re@lchange:


i think the idea behind this is export and foreign direct investment
SE can never have them without direct international access
even if it has them without the international airports, it would continue to play second fiddle to other zones with them.
that is why you see people from other zones trying hard to kill the idea
they fear that it will deflate their own zones
use your head bruv

ndu_chucks:

^^^+1000 The above is a detribalized and very sensible post for which OlodoWisestein should be applauded

Olodostein:

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The Idea makes sense in theory but at this juncture, there are more pressing issues. There are more fundamental issues to tackle. When you set out on a journey through the desert; which is more important to you: Water or your Cologne?

As Eze- Ndigbo Onlytruth said, "this is the 21st century". The era of the Nwaboy economy is coming to an end. We have to start Thinking futuristically. The new global economy will not necessarily be defined by the number of physical structures standing but by the number of bits your processor can process or how fast your transport drones can transport your goods even from the roof of your house.

It is high time we encourage our kids to embrace passionate and study biomedical sciences to develop vaccines, antibiotics and what have you for diseases that plagues Nigeria and Africa. It is high time we build clean infrastructures to reduce or possibly eradicate malaria and typhoid,etc.

Cmon people ! Lets get real.



Back to pragmatism .

re@lchange:
@Olodostein
also please become very afraid when you see ndu-chuks supporting you
he wants igbo land to remain in chains so that he will sleep at night with his wicked one nigeria dreams
these airports will create an entirely new idea and be a game changer
the potential is limitless

re@lchange:


bruv do you know how hard these are to develop without international interaction?
just take a look at nigeria, and SE for now, you can even map the best schools/research centers in nigeria to international airports and see that they are directly co-related.
that is what i think eze onlytruth is trying to say

Nnenna1: Olodostein has a point in that manufacturing and homegrown production is paramount in any form of development. China, Japan and Russia did not become superpowers largely by foreign investment. Nigeria as a whole is a colossal failure in garnering as much self-sufficiency as possible. Number one reason for this stemming from lack of electricity.

If the electricity problem was solved and Nigerians (including those in the diaspora) are as resourceful and as creative as I think, many of the basic fundamental needs would have been solved since yesterday.

I honestly believe this.

Come to think of it - I find it surprising that no one has thought of affordable and alternative methods for generating electricity (I.e. Fuel free) to sell. Would this be illegal since electricity generation is a FG scheme?

shymmex: I think three airports are not enough, why can't you ask for fifty? Nigerians are dying everyday from hunger, stress, lack of health care, and lack of basic infrastructures - yet you want the government to waste the scarce resources on irrelevant structures.

Nnenna1: Olodostein has a point in that manufacturing and homegrown production is paramount in any form of development. China, Japan and Russia did not become superpowers largely by foreign investment. Nigeria as a whole is a colossal failure in garnering as much self-sufficiency as possible. Number one reason for this stemming from lack of electricity.

If the electricity problem was solved and Nigerians (including those in the diaspora) are as resourceful and as creative as I think, many of the basic fundamental needs would have been solved since yesterday.

I honestly believe this.

Come to think of it - I find it surprising that no one has thought of affordable and alternative methods for generating electricity (I.e. Fuel free) to sell. Would this be illegal since electricity generation is a FG scheme?

BlackPikiN: ^^^^You are becoming real nuisance!

WTF is your problem?

Igbo matter don make u dey go madt?

Are you Alh Harem's cousin?

You are in every Igbo thread showing your insecurities!

BlackPikiN: ^^^^So Igbo threads are the ones you can will face squarely abi?

You know no where Aso Rock dey again!

You are really insecure and no amount of twisting can deny it!

Go get a life and stop the f0rking I am a Nigerian sh/it!

You no get village again?

Onlytruth:

I never said anything about building NEW international airports. All I said is that SE needs international airports. I then went ahead to qualify the one for Onitsha, saying that Asaba can be upgraded to play that role.

you cannot use current traffic to estimate likely future international traffic. That is even a laughable method. I would say that about 20 -40 percent of the Lagos traffic originate or terminate in SE. I am even being conservative with that figure. So, look at Enugu in the neighborhood of 1 - 2 million annually if it is upgraded into a FULL international airport.

Again, you can't use current statistics showing LOCAL operations to estimate the likely traffic for Enugu.

Please don't compare Enugu with PH because Enugu is yet to enjoy international status.

GAR3TH:

Thats incorrect. You said you want to Build or upgrade the airport. By upgrade you said you want to build new airport terminals and demolish the old "crack house" terminals that currently exist. You then went on to post pictures of airports around the world. Yes you want to upgrade them, but according to your vision you are basically building a new airport ontop of the site of the old one. So yes your are [wastefully] building a new airport, even if you upgrade.




Really so Enugu will have 1-2 million people once upgraded while port harcourt which is only an hours drive away only has 13,000 international passengers per year, really. can you tell me were the 1-2 million people will come from. Were the average igboman will find the money to buy a $2000 international plane ticket? You actually believe a market seller or a trader will have the money to buy a ticket and go on vacation in Bahamas, really. You my friend have lost touch with reality.

And stop with those stupid propaganda stats about the south east please!!!



Yes i can. If enugu's domestic passenger traffic is low because people cant afford to by a cheaper domestic plane ticket. what in your right mind makes you think they can afford a more expensive international plane ticket, really.



[size=25pt]I can compare them. Both airports are only an hours drive apart from one another. PH international is only a 5 minute drive from igboland. So if an airport that is 5 minutes away from igboland is not doing well internationally [domestically its busy] what makes you think enugu airport, a couple of miles away will be any different. Oh, because its in igboland so by logic it will do well, really.
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What you have is exactly what nigerian politicians have, MISSED PLACED PRIORITIES. How does 3 international airports help the common man when you have no roads to access the airport, no rail system, no secuirty, no light, no water, no educational system etc. I recall that you were bragging about the renovation of the river port in onitsha.

You said the port will be the economic engine of the south east and people wont have to go through lagos anymore to get to the south east. Well the River port and dredging of the lower niger river has been completed for months know. So what does the port look like today, its empty, not a single ship, no cargo whats so ever, the port hardly get used. WHy? because there are no basic infrastructures around the port!!!! unlike lagos there is no good roads leading to the port to handle the heavy traffic, no railway system connect to the port, improper security around the port etc.

What you are proposing with the airport is exactly whats happening with the port. You are basically putting the cart before the horse.

BlackPikiN:


You sound as dumb as f0rk!

bittyend: @ Abagworo

I want to read your suggestions, I like your mentality - you're one the realist people on NL. Okija_juju used to be like you, but I don't know when he contracted the virus. I think Ejine is also someone I rate highly.

chino11: Am beginning to think that Eze Onlytruth is light years ahead of all these retardeens we have on NL. This is somebody who is seeing the future of Alaigbo even beyond some of our sitting governors. He made sense when he posited that cities like Onitsha needs an Irnternational airport going by the volume of economic activities taking place in the city, which can only be compared to Lagos and PH. Nnewi also needs an access to the international airport that will be sited around Onitsha or Anambra north area.

Dede1:

Are you in any way insinuating that air carriers will take off and land at any airport deemed necessary without auhtorization? Please try to book a direct flight to Port Harcourt from certain air carriers other than air France or Lufthansa and listen to the response.

Dede1:

I heard you sound and clear, bro. People who have never tried to bring partners to Nigeria through the ports other than Lagos or Abuja will never understand the essence of direct flight into Nigeria from abroad.

I will not mind a quick and hassle-free road journey for my guests but the stopover in Lagos or Abuja with local flight inconsistence and in certain cases sudden outright cancellation of flights.

Onlytruth: The core idea behind this proposal is that we need direct contact with foreign expertise. That can come from Nigerian diaspora, or foreigners. Without it, we can never grow modern businesses, and even professional practices.

debosky:

I am not insinuating anything - provide EVIDENCE of the FG trying to 'kill' PH airport or keep your imaginations to yourself.

You can't idly make claims that the FG is trying to do so and so without evidence.

Even if we believe the ridiculous idea that the FG is trying to 'kill' PH airport, what makes you think the same FG cannot try to 'kill' airports in the SE? Oh wait - the Igboland argument again - simply because it is in Igboland it will succeed.

The same way the roads have been built in Igboland, the same way pipelines are supplying petroleum products to Igboland and gully erosion has been dealt with in Igboland.

debosky:

So where is the evidence that direct flights into Abuja and Lagos are insufficient? You need direct flights into each mud hut in Nigeria before you can have investment there?



So you think that an airport in Igboland will magically remove all these problems?

debosky:

So you need to fly people directly to an airport to have contact?

When people in modern countries are collaborating across continents using IT technologies like virtual offices,digital libraries, teleconferencing, virtual conferencing, webcasts, webinars and the like, you phoolishly think you need to fly people directly into an area before they can be contact?

So your attorney friend needs to be able to feel the spit coming from the mouths of the people he is talking to before he can pass on knowledge?

Heck you should also say phones should be banned and people only talk face to face.

Backwards doesn't even begin to describe your mindset.

Dede1:

What a nonsensical poser. Debos, what are you smoking when you wrote this crap? What do you mean by a question such as “So where is the evidence that direct flights into Abuja and Lagos are insufficient?” I am not talking about sufficient or lack thereof. I am talking about convenience, safety (bad roads and local coffins they fly in Nigeria), time and memorabilia.

Lagos is 270 miles to Owerri and Abuja is close to 1000 miles to Owerri. Why in the world would I want to fly into Lagos or Abuja to get to Owerri on bad roads or fly in a coffin while Port Harcourt is 51 miles away from Owerri? Should I fly to Boston or New York from Nigeria for an intended journey to DC? Though granted the fact USA had good roads and transportation systems, such option is not in the cards of any right-thinking fellow.

Dede1:
There is no doubt you came with load of bias to this debate. All you have been writing is roads and gullies or lack thereof in Igbo land. I guess the argument the original poster made was south east of Nigeria is due for 3 International airports.

It is unfortunate you kept asking for evidence when the FG of Nigeria is final arbiter on the landing rights with regard to Nigerian airports. If the government of Nigeria has no hand in stymieing Port Harcourt airport, why is it only two carriers can go to Port Harcourt from abroad?

During the patch-up of Port Harcourt airport, Air France begged the FG of Nigeria to permit landing rights in Owerri but Nigeria refused the request.

I could not believe reading such tribal-tinted post from you. From roads to airports, it has been the responsibility of the FG yet failure is what we get. The Port Harcourt-Owerri road, which would have made a journey from airport to Owerri memorable one, is neglected by FG of Nigeria. Yet you have the audacity to ask me for evidence.