of una sef...

Didn't curry win before Durant came?

Crapologist grin grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 12:01pm On Apr 25
Roland17:
The Knicks are on a 9 game winning streak and Julius Randle has continued with this TEAR! Definitely deserves to be in the MVP conversation.

Nope...

Most improved player....yes

Not MVP

He should do it next season too before we can talk...
Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 12:04pm On Apr 25
steady986:
When James Harden was lighting up the league in 18/19 nobody was shouting MVP (except me of course, my receipts are here smiley). Man literally went 32 games scoring at least 30, averaging 41 in the process. But here we are with Curry going on an 11-game streak scoring 30 and his shameless fanboys are screaming MVP. Not to even add to the fact that he's languishing in 9th position. In 18/19 Harden finished 4th with a record if 53-29, just 4 games behind 1st placed Warriors.

That was the biggest robbery in the history of this game. Las las this game na about love and hate. Harden isn't as loved as Curry. If it were Curry that had those numbers in 18/19 he's winning the MVP straight up. Fans don't like Harden, and that's just the plain truth.

Because he was doing it with approximately 15+ free throws and suspect foul calls from the ref.

Curry doesn't get as much calls as harden. Curry is a better shooter and offensive player and most media guys know it.

Make una yarn another thing abeg
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:25pm On Apr 25
birdman:


curry draws at most a double team. Never all 5. Even then its usually another player helping, not a full double team. You know why? Because Curry will make his supernatural 3s, and you cant do much about that. But Curry cannot pick apart a defense the way a CP3 can. So you bother him with help defense, and live with his shot. But you know Wiggins and co will remain under-utilized, so you have a shot of still beating the warriors.

Before you respond all angry, I m just telling you that Curry has the same issue a lot of offensive juggernauts have, that is people will live with your 40 as long as the rest of your team under achieves. The next evolution in Curry's game is to study CP3 and know how to pick spots for his teammates.
Na wa oh. Same CP3 that could not lead that Clippers squad to a conference final?

Is it Steph that would teach Wiggins and Oubre to score efficiently?

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Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 10:24pm On Apr 25
They are now triple teaming Durant! This man na cheat code..

#slimreaper
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:55pm On Apr 26
Kyrie has really been balling this year but for some reason nobody seems to be talking about it
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 2:00pm On Apr 26
Maybe he should play more often and stop drama queening. grin
A40:
Kyrie has really been balling this year but for some reason nobody seems to be talking about it
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 4:36pm On Apr 26
A40:
Na wa oh. Same CP3 that could not lead that Clippers squad to a conference final?

Is it Steph that would teach Wiggins and Oubre to score efficiently?

OK lets break down the clippers odoriferous saga. I know you remember Mr Glass, who always got injured come playoffs. In fact, all the playoff runs in those years was CP3 doing the best he could, getting them into the playoffs in spite of injuries. Do you remember CP3 feeding Deandre lob passes? Where do you think "lob city" came from? And that is my point! He turned DeAndre into an offensive weapon by studying the guys game. You can say they never reached WCF, true, but I can tell you DeAndre got huge contract out of it, looking like he could double double every night. If they had Mr glass consistently playing they would have come out of the WCF several times.

And that is what the best PGs do. They take time to learn each players style of play. And feed them where they are most effective. Magic did it. Lebron does it to an extent. Timmy D is the only other big I know that had flashes of it. One guy pushes his teams capabilities because he studies everyone and makes them better. Another keeps his team in the game by prodigious scoring ability. You can pick which you prefer, I just happen to think making a team stronger is more valuable.

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