Okija_juju:

SO!!

Just because a few people a weak/light-headed lets now LIE and say drinking and smoking is a sin when the bible hasnt said so?! He didnt encourage it. . . Get the facts right. . . He only said it isnt a sin in itself, but over doing it is. . Drinking is not a sin, but drunkeness is. .

Not father would want their kids smoking and drinking, but that still dosent make it a sin. . . Do not add to the bible. . Revelations!!

The man spkoe without bias or fear. . I respect that.

ogbori:

who be this? Did you see anything like smoking na sin in what i wrote. HIS STATEMENT IS BOUND TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO TAKE THEM, AND WHEN THEY DO, HOW MANY CAN CONTROL IT. FOR A LEADER, PASTOR, FATHER, OR ONE WITH SOME LEVEL OR MORAL, YOU DONT NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE INTO AREA THAT MIGHT HURT THEM. THATS WHY PROHPRT (LEVITE) AND KINGS ARE ADVISED TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE THEY ARE ROLE MODEL AND ARE LIKELY TO MESS UP LIKE LOT.

rastamouse:

My brother you are getting ridiculous. Are you telling me that the being is made up of only the body? I can tell you for a fact that GOD only know you by your soul that is why HE speaks to your soul. The fact that Elijah didn't die doesn't mean Elizabeth had to carry the old man in her belly. The spirit is what is important.

Before Abraham, JESUS was...does that mean Mary gave birth to a child thousands of years old? Please show some maturity in the discussion...I will be glad to also learn from you

toorich:

Read John 1:19-20 and know who John said he is

So U̶̲̥̅̊ think God reincarnate people? That's so wrong!
who did Elijah enter Zechariah or Elizabeth or did he jump from space?
The bible has said something about the return of Elijah in the book of Revelation, U̶̲̥̅̊ can google it.

Correct your assumption, Jesus said before Abraham "I AM" he didn't say "I was" and he didn't make A̶̲̥̅̊‎ grammatical blunder(go and read it again), he knew exactly what he meant and he wasn't talking about his years of existence. So your point don't count on that scripture. Well if you care to knw what he meant you can ask politely and I'll tell you.

numo86: Is this post authentic??
If it is then its like chris needs some bible lessons...
Soon people can even smoke inside his church..
All this is just to drag more crazy fellows to his church...no discipline!!!!

numo86:
Since pounded yam is legal, how many people have you seen eating pounded yam in the middle of service. People just like to open their mouths and spew babash. And oh @Goshen360, the early church used alcohol for their Holy Communion-1Cor11:21. Read first then come and talk. Some people are really more holy than the Christ Himself, He should be praying to you lot for the forgiveness of His 'sins' should He ever commit any.

rastamouse:

Well it is clear this is not in your league. This discussion is over because you are not matured enough to understand what is being discussed here.

Cya

rastamouse:

Well it is clear this is not in your league. This discussion is over because you are not matured enough to understand what is being discussed here.

Cya

ogbori:

who be this? Did you see anything like smoking na sin in what i wrote. HIS STATEMENT IS BOUND TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO TAKE THEM, AND WHEN THEY DO, HOW MANY CAN CONTROL IT. FOR A LEADER, PASTOR, FATHER, OR ONE WITH SOME LEVEL OR MORAL, YOU DONT NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE INTO AREA THAT MIGHT HURT THEM. THATS WHY PROHPRT (LEVITE) AND KINGS ARE ADVISED TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE THEY ARE ROLE MODEL AND ARE LIKELY TO MESS UP LIKE LOT.

Fobrown: pastor chris! i think you dont really have the knowledge of the bible because your interpretation is always misleading.

ogbori:

who be this? Did you see anything like smoking na sin in what i wrote. HIS STATEMENT IS BOUND TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO TAKE THEM, AND WHEN THEY DO, HOW MANY CAN CONTROL IT. FOR A LEADER, PASTOR, FATHER, OR ONE WITH SOME LEVEL OR MORAL, YOU DONT NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE INTO AREA THAT MIGHT HURT THEM. THATS WHY PROHPRT (LEVITE) AND KINGS ARE ADVISED TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE THEY ARE ROLE MODEL AND ARE LIKELY TO MESS UP LIKE LOT.

eyenCalabar:

Mehn, the TRUTH has to be told first and that's exactly what Pst. Chris did. If u like drink and smooth because it not a sin if u don't shun.

tee83: Anything that you take and drink which will change the state of mind is not good.It may lead you to ungodly behaviours

afam4eva:

Do you know that too much of water makes you drunk. Does that mean drinking water is a sin?

Freksy: Is cigarette smoking dangerous to health? Is it good for those who sincerely want to fashion their lives after that of Jesus to deliberately engage in things that would adversely affect their lives? If you were the life giver, how would you feel seeing people indulging in things that are detrimental to life? Or are we saying it does not matter to the lifegiver the way we live our lives? If there were cigarettes in time of Jesus, would he or any of his disciples smoke? If we claim it's not a sin to smoke because the bible does not expressly say: " Thou shall not smoke", is there any law prohibiting a child from peeping while the parents are making love? If your neighbor pour acid on you just for the fun of it would it be a sin? Remember, no scripture says: thou shall not pour acid on his neighbor.

Interestingly, the giver of life has given us all the guides we need for healthy and successful living. The scripture contain all these in various forms. Compare 2Tim 3:16,17.
1. In form of stated laws such as the ten commandment and the precepts.
2. In form of object lessons from the bible stories of individual who lived in bible times.
3. Finally, in form of bible principles upon which our Christian conducts are based. For instance, watching of pornography and peeping on unclothedness of others are clear violation of the bible principle found at Psm. 119:37; Matt. 5:28; also, note some things condemn by Paul at Eph. 5:3,4. Lots of unhealthy, unclean and filthy habits one can think of (most of which we do in hidings) are condemned, hence, should not be mentioned in connectionn with Christ followers.

Is Smoking Really Wrong?
"WHY not use tobacco if I enjoy it? If I risk my health, that's my own business." To the millions who find pleasure in smoking, such "logic" is convincing.
Yet, news reports in 1985 blamed smoking for 100,000 deaths a year in Britain, 350,000 a year in the United States, and a third of all deaths in Greece. Common sense suggests that society would not shrug off the moral implications of these figures. But it does. Why?
For one thing, many religious leaders refuse to apply any moral pressure on their flock to stop smoking. The view they take is expressed by the author of a book called The Christian Moral Vision. He sees "no justification for moral pressure" on one who, "having considered the risks . . . [goes on] smoking for the sake of the pleasure it provides." But is this the Bible's viewpoint? Does "pleasure" justify taking needless risks?
No, it does not. Would it not make more sense to try to stay physically and mentally in top shape? For our own good and out of respect for our loved ones and our Creator, the Bible stipulates that we should "cleanse ourselves of every defilement [pollution] of flesh and spirit." (2 Corinthians 7:1; Kingdom Interlinear) Does the harm from tobacco stop at the physical body?
What It Does to Your Life
The tobacco habit can grip you firmly not only physically but also mentally. Aside from polluting one's body, tobacco permeates the whole "spirit" with which tobacco users think, work, and play—the very mood of their daily affairs. A journalist admitted in Reader's Digest: "Without my daily ration of cigarettes, I could not write, eat, sleep, make love or even have fun with my children."
Why does tobacco become so deep-rooted in people's lives, even to the point of causing them to look the other way when facing its ultimate harm—death? Concerning Britain, psychiatrist Judy Greenwood wrote in the Glasgow Herald of January 3, 1985: "If 100,000 people had died from any other preventable cause, . . . it would have provoked a national outrage. . . . But smoking is different . . . This particular social addiction is so ingrained in our culture and commerce . . . that we seem to have developed a blind spot in our national commonsense."
The Spiritual Harm of Addiction
Yes, addiction, not pleasure alone, produces this moral blind spot in the public "spirit" today. And Dr. Richard Pollin, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (U.S.A.), asserts that cigarette smoking is now the most serious and widespread addiction in the world—even worse than heroin.
The Bible's viewpoint has no such blind spots regarding addictive substances that would make us slaves both of a habit and of the men who traffic in the habit: "You were bought with a price; stop becoming slaves of men," states 1 Corinthians 7:23.
Were addictive drugs and herbs common in Bible times? Yes, says Tobacco and Kentucky, citing "the evidence of prehistoric pipes excavated at . . . the Mediterranean Sea and inland in Asia Minor [used in smoking] . . . cannabis (marijuana) and other herbs." In fact, adds the book, "fumigation with, or the inhalation of, the smoke of various substances has been a sacred, healing, or pleasurable practice . . . since time immemorial. . . . As with cannabis and opium, so with tobacco."
According to McClintock and Strong's Cyclopedia, the term "pharmacy" was used "in the early ages of the Christian Church" for the "art of inventing and preparing medicaments to do mischief." What view did the Bible take of such substances and those who trafficked in them?


Alcoholic beverages are readily available in many lands. Is it wrong to partake of them? Drinking wine, beer, or other alcoholic drinks in moderation is not forbidden in the Scriptures. (Psalm 104:15; 1 Timothy 5:23) However, heavy drinking and drunkenness are wrong in God's eyes. (1 Corinthians 5:11-13) Surely you do not want overdrinking to ruin your health and disrupt your family life.—Proverbs 23:20, 21, 29-35.

Image123: Does pastorChris not practice disobedience to things explicitly stated in the Bible, even new testament? He has no right, integrity or understanding to lead/mislead others in such line as things written in the Bible.
Does the Bible say women are not to teach men? Does not pastorChris' wife and other women teach men in church?
Does the Bible say women ought to cover their head while praying or prophesying? Is this view regarded or adhered in pastorChris' church?
Does the Bible say there should be no speaking of tongues without interpretation in church? Does pastorChris obey this?
This three witnesses stand against pastorChris and deny him of a locus standi telling us to not do something BECAUSE it's not written in the Bible.

Emmysteve: The founder and senior pastor of Christ Embassy, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome on Sunday told all who cared to listen that since the Bible does not expressly condemn both Cigarette and Alcohol, then there is nothing wrong with these stuffs.

It all started when a viewer of his television programme wrote in to enquire from the popular pastor if it was wrong for a 'Christian to work in a Cigarette company'.

Below is the response from Pastor Chris:
There is nothing wrong with Cigarette, the Bible doesn’t say anything was wrong with it... I know a lot of people do complain about it because of the relationship attached to it with some sicknesses like cancer...but if they really believe it is wrong why not ban it totally.

It is the same thing when you have Christians working in the Breweries. The Bible doesn’t condemn alcohol. The only reference made to alcohol in the Bible is ‘do not take too much of wine’. So you see these things has to do with the individual state...if they are convince something is not good they should just ban it..."

What do you think about the Pastor’s position? Share your thoughts.

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Emmysteve:
The founder and senior pastor of Christ Embassy, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome on Sunday told all who cared to listen that since the Bible does not expressly condemn both Cigarette and Alcohol, then there is nothing wrong with these stuffs.

It all started when a viewer of his television programme wrote in to enquire from the popular pastor if it was wrong for a 'Christian to work in a Cigarette company'.

Below is the response from Pastor Chris:
There is nothing wrong with Cigarette, the Bible doesn’t say anything was wrong with it... I know a lot of people do complain about it because of the relationship attached to it with some sicknesses like cancer...but if they really believe it is wrong why not ban it totally.

It is the same thing when you have Christians working in the Breweries. The Bible doesn’t condemn alcohol. The only reference made to alcohol in the Bible is ‘do not take too much of wine’. So you see these things has to do with the individual state...if they are convince something is not good they should just ban it..."

What do you think about the Pastor’s position? Share your thoughts.

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