Most people must have observed that Muslim dominated countries systematically discriminate against minorities in such countries. the government in most of these countries even sponsor terrorist groups in other countries and they also arm militant and paramilitary groups within their own country to perpetuate racial hatred and cause fear among the non-muslims. These groups enjoy subtle and blatant support among fellow muslims. As a non-muslim, that has good job or business, steady income and a "perfect comfortable life". How do you protect and defend your believe and freedom? do employ the islamic tactic or you just wait till you are consumed? As we all know if don't bother them they will bother because they believe they occupy the moral high ground.What do you do, these groups are committed to this cause 24/7 of their lives.

i think instead of generalizing,it is best you cite examples.i am sure there are cases i will agree with you and others which i will not.

it is better to be specific than to post pictures of Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah,a leader of the Lebanese resistance to israeli occupation alongside the illitrate fool and CIA agent of boko haram.Ahmadinejad is president of Iran and also al-Bashir is president of Sudan.why did you post the picture of a boko haram fool alongside the pictures of those men?that is not fair as that could be seen no less than what you are complaining about and moreover an attempt at propaganda.

Oh well. That is what religion does best. Steal, kill and propagate evil in the name of their Gods and Prophets.
Homosexuals are also 'minorities' in Christian countries abi?
We can also relate the concept of rabid discrimination in the name of the Christian God too.
Pretty dumb!

In the same vein, we can also infer that women and children are discriminated against in Christian PRIMITIVE SOCIETIES.

You reap what you sow. . . Praise YOUR God!

Preamble

Conversion to Islam is simple (cf. shahada), but Muslims are forbidden to convert from Islam to another religion (cf. Apostasy in Islam). Certain Muslim-majority countries are known for their restrictions on religious freedom, highly favoring Muslim citizens over non-Muslim citizens. Other countries, having the same restrictive laws, tend to be more liberal when imposing them. Even other Muslim-majority countries are secular and thus do not regulate religious belief.

In Iran, the constitution recognizes four religions whose status is formally protected: Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.[47] The constitution, however, also set the groundwork for the institutionalized persecution of Bahá'ís,[48] who have been subjected to arrests, beatings, executions, confiscation and destruction of property, and the denial of civil rights and liberties, and the denial of access to higher education.[47] There is no freedom of conscience in Iran, as converting from Islam to any other religion is forbidden.
In Egypt, a 16 December 2006 judgment of the Supreme Administrative Council created a clear demarcation between recognized religions — Islam, Christianity and Judaism — and all other religious beliefs; no other religious affiliation is officially admissible. The ruling leaves members of other religious communities, including Bahá'ís, without the ability to obtain the necessary government documents to have rights in their country, essentially denying them of all rights of citizenship. They cannot obtain ID cards, birth certificates, death certificates, marriage or divorce certificates, and passports; they also cannot be employed, educated, treated in public hospitals or vote, among other things

In Islamic law (Sharia), the consensus view is that a male apostate must be put to death unless he suffers from a mental disorder or converted under duress, for example, due to an imminent danger of being killed. A female apostate must be either executed, according to Shafi'i, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh), or imprisoned until she reverts to Islam as advocated by the Sunni Hanafi school and by Shi'a scholars.
Ideally, the one performing the execution of an apostate must be an imam. At the same time, all schools of Islamic jurisprudence agree that any Muslim can kill an apostate without punishment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion

The Minorities

Bahai

The Bahá'ís are Iran's largest religious minority, and Iran is the location of one of the largest Bahá'í populations in the world. Bahá'ís in Iran have allegedly been subject to unwarranted arrests, false imprisonment, beatings, torture, unjustified executions, confiscation and destruction of property owned by individuals and the Bahá'í community, denial of employment, denial of government benefits, denial of civil rights and liberties, and denial of access to higher education. Bahá'ís continue to be persecuted in Islamic countries, as Islamic leaders do not recognize the Bahá'í Faith as an independent religion, but rather as apostasy from Islam. The most severe persecutions have occurred in Iran, where over 200 Bahá'ís were executed between 1978 and 1998,and in Egypt. More recently, in the later months of 2005, an intensive anti-Bahá'í campaign was conducted by Iranian newspapers and radio stations. The state-run and influential Kayhan newspaper, whose managing editor is appointed by Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei [1], ran nearly three dozen articles defaming the Bahá'í Faith. The rights of Bahá'ís have been restricted to greater or lesser extents in numerous other countries, including Afghanistan, Indonesia, Iraq, Morocco, and several countries in sub-Saharan Africa.

Since the Islamic Revolution of 1979 Iranian Bahá'ís have regularly had their homes ransacked or been banned from attending university or holding government jobs, and several hundred have received prison sentences for their religious beliefs, most recently for participating in study circles.[69] Bahá'í cemeteries have been desecrated and property seized and occasionally demolished, including the House of Mírzá Buzurg, Bahá'u'lláh's father.[44] The House of the Báb in Shiraz, one of three sites to which Bahá'ís perform pilgrimage, has been destroyed twice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_persecution

Shia

The dispute over the right successor to Muhammad resulted in the formation of two main sects, the Sunni and the Shia. The Sunni, or "followers of the way," followed the caliphate and maintained the premise that any devout Muslim could potentially become the successor to Muhammad if accepted by his peers. The Shia, however, maintain that only the person selected by God and announced by the Prophet could become his successor; thus, Ali became the religious authority for the Shia people. Militarily established and holding control over the Umayyad government, many Sunni rulers perceived the Shia as a threat – both to their political and religious authority.

Shias in Kashmir in subsequent years had to pass through the most atrocious period of their history. Plunder, loot and massacres which came to be known as ‘Taarajs’ virtually devastated the community. History records 10 such Taarajs also known as ‘Taraj-e-Shia’ between 15th to 19th century in 1548, 1585, 1635, 1686, 1719, 1741, 1762, 1801, 1830, 1872 during which the Shia habitations were plundered, people slaughtered, libraries burnt and their sacred sites desecrated. Such was the reign of terror during this period that the community widely went into the practice of Taqya in order to preserve their lives and the honor of their womenfolk.

In Bahrain the Sunni élite treats Shi'ites as an underclass, limiting them primarily to manual labor and denying them a fair share of state resources. "For Shi'ites, Sunni rule has been like living under apartheid." An estimated 1000 Bahrainis have been detained since a 2011 uprising and Bahraini and international human rights groups have documented hundreds of cases of torture and abuse of Shia detainees.[16] According to csmonitor.org, the government has gone beyond the crushing of political dissent to what "appears" to be an attempt to "psychologically humiliating the island’s Shiite majority into silent submission.Discrimination against Shia Muslims in Bahrain is severe and systematic enough for a number of sources (Time magazine,[17] Vali Nasr, Yitzhak Nakash, Counterpunch,[18] Bahrain Centre for Human Rights,[19] etc.) to have used the term “apartheid” in describing it. The Christian Science Monitor describes Bahrain as practicing a form of sectarian apartheid by not allowing Shiites to hold key government posts or serve in the police or military. In fact, the security forces are staffed by Sunnis from Syria, Pakistan, and Baluchistan who also get fast-tracked to Bahraini citizenship, much to the displeasure of the indigenous Shiite population

The Sunni rulers under the Umayyads sought to marginalize the Shia minority, and later the Abbasids turned on their Shia allies and imprisoned, persecuted, and killed them. The persecution of the Shia throughout history by Sunni co-religionists has often been characterized by brutal and genocidal acts. Comprising only about 10–15% of the entire Muslim population, the Shia remain a marginalized community to this day in many Sunni Arab dominant countries without the rights to practice their religion and organize.

In Saudi Arabia for years, they have faced religious and economic discrimination because they’re viewed as Iranian puppets. They have usually been denounced as heretics, traitors, and non-Muslims. Shias were accused of sabotage, most notably for bombing oil pipelines in 1988. A number of Shias were even executed. In response to Iran’s militancy, the Saudi government collectively punished the Shia community in Saudi Arabia by placing restrictions on their freedoms and marginalizing them economically. Wahabi ulama were given the green light to sanction violence against the Shia. What followed were fatwas passed by the country’s leading cleric, Abdul-Aziz ibn Baz which denounced the Shias as apostates. Another by Adul-Rahman al-Jibrin, a member of the Higher Council of Ulama even sanctioned the killing of Shias. This call was reiterated in Wahabi religious literature as late as 2002. The government has restricted the names that Shias can use for their children in an attempt to discourage them from showing their identity. Saudi textbooks, criticized for their anti-Semitism, are equally hostile to Shiism often characterizing the faith as a form of heresy worse than Christianity and Judaism. Wahabi teachers frequently tell classrooms full of young Shia schoolchildren that they are heretics. In the town of Dammam, a quarter of whose residents are Shia Ashura is banned, and there is no distinctly Shia call to prayer. There is no Shia cemetery for the nearly quarter of the 600,000 Shias that live there. There is only one mosque for the town’s 150,000 Shias. The Saudi government has often been viewed as an active oppressor of Shias because of the funding of the Wahabi ideology which denounces the Shia faith

At various times Shia groups have faced persecution. In 1514 the Ottoman sultan, Selim I ,ordered the massacre of 40,000 Anatolian Shia. According to Jalal Al-e-Ahmad, "Sultan Selim I carried things so far that he announced that the killing of one Shiite had as much otherworldly reward as killing 70 Christians."In 1801 the Al Saud-Wahhabi armies attacked and sacked Karbala, the Shia shrine in eastern Iraq that commemorates the death of Husayn.
In March 2011, the Malaysian government declared the Shia a 'deviant' sect and banned them from promoting their faith to other Muslims, but left them free to practise it themselves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Shia_Muslims

Christians

In 1842 Assyrians living in the mountains of Hakkari in south east Anatolia faced a massive unprovoked attack from Ottoman forces and Kurdish irregulars, which resulted in the death of tens of thousands of unarmed Christian Assyrians. The Young Turks government of the collapsing Ottoman Empire in 1915 persecuted Christian populations in Anatolia, Persia and Northern Mesopotamia. The onslaught by the Ottoman army, including Kurdish and Circassian irregulars resulting in an estimated 2.1 million deaths, divided between roughly 1.2 Million Armenian Christians, 0.75 million Assyrians and 0.3 million Greek Orthodox Christians, a number of Georgians were also killed. The Genocide led to the devastation of ancient indigenous Christian peoples who had existed in the region for thousands of years
The Turkish troops looted the remains of settlements and these were later stolen and occupied by Muslim Kurds. Unarmed Christian women and children were raped, tortured and murdered. The most significant recent persecution against the Assyrian Christian population was the Assyrian genocide, which occurred at the onset of the First World War . Between 500,000 and 750,000 Assyrians were estimated to have been slaughtered by the armies of the Ottoman Empire and their Kurdish allies, totalling up to two-thirds of the entire population.

The Assyrians are considered to be one of the indigenous people in the Middle East traditionally from Iraq, south eastern Turkey, north western Iran and north eastern Syria. Since the Assyrian Genocide, many Assyrians have fled their homelands for a more safe and comfortable life in the West. Since the beginning of the 20th century, the Assyrian population in the Middle East has decreased dramatically. As of today there are more Assyrians in Europe, North America, and Australia than in their former homeland.

While the Egyptian government does not have a policy to persecute Christians, it discriminates against them and hampers their freedom of worship. Its agencies sporadically persecute Muslim converts to Christianity. The government enforces Hamayouni Decree restrictions on building or repairing churches. These same restrictions, however, do not apply to mosques. The government has effectively restricted Christians from senior government, diplomatic, military, and educational positions, and there has been increasing discrimination in the private sector. The government subsidizes media which attack Christianity and restricts Christians access to the state-controlled media.
In January 1999, anti-Christian violence erupted by local Muslims. "Tens of thousands died when Moslem gunmen terrorized Christians who had voted for independence in East Timor.

In Iran Muslim converts to Christianity (typically to Protestant Christianity) have been arrested and sometimes executed. In Iraq Assyrian Christians have been persecuted by both Shi’a and Sunni Muslim militias, Kurdish Nationalists, and also by criminal gangs. In 2004, five churches were destroyed by bombing. Tens of thousands of Christians fled the country. In Lebanon among the earliest was the Damour Massacre in 1976 when Palestinian militias attacked Christian civilians. According to an eyewitness: The attack took place from the mountain behind "It was an apocalypse," [said Father Mansour Labaky, a Christian Maronite priest who survived the massacre at Damour:] 'They were coming, thousands and thousands, shouting "Allahu Akbar! (God is great!) Let us attack them for the Arabs, let us offer a holocaust to Mohammad!", And they were slaughtering everyone in their path, men, women and children. Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state that practices Wahhabism and restricts all other religions, including the possession of religious items such as the Bible, crucifixes, and Stars of David.Christians are arrested and lashed in public for practicing their faith openly. In Sudan, it is estimated that over 1.5 million Christians have been killed by the supporter of APC, the Arab Muslim militia, and even suspected Islamists in northern Sudan since 1984. In modern Turkey, the Istanbul pogrom was a state-sponsored and state-orchestrated pogrom that compelled Greek Christians to leave Istanbul, the first Christian city

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians

Jews

Traditionally Jews living in Muslim lands, known as dhimmis, were allowed to practice their religion and to administer their internal affairs but subject to certain conditions.[8] They had to pay the jizya (a per capita tax imposed on free adult non-Muslim males) to Muslims.[9] Dhimmis had an inferior status under Islamic rule. They had several social and legal disabilities such as prohibitions against bearing arms or giving testimony in courts in cases involving Muslims.
In Moorish Spain, ibn Hazm and Abu Ishaq focused their anti-Jewish writings on the latter allegation. This was also the chief motivation behind the 1066 Granada massacre, when "[m]ore than 1,500 Jewish families, numbering 4,000 persons, fell in one day", and in Fez in 1033, when 6,000 Jews were killed.[12] There were further massacres in Fez in 1276 and 1465.

The tensions of the Arab-Israeli conflict were also a factor in the rise of animosity to Jews all over the Middle East, as hundreds of thousands of Jews fled as refugees, the main waves being soon after the 1948 and 1956 wars. In reaction to the Suez Crisis of 1956, the Egyptian government expelled almost 25,000 Egyptian Jews and confiscated their property, and sent approximately 1,000 more Jews to prisons and detention camps. The population of Jewish communities of Muslim Middle East and North Africa was reduced from about 900,000 in 1948 to less than 8,000 today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jews

Ahmadis

The Ahmadis are active translators of the Qur'an and proselytizers for the faith; converts to Islam in many parts of the world first discover Islam through the Ahmadis. However, in many Islamic countries the Ahmadis have been defined as heretics and non-Muslim and subjected to persecution and often systematic oppression.

With 4 million Ahmadis[3] in Pakistan, persecution of Ahmadis has been particularly severe and systematic in Pakistan, which is the only state to have officially declared the Ahmadis to be non-Muslims.[4] Here they are prohibited by law from self-identifying as Muslims, and their freedom of religion has been curtailed by a series of ordinances, acts and constitutional amendments. In 1953 at the instigation of religious parties, anti-Ahmadiyya riots erupted in Pakistan, killing scores of Ahmadi Muslims and destroying their properties. There were severe agitations against the Ahmadis in which street protests were held, political rallies were carried out, and inflammatory articles were published. These agitations led to 2,000 Ahmadi deaths. On 7 September 2011, the mainstream urdu newspaper Daily Jang published a special edition against Ahmadis.[28]
Throughout the year, Ahmadi students and teachers in the Pakistan's Punjab province have been systematically persecuted by schools and universities. The harassment has included social boycott, expulsions, threats and violence by students, teachers and principals of the Muslim majority sect

In Bangladesh, Ahmadis have been targeted by various protests and acts of violence, and fundamentalist Islamic groups have demanded that Ahmadis be officially declared kafirs (infidels).[32] Some adherents of Ahmadiyya have been subject to “house arrest” and several have been killed. In late 2003 several large, violent marches, led by Moulana Moahmud Hossain Mumtazi, were directed to occupy an Ahmadi mosque. In 2004, all Ahmadiyya publications were banned

In 2008, many Muslims in Indonesia protested against the Ahmadiyya movement. With violence and large demonstrations, these religious conservatives put pressure on the government to monitor, and harass the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in Indonesia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Ahmadis

For more

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_minority_Muslim_groups

@brentkruge

do you know that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah are both Shia? so why did the OP post their pictures alongside an infamous face from boko haram and bin laden?

for the bahais in Iran,there are political reasons they are banned in Iran.their relations with Israel is unwelcomed by the iranian authorities.like i keep saying,everyone is free to believe as he pleases and worship within his private walls whom he pleases.the problem happens when politics come into play and people want to use their religious image or identity for political gains or scoring points.otherwise,only those who are persecuted in their places of worship or in their houses plainly for praying as they wish should be seen as victims of religious persecution.other than that no one really knows what you believe in your heart.

as for the attacks in pakistan against the Shia,it is wahhabism again at play and saudi petro-dollars for terrorist groups and takfiris.

@ op, u sound like one of those fed drunk by the mainstream media. You probably are not aware of

-chechnya and russia

-India and the kashmirs

-china and the Uyghurs.



of course the above are under reported since, they do not help propagate islamophobia. Nigerian christians, stop acting like puppets. Open your ears, eyes, and allow your brains for in the end,it is each to his own.

LagosShia:

@brentkruge

do you know that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah are both Shia? so why did the OP post their pictures alongside an infamous face from boko haram and bin laden?

I agree with you. I dont understand what the OP intended with the pictures.

for the bahais in Iran,there are political reasons they are banned in Iran.their relations with Israel is unwelcomed by the Iranian authorities.like i keep saying,everyone is free to believe as he pleases and worship within his private walls whom he pleases.the problem happens when politics come into play and people want to use their religious image or identity for political gains or scoring points.otherwise,only those who are persecuted in their places of worship or in their houses plainly for praying as they wish should be seen as victims of religious persecution.other than that no one really knows what you believe in your heart.

I disagree with you.

The Bahais were driven to set up camp in Israel by the Iranians themselves in the first place. Persecution is persecution. Let EACH Bahai be punished for any proven crime (if that is Iranian law), but to deny Bahais education, welfare and justice BECAUSE they are Bahai's and have headquarters in Israel is VERY WRONG. Aren't there Arab/Muslim Israelis? Why are Jews in Iran treated BETTER than Bahai's when logically they are more likely to sabotage Iran?

Is just like what you have been saying that terrorist behavior of a few should not be used to judge Muslims.  Its the same here.

as for the attacks in pakistan against the Shia,it is wahhabism again at play and saudi petro-dollars for terrorist groups and takfiris.

I agree with you that the Shia in Pakistan are an endangered people like other minority religions in that country

deols:

@ op, u sound like one of those fed drunk by the mainstream media. You probably are not aware of

-chechnya and russia

-India and the kashmirs

-china and the Uyghurs.

Nobody is denying these others. But the topic under consideration is clear and specific. Why not open a thread and discuss Chechnya, Kashmir or Uyghurs yourself?

Ile-Ife:

Most people must have observed that Muslim dominated countries systematically discriminate against minorities in such countries. the government in most of these countries even sponsor terrorist groups in other countries and they also arm militant and paramilitary groups within their own country to perpetuate racial hatred and cause fear among the non-muslims. These groups enjoy subtle and blatant support among fellow muslims. As a non-muslim, that has good job or business, steady income and a "perfect comfortable life". How do you protect and defend your believe and freedom? do employ the islamic tactic or you just wait till you are consumed? As we all know if don't bother them they will bother because they believe they occupy the moral high ground.What do you do, these groups are committed to this cause 24/7 of their lives.

OP, did you post this topic in this section or did one of the moderators move it here? My reason for asking this question is simple: if you have made-up your mind about what you think the generality of Muslims are and what we do. Of what use is whatever we say to you here?

brentkruge:


The Bahais were driven to set up camp in Israel by the Iranians themselves in the first place. Persecution is persecution. Let EACH Bahai be punished for any proven crime (if that is Iranian law), but to deny Bahais education, welfare and justice BECAUSE they are Bahai's and have headquarters in Israel is VERY WRONG. Aren't there Arab/Muslim Israelis? Why are Jews in Iran treated BETTER than Bahai's when logically they are more likely to sabotage Iran?

Is just like what you have been saying that terrorist behavior of a few should not be used to judge Muslims.  Its the same here.

so when did the "descrimination" against Bahais in Iran took effect? can you remind us? and why exactly?

in the case of the Bahais it is quite different from the Muslim generality.the bahais have a central leadership that tells its adherents what to do and what not to do.it is just like the Jehovah's witnesses (in christianity) with the Watch Tower as its governing body and in leadership role.no Jehovah's witness is a Jehovah's witness if they disagree or go again the smallest word of the watch tower organization in brooklyn.the watch tower organization ins brooklyn is "God's organization" to Jehovah's witnesses and it is a "prophetic body" on earth.

so likewise,with the administrative center of the bahais centered in Haifa, Israel,the adherents have to follow what their leadership say and the "fatwas" they issue.also as the saying goes,he who pays the piper dictates the tune.Israel isn't hosting the bahais because of israel's wonderful record in human rights and freedom of religion.after all the arab muslims who have israeli citizenship are discriminated against and treated badly.so why would israel want to offer support to another minority that is discriminated against if it does not suit its own project and plans? common sense!!!

as for the muslim generality,there is no single leadership position in the muslim world.there are collective roles taken by scholars and religious authorities but no single authority exists.for instance,opposing Bin Laden does not make me less a muslim.but if the Prophet Muhammad (sa) or the 12th Imam (ajtfs) were present today and they back Bin Laden,then directly all muslims must support bin laden.but nothing like that exists.afterall in the Quran itself those who obey the Prophet (sa) and those "entrusted with authority" (i.e. the 12 Imams (a.s.) are obeying God.the Quran puts the obedience to the Prophet (sa) and the "Ulil-Amr" parallel with obdience to God's authority because those men are viewed as divinely chosen and inspired who cannot go contrary to God's command to disobey Him.therefore God is ordering us to follow those who would not mislead us and this verse alone by default tells us that the men who represent God on earth Islamically are infallible or spiritually guided against sin and error.

Holy Quran 4:59
"O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end".

brentkruge:

Nobody is denying these others. But the topic under consideration is clear and specific. Why not open a thread and discuss Chechnya, Kashmir or Uyghurs yourself?

Since you are interested in discrimination, you should be fair minded enough to open that thread
Afterall discrimination is discrimination, no matter who practises it. If one bothers you, all should
And please include the burning of "herectics" by the christians for religious purposes in that new thread
The treatment of muslims and jews in the hands of Prince Ferdinand of Aragon and Princess Isabella of Castile should also not be left out