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Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Dede1(m): 10:21pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
Okija_juju: I shall not want to make you more educated than you have shown. In military parlance, tactical withdrawal is designed to let your opponent/enemy kept wondering what your next line of action will be. It is unfortunate that a directly or indirectly Igbo chap, whose mother would have been ra.ped to death by Nigerian vandals if Ojukwu was confirmed dead at January 10, 1970, has the audacious pedigree to join detractors to denigrate the personality of Ojukwu. I would like to know the characters of so-called Biafran survivors you referenced in your idiotic drivel that proved Ojukwu starved the civilians. The distribution of foods donated by Red Cross and Charitas was handled by the Reverend fathers and sisters attached to the aforementioned organizations. You often write like a deluded lapper who has not seen a parade ground in his/her life talk less of being on it. So I should not ask you to elaborate on northerners who constituted the bulk of the army’s junior rank officers. Definitely, I do not have empathy for you as to indulge in your education. So as a first grade Efulefu, I shall leave you with the little you know about pogrom. I am at home with the fact Biafra still puzzles and infuses fear in peoples’ minds in all nooks and crannies of the jungle called Nigeria. Only people who are basically nobody in their kindred will refer to someone who they do not know from any possible depth as a commoner. You could kill if you worth my footprints within my autonomous community, olodo. You are yet to punch yourself in nuts, punk. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by lagcity(m): 10:21pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
ACM10: The most recent Kakanfo was Abiola. He didn't run away like Ojukwu even though he could have skipped to Benin Republic. He defiantly declared himself president and was arrested by Abacha. While in jail, Abacha wanted to release him only if he forgot about his mandate. Abiola's response? "Iku Ya Ju Esin Lo!" meaning death is better than dishonor! Now tell me if Ojukwu is worthy enough to wipe this Kakanfo's shoes! |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by ACM10: 10:24pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
lagcity: mu che che che che che I'm having fun tonight. These Yorubas can be funny |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by lagcity(m): 10:30pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
ACM10: Yes we can be very funny Oh Yeah, I remember another Kakanfo Samuel Ladoke Akintola who went out in a blaze of glory. He fought cowardly Ibo soldiers till death. u nyamiris can at least rejoice that u killed an Yoruba general. bravo! |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by yaribaman: 10:51pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
lagcity: no he was kicked to death |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by dayokanu(m): 11:41pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
^^ He could have dressed as a woman and run to Abidjan but he took his rifle and fought the Igbo soldiers till death Thats what a General does not crossdressing and fleeing warfront When Ojuku fled warfront, what did he expect would become of Biafra ppl he left behind? |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by LogicMind: 11:41pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
lagcity: He was crying profusely calling shango to save him. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Lasinoh: 11:45pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
Where is 'Part 2'? |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by dayokanu(m): 11:46pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
Shortly afterward, a detachment of soldiers led by Captain Emmanuel Nwobosi arrived at Akintola’s residence. Upon sighting the soldiers, [size=28pt]Akintola opened fire – lightly wounding a few of them including Capt Nwobosi. After bravely fighting for his life and engaging the soldiers in a gunfight, Akintola was shot dead by Nwobosi and his men[/size] http://www.kwenu.com/publications/siollun/1966_coup2.htm Accounts from a Igbo website Compare to this from a Biafra General When Biafra's military resistance collapsed, [size=28pt]Ojukwu fled to Côte d'Ivoire[/size]. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by yaribaman: 11:47pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
Logic Mind: shango was the first to run away |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by yaribaman: 11:48pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
the youba is no rival to ibo |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by obataala(m): 11:49pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
Ojukwu acted as his lineage is known 4,cheating!, y ? cos he carved out all the oil producing areas in2 d territory of d foiled Biafra,which was his motivation 4 dreaming of a republic, no other region knew wot is plans were including SW only gowon knew and saw the greater picture. The other minorities rejoiced even now over the foiled repulic-they had been cowed by bogus claim of self actualization,governance & prosperity;how did ojukwu thot he culd actually give wot was neva his,promising 2 give wot the minorities have 2 d minorities ?.how culd dat have been a promise 2 d minorities ?. not knowing he wanted to lord over us & subjugate us, if not y did he chose 2 go into hiding rather than lay his life down 4 wot he had faith in & be martyired ?. Has any1 heard of sergent Boro, Ken Saronwiwa, Col Adekunle, Emeka Ezeugo Kaduna etc. Ikweres neva bought his ideas so was a clog in his wheel,port-harcourt bcam is desideratum & went in2 bogus campaigns,is d reason they dissociates themselves 4rm d larger igbo & carved a separate ethnicity 4 themselves. Wot gowon saw is woz working against them in picking d top shot of presidency, & is clear 2 evri odas now. Awolowo neva did wot he neva wanted 2 do 2 d minorities, he tuk awo tym 2 read his plans. once decifered by d military he & all his allies bcam enemies of d state. Is enemy given water when thirsty or force a burning coal down his throat ?, hence d shreds. It ws even ojukwu against fed military govt of Nig, setting civilians against a system he knew how ruthless they are, sending them 2 their early graves. he ought 2 hv been outcaste & outlawed 4rm d eastern territories after d war or better stil stoned 2 death 4 shedding innocent lives 4 personal aggrandizement instead celebrated by d mofus & casting blames,pooh. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by yaribaman: 11:53pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
yoruba is more interested in licking aboki nyash hole a picture speaks volumes
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Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by dayokanu(m): 11:57pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
^^ Like this [size=28pt]2011: Ojukwu canvasses support for IBB[/size] THE Ikemba Nnewi, Chief Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, was yesterday, reported to be in support for the presidential ambition of former military leader, General Ibrahim Babangida, in 2011, saying he would support him http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/05/2011-ojukwu-canvasses-support-for-ibb/ |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by yaribaman: 11:59pm On Feb 29, 2012 |
check obj nyash first thers still some dried matozoa from the sultan inside sultan no dey turban for free |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by dayokanu(m): 12:03am On Mar 01, 2012 |
^^ Like this A businessman, Edmond Okoye has allegedly admitted Desecrating his two aides by Being Intimate with them through the anus. He has therefore signed an undertaking to compensate each aide with N1 million. The victims, Eji Emmanuel and http://www.247nigerianewsupdate.com/a-businessman-Desecrates-his-two-male-aides/ |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by OneNaira6: 5:24am On Mar 01, 2012 |
Why don't you educate us? Why not bring your knowledge about Ghana and let me bring mine ? You think it is just to brag on the net and allude vaguely to knowledge you don't have? I think the entire forum, by now, know I don't talk without first hand knowledge and facts to prove my case. I will start at the bottom with Chicken Republic a fast food chain now rapidly expanding in Ghana and employing many. It is present on Ghana's number 1 premier, most well known and most expensive highstreet i.e Oxford Street, Osu. Is that business not organised enough for you? I will give you more if you come and defend your claim thats others are ignorant about Ghana. Nigg@ please. What I said isn't from my own mouth but rather impression I've gotten after speaking to Ghanaians multiple times about Nigerians residing there. i was speaking of your everyday Nigerian (both Igbo, yoruba, hausa, etc) in Ghana, not business men whom thrived already in Nigeria and transferred such luck in Ghana. Mr.Biggs is doing big in Ghana as well (runned by Yoruba), followed by Business Week (runned by an Edo man), followed by Intercontinental Bank (runned by an Igbo man), etc. In other words, such people do not matter. In the words of Ghanaians, the citizens of the nation in question, Nigerians in Ghana (excluding the students) are running almost all of the criminal lifestyle in their nation. Name it from drug trafficking, to 419, to prositution to armed robbery, just name it, a nigerian in Ghana is involved in it one way or another Few months ago, a supposedly thriving Nigerian businessman was arrested for heroin trafficking in Ghana. About half of foreigners in Ghanaian jail are Nigerians. Dude, rather than chest -beating, it is best to ask the citizen of that nation and listen to their words. You for wonder why they keep repeating the same thing while Nigerians delude themselves into thinking otherwise. I laugh tire. Almost every Ghanaian I meet repeat the same thing, I for wonder why. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Yewe2011(m): 7:40am On Mar 01, 2012 |
I would first like to say that I am a Ghanaman so I am partial in any and everything that goes on in Nigerian politics. But I have to call out the inconsistency in the arguments of many Igbos, who claim that the Yorubas betrayed them during the Biafran war, yet at the same time claim that they are and always have been eternal enemies with them. Yorubas were never a part of Biafra and there was no alliance or consultation as to possible outcomes (as far as I'm concerned). Most importantly, I want to state that I believe it is the Yoruba and Igbo peoples who are largely responsible for the crisis Nigeria is in today. The superiority complexes displayed by both groups become nauseating after awhile. All I hear from are claims of Igbos being industrious and ingenious or Yorubas being cultured and educated. I don't either any of the other hundreds of Nigerian ethnic groups display pompous attitudes as such. This is just my observation, Igbos and Yorubas need to get over themselves and stop being selfish and greedy. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Gbawe: 8:57am On Mar 01, 2012 |
One_Naira: Chest beating ? Dude, you are sad and pathetic !!!! You claim others are ignorant of events in Ghana yet you confess you yourself rely on what you are told !!! How sad is that ? You think Ghanaians are innocent ? Why not talk to Nigerian living in Ghana to get both side of the story [b]if [/b]you are genuinely interested iin being an informed observer? It is this inherent bias that will always ensure you are prone to jumping to conclusions. I am sorry but , to me, you are just another clown who knows nothing about Ghana only to come here accusing others of ignorance. Have you ever being to Ghana? You think it is enough to make conclusions ignorantly based on what Ghanaians tell you? Do you even know the motivation of many of them? Why don't you visit Ghana to gain 'perspective'? Besides, are you oblivious to how most Africans speak negatively of us worldwide even when there is no need to do so? Does that then make Nigerians the "evil" people they claim we are? Is it that all of us are bad (a gross fallacy) or is it that painting all of us bad , because of a few miscreants, helps some to be comfortable with how we quickly gain what they only dream off? How many of these so-called Ghanaians you "speak to" ever balance their tales by telling you of the many good things Nigerians do in Ghana? In case you don't know, some Ghanaians are even worse at playing Ostrich than the bigoted Nigerians who decieve themselves that it is other ethnic group who are sinners while they are saints who don't even know how to steal or committ crime. Let me give you a small test. Ask your "Ghanaian friends" about drugs in Ghana. If they are honest, you will soon realise that drug-trafficking ,per comparative population ratio, is far higher in Ghana. For its small population, in comparison to Nigeria, the reality is that , independently and without anyone's help, Ghana is a significant drug trafficking hub in West Africa. For example, a great deal of Cocaine impounded on a ship in Ghana disappeared into thin air with collusion all the way up to the top of the Police force because of the " big men" who owned the shippment !!!! Ask your "Ghanaian friends" about Tagor and other drug lords who do as they please in Ghana , act like celebrities, and are freed from jail routinely by political influence. Akuffo Addo's (possibly Ghana's next President) international drug dealer brother-in -law Nko? Dude, you are a joke. You know nothing about the real situation of how drug dealing is very pervasive in Ghana (with most big men and even politicians being actively involved in drug dealing) yet you are happy to ignorantly portray Nigerians as "running" the drug scene in Ghana when the reality is that the Ghanaians can teach us a trick or two about drug dealing. Man mi stop embarrasing yourself. Just stop it and deal with the issues that cause you to view and judge others so erroneously. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Okijajuju1(m): 9:35am On Mar 01, 2012 |
Dede1:
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Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Okijajuju1(m): 9:40am On Mar 01, 2012 |
dayokanu: Dude!! He tactically withdrew not fled. . . And when he tactically withdrew, he expected us to also Tactically run to neighbouring Cameroon. silly us Get your facts straight, Now you owe me yet another apology!! |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by tunnytox(m): 10:33am On Mar 01, 2012 |
Na wa o so Nigeria has so many cyber warriors. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Ozichim(m): 11:59am On Mar 01, 2012 |
I don't know what the ranting is all about. When will people stop been hypocritical even openly, No right and sincere minded fellow will be saying that the Yorubas joined the fight against the Igbos’ when the Igbos has gotten to Ore. Anybody asking the Igbos why they should fight toward Lagos must be very wicked and full of evil. Pls. if you are ignorant and unwise; you should not display it here. Nobody has any ill-feeling why the Yorubas should Join the Hausas to fight the Biafran because that is what the Yorubas believe and they are working for it bearing in mind that they have no option against that. The Yorubas are so afraid and cannot stand their ground in such situation. Ogundipe could not even demand his legitimate right to take over the government from his junior (Gowon) and Yorubas could not help him do that; how then do you expect the Yorubas to tell Hausas that they won't fight. (Which one is easier to get? Getting legitimate demand or getting Illegitimate demand). Cowardice can even make you kill yourself. Anybody can run or shift ground anytime during the war it is normal and natural. All those that participated in this war know that; If the Biafrans had fourth only the Nigerian troops (Hausas, Yorubas etc) the story would have been different, let’s say the truth. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by ACM10: 12:13pm On Mar 01, 2012 |
Okija_juju: I know that you are hurting over the inability of the nigerian forces to capture or kill Ikemba. It's ok to be angry. But learn to live with your anger. The same nigerian forces are doing the job of undertakers for us today and we are grateful for their help. We don't give a damn of what a miserable Yoruba dude thinks |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by eelawe: 12:42pm On Mar 01, 2012 |
Awolowo brought the idea of blockade to starve the Igbo civilians. That single act killed far more people than the war itself. Lagos was the capital, so attack was pushed towards the capital. Yorubas cuss a lot, I think that is their nature. I have nothing against the Yorubas. We have being living together now- in all Yoruba Lands, though sometimes with little skirmishes; nothing to compare with northern massacre. An average Yoruba man is easily frightened. But they can really holler. If I have my way, I think I can marry a Yoruba woman! But only a God-fearing one. They seem domicile and economical. Education now is not only the Yorubas that are educated, the Igbos have their share too. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by ak47mann(m): 1:12pm On Mar 01, 2012 |
I am very proud to hear on BBC as Ojukwu is glowingly addressed as "the late Biafran leader". It is instructive that inspite of several years of pretences to the contrary, the world recognises the existence of the Republic of Biafra. Note the language: "late Biafran leader". Not "late leader of defunct Biafra". These are two different phrases with different connotations. The first phrase, which BBC uses implies a Republic still in existence,while the second phrase, which BBC does not use, refers to a Republic that existed and collapsed after a period of time. Indeed, the world knows that Biafra lives! |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Nobody: 1:59pm On Mar 01, 2012 |
eelawe: Indeed, it took a very frightened 27 year old Benjamin Adekunle to strike terror in the hearts of brave Biafrans, young and old, including your Usain Bolt commander in chief. "Adekunle danced and petted his mascot, a mountain goat named Ojukwu" |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by T8ksy(m): 2:15pm On Mar 01, 2012 |
ak47mann:i] @ bolded, oh good. Now can you do the rest of us a favour and activate your biafra, pronto! You can then pack all ur fellow biafrans outta my region & go and live ever happily after in your "Land of d rising sun". [/i] |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Ozichim(m): 3:10pm On Mar 01, 2012 |
Live B Adekunle out of this, I have said that people should not say what they don't know. Nobody sees Adekunle as a hero or warrior. B. Adekunle was only popular because of few post he held during the war and especially do to his wide mouthed talks against the Biafrans and his barbaric-evil nature. You some of these Yorubas can show sign of boldness when they are wearing their juju around them, such is the case of Benjamin Adekunle, He so much trusted his juju. At least the Biafrans can kill his men while his juju will protect him. Murtala M. showed more bravery than Adekunle. But Adekunle may have shown more hatred/wicked intent to the Biafrans at least by mouth (So the nick name black Scorpion). The name is as a result of wickedness/hatred and not bravery. I hope this is clear. Let Any Nigerian right his Nigerian civil war history to challenge this. Nobody was ever afraid of B. Adekunle. No body has asked about the dreaded/Bravery Biafran warrior "Joe Achuzie". Murtala Mohammed should tell Nigerians and young Nigerians the rest of the story. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Nobody: 3:23pm On Mar 01, 2012 |
Ozichim: Of course, history according to a Biafran. It was his juju! LOL . How ridiculous can you all get? The name of Benjamin Adekunle will forever hunt Biafrans, and it's not because he was cowardly. He remains the one and only Black Scorpion. Joe who? Where was he when Baba Benji was strutting around unhindered in Biafraland? Not even Ojukwu had the balls to come out of his foxhole. |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by youngmonie: 3:39pm On Mar 01, 2012 |
If all these comments are by the so called "FUTURE LEADERS" or the nxt generation of Nigerians. IM sorry der is no NIGERIA in the forseeable future because its jus a problem dat is going to go on and on!!!, what a pity |
Re: Ibo And Yoruba Rivalry - Myths And Facts - Part 1 by Ozichim(m): 4:22pm On Mar 01, 2012 |
Aigbofa:What do you want to hear. I won't forge story. Tell us where and what make you think people were afraid of Ben. Adekun. Bearing in mind that the Igbos naturally does not fear. If Ben. Adek. is such a warrior many Igbos will even like him. Because they usually like such person. Pls. don't make the man what he is not. Tell us where he proved his gallantry during the war. As we said wickedness/rudeness is not gallantry. Wickedness is more like witchcraft. So , bring you facts. As for the Juju; no body is surprise about that and no true Yoruba will deny that as it is almost their custom. When you fill that your juju is strong then you will be bold; but that is human for you, but it is false, it is pretence, it is not bravery(You can check your dictionary is you are in doubt). |
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