From the BBC formation chart, which is corroborated by Ass football chart, there can't be a player in the hole in a 4-3-3. Same as 4-5-1.

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(4-3-3), (4-5-1), (4-4-2), (4-4-1-1) and (4-2-3-1) are all closely rated. The major thing distinguishing 4-2-3-1 and 4-4-1-1 from the rest is that there is a playmaker- hole.

According to association football, 4-4-1-1 and 4-2-2 can easily be confused.

'Interpretations of 4–4–1–1 can be slightly muddled, as some might say that the extent to which a forward has dropped off and separated himself from the other can be debated. The system was most prominently used during the 2009-10 season by Fulham F.C, with midfielder Zoltan Gera playing behind forward Bobby Zamora as they upset many teams across Europe on their way to the 2010 UEFA Europa League Final.'
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4-3-3 and 4-5-1 are closely related.

It was rumoured earlier today that bitter rivals
Manchester City were closing on Falcao but United
boss Louis van Gaal looks likely to complete the
sensational deal. (6 mins ago)
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/397410/Man-Utd-set-to-complete-MEGA-51m-deal-for-Arsenal-and-City-target-Radamel-Falcao

BBC:
This formation is quite an attacking one.

The 4-3-3 system - that is four defenders, three midfielders and three attackers - allows you to have three attackers while still having a strong midfield. The three midfielders will normally play quite closely together to give protection to the defence and so they cannot be passed around by the opposition. The three strikers will split across the pitch to provide width to the attack.

Usually you would have a central attacker with one each side of him.

The 4-3-3 does not actually differ that much from the 4-5-1 formation. Former England coach. Barcelona play with this system with Samuel Eto'o, Ronaldinho and Ludovic Giuly. Very few teams actually start with this line-up as you need to have specialist attackers. But if a manager needs a goal late on in a game then he may opt to move to three up front.


BBC:
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BBC:4-5-1

Traditionally favoured by European teams, the 4-5-1 formation is becoming ever more popular in the Premiership.
The 4-5-1 - that is four defenders, five midfielders and one striker - is often seen in European games where teams face a tough away fixture and the manager chooses to pack the midfield.

It can be very effective, particularly at keeping possession, and with five midfielders covering the defence it provides a solid base.
Sometimes you will see 10 men behind the ball. But it also means that attacking options are limited.The poor old striker often has a lone battle up front. It works best with a big, strong front man, such as Chelsea's Didier Drogba, who can win the ball in the air and hold it up until support arrives.

Otherwise it can produce relatively few goal-scoring chances.
This system has a lot in common with the 4-3-3 formation, where the wide midfielders join the lone striker.
Jose Mourinho used this particularly well during his (first) time at Chelsea.
Put simply, they play 4-3-3 when they have the ball and 4-5-1 when they do not.

BBC

Reports: Manchester United agree £51m deal for
Monaco striker Radamel Falcao
http://www.squawka.com/news/reports-manchester-united-agree-51m-deal-for-monaco-striker-radamel-falcao/169275
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Hmmmmm

Why are Manchester United signing another striker and neglecting Arturo Vidal? I think there's cash to burn baby. Enough of all those Chelsi & Man Citi fans bragging about how rich their clubs are

Play by play it seems this Falcao thing is becoming real o

Who'll take our #9 shirt? I thought the official twitter acct said vacant numbers will be occupied by new signings?

FALCAO pls!!!

elampiro:

Take a look at Rooney's position vs Liverpool. Rooney was in the hole, but because of the fact that United came under pressure, Rooney appeared to be a midfielder. Same with Mata against Stoke in the Carling cup.

The second chart showed A real 4-3-3 when United played City. We started with a clear 4-3-3.

it's the kinda player that plays in that tip of the triangle that determines if it's 4-2-3-1 or 3-3. rosicky is not a "number 10" so that ends that your line of argument. that's 4-3-3. in the other examples you have shown, rooney, silva, etc are all number 10s.

MrTA: Hmmm, not dure i believe this falcao nonsense.
Anyways happy new month to y'all and happy transfer deadline day too!

there's some truth to it - RVP needs knee surgery & we cannot even rely on rooney of these days to pull any trees. did you hear what scholes said about him on BT sports?

Scholes on BTsport on saturday:
"Kagawa needed a 10 game run to show what he can do. Never given a chance, yet Rooney had 10 years."

that's the bias in the english media scholes has exposed. rooney can go 80% of the season with shyte performance and the media will back him up that he needs time to get rid of his rustiness. they would blame the weather, his cigarettes, his newborn baby, etc on his form.

whereas, players like nani, cleverley, mata, fellaini, kagawa, anderson, etc are expected to perform within 2-3 games regardless of their own issues otherwise they are not good enough for the red shirt.


if RVP really needs to sort his knee problems, then we need a striker of falcao's calibre. he's told monaco he's leaving. monaco are also ready to sell according to guillem balagué.

i also heard through the grapevine that van gaal was in italy on saturday night to personally watch arturo vidal's game to assess his knee.

this is going to be the longest day ever.

capricornian: Play by play it seems this Falcao thing is becoming real o

Confirmed - €65 million

Sky sport!

capricornian: Play by play it seems this Falcao thing is becoming real o

E be like sey na true oooo
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/transfers/more-colombian-journalists-corroborate-that-man-united-will-sign-radamel-falcao-for-e65m/
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http://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2014/9/1/6092345/radamel-falcao-manchester-united-monaco-transfer-rumours-news

r231:

Confirmed - €65 million

Sky sport!

Link jare ... Are u for real? Gimme link

And with no last-minute hitches anticipated, Mata has taken to Twitter to announce his delight at United's new arrival.
"One Hour Behind: Welcome Di Maria & Blind," Mata tweeted.

The Spain star added in his blog: "As you read this,
many things are happening before the transfer window
expires today.

Juan Mata's blog..

JayKayMaybachz: Link jare ... Are u for real? Gimme link

it's on skysports - i am watching it on my phone now as we speak. however, until he touches down in manchester, it might be a hoax!

@MufcDevilUpdate: BREAKING: Manchester United have agreed a loan deal with Monaco for Falcao, subject to medical and personal terms. #MUFC #MANUTD

ChristineC: Why are Manchester United signing another striker and neglecting Arturo Vidal? I think there's cash to burn baby. Enough of all those Chelsi & Man Citi fans bragging about how rich their clubs are

On point!

ChristineC: Why are Manchester United signing another striker and neglecting Arturo Vidal? I think there's cash to burn baby. Enough of all those Chelsi & Man Citi fans bragging about how rich their clubs are

Van Gaal hasnt given up on Vidal yet

elampiro: RVP needing a knee surgery may have prompted the move for Falcao.

If Falcao comes to Man United, then one of Rooney and RVP will have to leave to some where they can retire in peace.

Quick question, when did RVP pick up this Knee injury, against Burnley ?
I hope this falcao story isn't true
We don't have a quality DM and we are blowing all this Money on a Striker who probably won't be serviced properly.
Are this People signing with sense ? Make them look Chelsea na I don't think their is any weakness in that Squad.

@SkySportsNewsHQ: BREAKING NEWS: @GuillemBalague is reporting that #Falcao has signed for Manchester United for €65m. More as we get it. #SkyDeadlineDay

JayKayMaybachz: Link jare ... Are u for real? Gimme link

Which kain link........I dey in front of TV

Mark Ogden of telegraph(the most reliable british source) has announced the falcao deal
This guy is never wrong!!
It's a loan deal with the option to buy

coogar:

it's the kinda player that plays in that tip of the triangle that determines if it's 4-2-3-1 or 3-3. rosicky is not a "number 10" so that ends that your line of argument. that's 4-3-3. in the other examples you have shown, rooney, silva, etc are all number 10s.

So when Rooney is played in the midfield, you will still count him as a striker? Players are adapted where the natural players arent available. RVP is a natural winger but he was gradually converted by Wenger. RVP himself said he was scared when he was told to try that position.

Or you may say Kagawa was in the hole even when SAF used him in the wing? Januzaj, Giggs have played in the hole for us.

As long as their is a playmaker, it's not a 4-3-3.

It's a loan deal.......

And he is on the plane alrdy

Falcao signs for United and now following A.Herrera on twitter..

*BREAKING NEWS*
Manchester United have signed Falcao on loan from Monaco subject to a medical. He will arrive by private jet this afternoon.

I saw that on a facebook corner....

Bookies suspend betting for Radamel Falcao to Man Utd..

r231: Which kain link........I dey in front of TV

@GuillemBalague: So a deal done for Falcao to United says my colleague @matallanas but it seems it is a loan deal. All pending medical of course

balagué has confirmed it!

woodward, you are forgiven!

if we can get vidal now, we are very safe!!!

I guess this means RvP gets tossed aside?

O boy, I no dey hear waetin lecturer dey talk again o .

So Man United can now hijack a deal in the last minute from other big spenders? Now we have arrived completely.


The results will come with time.

PietroRico: O boy, I no dey hear waetin lecturer dey talk again o .

u better concentrate and stop thinking Falcao,lol

coogar: @GuillemBalague: So a deal done for Falcao to United says my colleague @matallanas but it seems it is a loan deal. All pending medical of course

balagué has confirmed it!

woodward, you are forgiven!

if we can get vidal now, we are very safe!!!

I think we need an experienced defender also, Vlaar would be OK!