Mary was not a white woman. These pictures of Mary are of a white European woman and do not in any way represent the true Mary of the Bible.

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The true Mary of the Bible was a brown or black skinned woman. She was of the tribe of Judah of the seed of David, and David's great grandmother Ruth was a Black Moabites woman. David was not a white man. Any representations of Mary as a white woman are false. But many do not know this.

The pictures look beautiful and allure to one's sympathy and love of purity. These icons are designed to appeal to a person's heart and not their mind. Actually, these pictures are worshiped by many who believe these images of Mary contain her very presence. Pictures of Mary are idols when people pray to them or give them worship in prayers

Is this a true image of the real Mary or is it a picture designed to lead Catholics to believe if Mary prays the rosary, then it must be what they should do?

The rosary was invented by Peter the Hermit in 1090AD and brought fully into the Catholic Church by St. Dominic in the year 1214AD and approved by Pope Innocent III. How could Mary use something that was not invented until 1000+ years after her death? St. Dominic claimed Mary gave him the rosary. Fact is, St. Dominic lied, he used Mary as the source of it so it would be quickly accepted by all Catholics. Where would Mary, a Jewish woman, obtain any idea of this pagan design? The rosary was not known by any of the Apostles. They never prayed using it. Surely Mary could have introduced it to them if it was something all Christians should use. Another point of interest here is that we follow the Apostle's Doctrine. We are no where told by the Apostles that Mary had any special revelations or powers within or over the New Testament Church. Therefore, the introduction of the rosary by St. Dominic is suspicious on many accounts. Not one time in the life of Mary did she ever pray using the rosary.

Mary never attended a Catholic Church. Many do not know there was no Catholic Church until 325AD. The Catholic Church was formed by 318 or so Bishops at the Council of Nicaea. Before this date there was no unified Catholic Church. It was in this year that Constantine established the Catholic Church and the Nicene Creed was invented around which all the Bishops gathered and unified forming the Catholic Church. Mary never attended a Catholic Church. Someone asked: "Wasn't Mary a Christian, and doesn't this make her a Catholic?" No, this does not make Mary a Catholic. In fact, none of the Apostles were Catholic and never were in or a part of the Catholic Church. What is a Christian anyway?

A Christian is a person who has been converted to the Messianic Judaism religion of Jesus. The name Christian is composed of two parts "Christ" which means Messiah, son of David, King and Lord of Israel; and "ian" which is a suffix added to names like Corinth-ians, Ephes-ians, Phillip-ians, Collos-ians, etc. and is the equivalent of the Biblical "ites" which simply means "people." Thus, the name Israelites means Israel-ites: people of Israel. Corresponding then we have Corinthians which means people of Corinth. With this understanding we can see how that Christians and or Christites are the same and interpreted in keeping with syntax and meaning would be people of Messiah, or People of the King of Israel, or people of the Lord. Collectively these are identified as Messianic Believers. Now, since the Catholic Church did not exist until 325AD, no Christian, no Messianic believer, no people of Messiah, were Catholic. The Catholic Church is a Gentile body of people with a Gentile head as Pope. The Church of which Mary was a member was totally Jewish. The Church of Acts 1 and 2 consisted only of Jewish men and women.

Mary never went to confession. The confession booth was not installed in the Catholic Church until 1215AD and instituted by Pope Innocent III. Members of the Catholic Church no longer repented directly to God, they were told they could confess their sins to a Priest and he had power to forgive them of their sins. The confession booth has been used to obtain sexual information with which to seduce guilty women, girls, and boys. It has been used to extract information about people whom the priest get the those confessing to give. The confession booth is used to make Catholics feel they need the Priest and the Catholic Church more then they need God. Mary never went into a confession booth.

Mary never believed in or knew about Limbo-hell for babies or of Purgatory-hell for older kids and adults. Existence of purgatory was proclaimed to be a fact in the year 1438AD. Limbo was proclaimed to be a fact in the fifth century. Both Purgatory and Limbo are money-making devises for the Catholic Church. Prayers alone do not release these from the flames of hell. It takes money. The money might be an offering for the poor box, it might be for a missionary fund, it might be to purchase a candle manufactured by the Church or an auxiliary, or just simply put your cash in the offering plate. There is nothing in the Word of God about Purgatory or Limbo. These are man-made inventions. One thing for sure, Mary never knew about or believed in Purgatory or Limbo. Mary was not a Catholic.

. Mary never knew a Catholic Pope. The Apostle Peter never was a Catholic Pope. He was married and had a wife. He had a mother-in-law. Attempts to pervert this are examples of how the Catholic Church has perverted a lot of truth and turned them into lies and falsehoods. Mary, her other children, (Mary was not a perpetual virgin, that is another lie), were in the upper room in Acts 1 and received the gift of the Holy Spirit. Mary herself, the mother of Jesus, spoke in other tongues as the Spirit gave her the ability of utterance. Mary herself had to be saved. Mary was there when Peter preached Acts 2:38. If Peter was the first Pope, how come the Catholic Church does not accept Peter's words in Acts 2:38. Why did they make it illegal for anyone to be baptized in the name of Jesus Messiah for the remission of sins?

Oga copy and paste

Why don't you post the original link here

chinedumo: Mary was not a white woman. These pictures of Mary are of a white European woman and do not in any way represent the true Mary of the Bible.

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The true Mary of the Bible was a brown or black skinned woman. She was of the tribe of Judah of the seed of David, and David's great grandmother Ruth was a Black Moabites woman. David was not a white man. Any representations of Mary as a white woman are false. But many do not know this.

The pictures look beautiful and allure to one's sympathy and love of purity. These icons are designed to appeal to a person's heart and not their mind. Actually, these pictures are worshiped by many who believe these images of Mary contain her very presence. Pictures of Mary are idols when people pray to them or give them worship in prayers

Is this a true image of the real Mary or is it a picture designed to lead Catholics to believe if Mary prays the rosary, then it must be what they should do?

The rosary was invented by Peter the Hermit in 1090AD and brought fully into the Catholic Church by St. Dominic in the year 1214AD and approved by Pope Innocent III. How could Mary use something that was not invented until 1000+ years after her death? St. Dominic claimed Mary gave him the rosary. Fact is, St. Dominic lied, he used Mary as the source of it so it would be quickly accepted by all Catholics. Where would Mary, a Jewish woman, obtain any idea of this pagan design? The rosary was not known by any of the Apostles. They never prayed using it. Surely Mary could have introduced it to them if it was something all Christians should use. Another point of interest here is that we follow the Apostle's Doctrine. We are no where told by the Apostles that Mary had any special revelations or powers within or over the New Testament Church. Therefore, the introduction of the rosary by St. Dominic is suspicious on many accounts. Not one time in the life of Mary did she ever pray using the rosary.

Mary never attended a Catholic Church. Many do not know there was no Catholic Church until 325AD. The Catholic Church was formed by 318 or so Bishops at the Council of Nicaea. Before this date there was no unified Catholic Church. It was in this year that Constantine established the Catholic Church and the Nicene Creed was invented around which all the Bishops gathered and unified forming the Catholic Church. Mary never attended a Catholic Church. Someone asked: "Wasn't Mary a Christian, and doesn't this make her a Catholic?" No, this does not make Mary a Catholic. In fact, none of the Apostles were Catholic and never were in or a part of the Catholic Church. What is a Christian anyway?

A Christian is a person who has been converted to the Messianic Judaism religion of Jesus. The name Christian is composed of two parts "Christ" which means Messiah, son of David, King and Lord of Israel; and "ian" which is a suffix added to names like Corinth-ians, Ephes-ians, Phillip-ians, Collos-ians, etc. and is the equivalent of the Biblical "ites" which simply means "people." Thus, the name Israelites means Israel-ites: people of Israel. Corresponding then we have Corinthians which means people of Corinth. With this understanding we can see how that Christians and or Christites are the same and interpreted in keeping with syntax and meaning would be people of Messiah, or People of the King of Israel, or people of the Lord. Collectively these are identified as Messianic Believers. Now, since the Catholic Church did not exist until 325AD, no Christian, no Messianic believer, no people of Messiah, were Catholic. The Catholic Church is a Gentile body of people with a Gentile head as Pope. The Church of which Mary was a member was totally Jewish. The Church of Acts 1 and 2 consisted only of Jewish men and women.

Mary never went to confession. The confession booth was not installed in the Catholic Church until 1215AD and instituted by Pope Innocent III. Members of the Catholic Church no longer repented directly to God, they were told they could confess their sins to a Priest and he had power to forgive them of their sins. The confession booth has been used to obtain sexual information with which to seduce guilty women, girls, and boys. It has been used to extract information about people whom the priest get the those confessing to give. The confession booth is used to make Catholics feel they need the Priest and the Catholic Church more then they
need God. Mary never went into a confession booth.

Mary never believed in or knew about Limbo-hell for babies or of Purgatory-hell for older kids and adults. Existence of purgatory was proclaimed to be a fact in the year 1438AD. Limbo was proclaimed to be a fact in the fifth century. Both Purgatory and Limbo are money-making devises for the Catholic Church. Prayers alone do not release these from the flames of hell. It takes money. The money might be an offering for the poor box, it might be for a missionary fund, it might be to purchase a candle manufactured by the Church or an auxiliary, or just simply put your cash in the offering plate. There is nothing in the Word of God about Purgatory or Limbo. These are man-made inventions. One thing for sure, Mary never knew about or believed in Purgatory or Limbo. Mary was not a Catholic.

. Mary never knew a Catholic Pope. The Apostle Peter never was a Catholic Pope. He was married and had a wife. He had a mother-in-law. Attempts to pervert this are examples of how the Catholic Church has perverted a lot of truth and turned them into lies and falsehoods. Mary, her other children, (Mary was not a perpetual virgin, that is another lie), were in the upper room in Acts 1 and received the gift of the Holy Spirit. Mary herself, the mother of Jesus, spoke in other tongues as the Spirit gave her the ability of utterance. Mary herself had to be saved. Mary was there when Peter preached Acts 2:38. If Peter was the first Pope, how come the Catholic Church does not accept Peter's words in Acts 2:38. Why did they make it illegal for anyone to be baptized in the name of Jesus Messiah for the remission of sins?

People just copy and paste thrash without even thinking them through.What does the race of mary got to do with salvation or the catholic church.Mary can even be chinese or cambodian for all I care.Mary is only being depicted as white because the isrealis whoose race she hailed from are whites.What on earth gave you the impression she and ruth were blacks? Even if there were, What is the big deal about that?I am sure you don't have any idea about since you only do copy and paste

One other thing you must know is that there is nothing like jewish christian just like you cannot have a christian jew.jews are those who believe salvation lies in obeying the mosaic laws.They don't acknowlege the diivinity of Jesus and are still awaiting the messiah.Mary like the apostles were born into the jewish tradition and clinged on to it till the birth of the church on pentecost day,after which they all dumped the garb of judaism.

[/quote]St. Dominic claimed Mary gave him the rosary. Fact is, St. Dominic lied, he used Mary as the source of it so it would be quickly accepted by all Catholics. Where would Mary, a Jewish woman, obtain any idea of this pagan design? The rosary was not known by any of the Apostles. They never prayed using it. Surely Mary could have introduced it to them if it was something all Christians should use. Another point of interest here is that we follow the Apostle's Doctrine. We are no where told by the Apostles that Mary had any special revelations or powers within or over the New Testament Church. Therefore, the introduction of the rosary by St. Dominic is suspicious on many accounts. Not one time in the life of Mary did she ever pray using the rosary.[quote]

How could the apostles have used the rosary when it only came into existence over a thousand yrs after their death.wy didn't you ask why the apostles did not browse nairaland?

Yes Mary has a special revelation and power.The most special revelation of the incarnation was granted unto her and she had the special privilege of carrying God in her womb.What could be more special than that?

you are right anybody that is worshiping Mary, is a pagan worshiper.

[/quote]Mary never attended a Catholic Church. Many do not know there was no Catholic Church until 325AD. The Catholic Church was formed by 318 or so Bishops at the Council of Nicaea. Before this date there was no unified Catholic Church. It was in this year that Constantine established the Catholic Church and the Nicene Creed was invented around which all the Bishops gathered and unified forming the Catholic Church. Mary never attended a Catholic Church. Someone asked: "Wasn't Mary a Christian, and doesn't this make her a Catholic?" No, this does not make Mary a Catholic. In fact, none of the Apostles were Catholic and never were in or a part of the Catholic Church. What is a Christian anyway?[quote]

This a fat lie always espoused by hare brained anti-catholics like you.The catholic church has always existed from the day of the pentecost.The truth remains that at the inception,the church was not supposed to be a denomination hence no particular name was given to them like we have 2day.There only existed churches in differant cities like Church of corinth,church of ephesus,church of rome e.t.c with bishops ,presbyters and deacons appointed to cater for them.The term catholic was first used to describe the church in 107 CE by st Ignatius the third bishop of antioch on is road to matyrdom.Even when he used this term term then,it was still not intended to be used as a denominational name but was rather used to describe the universal church since the term catholic is actually a synonym for universal.when various gnostic and other heretical christian sects arose later in the second century,it became a term used to describe those who adhered to the orthodox doctrine.The phrase "catholic church was repeatedly used by st Ireneaus of lyons in his work "against heresies " or adversus haerus in greek.He went ahead to describe the head of the church and it's apostolic origins.He went ahead to list the names of the bishops of rome as the pope was then called up to the bishop when his work was written.

The fact remains however that the RCC is not the only surving apostolic church in the world today.Some other churches also founded by the apostles later broke out of communion with the church of rome after church councils like the council of ephesus and council of chalcedon over christological disagreements in the fifth century.This churches like the church of armenia,church of alexandria,greek orthodox church,othordox churches of syria,macedonia e.t.c

The funny thing is that in spite of over a thousand years seperation from rome are still very much similar to the RCC including the so called "worship of mary'

Wherever the bishop appears, there let the people be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful to baptize or give communion without the consent of the bishop. On the other hand, whatever has his approval is pleasing to God. Thus, whatever is done will be safe and valid. — Letter of st ignatius to the Smyrnaeans .

The blessed apostles, then having founded and built the Church (in Rome), committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate...To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric...In the time of this Clement, no small dissension having occurred among the brethern at Corinth, the Church in Rome despatched a most powerful letter to the Corinthians...To this Clement there succeeded Evaristus. Alexander followed Evaristus; then...Sixtus (the list continues)... In this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the turth, have come down to us. [Against Heresies III, 3, 3]

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One other thing you must know is that there is nothing like jewish christian just like you cannot have a christian jew.jews are those who believe salvation lies in obeying the mosaic laws.They don't acknowlege the diivinity of Jesus and are still awaiting the messiah.Mary like the apostles were born into the jewish tradition and clinged on to it till the birth of the church on pentecost day,after which they all dumped the garb of judaism.[/quote/]

You are wrong about that. Jews are Isrealites. Jesus himself was a Jew. Being a Jew is just like being Igbo or Hausa. There are Christians who are Jews.

I am posting these links to disclaim your assertions that before the council of nicea in 325 CE,there was never a unified church.Well now listen to cyprian bishop of the church of carthage who lived before the council of nicea

"[After quoting Matthew 16:18f; John 21:15ff]...On him [Peter] He builds the Church, and to him He gives the command to feed the sheep; and although He assigned a like power to all the Apostles, yet he founded a single Chair, and He established by His own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was; but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one Chair. So too, all are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the Apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?" (Cyprian, The Unity of the Catholic Church [first edition] 4, c. AD 251)

"Our Lord, whose commands we ought to fear and observe, says in the Gospel, by way of assigning the episcopal dignity and settling the plan of His Church...[quotes Matthew 16:18f]...From that time the ordination of bishops and the plan of the Church flows on through the changes of times and successions; for the Church is founded upon the bishops, and every act of the Church is controlled by these same rulers. Since this has indeed been established by divine law, I marvel at the rash boldness of certain persons who have desired to write to me as if they were writing their letters in the name of the Church, 'since the Church is established upon the bishop and upon the clergy and upon all who stand firm in the faith.'" (Cyprian, Letter 33 (27), 1 to the Lapsed, c. AD 250)

"They who have not peace themselves now offer peace to others. They who have withdrawn from the Church promise to lead back and to recall the lapsed to the Church. There is one God and one Christ, and one Church, and one Chair founded on Peter by the word of the Lord. It is not possible to set up another altar or for there to be another priesthood besides that one altar and that one priesthood. Whoever has gathered elsewehre is scattering." (Cyprian, Letter 43 (40), 5, c. AD 251)

"With a false bishop appointed for themselves by heretics, they dare even to set sail and carry letters from schismatics and blasphemers to the chair of Peter and to the principal Church [at Rome], in which sacerdotal unity has its source; nor did they take thought that these are Romans, whose faith was praised by the preaching Apostle, and among whom it is not possible for perfidy to have entrance." (Cyprian, Letter 59 (55), 14 to Cornelius of Rome, c. AD 252)

"There speaks Peter, upon whom the Church would be built, teaching in the name of the Church and showing that even if a stubborn and proud multitude withdraws because it does not wish to obey, yet the Church does not withdraw from Christ. The people joined to the priest and the flock clinging to their shepherd are the Church. You ought to know, then, that the bishop is in the Church and the Church in the bishop, and if someone is not with the bishop, he is not in the Church. They vainly flatter themselves who creep up, not having peace with the priests of God, believing that they are secretly in communion with certain individuals. For the Church, which is One and Catholic, is not split nor divided, but is indeed united and joined by the cement of priests who adhere one to another." (Cyprian, Letter 66 (69), 8 to Florentius Pupianus, c. AD 254)

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Daresh pls not all isrealis are jews.Jews are used to refer to those who practise judaism just like christians are used to describe those who practised christianity

Since, however, it would be tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious Apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority, that is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as the apostolical tradition has been preserved continuously by those [faithful men] who exist everywhere.[23 -st Ireneaus in against heresies 173 CE

chukwudi44:

Daresh pls not all isrealis are jews.Jews are used to refer to those who practise judaism just like christians are used to describe those who practised christianity

Daresh is right. The Jews are a population and also it's the name of the religion.

We can have jewish Christians, atheists, agnostics,etc.

Anyone born into a Jewish family is a Jew, but they can choose whether to practice Judaism as a religion or not.

chukwudi44:
Yes Mary has a special revelation and power.The most special revelation of the incarnation was granted unto her and she had the special privilege of carrying God in her womb.What could be more special than that?

When Jesus died he promised to send us the Holy Spirit to be our comforter and helper. As a believer, The Holy Spirit lives in us as Paul said we are temples of the Holy Spirit. (1Cor 6:19) Based on ur reasoning shld everyone now worship all christians for having the special priviledge of carrying God?

Mary was a wonderful vessel and we all appreciate her for being used because im sure it was not easy for her but Mary is NOT to be prayed to and idolized. She is just like u and me when we obey God and allow ourselves to be used for His glory.

chinedumo:
The rosary was invented by Peter the Hermit in 1090AD and brought fully into the Catholic Church by St. Dominic in the year 1214AD and approved by Pope Innocent III. How could Mary use something that was not invented until 1000+ years after her death? St. Dominic claimed Mary gave him the rosary. Fact is, St. Dominic lied, he used Mary as the source of it so it would be quickly accepted by all Catholics. Where would Mary, a Jewish woman, obtain any idea of this pagan design? The rosary was not known by any of the Apostles. They never prayed using it. Surely Mary could have introduced it to them if it was something all Christians should use. Another point of interest here is that we follow the Apostle's Doctrine. We are no where told by the Apostles that Mary had any special revelations or powers within or over the New Testament Church. Therefore, the introduction of the rosary by St. Dominic is suspicious on many accounts. Not one time in the life of Mary did she ever pray using the rosary.


Mary never went to confession. The confession booth was not installed in the Catholic Church until 1215AD and instituted by Pope Innocent III. Members of the Catholic Church no longer repented directly to God, they were told they could confess their sins to a Priest and he had power to forgive them of their sins. The confession booth has been used to obtain sexual information with which to seduce guilty women, girls, and boys. It has been used to extract information about people whom the priest get the those confessing to give. The confession booth is used to make Catholics feel they need the Priest and the Catholic Church more then they need God. Mary never went into a confession booth.

Peter's words in Acts 2:38. [color=#990000]Why did they make it illegal for anyone to be baptized in the name of Jesus Messiah for the remission of sins?

Excellent Points.
1. The rosary in its entirety is totally uncriptural. If any1 feels differently pls refer me to a relevant bible verse.
2. The Confession booths are unscriptural. Only God (The Trinity) has the power to forgive sins. 1 Jhn 1:7-9
3. Praying to mary is unscriptural. Jesus said I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THRU ME. Pray tell if we needed mary to intercede for us dont u think Jesus would hv said so when he said this

Pls brothers and sisters there is a way that seems right to man but ends in destruction. Do not practise idolatory in the name of christianity.

Sugardiva:

When Jesus died he promised to send us the Holy Spirit to be our comforter and helper. As a believer, The Holy Spirit lives in us as Paul said we are temples of the Holy Spirit. (1Cor 6:19) Based on ur reasoning shld everyone now worship all christians for having the special priviledge of carrying God?

Mary was a wonderful vessel and we all appreciate her for being used because im sure it was not easy for her but Mary is NOT to be prayed to and idolized. She is just like u and me when we obey God and allow ourselves to be used for His glory.

You mean to tell me that christians ousing the oly spirit is now same with physically Mary physically carrying God in er womb?Well mary did not just house Jesus,she is also the source of Jesus's humanity.His flesh and blood were gotten from her.So your analogy is flawed.Mary carried God physically in her wombs fed and breastfeaded him as well.That being said that still does not justify anyone worshipping her hence no worship is directed to her by the RCC.

Sugardiva:

Excellent Points.
1. The rosary in its entirety is totally uncriptural. If any1 feels differently pls refer me to a relevant bible verse.
2. The Confession booths are unscriptural. Only God (The Trinity) has the power to forgive sins. 1 Jhn 1:7-9
3. Praying to mary is unscriptural. Jesus said I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THRU ME. Pray tell if we needed mary to intercede for us dont u think Jesus would hv said so when he said this

Pls brothers and sisters there is a way that seems right to man but ends in destruction. Do not practise idolatory in the name of christianity.

The entire rosary is very much biblical.The ail mary's are derived from the greetingsof the angel gabriel and elizabeth while the popular Lord's prayer was presented by Jesus himself.

The priest's power in the confessional booth is derived from this biblical verse.
John 20:21-23
21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

Abi would you criticize Jesus for giving them this power?

Nobody prays to mary or goes to the father through her or any of the other saints.what catholics do is to ask her and other saints to pray to Jesus for us just like you also demand from your pastors and brethren.No one is going to the father through her rather we are going to the son through her and other saints

Contrary to your claims, the Early church is not Roman catholic

chukwudi44: I am posting these links to disclaim your assertions that before the council of nicea in 325 CE,there was never a unified church.Well now listen to cyprian bishop of the church of carthage who lived before the council of nicea

"[After quoting Matthew 16:18f; John 21:15ff]...On him [Peter] He builds the Church, and to him He gives the command to feed the sheep; and although He assigned a like power to all the Apostles, yet he founded a single Chair, and He established by His own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was; but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one Chair. So too, all are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the Apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?" (Cyprian, The Unity of the Catholic Church [first edition] 4, c. AD 251)

"Our Lord, whose commands we ought to fear and observe, says in the Gospel, by way of assigning the episcopal dignity and settling the plan of His Church...

Does who have the Holy Spirit are carrying God in them
John 14
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

The Holy Spirit is Jesus/Yeshua in us

John 14: 20At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

chukwudi44:
You mean to tell me that christians ousing the oly spirit is now same with physically Mary physically carrying God in er womb?Well mary did not just house Jesus,she is also the source of Jesus's humanity.His flesh and blood were gotten from her.So your analogy is flawed.Mary carried God physically in her wombs fed and breastfeaded him as well.That being said that still does not justify anyone worshipping her hence no worship is directed to her by the RCC.

Disciples where given that power
and not mercenaries of the pope

chukwudi44:

The entire rosary is very much biblical.The ail mary's are derived from the greetingsof the angel gabriel and elizabeth while the popular Lord's prayer was presented by Jesus himself.

The priest's power in the confessional booth is derived from this biblical verse.
John 20:21-23
21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

Abi would you criticize Jesus for giving them this power?

Nobody prays to mary or goes to the father through her or any of the other saints.what catholics do is to ask her and other saints to pray to Jesus for us just like you also demand from your pastors and brethren.No one is going to the father through her rather we are going to the son through her and other saints

OP
You tried in bringing out these. However,I want you to sincerely answer my questions below:

1. Did Jesus use the "Bible"? If Jesus did not use the "Bible", why do you believe in the "Bible"?
2. Did the apostles use the "Bible" during their ministries? If no, why do you accept the "Bible" as God's word?
3. Is the word "Bible" in the Bible? If it is not there, who gave the name "Bible"?
4. Is the word "Christmas" in the Bible? If no, why do you celebrate "Christmas"?
5. Why did the apostles of Jesus increased from 4 to 12?
6. Did Jesus belong to any "Church" organisation? If no, why are you a member of/attend a "Church"?
7. Did Jesus go to the Synagogue to teach on "Sundays" or on "Saturdays"?
8. Where was Jesus between the ages 12 and 30? Why are these crucial historical periods not recorded in the "Bible"?
9. What was the name of the "Church" Jesus formed?
10.If Mary had other children, why did Jesus handover the care of Mary to the "disciple who Jesus loved" and not to Jesus' other brothers?
11. Before I forget, today is "Easter" Monday. Let me wish you a happy "Easter". Why did you celebrate "Easter" when it is not in the "Bible"?.
12. If you believe Mary had no special power from God, why did Mary prompt Jesus to provide wine during the Marriage in Cana knowing fully well Jesus had no winepress or money to buy wine?

The essence of these questions is to educate us that organisations evolve with time, and the "Church"/"Christianity" is not an exception. Shouting this or that is not in the "Bible" and so it is a false teaching/doctrine of man is a wrong perception when you know that the word "Bible" which you use as your book of reference is not even in the 'Bible'.

Finally, I will say work your salvation with trembling. Be doer of the word and not an academic of the word.

May the peace of the risen Lord be with you.

chinedumo: Contrary to your claims, the Early church is not Roman catholic

I don't engage in childish rantings.I have been able to present historical facts to support my claim.If you r to disclaim my assertions kindly back it up with any historical evidence.Don't just make unsubstantiated claims

chinedumo: Does who have the Holy Spirit are carrying God in them
John 14
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

The Holy Spirit is Jesus/Yeshua in us

John 14: 20At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Young man you are deluded,Mary carried Jesus PHYS0iCALLY in her womb and not just that she is also the source of his human life.His flesh and blood were sourced from Mary

chinedumo: Disciples where given that power
and not mercenaries of the pope

Like I told you earlier I don't engage in infantile arguments.You asked for biblical backing for confessions to priest and I have given it.You now refer to priests as mercenaries of the pope.Well the same mercenaries of the pope compiled the christian bible.This same mercenaries were also responsible for it's deleneation into chapters

The madness of religion continues.

chukwudi44:

Young man you are deluded,Mary carried Jesus PHYS0iCALLY in her womb and not just that she is also the source of his human life.His flesh and blood were sourced from Mary

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point of correction Sir,our Lord Jesus was born not of the flesh,nor the will of a man or of blood,He was born of God..Jhn1:13.

i.chuka:
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point of correction Sir,our Lord Jesus was born not of the flesh,nor the will of a man or of blood,He was born of God..Jhn1:13.

Okay then just answer this simple questions

1.Did Jesus have flesh and blood

2 If your answer is yes what is the source of his humanity (flesh and blood )

Even a medical doctor can ascertain to the fact that the sperm of a man constitute the blood/flesh of a child in the womb of a woman.

i.chuka:
Even a medical doctor can ascertain to the fact that the sperm of a man constitute the blood/flesh of a child in the womb of a woman.

This is ridiculous !!! Wonders shall never end.So by these statement you are implying the holy spirit deposited semen into the womb of Mary to get her pregnant?I can't believe people can get to these ridiculous extent all in an attempt to belittle the role of the Virgin Mary in the incarnation.Does the holy spirit have flesh or semen? How on earth do you reason?

Even for normal uman conception,the child formed is as a result of the comming together of the male sperm and female ova.The child cannot be formed from the sperm alone without the ova.The mother is still involved in the conception process and the child will end up inheriting traits from both parents.

Jesus christ is composed of 2 natures

1.Divine nature which have always existed from the begining.

2.Human nature_which was sourced from the Virgin Mary in the course of the incarnation

i.chuka:
Even a medical doctor can ascertain to the fact that the sperm of a man constitute the blood/flesh of a child in the womb of a woman.

This is ridiculous !!! Wonders shall never end.So by these statement you are implying the holy spirit deposited semen into the womb of Mary to get her pregnant?I can't believe people can get to these ridiculous extent all in an attempt to belittle the role of the Virgin Mary in the incarnation.Does the holy spirit have flesh or semen? How on earth do you reason?

Even for normal uman conception,the child formed is as a result of the comming together of the male sperm and female ova.The child cannot be formed from the sperm alone without the ova.The mother is still involved in the conception process and the child will end up inheriting traits from both parents.

Jesus christ is composed of 2 natures

1.Divine nature which have always existed from the begining.

2.Human nature_which was sourced from the Virgin Mary in the course of the incarnation