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Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by jamace(m): 9:00pm On Feb 18, 2012
90% is too small. To be qualified to be a police you must have at least an OND. bleep those illiterate policemen.


Do you think education is the problem with the police? If yes, why have our leaders who have Bsc, Msc and even Phd not made positive impact in leadership of this country? In fact, it seems to me that in Nigeria, the higher the qualification the more the looting ability.

What is wrong with the police is the reflection of the society. I believe no reform will change the police without first changing the society. Can a pig give birth to a zebra?
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Nobody: 9:04pm On Feb 18, 2012
Beaf:

Fresh Air!
Lets sack 90% of the lot. cool
kutchs:

Abegii make una go sidon smewia, all of una dey hia dey yab police make pple sey una holy pass. If dem sack all d police 4 naija, na hu go kme replace dem, no be me and una wey even worse pass. The poblem with Nigerian is nt d police bt Nigerians demselves. The police is only a subset of a whole-corrupt Nigeria. A security agency is as gud or bad as the country it serves, we cant have an efficient police system in a country like ours wia evri one is corrupt nd is making no attempts to change.
DRANOEL:

sack all of them and replace them with the following. . .NIGER DELTA STYLE!

ig . . . .asari dokubo
dig . . . .ateke tom
dig . . . .tompolo
dig . . . .boyloaf
dig . . . .henry okah
dig . . . .alams

chairman police service comm. . .e.k clark

rank and file. . . . .rehabilitated militants


The Niger deltans militants will police Nigeria just like they are policing the oil pipelines !
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by seenoevil1: 9:08pm On Feb 18, 2012
kutchs:

Abegii make una go sidon smewia, all of una dey hia dey yab police make pple sey una holy pass. If dem sack all d police 4 naija, na hu go kme replace dem, no be me and una wey even worse pass. The poblem with Nigerian is nt d police bt Nigerians demselves. The police is only a subset of a whole-corrupt Nigeria. A security agency is as gud or bad as the country it serves, we cant have an efficient police system in a country like ours wia evri one is corrupt nd is making no attempts to change.

100% BS . So the average Nigerian should be blamed for the actions of the police ?
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Nobody: 9:27pm On Feb 18, 2012
There are always major shake-ups but little reforms.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Pukkah: 9:48pm On Feb 18, 2012
Whichever government that is able to truly reform and transform the rotten and inept Nigeria Police will write its name in gold and win eternal admiration of Nigerians.

I wish the government well in this arduous and herculean task. It is long overdue. We are waiting and watching to see that this is not a mere half-hearted promise.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Gwazah(m): 9:51pm On Feb 18, 2012
There is no illitrate Policeman, every police officer was screened be4 recruiting into de force, de issue of corruption is in de blood of every nigerian right at de family stage, if any1 wnt TB Joshua 2 deliver a police man shud 1st send de prophet 2 start delivering every nigerian family then we shall be releive. He who hate police is a criminal dats de truth. De more u cry de more police work, dats one gud tin. Pls NPF KEEP ON. He who don't lik shud migrate 2 a country were police are cooking eggs 4 public instead of workin on criminals
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Gwazah(m): 9:53pm On Feb 18, 2012
There is no illitrate Policeman, every police officer was screened be4 recruiting into de force, de issue of corruption is in de blood of every nigerian right at de family stage, if any1 wnt TB Joshua 2 deliver a police man shud 1st send de prophet 2 start delivering every nigerian family then we shall be releive. He who hate police is a criminal dats de truth. De more u cry de more police work, dats one gud tin. Pls NPF KEEP ON. He who don't lik shud migrate 2 a country were police are cooking eggs 4 public instead of workin on criminals
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by kcemeto(m): 10:55pm On Feb 18, 2012
if u wanna define corruption, jst write Nigerian Police. Shekina. Am out.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by jamace(m): 11:25pm On Feb 18, 2012
if u wanna define corruption, jst write Nigerian Police. Shekina. Am out.

If you say this about the police what will you call the cabal in  the oil industry collecting fuel subsidy without delivering anything? Or govs who collect money on behalf of you and me and loot the money for themselves? Or judges who collect GMG filled with money and turn cases upside down? Or legislators who collect constituency development fund and failed to develop anything? Abeg, the list pass my power.

Tell your thieving and looting leaders to change their ways and Nigeria police will change.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by kizito96(m): 11:29pm On Feb 18, 2012
I think it is long over due
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by logica(m): 12:15am On Feb 19, 2012
Gwazah:

There is no illitrate Policeman, every police officer was screened be4 recruiting into de force
LMAO. In Nigeria eh? Continue in your delusion. Lie to yourself long enough and you'll start believing.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by samguru(m): 12:34am On Feb 19, 2012
Pegging the police entry level at OND is not the issue but the main issue is attitudinal change from police to harmless and powerless citizens,I mean extra judicial killing,illegal raiding,bribing okok so on.
God bless Nigeria!
Eko o onibaje!
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by bigdoo: 12:54am On Feb 19, 2012
I hate the Nigerian Police.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Kobojunkie: 1:21am On Feb 19, 2012
WOW . . . .[b] it seems every quarter we get news of some form of shakeup /reform of the same Police Force. [/b]If the government is not setting up one task force/committee or another, na something else to reform the same police force.

Na some months ago dem tell us say Germany wan help us fix our police. Later dem bring America name put for the same list. Even israel name commot for the list. Now dem dey reform the police force again. Yet in all that time, we never see one ounce of change from this very force. O ga o!!!!  After the billion billion wey dem done spend sef na the same police men  we still get. Which one be this?

Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by jamace(m): 6:02am On Feb 19, 2012
^^^LWKMD grin. You will never see any change in the police unless the society as a whole changes. A pig can never give birth to a Zebra.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Nobody: 6:22am On Feb 19, 2012
oya gej put police on a 7 point agenda and declare a national emergency in the police force

meanwhile the men in black's toll gates are still in full force. . .
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by doofanc: 7:23am On Feb 19, 2012
Major shakeup ko minor shakedown ni :-/
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by igbonla(m): 7:56am On Feb 19, 2012
biachwest:
Nigeria government should consider reforming the various security agencies. Employ our graduates to the various department of our security agencies
. computer science graduate could be employed at the Florence department,lawyers ,engineers,doctors,- name it. They all have a place.
I was travelling from Lagos via road to Ghana and i decided to travel with ABC bus transport.Meanwhile i was suppose to board my flight back to Sweden from Ghana.
When we arrive to Fluid boarder.One immigration officer asked our driver to bring me because he saw 20 thousand Eur stamp on my passort.offcourse i did change that money in Lagos few days before my trip and transfer ed the money to my foreign a/c.
I presented myself to this officer, and he asked for my destination, and i replied that i was heading to Sweden.
He fatherly asked for my visa to Sweden.I brought out my Swedish and Spanish permanent residents, which is an id card, he took a look at them and started laughing
To my surprise. he asked me, if i want him to believe me,
that i will board a flight from Ghana and arrive Europe with this Id card. and i will be allowed entry to Europe with an id card instead of visa.
That is a disgrace to our nation.
Those kind of officers should be replaced with graduates from political science or other related qualified professionals.

It is not about paper qualifications but training, you should ask what kind of training the guy has received since he joined. A political science graduate without necessary training will be worse.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by jamace(m): 8:22am On Feb 19, 2012
It is not about paper qualifications but training, you should ask what kind of training the guy has received since he joined. A political science graduate without necessary training will be worse.
That is the hard fact. Paper qualification is not Nigeria's problem, afterall, our so-call educated political leaders use grammar to wriggle out of corruption allegations.

If I must be blunt here, all of us typing police is this, police is that, on this Honourable Forum, are potential looters. If given the chance we will be worse than the police. Example is our present  political leaders; while a no body, they shouted loudest about corruption in the land; but today, there are in the saddle and corruption is getting more patronage. Why?

We, Nigerians, need attidunal change, ethical re-orientation and national rebirth for the country to progress. As things stand now, no reform of any one segment of society will create positive effect.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Tadeus(m): 8:27am On Feb 19, 2012
Nigerian Police are the real criminals, Government needs to do something about it fast
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Funkymallam(m): 8:40am On Feb 19, 2012
jamace:

That is the hard fact. Paper qualification is not Nigeria's problem, afterall, our so-call educated political leaders use grammar to wriggle out of corruption allegations.

If I must be blunt here, all of us typing police is this, police is that, on this Honourable Forum, are potential looters. If given the chance we will be worse than the police. Example is our present  political leaders; while a no body, they shouted loudest about corruption in the land; but today, there are in the saddle and corruption is getting more patronage. Why?

We, Nigerians, need attidunal change, ethical re-orientation and national rebirth for the country to progress. As things stand now, no reform of any one segment of society will create positive effect.

U just said it all. #potential looters only waiting for an opportunity#
Ask d ACN lawmakers, we tot they would stand against d bumper pay initiated by d pdp goons but nah, they v joined to collect d national cake.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Funkymallam(m): 8:40am On Feb 19, 2012
jamace:

That is the hard fact. Paper qualification is not Nigeria's problem, afterall, our so-call educated political leaders use grammar to wriggle out of corruption allegations.

If I must be blunt here, all of us typing police is this, police is that, on this Honourable Forum, are potential looters. If given the chance we will be worse than the police. Example is our present  political leaders; while a no body, they shouted loudest about corruption in the land; but today, there are in the saddle and corruption is getting more patronage. Why?

We, Nigerians, need attidunal change, ethical re-orientation and national rebirth for the country to progress. As things stand now, no reform of any one segment of society will create positive effect.

U just said it all. #potential looters only waiting for an opportunity#
Ask d ACN lawmakers, we tot they would stand against d bumper pay initiated by d pdp goons but nah, they v joined to collect d national cake.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Thatdave(m): 10:23am On Feb 19, 2012
i trust that GEJ will whip those guys b4 2015.
Let him whip the security issue first!
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by rawtruth(m): 11:00am On Feb 19, 2012
Does anyone ever wonders why the Nigeria police performs well in international missions and has retained their high rating on the UN performance chart? Why can't they do well in their own country? some analyses of successive military regimes and Nigerians militant attitude towards law enforcement agents could provide clues to the palpable failure of the Nigeria police (in their own country).
   During the Buhari/Idiagbon coup, police officers guarding president Shehu Shagari successfully subdued the army officers who were sent to "arrest" the president. They moved the president out of the presidential palace(Aguda House). Some military officers lost their lives in that episode. Shortly after that Idiagbon, may his soul rest in peace, supervised the demoblisation of the Mobile Police Force. The police were gradually reduced from an independent organisation to mere uniform carriers. Military officers of lower ranks took pleasure in embarrassing senior police officers publicly to assert their superiority. Route-lining for visiting heads of state became their major functions.The military also took over most of the functions of the police and denied them access to modern facilities that would have kept them at pace with changing realities.
Also, some police officers, perhaps coping their military 'Ogas' dumped civility for harshness towards their subordinates which often resulted to confusion in attempt to carry out 'orders'. Individuals like Parry Osayande, who has entrusted with the duty of reforming the police, were nick-named 'Otapiapia' by their juniors. Locking-up rank and file officers for no good reasons became their cherished habits. They destroyed the psyche of the police, leaving them confused and irrational when responding to security challenges. corruption, a general disease in Nigeria, has its own impact. These are but few of the causes of the rot in the police. One can also guess what impact the recruitment process, often influenced by politicians in favour of former party thugs, has on the character of the police.
   Those of you on this forum who were adults during the Shagari govt when Sunday Adewusi was the IGP could tell if the police of that time were the caricature of inefficiency we are seeing today. The police need a more holistic reform.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Tadeus(m): 8:07am On Feb 20, 2012
There are some animals in NPF and sometin need to be done fast to flush dem out of the system
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by jamace(m): 9:16am On Feb 20, 2012
There are some animals in NPF and sometin need to be done fast to flush dem out of the system


And you think the biggest animals are not in govt? See how govt is playing politics with our lives by freeing boko haram gun supplier caught red-handed by security forces.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-874737.0.html

With the above, how do you expect any right thinking security personnel to risk his life for this god foresaken country? angry
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by logica(m): 9:30am On Feb 20, 2012
rawtruth:

Blah blah blah . . .
   Those of you on this forum who were adults during the Shagari govt when Sunday Adewusi was the IGP could tell if the police of that time were the caricature of inefficiency we are seeing today. The police need a more holistic reform.
Please, which year was Dele Udoh murdered by a policeman?
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Nobody: 10:07am On Feb 20, 2012
jamace:



Do you think education is the problem with the police? If yes, why have our leaders who have Bsc, Msc and even Phd not made positive impact in leadership of this country? In fact, it seems to me that in Nigeria, the higher the qualification the more the looting ability.

What is wrong with the police is the reflection of the society. I believe no reform will change the police without first changing the society. Can a pig give birth to a zebra?

You've hit the nail squarely on its head.

To those arguing a case for graduate police officers; I say show me where in the world a bachelor's degree is considered minimum requirement.
Have you even considered what policing is actually about?
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by rawtruth(m): 10:23am On Feb 20, 2012
@logica;
            , And how many of such cases then, compared to similar incidents thereafter? The history of the police in this country has been that of an organisation perpetually under the influence of the military which never allowed it to be fully developed into a civilised and modern crime fighting out-fit. Even the Shagari/Adewusi era lasted for just 4 years, but within that period there was a process already on the way to repositioning the police, which was cut short again in 1984. The police are not aliens from the outer space, they are here, and are influenced by our erratic behavioural norms. Any useful reform must be holistically initiated.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by logica(m): 10:31am On Feb 20, 2012
Please. My uncle and his friend were beaten up and framed as armed robbers by policemen in that period as well. They were lucky they were not murdered. The Nigeria Police Force was never a respectable entity. And the reason is simply because they are same Police Force setup by the British for suppression and oppression. They have maintained that purpose through time.
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by Nobody: 10:32am On Feb 20, 2012
“There are only 200 working Psychiatrists in Nigeria, a majority of them working in high class specialist hospitals while the few available nurses work at a rate of 1 nurse per 25,000 patients,” he told National Mirror
-- http://nationalmirroronline.net/health/wellness/22661.html

According to the state Commissioner for Health, Dr Jide Idris, about 2.5 million Lagos residents have been found to be suffering from one form of mental illness or the other.
He said this at a news conference to kick start the World Mental Health Day on Tuesday, which has as its theme, “the great push, invest in mental health.”
According to him, recent studies conducted by the ministry in Lagos shows that an average of 14.1 per cent of the total population of the state suffer from one form of mental illness or another.

In view of the above, is it any wonder we have such a high rate of mental disorder in our society?
Would our interest not be better served if paid closer attention to the psychological profile rather than academic qualifications of those being admitted to our security agencies?


USA
The minimum prerequisites for police officers include the following:
Be a United States citizen
Be at least 21 years of age
Have a high school diploma or equivalent education
Possess a valid driver's license
Have no prior convictions

United Kingdom (English or Welsh)
The basic criteria required for application is:
Aged between 18 ½ years and 55 years (age limit can vary depending on the force)
A British, Irish or a Commonwealth citizen (whose stay in this country is not subject to restriction)
Of good character
Physically fit and healthy
A full driving licence (or in the process of learning)

Ghana
DSP Arthur explained that the requirements of the Police include the following: a Ghanaian who must be between the ages of 18 and 25 years and must be of height - 5.4 inches for women and 5.8 inches for men. The person must have gone through formal education, possesses at least four credits including English in addition to a credit or a pass in mathematics in SSSCE/WASCE. But for professionals, the age limit for entry is 35 years
.

South Africa
Good communication skills is required, the ability to act decisively and without hesitation; a calm and even-tempered nature; integrity; physical fitness; emotional and mental stability
An applicant who wishes to serve in the South African Police Service as a police official should meet the following criteria:

Grade 12 (St 10) is the minimum qualification, be at least 18 and under 30 years of age, be in possession of a valid driver’s licence, have not been found guilty of a criminal offence and meet the minimum requirement set out in the post profile of a trainee (psychological, physical and medical assessment).

Successful candidates will be appointed on contract (sign a Memorandum of Agreement) for a minimum of two years. Training will be over a period of two years, during which the trainee will undergo basic training of six months, field training of another six months after which the trainee will be posted to police stations where they will receive practical training in policing for a further 12 months.

Botswana
1. Citizen of Botswana
2. Aged between 18 - 30 years.
3. Having passed BGCSE with a Credit in English Language and minimum overall of 30 points
4. Having good character
5. Without any criminal record
6. Physically and mentally fit (confirmed by a Government Medical Doctor)
Re: Major Shakeup Looms In Police Force by rawtruth(m): 11:08am On Feb 20, 2012
@logica;
Who maintained the same system used by the British? When did the British leave? What many are saying is that NIGERIA is not yet ready to have a civilised and disciplined police. The police are products of the same society whose youths snatch election materials or thumb-print for dubious politicians. Some of these thugs are in the police, those still out there constitute the lawless crowd who take advantage of peaceful protests to steal, destroy, maim, and even kill. I just read of the fighting in Lagos Island, if it's true, let two or three policemen get near the area and the next news could be that 'police short dead two unarmed youths'. Whatever the 'killer policemen' may have to say would naturally be dismissed as lies. We have a battered and confused police that have become erratic under successive failed-leadership, and an edgy public. Under such circumstances law enforcement agents, who are products of the same circumstances, become scapegoats. Nigerians must admit their collective failure in order to have a mindset for sober reflection and reformation.

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