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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:02am On Oct 15, 2018
Ho my God!

Milan are threatening to cancel Bakayokos loan because of "defects in his game".


https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tiemoue-bakayoko-return-chelsea-ac-13415750


Milan boss Gennaro Gattuso has appeared to suggest that Bakayoko, 24, doesn't have the required maturity to play in his midfield.


"Bakayoko has to learn how to get the ball," he said recently.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:47am On Oct 15, 2018
Ibime:
Ho my God!

Milan are threatening to cancel Bakayokos loan because of "defects in his game".


https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tiemoue-bakayoko-return-chelsea-ac-13415750


Milan boss Gennaro Gattuso has appeared to suggest that Bakayoko, 24, doesn't have the required maturity to play in his midfield.


"Bakayoko has to learn how to get the ball," he said recently.

Someone that should be a hair clipper model.

Fabinho is only slightly better though.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:42am On Oct 15, 2018
Passes this season: 5,728 - @ChelseaFC 5,639 - @ManCity 4,772 - @LFC 4,398 - @SpursOfficial 4,329 - @ManUtd
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elampiro(m): 9:26am On Oct 15, 2018
pkasso:
Ogbeni, go siddon. After been enlightened on how the process works, you still come here dey yarn opata. Elampiro, you no know ball!!

Abeg, give me one reason, just one reason why Alves made your almighty FIFPro XI. I dey wait o.


1. Dani Alves had 7 Assists in 2063 minutes played last season. That put him on same Assists per minutes played with Mohammed Salah and almost same with Mbappe. Better than most top number 10s of the world top leagues like David Silva.

2. Dani Alves (47 in 2063 minutes) had better chances created (CC) than Mohammed Salah, Sterling, Sane, Aguero, Kane, Mahrez, Mkhitaryan, Ramsey, Pogba, Firmino, Mane, etc. In his league he is one of the top with Mbappe, Di Maria and about two others above him.

3. Alves featured in whoscored League 1 team of the season.

4. Alves featured in whoscored European (best XI) team of the season.

Do you still think FIFPro is a popularity contest? Do you think now you know more than the professional players?

Sitting down and reading old newspaper at mama akara joint in the morning while chewing stick and reading analysis of Dayokanu which gave you a few knowledge about FIFPro voting does not make you know ball. grin If no be Dayo and Nihilist wey you dey read their posts here, wetin you for know for Fifapro?

You remain the lightweight you are.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adisaowalla: 9:42am On Oct 15, 2018
grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 9:54am On Oct 15, 2018
Elamps de craze grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 10:09am On Oct 15, 2018
Elamps wey dey bring assists stats for defenders. But that's how the world of football is now sha. While defenders are rated by number of assists, some attackers are excused for doing everything aside assisting and scoring goals. Well we thank God for Sarri sha

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elampiro(m): 10:59am On Oct 15, 2018
eph12:
Elamps wey dey bring assists stats for defenders. But that's how the world of football is now sha. While defenders are rated by number of assists, some attackers are excused for doing everything aside assisting and scoring goals. Well we thank God for Sarri sha

His defensive stats was good. His tackles per match was high. His dribble past record was very impressive (meaning opposition hardly got past him in a match). His Champions league record was even better than his league record.

Professional footballers who have no other jobs, no academic stress other than think and live football every minute, are in better position to rate players. When Toure kept coming in FIFApro team B and Vidal coming in 3rd, 4th and 5th teams in the period under review, that couldn't be a coincidence anymore.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:01am On Oct 15, 2018
DEM NO KNOW BALL!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:33am On Oct 15, 2018
Ibime:
Ho my God!

Milan are threatening to cancel Bakayokos loan because of "defects in his game".


https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tiemoue-bakayoko-return-chelsea-ac-13415750


Milan boss Gennaro Gattuso has appeared to suggest that Bakayoko, 24, doesn't have the required maturity to play in his midfield.


"Bakayoko has to learn how to get the ball," he said recently.
He's still better than a bag of beans wink cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:45am On Oct 15, 2018
Unlimited22:

He's still better than a bag of beans wink cheesy

"Bakayoko has to learn how to get the ball"

But Gatusso is a wicked man oh. Translation of the above quote is equivalent to a manager telling his player - YOU NO KNOW BALL!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:21pm On Oct 15, 2018
They want to force Bakayoko to go and do voodoo in his native country. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:06pm On Oct 15, 2018
eph12:
Elamps wey dey bring assists stats for defenders. But that's how the world of football is now sha. While defenders are rated by number of assists, some attackers are excused for doing everything aside assisting and scoring goals. Well we thank God for Sarri sha
hmmm, I feel your pain. like Sanchez abi. such a shame I must say

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:13pm On Oct 15, 2018
“For me, Chelsea is the top club in England, the one that has won the most titles over the last 10 years.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 3:16pm On Oct 15, 2018
airmark:
Langauge? Elruditor.

Oshe, Michael Phelps.

Still better than "stuffs" that is clearly not a typo.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:31pm On Oct 15, 2018
Ibime:


"Bakayoko has to learn how to get the ball"

But Gatusso is a wicked man oh. Translation of the above quote is equivalent to a manager telling his player - YOU NO KNOW BALL!
That guy is a dreadlocked sack of donkey dung.
grin cheesy grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 4:33pm On Oct 15, 2018
BlueAngel444:

hmmm, I feel your pain. like Sanchez abi. such a shame I must say
Is English your first language?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 4:51pm On Oct 15, 2018
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elampiro:



1. Dani Alves had 7 Assists in 2063 minutes played last season. That put him on same Assists per minutes played with Mohammed Salah and almost same with Mbappe. Better than most top number 10s of the world top leagues like David Silva.

2. Dani Alves (47 in 2063 minutes) had better chances created (CC) than Mohammed Salah, Sterling, Sane, Aguero, Kane, Mahrez, Mkhitaryan, Ramsey, Pogba, Firmino, Mane, etc. In his league he is one of the top with Mbappe, Di Maria and about two others above him.

3. Alves featured in whoscored League 1 team of the season.

4. Alves featured in whoscored European (best XI) team of the season.

Do you still think FIFPro is a popularity contest? Do you think now you know more than the professional players?

Sitting down and reading old newspaper at mama akara joint in the morning while chewing stick and reading analysis of Dayokanu which gave you a few knowledge about FIFPro voting does not make you know ball. grin If no be Dayo and Nihilist wey you dey read their posts here, wetin you for know for Fifapro?

You remain the lightweight you are.
A fullback is more likely to bag an assist than score just as a striker is more likely to score than assist, Captain Obvious. Why not just compute their total goal contributions and compare since you are being so dubiously smart?

That's even ignoring the fact that those stats were in a mid-level league as the Ligue One - a league where a goal has a weighted average of 1.5 as to the 2 obtainable in the biggest leagues in Europe when calculating for the Golden Shoe. Will you be so happy if Alves was subjected to such a balanced and efficient metric in recalculating their true value.

Need I point out your attempt to skew the stats in favour of Alves by using the per minutes ratio when the sample sizes are not even close. Ever heard of regression to the mean? You might want to start taking Statistics classes.

Even at that, his stats still pales in comparison to that of Joshua Kimmich, a player who dropped an incredible 6 goals and 27 assists in 2018 alone. 18 big chances, 10 of which translated to assists in the BuLi. A look at their Squawka profiles for their respective leagues and the CL shows who the better player is. I'm even yet to look up that of Walker, Carvajal and Trippier.

Eruditor, will you be so nice to explain the logic behind the created chances bit for Mr Pace n' Pawa?

The CL is undoubtedly the biggest club competition in the world which provides a level field for comparing players who ply their trade in different leagues. So how does Alves fare against Kimmich? 2 goals and no assists for Alves. 4 GLS and 3 assists for Kimmich, including a goal in each leg against perennial champions Real in the semifinals.

Even putting the stats aside, the eye test shows Alves is no longer the beast he once was. His last world class performances were in his last few months at Juve. I'm talking c. April 2017. He got exposed in both legs against Real Madrid last season, even committing an error that led to a goal. Age has caught up with him, which is acceptable.

But what is not is you coming here spewing rubbish in the hope of defending the indefensible. Kimmich had a fantastic debut season as a fullback. Walker was an integral part of that record breaking Man City team and had a good World Cup even when played out of position. Carvajal made history with Real Madrid winning a third straight CL. Trippier brought back memories of Beckham and was one of the stars of the summer.

Alves had no business making that team.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adisaowalla: 6:02pm On Oct 15, 2018
pkasso:
]A fullback is more likely to bag an assist than score just as a striker is more likely to score than assist, Captain Obvious. Why not just compute their total goal contributions and compare since you are being so dubiously smart?

That's even ignoring the fact that those stats were in a mid-level league as the Ligue One - a league where a goal has a weighted average of 1.5 as to the 2 obtainable in the biggest leagues in Europe when calculating for the Golden Shoe. Will you be so happy if Alves was subjected to such a balanced and efficient metric in recalculating their true value.

Need I point out your attempt to skew the stats in favour of Alves by using the per minutes ratio when the sample sizes are not even close. Ever heard of regression to the mean? You might want to start taking Statistics classes.

Even at that, his stats still pales in comparison to that of Joshua Kimmich, a player who dropped an incredible 6 goals and 27 assists in 2018 alone. 18 big chances, 10 of which translated to assists in the BuLi. A look at their Squawka profiles for their respective leagues and the CL shows who the better player is. I'm even yet to look up that of Walker, Carvajal and Trippier.

Eruditor, will you be so nice to explain the logic behind the created chances bit for Mr Pace n' Pawa?

The CL is undoubtedly the biggest club competition in the world which provides a level field for comparing players who ply their trade in different leagues. So how does Alves fare against Kimmich? 2 goals and no assists for Alves. 4 GLS and 3 assists for Kimmich, including a goal in each leg against perennial champions Real in the semifinals.

Even putting the stats aside, the eye test shows Alves is no longer the beast he once was. His last world class performances were in his last few months at Juve. I'm talking c. April 2017. He got exposed in both legs against Real Madrid last season, even committing an error that led to a goal. Age has caught up with him, which is acceptable.

But what is not is you coming here spewing rubbish in the hope of defending the indefensible. Kimmich had a fantastic debut season as a fullback. Walker was an integral part of that record breaking Man City team and had a good World Cup even when played out of position. Carvajal made history with Real Madrid winning a third straight CL. Trippier brought back memories of Beckham and was one of the stars of the summer.

Alves had no business making that team.



Washere jare - YOU KNOW BALL!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 6:14pm On Oct 15, 2018
raumdeuter:
Italy played today and Belloti was not considered good enough for a start nor sub nor even bench

He is still relapsing
he is a great relaxer sorry relapster
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lalaboi(m): 6:20pm On Oct 15, 2018
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elampiro(m): 6:21pm On Oct 15, 2018
pkasso:
]A fullback is more likely to bag an assist than score just as a striker is more likely to score than assist, Captain Obvious. Why not just compute their total goal contributions and compare since you are being so dubiously smart?



You have ignored the fact that Alves had more Assists and CC not just more than strikers, but also European top wing forwards.

pkasso:

That's even ignoring the fact that those stats were in a mid-level league as the Ligue One - a league where a goal has a weighted average of 1.5 as to the 2 obtainable in the biggest leagues in Europe when calculating for the Golden Shoe. Will you be so happy if Alves was subjected to such a balanced and efficient metric in recalculating their true value.


So is not same same league that Di Maria, Draxler, etc play? To tell you more, Alves Assists per minutes played is better than all the players (wingers, strikers, wing forwards, AMC) in Monaco. To put it simple, Alves is number 7 on the list in the whole League 1 on Assists per minutes rating for players having more than 2000 playing minutes with such players as Neymar, Payet, Mbappe just coming ahead of him.

pkasso:


Need I point out your attempt to skew the stats in favour of Alves by using the per minutes ratio when the sample sizes are not even close. Ever heard of regression to the mean? You might want to start taking Statistics classes.


This is ridiculous. Alves still beats top players who played less number of minutes. So what the talk of sample. 2093 minutes, you are talking about 23 league matches. We are not even talking about UCL where he performed better on stats and even scored against Bayern Munich and Celtic.

pkasso:

Even at that, his stats still pales in comparison to that of Joshua Kimmich, a player who dropped an incredible 6 goals and 27 assists in 2018 alone. 18 big chances, 10 of which translated to assists in the BuLi. A look at their Squawka profiles for their respective leagues and the CL shows who the better player is. I'm even yet to look up that of Walker, Carvajal and Trippier.

Let us the the squawka comparison of the players on Assists and chances created. Then tackles.

pkasso:

Eruditor, will you be so nice to explain the logic behind the created chances bit for Mr Pace n' Pawa?

The CL is undoubtedly the biggest club competition in the world which provides a level field for comparing players who ply their trade in different leagues. So how does Alves fare against Kimmich? 2 goals and no assists for Alves. 4 GLS and 3 assists for Kimmich, including a goal in each leg against perennial champions Real in the semifinals.

Even putting the stats aside, the eye test shows Alves is no longer the beast he once was. His last world class performances were in his last few months at Juve. I'm talking c. April 2017. He got exposed in both legs against Real Madrid last season, even committing an error that led to a goal. Age has caught up with him, which is acceptable.

You want to compare Kimmich with 1.1 tackle per match with Alves with 3.2 tackle per match. Alves has better defensive stats that those Kimmich and Wlaker you mentioned as well as over all stats. Even in the UcL.

pkasso:

But what is not is you coming here spewing rubbish in the hope of defending the indefensible. Kimmich had a fantastic debut season as a fullback. Walker was an integral part of that record breaking Man City team and had a good World Cup even when played out of position. Carvajal made history with Real Madrid winning a third straight CL. Trippier brought back memories of Beckham and was one of the stars of the summer.

Alves had no business making that team.



Alves is no longer the beast he used to be, same with Ronaldo. But they have adapted their games to be more efficient. Na beast dey bring result?

Beast Ko Anima ni

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:24pm On Oct 15, 2018
pkasso:
]A fullback is more likely to bag an assist than score just as a striker is more likely to score than assist, Captain Obvious. Why not just compute their total goal contributions and compare since you are being so dubiously smart?

That's even ignoring the fact that those stats were in a mid-level league as the Ligue One - a league where a goal has a weighted average of 1.5 as to the 2 obtainable in the biggest leagues in Europe when calculating for the Golden Shoe. Will you be so happy if Alves was subjected to such a balanced and efficient metric in recalculating their true value.

Need I point out your attempt to skew the stats in favour of Alves by using the per minutes ratio when the sample sizes are not even close. Ever heard of regression to the mean? You might want to start taking Statistics classes.

Even at that, his stats still pales in comparison to that of Joshua Kimmich, a player who dropped an incredible 6 goals and 27 assists in 2018 alone. 18 big chances, 10 of which translated to assists in the BuLi. A look at their Squawka profiles for their respective leagues and the CL shows who the better player is. I'm even yet to look up that of Walker, Carvajal and Trippier.

Eruditor, will you be so nice to explain the logic behind the created chances bit for Mr Pace n' Pawa?

The CL is undoubtedly the biggest club competition in the world which provides a level field for comparing players who ply their trade in different leagues. So how does Alves fare against Kimmich? 2 goals and no assists for Alves. 4 GLS and 3 assists for Kimmich, including a goal in each leg against perennial champions Real in the semifinals.

Even putting the stats aside, the eye test shows Alves is no longer the beast he once was. His last world class performances were in his last few months at Juve. I'm talking c. April 2017. He got exposed in both legs against Real Madrid last season, even committing an error that led to a goal. Age has caught up with him, which is acceptable.

But what is not is you coming here spewing rubbish in the hope of defending the indefensible. Kimmich had a fantastic debut season as a fullback. Walker was an integral part of that record breaking Man City team and had a good World Cup even when played out of position. Carvajal made history with Real Madrid winning a third straight CL. Trippier brought back memories of Beckham and was one of the stars of the summer.

Alves had no business making that team.


Chai. You're a boss.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Cypmeni(m): 7:23pm On Oct 15, 2018
The same thing some peeps here have been saying, football is a team sport and for you to achieve greatness you need good and quality teammates

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:03pm On Oct 15, 2018
Roland17 you see goal wey sterling score
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 8:29pm On Oct 15, 2018
Spain being spanked at home

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 8:32pm On Oct 15, 2018
madrid5:
Spain being spanked at home
And DDG continues drinking goals like kunu

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 8:39pm On Oct 15, 2018
Unlimited22:

And DDG continues drinking goals like kunu
bros I am watching the game,I don't think we should blame de gea for this oh, ramos and nacho sometimes play like David Luiz grin.
Meanwhile Sergio basket should retire abeg,in don done,78% possession yet 3-0 down,na wa oh.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:42pm On Oct 15, 2018
Spain scored and referee no allow them pass before blowing final whistle
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 9:52pm On Oct 15, 2018
raumdeuter:
Roland17 you see goal wey sterling score

Man!! did he finish the 1st goal spectacularly? His finishing has improved, to be honest, and he keeps proving me wrong by sustaining it. For some reason, I am still not entirely sold on the aspect of his game.

I think the bigger problem is Spain losing because it seems to be a reflection of the struggles of Barcelona and Madrid, two teams that have been the mainstay of the La Roja.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:30pm On Oct 15, 2018
madrid5:
bros I am watching the game,I don't think we should blame de gea for this oh, ramos and nacho sometimes play like David Luiz grin.
Meanwhile Sergio basket should retire abeg,in don done,78% possession yet 3-0 down,na wa oh.

Who is this o? It mustn't happen few days after apari raumdeuter recommended retirement for his useless boathand. cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 6:33am On Oct 16, 2018
Unlimited22:

It's too early. His form is unsustainable.
Let's be keeping tabs though.
Also, we will need a right back in about a season's time.
Azpilicueta needs a rest and quickly or he'll go the way of Ivanovic.
Elseid Hysaj and Joao Cancelo are good options.
Matt Doherty of Wolverhampton Wanderers too.
Also, if Christensen wants to leave we can offer him and some money to Ajax for Mathias de Ligt.
are you minding your guys, that's how your uncle said Bellotti is the next best thing look at Paco too firing anyhow

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