Mynd_44:

^^^
The sad reality

Mynd_44:

^^
Too bad the afterlive ain't any better

lola.luv:

The human language itself is sexist in nature! And this is pari passu to a sexist society. Because attitude and belief is embedded in language!

Oko Ashawo which is used for males ends up being a compliment.
Ashawo, when used on a female becomes abuse!

Also, an unmarried man is described forever as a bachelor. While an unmarried woman passes from being described as a spinster to an old maid. Old maid connotes dried up and undesirable, while bachelor connotes freedom and desirability.

MsDarkSkin:

beautiful point however one female Nlder in particular living in Aussie kind of justifies that stereotype 

MsDarkSkin:

pessimist aren't we?

sexkillz:

E mo fine!

Mynd_44:

Too bad the afterlive ain't any better

OK2NV:

mammal males evolved  a nutt-sack for one reason.
think of a nutsack as a fuel tank.
male species suddenly could get more mileage.
we were made to plough as many fields.

emöfine:

So from what I'm reading[size=14pt] the structure of such role could be appropriated to biological disposition/nature and tradition [/size] . . .

. . . and more importantly, it is biblical for women to ALWAYS be submissive to men ;---- Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in EVERYTHING.

The origins of sexism is in the Bible.

claremont:

. . . and more importantly, it is biblical for women to ALWAYS be submissive to men ;---- Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in EVERYTHING.

LMAO! Atheist dey quote bible as e reach woman matter. . . Chei!

emöfine:


kedu?

Odinma! Giwa kwanu?

emöfine:

Notions of the s[i]e[/i]xu[i]a[/i]l status of a man and a woman seem to lay in contrast with one another. Negative perceptions are often attached to the promiscuous woman/virgin male whereas when these roles are exchanged within the genders - i.e. The "stud"/virgin woman - are generally met with approval.

I've observed that it's not unusual for a man who has had numerous s[i]e[/i]xu[i]a[/i]l partners to be met with compliments whilst the reverse is the case for the woman equivalent.
Alternatively, female virgins are usually regarded highly whereas male virgins often times are sneered at.

-why should gender be a factor in how certain roles are determined/received?

-why is there a value attached to a woman's chastity but a man's sexuality?

Mynd_44:

You think the afterlive is fair?

sexkillz:

LMAO! Atheist dey quote bible as e reach woman matter. . . Chei!

sexkillz:

Odinma! Giwa kwanu?

MsDarkSkin:

yes sweetie because you see women get 72 male virgins after death. 

MsDarkSkin:

yes sweetie because you see women get 72 male virgins after death.

i could have told you LONG TIME that claremont is full of it!!
the guy is as much of an atheist as I am Somali

MsDarkSkin:

it's all about history. back then women had no rights.
we were but property and here solely for the purpose of baring children.
the number of wives/children a man had was a physical representation of his
status, wealth and actually showed off his being potent.   The male Ego
and appealing to it, is actually the oldest religion  Back then and for the majority
of the world that still practice traditional customs, a man's name is VERY important.
His children and wife/wives MUST have good reputations so as not to taint his name.

In the west culture is not necessarily the factor behind the mentality but still,

if you were a man who wanted to be the "big dog" would you rather have the "wh0rish
vulgar baby mama" or the "de-virgined by me innocent perfect sweetie pie"? 

the years and times have changed but the mentality has not. regardless of your cultural
or religious background it all remains the same. women are regarded as the receivers
of s3x and therefore should be "clean and virtuous" regardless of the status of her male
counterpart.

No it's not fair but we women are actually our biggest critics. We provide the platform for other
women to be ridiculed. Not calling any names, but it's like one NLder who lied on another female
in order to "awe" the spectators and questioned her s3xuality and values in hopes that the men will
chip in. lol so it's actually more complex than we think.

sauer:

^^^your arguments fall flat when you regard the Spartan society where women enjoyed almost equal rights as men, were no tool for child-bearing, and certainly no physical representation of a man's wealth or social status. Yet praises were sung of virgins by men and women alike!

MsDarkSkin:

yes sweetie because you see women get 72 male virgins after death.

emöfine:

Really? I thought it was only a few but not up to double digits lol. . .

sauer:

^^^your arguments fall flat when you regard the Spartan society where women enjoyed almost equal rights as men, were no tool for child-bearing, and certainly no physical representation of a man's wealth or social status. Yet praises were sung of virgins by men and women alike!

Mynd_44:

That makes the afterlive unfair. They would ravage your punny so badly, you would wish for the pains of live itself

MsDarkSkin:

dude what did one tribe in Greece have to do with the attitudes of the rest of the ancient world? what is your point?? seriously. I am well aware of Spartan history and the freedom of the women compared to other Greek women, however the women still had their roles to play. None could call shots in gov't or run the clan yet they were able to go to school and enjoy rights like their male counterparts. EVERY Spartan woman would strive to birth healthy sons as opposed to daughters due to their tribe reputation of producing strong and fierce male warriors hence their women being required to be physically fit as they believed a strong woman would give birth to a strong son. Every woman was raised to respect every male. The society was still patriarchal no matter how you flip the coin.

Goddesses are nothing new or unique to the Spartans, look @ the yoruba tribe. female deities and mythical Goddesses yet women dare not try to behave or act like a man, ancient egypt too had goddesses yet NO woman dared be aspire to be a priest or pharaoh. In all three societies as with the rest of the world men were still regarded as the "top dogs and shot callers". Also men were able to wed as many women they wanted to. Again Sparta only differs in that women could file for divorce however unlike the men they could only have one partner at a time. 

On a global scale disrespect, double standard and second class citizenry of women is ancient and present. The past has everything to do with the bull women still face today.