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Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by lekkie073(m): 11:39am On Apr 17, 2012
the exisence of God is not factual since no one can physically see him. Ask religioners where heaven is and they unconsciously point to the sky. Scientists wanted to prove it so they decide to send astronauts. Guess what they found? Other planets....
If heaven is up then,pluto might be closer to it then.....
Also ask them where hell is and they point to the ground.....the same ground they will be buried when they die.....that is to say everybody is going to hell since hell is under the ground and thats where u and i will be buried. QED!
Religion is a prison or cage or a blindfold as the case may be
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by nyameke: 2:43pm On Apr 17, 2012
mkmyers45: What the bleep? Is it YHWY OR YHWH? You are definitely confused...
its YHWH..common sense would tell you its a typo... The essence of the message is what matters not typo errors..
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by oncode1: 3:54pm On Apr 17, 2012
You atheleptic people make me laugh, i love reasoning with you, i have few of you as friends here, we argue a lot, so one day i invited them to my house, brought out my weed tray, we all sat down and roll up our joints, hit the bong with our spark and starts blazzzzing........10 minutes later, i asked a question and believe me, you don't want to know the rest of that story, one of them almost got mad where him dey try reason answer for where answer no dey grin..........no be small thing ohh.

Anyway, i have a question, am high right now, so i need something to make me laugh cos y'all are funny people. "If you really do not believe in God, what do you believe you cos you gat to believe in something to explain your own existence and if you do not believe in anything, explain your own existence, what or who created you, how did you come into existence" AND PLEASE ENOUGH OF THE BIG WORDS, YOU GUYS ALWAYS START EXPLAINING WITH WORDS SOMEONE CAN UNDERSTAND AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU START CONFUSING YOURSELF, WHO IS FOOLING WHO?, IF POSSIBLE, EXPLAIN AM FOR PIDGIN ENGLISH SO EVERYBODY GO FIT UNDERSTAND AM.

NOTE: Am not a religious person, am simply a spiritual person following JESUS CHRIST, not your average Christian or spiritual person, a highly spiritual person, i have personally asked for God for some spiritual shit and believe me you, i got some shit.

Waiting for my answer, abeg no forget to explain in simple oyibo english or naija ingrish....GOD BLESS YOU!

THE ONLY TIME I WILL BELIEVE SCIENCE OR IN SCIENCE IS WHEN THEY CREATE A LIFE HUMAN BEING, NOT ROBOTS, NO, A BREATHING, SUCKING, WALKING, GROWING, FUCKING, MARRYING, HAVING KIDS, GETTING OLD AND DIE HUMAN BEING, then i will believe whatever crap they say, do you want to know where scientist get their inspiration from? SPIRITUALITY.......those who have wisdom to decode what is happening in this bleeped up planet should read this and apply it to everything mankind has created trying to make himself equal with GOD.

And these also stagger from wine
and reel from beer:
Priests and prophets stagger from beer
and are befuddled with wine;
they reel from beer,
they stagger when seeing visions,
they stumble when rendering decisions.
All the tables are covered with vomit
and there is not a spot without filth.

“Who is it he is trying to teach?
To whom is he explaining his message?
To children weaned from their milk,
to those just taken from the breast?
For it is:
Do this, do that,
a rule for this, a rule for that[a];
a little here, a little there.”

Very well then, with foreign lips and strange tongues
God will speak to this people,
to whom he said,
“This is the resting place, let the weary rest”;
and, “This is the place of repose”—
but they would not listen.
So then, the word of the LORD to them will become:
Do this, do that,
a rule for this, a rule for that;
a little here, a little there—
so that as they go they will fall backward;
they will be injured and snared and captured....................Isaiah 28


Whenever you read the bible or any good spiritual book, compare it to everything around you and ask God to open those blind eyes.



Pray not to be judged by your mistake but my your heart............Mankind (you and me) Judge by mistake, while God judge by Heart. Person way say him get ear, make him hear!

Its all about SPIRITUALITY baby, THE SPIRITUAL, CONTROLS THE PHYSICAL............................. grin
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by oncode1: 4:15pm On Apr 17, 2012
I STILL DEY WAIT FOR MY ANSWERS OHHHHHH
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by logicboy: 4:29pm On Apr 17, 2012
My answer was largely ignored




logicboy: Intelligent design has been debunked

1) Adaptation. If we were intelligently designed to live in this world, why do human beings and every other animal need to adapt to their environment? 70% of the world is water in which we can not live in. We live in a world destined to kill us. Every day, our immune system fights off germs and bacteria but it continually fails us periodically when we get sick. When a car is built, is it not designed to withstand it's environment? Right from birth we fail at withstanding our environment. We are vulnerable as babies. Without our parents putting us in a clean environment, we are as good as dead.

2)Many things happen by chance. The first idea for a car or motion could have been a rolling boulder or stone from a mountain. What about fulgurite (glass made naturally from lightening and sand)? For glass to be made out of sand and lightening, there has to be a lot of conditions present and yet, there was no intelligent designer. What about caves? An earthquake could create a cave that could be used as shelter and yet no intelligent designer. The world is random and random variables can create a beautiful thing.

Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by ea7(m): 4:30pm On Apr 17, 2012
on-code:
I STILL DEY WAIT FOR MY ANSWERS OHHHHHH
the reason your friends got angry might have been because of a. the nature of your question or b. Your attitude in presenting it.
A. The question is absurd and you know it, putting words related to each othe and adding a ? Does not a question make.
B. You might want to read this www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/atrocities.html. It might do you a little good.
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by nyameke: 4:34pm On Apr 17, 2012
all4naija: In the first case it is YHWH not YHWY!Silly religionist! The origin of the word according to the Hebrew text to be the name of god is very questionable yet the name for some reason of fear of profanity people using it were required to pronounce it during recitation by adding the vowel sounds to the consonants to form the name, which was claimed to be the real pronunciation and the name of god - and, was lost along the line that nobody knows how it sounded till today(Fairy tale along the line). Not only that most of the Hebrew texts were written without vowel sounds but being another excuse added to the story.


You can Google on the origin of the name or visit this link too :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh


Stop to think and face reality,dude. It might be hard for you to believe in reality but life we know it to be is reality. If you want to face life with what it is - you better start facing reality and stop letting emotions, sentiments and ignorance becloud your perceptions.
.
Bullsh*t . The name is questionable according to which school of thought? The atheists? The name YHWH appears 7000 times in the scriptures ..it is English translators of the modern bible that omitted it and replaced it with God or Lord..just like they replaced Yahshua with Jesus..

You re the one who needs to face reality and wake up son..I'm awake and using my mind to think and reason and seek the truth... You on the other hand is lost...gnorance has blinded you to the truth..
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by Kay17: 4:48pm On Apr 17, 2012
Seriously?! You reason? By accepting that snakes talk, that two ppl populated a earth with 7 billion, that donkeys talk and that the Sun stood still?!

If the almighty perfect omnipotent creator in an empty arena creates, why is design necessary?
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by oncode1: 4:48pm On Apr 17, 2012
always putting up link, read this read that, watch this, watch that, I want you to use things around me to explain, things we experience everyday...........Am waiting
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by stokolie(m): 5:36pm On Apr 17, 2012
TAKE TIME TO READ. It's worth
reading it. Trust me smiley
Professor : You are a Christian,
aren’t you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
... Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?
Student : Yes.
Professor: My brother died of
cancer even though he prayed to
GOD to heal him. Most of us would
attempt to help others who are ill.
But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD
good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent.)
Professor: You can’t answer, can
you ? Let’s start again, young fella.
Is GOD good?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Is satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor: Where does satan
come from ?
Student : From … GOD …
Professor: That’s right. Tell me
son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t
it ? And GOD did make everything.
Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor: So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer.)
Professor: Is there sickness?
Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All
these terrible things exist in the
world, don’t they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, who created them ?
(Student had no answer.)
Professor: Science says you have 5
Senses you use to identify and
observe the world around you.
Tell me, son, have you ever seen
GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor: Tell us if you have ever
heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your
GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your
GOD? Have you ever had any
sensory perception of GOD for
that matter?
Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I
haven’t.
Professor: Yet you still believe in
Him?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical,
Testable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says your GOD doesn’t
exist. What do you say to that,
son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my
faith.
Professor: Yes, faith. And that is
the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such
a thing as heat?
Professor: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing
as cold?
Professor: Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture theatre became very
quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of
heat, even more heat, superheat,
mega heat, white heat, a little heat
or no heat. But we don’t have
anything called cold. We can hit
458 degrees below zero which is
no heat, but we can’t go any
further after that. There is no such
thing as cold. Cold is only a word
we use to describe the absence of
heat. We cannot measure cold.
Heat is energy. Cold is not the
opposite of heat, sir, just the
absence of it.
(There was pin-drop silence in the
lecture theater.)
Student : What about darkness,
Professor? Is there such a thing
as darkness?
Professor: Yes. What is night if
there isn’t darkness?
Student : You’re wrong again, sir.
Darkness is the absence of
something. You can have low
light, normal light, bright light,
flashing light. But if you have no
light constantly, you have nothing
and its called darkness, isn’t it? In
reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, were
you would be able to make
darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Professor: So what is the point
you are making, young man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your
philosophical premise is flawed.
Professor: Flawed ? Can you
explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on
the premise of duality. You argue
there is life and then there is
death, a good GOD and a bad GOD.
You are viewing the concept of
GOD as something finite,
something we can measure. Sir,
Science can’t even explain a
thought. It uses electricity and
magnetism, but has never seen,
much less fully understood either
one. To view death as the
opposite of life is to be ignorant
of the fact that death cannot exist
as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life:
just the absence of it. Now tell me,
Professor, do you teach your
students that they evolved from a
monkey?
Professor: If you are referring to
the natural evolutionary process,
yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed
evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head
with a smile, beginning to realize
where the argument was going.)
Student : Since no one has ever
observed the process of evolution
at work and cannot even prove
that this process is an on-going
endeavor. Are you not teaching
your opinion, sir? Are you not a
scientist but a preacher?
(The class was in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the
class who has ever seen the
Professor’s brain?
(The class broke out into
laughter. )
Student : Is there anyone here
who has ever heard the
Professor’s brain, felt it, touched
or smelt it? No one appears to
have done so. So, according to the
established Rules of Empirical,
Stable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says that you have no
brain, sir. With all due respect, sir,
how do we then trust your
lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The
Professor stared at the student,
his face unfathomable.)
Professor: I guess you’ll have to
take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir … Exactly !
The link between man & GOD is
FAITH. That is all that keeps things
alive and moving.
P.S.
I believe you have enjoyed the
conversation. And if so, you’ll
probably want your friends /
colleagues to enjoy the same,
won’t you?
Forward this to increase their
knowledge … or FAITH.
By the way, that student was
EINSTEIN.
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by yommy2sure(m): 5:46pm On Apr 17, 2012
Kay 17: @yommy

IF a theist defines his God as a being that exist and that doesn't exist. In your opinion is there any concept?
dont get you, why will a theist say his God exist and then say he doesnt exist?
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by oncode1: 5:52pm On Apr 17, 2012
st.okolie:
TAKE TIME TO READ. It's worth
reading it. Trust me smiley
Professor : You are a Christian,
aren’t you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
... Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?
Student : Yes.
Professor: My brother died of
cancer even though he prayed to
GOD to heal him. Most of us would
attempt to help others who are ill.
But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD
good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent.)
Professor: You can’t answer, can
you ? Let’s start again, young fella.
Is GOD good?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Is satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor: Where does satan
come from ?
Student : From … GOD …
Professor: That’s right. Tell me
son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t
it ? And GOD did make everything.
Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor: So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer.)
Professor: Is there sickness?
Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All
these terrible things exist in the
world, don’t they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, who created them ?
(Student had no answer.)
Professor: Science says you have 5
Senses you use to identify and
observe the world around you.
Tell me, son, have you ever seen
GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor: Tell us if you have ever
heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your
GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your
GOD? Have you ever had any
sensory perception of GOD for
that matter?
Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I
haven’t.
Professor: Yet you still believe in
Him?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical,
Testable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says your GOD doesn’t
exist. What do you say to that,
son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my
faith.
Professor: Yes, faith. And that is
the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such
a thing as heat?
Professor: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing
as cold?
Professor: Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture theatre became very
quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of
heat, even more heat, superheat,
mega heat, white heat, a little heat
or no heat. But we don’t have
anything called cold. We can hit
458 degrees below zero which is
no heat, but we can’t go any
further after that. There is no such
thing as cold. Cold is only a word
we use to describe the absence of
heat. We cannot measure cold.
Heat is energy. Cold is not the
opposite of heat, sir, just the
absence of it.
(There was pin-drop silence in the
lecture theater.)
Student : What about darkness,
Professor? Is there such a thing
as darkness?
Professor: Yes. What is night if
there isn’t darkness?
Student : You’re wrong again, sir.
Darkness is the absence of
something. You can have low
light, normal light, bright light,
flashing light. But if you have no
light constantly, you have nothing
and its called darkness, isn’t it? In
reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, were
you would be able to make
darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Professor: So what is the point
you are making, young man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your
philosophical premise is flawed.
Professor: Flawed ? Can you
explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on
the premise of duality. You argue
there is life and then there is
death, a good GOD and a bad GOD.
You are viewing the concept of
GOD as something finite,
something we can measure. Sir,
Science can’t even explain a
thought. It uses electricity and
magnetism, but has never seen,
much less fully understood either
one. To view death as the
opposite of life is to be ignorant
of the fact that death cannot exist
as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life:
just the absence of it. Now tell me,
Professor, do you teach your
students that they evolved from a
monkey?
Professor: If you are referring to
the natural evolutionary process,
yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed
evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head
with a smile, beginning to realize
where the argument was going.)
Student : Since no one has ever
observed the process of evolution
at work and cannot even prove
that this process is an on-going
endeavor. Are you not teaching
your opinion, sir? Are you not a
scientist but a preacher?
(The class was in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the
class who has ever seen the
Professor’s brain?
(The class broke out into
laughter. )
Student : Is there anyone here
who has ever heard the
Professor’s brain, felt it, touched
or smelt it? No one appears to
have done so. So, according to the
established Rules of Empirical,
Stable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says that you have no
brain, sir. With all due respect, sir,
how do we then trust your
lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The
Professor stared at the student,
his face unfathomable.)
Professor: I guess you’ll have to
take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir … Exactly !
The link between man & GOD is
FAITH. That is all that keeps things
alive and moving.
P.S.
I believe you have enjoyed the
conversation. And if so, you’ll
probably want your friends /
colleagues to enjoy the same,
won’t you?
Forward this to increase their
knowledge … or FAITH.
By the way, that student was
EINSTEIN.

I have taking my time to read your post, can you also take your time to read mine?

You atheleptic people make me laugh, i love reasoning with you, i have few of you as friends here, we argue a lot, so one day i invited them to my house, brought out my weed tray, we all sat down and roll up our joints, hit the bong with our spark and starts blazzzzing........10 minutes later, i asked a question and believe me, you don't want to know the rest of that story, one of them almost got mad where him dey try reason answer for where answer no dey ..........no be small thing ohh.

Anyway, i have a question, am high right now, so i need something to make me laugh cos y'all are funny people. "If you really do not believe in God, what do you believe you cos you gat to believe in something to explain your own existence and if you do not believe in anything, explain your own existence, what or who created you, how did you come into existence" AND PLEASE ENOUGH OF THE BIG WORDS, YOU GUYS ALWAYS START EXPLAINING WITH WORDS SOMEONE CAN UNDERSTAND AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU START CONFUSING YOURSELF, WHO IS FOOLING WHO?, IF POSSIBLE, EXPLAIN AM FOR PIDGIN ENGLISH SO EVERYBODY GO FIT UNDERSTAND AM.

NOTE: Am not a religious person, am simply a spiritual person following JESUS CHRIST, not your average Christian or spiritual person, a highly spiritual person, i have personally asked for God for some spiritual poo and believe me you, i got some poo.

Waiting for my answer, abeg no forget to explain in simple oyibo english or naija ingrish....GOD BLESS YOU!

THE ONLY TIME I WILL BELIEVE SCIENCE OR IN SCIENCE IS WHEN THEY CREATE A LIFE HUMAN BEING, NOT ROBOTS, NO, A BREATHING, SUCKING, WALKING, GROWING, bleeping, MARRYING, HAVING KIDS, GETTING OLD AND DIE HUMAN BEING, then i will believe whatever crap they say, do you want to know where scientist get their inspiration from? SPIRITUALITY.......those who have wisdom to decode what is happening in this bleeped up planet should read this and apply it to everything mankind has created trying to make himself equal with GOD.

And these also stagger from wine
and reel from beer:
Priests and prophets stagger from beer
and are befuddled with wine;
they reel from beer,
they stagger when seeing visions,
they stumble when rendering decisions.
All the tables are covered with vomit
and there is not a spot without filth.

“Who is it he is trying to teach?
To whom is he explaining his message?
To children weaned from their milk,
to those just taken from the bosom?
For it is:
Do this, do that,
a rule for this, a rule for that[a];
a little here, a little there.”

Very well then, with foreign lips and strange tongues
God will speak to this people,
to whom he said,
“This is the resting place, let the weary rest”;
and, “This is the place of repose”—
but they would not listen.
So then, the word of the LORD to them will become:
Do this, do that,
a rule for this, a rule for that;
a little here, a little there—
so that as they go they will fall backward;
they will be injured and snared and captured....................Isaiah 28

Whenever you read the bible or any good spiritual book, compare it to everything around you and ask God to open those blind eyes.



Pray not to be judged by your mistake but my your heart............Mankind (you and me) Judge by mistake, while God judge by Heart. Person way say him get ear, make him hear!

Its all about SPIRITUALITY baby, THE SPIRITUAL, CONTROLS THE PHYSICAL.............................
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by oncode1: 5:57pm On Apr 17, 2012
[size=8pt]The problem with mankind and atheleptics is that they read but don't understand, they hear but do not listen, their eyes is wild open, but they see not. the issue of God and the mystery of the universe cannot be explained, you know why? because none of us were there when it all went down. those that wanted to know found out from the wrong source and those that also wanted to know simply asked and they got the answer..............Ask son, and it shall be given unto you.....ASK, ASK.

AM OUT.!
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Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by oncode1: 5:58pm On Apr 17, 2012
NOTE: SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT DOES NOT EXIST....................take note!

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Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by oncode1: 6:05pm On Apr 17, 2012
NOTE: SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN IT DOES NOT EXIST....................take note!

For the record, Next time when you try to explain something like this to someone, make sure 90% of the explanation is your own personal opinion, not some Poo a crack head cocked up......Watch what you believe in and watch who you follow, A BLIND MAN CAN NOT LEAD ANOTHER BLIND MAN. When mankind say "IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND, THE ONE EYED MAN IS KIND" what do you think they were talking about?.....Mankind is blind and they have accepted the one eyed man to be their KING, but not ME.

Physically, there are mistakes, but Spiritually, there are no mistake, that is why mankind judge you by your mistake and God (who know that there are no mistake) judge you by your heart. just think about what i wrote above, don't be in a hast to reply, read it and let it digest, if you are reading a book just to look for leap holes and errors, guess what, you will find plenty of that, but if you are reading to learn and grown both physically and spiritually, guess what too, you will get that......just food for thought.............ADVICE NO BE CAUSE.

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Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by yommy2sure(m): 6:12pm On Apr 17, 2012
@st.okorie thanks for puting up that stuff about eistein as a student. They ask did God create evil? Did he create sickness...whereby the defination of those words lie in their opposite...if there's no evil how do u define good, if theres no sickness how do u define good health. There are many things we might not know yet but to say becos there is no proof God doesnt exist is the samething as saying he exist but I cant prove it. Are you omniscient, do you know if he/she/it is in my bedroom? Just say i dont know yet. Simple

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Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by stokolie(m): 6:31pm On Apr 17, 2012
at anytime when science cannot comprehend something it fall backs to assumptions and most often it is the same assumptions that atheist use to explain away the ignorance.beside there are alot of activities of this presnt days that science has no answer to.dont forget Jesus said 'if you cannot understand the things happening here on earth how then can you understand that which is of heaven.

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Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by LogicMind: 7:08pm On Apr 17, 2012
st.okolie:
at anytime when science cannot comprehend something it fall backs to assumptions and most often it is the same assumptions that atheist use to explain away the ignorance.beside there are alot of activities of this presnt days that science has no answer to.dont forget Jesus said 'if you cannot understand the things happening here on earth how then can you understand that which is of heaven.

and the pope said 'if you don't understand heaven, how can you understand pugatory?'
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by ea7(m): 7:12pm On Apr 17, 2012
did any of you christards bother to read the link?
Btw that einstein one is a debunked urban legend, and einsterin was not a god beleiver.
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by nyameke: 7:43pm On Apr 17, 2012
Btw on another thread somebody asked why God created evil and good if he is all perfect ...
Well here is your answer...

Good and evil does not exist. At a fundamental level, there is really no good and evil in the universe. Everything just is. It is perception that frames reality. Good and evil is based on perception. Thereforethe perception of good and evil depends on the one perceiving it. If you perceive something as good, then to you it is good. If you perceive something as evil, then to you it is evil. We can choose our own frame of reality or we can choose to follow the frame set by another in his perception of good and evil.

In war every one thinks they are doing good..Terrorists like boko harm and alqueda blow up people and do harm not because they think its evil..to them they are doing the greatest good to Allah.. everything is perception

Good and evil is a judgment. To consider something better than worse than is a judgment. Evil is something of inferior quality compared to something better, so therefore a lesser good is considered evil when compared with a greater good..
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by Kay17: 7:52pm On Apr 17, 2012
yommy2sure: dont get you, why will a theist say his God exist and then say he doesnt exist?
If a theist's definition of his God is contradictory or irrational, its a bad concept which can't survive in reality
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by ea7(m): 9:21pm On Apr 17, 2012
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_falling. See why intelligent design is retarded.
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by DoctorMcgruff: 10:55pm On Apr 17, 2012
logicboy:


You can try and force the bible into reality but you will always fail. The bible is a fairytale. It is about (not counting the 5 creation days before) 6,000 years from Adam to our current generation (historians have added up the time). The earliest fossils are 195,000 years old. The bible is a lie

clearly the historians have been at flaw, not those who wrote the Bible,and it is 6000 years from when christ lived not adam...ignorance
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by logicboy: 11:05pm On Apr 17, 2012
DoctorMcgruff:

clearly the historians have been at flaw, not those who wrote the Bible,and it is 6000 years from when christ lived not adam...ignorance


You should be ashamed!

Adam to Abraham = 2000 years. Abraham lived around 2000bc (4000 years ago). 4000 + 2000 = 6000.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2007/05/30/how-old-is-earth
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by DoctorMcgruff: 11:12pm On Apr 17, 2012
logicboy:


You should be ashamed!

Adam to Abraham = 2000 years. Abraham lived around 2000bc (4000 years ago). 4000 + 2000 = 6000.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2007/05/30/how-old-is-earth

At the end of the day its an estimate not a fact, nowhere in the Bible does it mention the age of the earth or when the earth began also let me remind you that in the bible it does say "“[B]eloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day"

Now this is not to say that 1 day is exactley a thousand years but rather God transcends time, so the whole idea of the earth being created in a Literal Week is challenged, their lies the possibility the earth is MUCH older than 6000 years
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by logicboy: 11:20pm On Apr 17, 2012
DoctorMcgruff:

At the end of the day its an estimate not a fact, nowhere in the Bible does it mention the age of the earth or when the earth began also let me remind you that in the bible it does say "“[B]eloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day"

Now this is not to say that 1 day is exactley a thousand years but rather God transcends time, so the whole idea of the earth being created in a Literal Week is challenged, their lies the possibility the earth is MUCH older than 6000 years

Irrelevant. They counted the time from which Adam was made- 6,000 years. Adam could not have lived for a 1000 years.
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by Nobody: 8:57pm On Apr 18, 2012
on-code:
You atheleptic people make me laugh, i love reasoning with you, i have few of you as friends here, we argue a lot, so one day i invited them to my house, brought out my weed tray, we all sat down and roll up our joints, hit the bong with our spark and starts blazzzzing........10 minutes later, i asked a question and believe me, you don't want to know the rest of that story, one of them almost got mad where him dey try reason answer for where answer no dey grin..........no be small thing ohh.

Anyway, i have a question, am high right now, so i need something to make me laugh cos y'all are funny people. "If you really do not believe in God, what do you believe you cos you gat to believe in something to explain your own existence and if you do not believe in anything, explain your own existence, what or who created you, how did you come into existence" AND PLEASE ENOUGH OF THE BIG WORDS, YOU GUYS ALWAYS START EXPLAINING WITH WORDS SOMEONE CAN UNDERSTAND AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU START CONFUSING YOURSELF, WHO IS FOOLING WHO?, IF POSSIBLE, EXPLAIN AM FOR PIDGIN ENGLISH SO EVERYBODY GO FIT UNDERSTAND AM.

NOTE: Am not a religious person, am simply a spiritual person following JESUS CHRIST, not your average Christian or spiritual person, a highly spiritual person, i have personally asked for God for some spiritual shit and believe me you, i got some shit.

Waiting for my answer, abeg no forget to explain in simple oyibo english or naija ingrish....GOD BLESS YOU!

THE ONLY TIME I WILL BELIEVE SCIENCE OR IN SCIENCE IS WHEN THEY CREATE A LIFE HUMAN BEING, NOT ROBOTS, NO, A BREATHING, SUCKING, WALKING, GROWING, FUCKING, MARRYING, HAVING KIDS, GETTING OLD AND DIE HUMAN BEING, then i will believe whatever crap they say, do you want to know where scientist get their inspiration from? SPIRITUALITY.......those who have wisdom to decode what is happening in this bleeped up planet should read this and apply it to everything mankind has created trying to make himself equal with GOD.

And these also stagger from wine
and reel from beer:
Priests and prophets stagger from beer
and are befuddled with wine;
they reel from beer,
they stagger when seeing visions,
they stumble when rendering decisions.
All the tables are covered with vomit
and there is not a spot without filth.

“Who is it he is trying to teach?
To whom is he explaining his message?
To children weaned from their milk,
to those just taken from the breast?
For it is:
Do this, do that,
a rule for this, a rule for that[a];
a little here, a little there.”

Very well then, with foreign lips and strange tongues
God will speak to this people,
to whom he said,
“This is the resting place, let the weary rest”;
and, “This is the place of repose”—
but they would not listen.
So then, the word of the LORD to them will become:
Do this, do that,
a rule for this, a rule for that;
a little here, a little there—
so that as they go they will fall backward;
they will be injured and snared and captured....................Isaiah 28


Whenever you read the bible or any good spiritual book, compare it to everything around you and ask God to open those blind eyes.



Pray not to be judged by your mistake but my your heart............Mankind (you and me) Judge by mistake, while God judge by Heart. Person way say him get ear, make him hear!

Its all about SPIRITUALITY baby, THE SPIRITUAL, CONTROLS THE PHYSICAL............................. grin
I believe in existence and I can point to it as real and felt. God is out of the picture, and if it(god) which is abstract in any sense seem real to you then prove it. I can testify to the fact that nature is more encompassing that the abstract being thought by religionists and Theists to be the originator of everything. Quoting from their unreasonable books make one quickly conclude on the premise that it(their god) is limited, after taking a closer look at what are taking place in nature. Please, spare you health of your high smoke. It would do you good to be reasonable than speaking from the eyes of weed.
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by oncode1: 1:37pm On Apr 26, 2012
all4naija: I believe in existence and I can point to it as real and felt. God is out of the picture, and if it(god) which is abstract in any sense seem real to you then prove it. I can testify to the fact that nature is more encompassing that the abstract being thought by religionists and Theists to be the originator of everything. Quoting from their unreasonable books make one quickly conclude on the premise that it(their god) is limited, after taking a closer look at what are taking place in nature. Please, spare you health of your high smoke. It would do you good to be reasonable than speaking from the eyes of weed.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH grin grin
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by ea7(m): 4:21pm On Apr 26, 2012
to that 'einstein post'(if your beLIEf is true do you have to lie on einstein). If i were to kill your mother and steal your money, she is just experiencing an absence of life and you one of money. Playing with words does not change reality. And also I do not see trees grow, therefore they do not (c wut i did there), also light is a reaction of our eye to photons and darkness is just a word we apply o it..
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by oncode1: 8:42pm On Apr 26, 2012
A little advice to Atheists, NEVER MISS-UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND......SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN SOMETHING, DOESN'T MEAN ITS NOT REAL!
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by Nobody: 9:46pm On Apr 26, 2012
wow! This will neva end. Me i chose to believe in God..It's a matter of choice, do whateva suits you...tried the no spirituality tin and i felt like an animal..you dnt believe in a supreme being, but believe in whatever science cooks up, then science is your god..i dont tink any atheist here has carried out any experiments for themselves to prove evolution or whateva u believe in...science has failed one too many times, thats why they keep revising what they have done and continue to make modifications..i refuse to put my absolute trust in it ..and i realized that most of diseases we suffer from today is actually d product of our so called advancement in technology..
Re: How Do Atheists Explain The Existense Of Intelligent Designs? by mkmyers45(m): 10:03pm On Apr 26, 2012
tgirl1986: wow! This will neva end. Me i chose to believe in God..It's a matter of choice, do whateva suits you...tried the no spirituality tin and i felt like an animal..you dnt believe in a supreme being, but believe in whatever science cooks up, then science is your god..i dont tink any atheist here has carried out any experiments for themselves to prove evolution or whateva u believe in...science has failed one too many times, thats why they keep revising what they have done and continue to make modifications..i refuse to put my absolute trust in it ..and i realized that most of diseases we suffer from today is actually d product of our so called advancement in technology..
which disease r u talking about? your mobile phone?

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