But come to think of it, Manchester as a city is useless o

Their two biggest teams played the two biggest European finals in the space of 3 days........... And lost both.

This kind thing no fit happen for London.

Ibime:


Park the bus strikers do even better in attacking football. Drogbas best season was his 37 goal season in 2010 playing ultra attacking football under Ancelotti.

Those who can produce with little service will definitely produce in abundance with plentiful service. Just like the parable of the talents.

You are woefully bereft of knowledge of this great club.

Don't make a fluke season make you start comparing our players of the last 10 years to that era.

During that era we compete for league every season and made UCL semis at a minimum in 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008 and 2009 - 5 years out of 6, unlike these days when we wonder if we will make top 4.

Premier league wasn't as competitive back then as it is today

Top 4 was guaranteed for most clubs, you could name the top 4 every season, the emergence of city and spurs coupled with the new rules for sharing broadcast revenue changed everything, smaller teams are getting better players and coaches


What makes the premier league special is the match day uncertainty and they will continue sharing broadcast revenue evenly to maintain that uncertainty, you know that it's possible for any team to beat any team, makes the viewing experience enjoyable

it's arguable that we wouldn't dominate with those players if they were playing for us today


You call last season a fluke because you want to undermine havertz, if I said something like this that wild bat will say that it's covid that brought people here

The way you look at issues is disappointing, I expected better from you honestly, you have allowed sentiments to cloud your judgment.

Havertz10:
Premier league wasn't as competitive back then as it is today

Top 4 was guaranteed for most clubs, you could name the top 4 every season, the emergence of city and spurs coupled with the new rules for sharing broadcast revenue changed everything, smaller teams are getting better players and coaches


What makes the premier league special is the match day uncertainty and they will continue sharing broadcast revenue evenly to maintain that uncertainty, you know that it's possible for any team to beat any team, makes the viewing experience enjoyable

it's arguable that we wouldn't dominate with those players if they were playing for us today


You call last season a fluke because you want to undermine havertz, if I said something like this that wild bat will say that it's covid that brought people here

The way you look at issues is disappointing, I expected better from you honestly, you have allowed sentiments to cloud your judgment.

Absolute rubbish. The only reason that team did not win more league titles was one reason only and that's Ronaldo at Man Utd. Soon as Ronaldo left in 2009, they won the next season.

If TV money explains their consistency in EPL, what explains their consistency in Europe?

The only players in this era that will near that team are Kante and the wingers (wings was their only weakness after the sale of Robben and Duff). Also Azpi or James would replace Ferreira easily.

It's obvious you are a born yesterday Chelsea fan from the rubbish above.

You know nothing about the feeling of going into a match 100% confident that Chelsea would win.

This current Chelsea era had not made UCL semi for 7 years before this season.

And what makes you think this has anything to do with Havertz? You are nuts. I'm not fake fan like you that will pray for Chelsea to lose UCL because you don't want Mount to win. I've been complaining about this iteration of Chelsea since 2013 season.

Ibime:


Absolute rubbish. The only reason that team did not win more league titles was one reason only and that's Ronaldo at Man Utd. Soon as Ronaldo left in 2009, they won the next season.

If TV money explains their consistency in EPL, what explains their consistency in Europe?

The only players in this era that will near that team are Kante and the wingers (wings was their only weakness after the sale of Robben and Duff). Also Azpi or James would replace Ferreira easily.

It's obvious you are a born yesterday Chelsea fan from the rubbish above.

You know nothing about the feeling of going into a match 100% confident that Chelsea would win.

This current Chelsea era had not made UCL semi for 7 years before this season.

And what makes you think this has anything to do with Havertz? You are nuts. I'm not fake fan like you that will pray for Chelsea to lose UCL because you don't want Mount to win. I've been complaining about this iteration of Chelsea since 2013 season.

Why does this sound like you are almost angry for something you should be pissed at him for.


havert10 can annoy atimes

I'm sure we sat among the top four PL sides for chances created, big chances created and shots on goal last season, so creativity was never our problem rather finishing.

I am a very big fan of Kane but I'll board the Haaland's train this time around.

I don't care if the lad is an unproven commodity, all I care about is the number of chances we created last season that went begging and how Haaland's shot and big chance conversion rates suggests he would have buried those chances if he was here. Of his 40 Bundesliga goals, 39 have come from inside the box while 37 of them have been from open play, and this was where we fell so short, we were ranked ninth for open-play goals in 2020/21.

We better deal with the fear of the unknown, and smash the bank for this prodigy. We have a young squad that are Champions of Europe, there's no other ideal way to build on that than adding a 20-year-old beast of a No9 to lead the line next season.

Ibime:


Absolute rubbish. The only reason that team did not win more league titles was one reason only and that's Ronaldo at Man Utd. Soon as Ronaldo left in 2009, they won the next season.

If TV money explains their consistency in EPL, what explains their consistency in Europe?

The only players in this era that will near that team are Kante and the wingers (wings was their only weakness after the sale of Robben and Duff). Also Azpi or James would replace Ferreira easily.

It's obvious you are a born yesterday Chelsea fan from the rubbish above.

You know nothing about the feeling of going into a match 100% confident that Chelsea would win.

This current Chelsea era had not made UCL semi for 7 years before this season.

And what makes you think this has anything to do with Havertz? You are nuts. I'm not fake fan like you that will pray for Chelsea to lose UCL because you don't want Mount to win. I've been complaining about this iteration of Chelsea since 2013 season.

is it just Chelsea? you aren't taking into account the emergence of psg, the reemergence of Juventus or Atletico Madrid's growth or Barcelona dominance that period, or Bayern becoming the force that it is today

Football at the top has gotten more competitive than ever before, you can't go into a game and expect to win, teams have better players and managers, they will battle it out with you

Bolded dey make me laugh, after we won it 2010, United were victorious twice without Ronaldo. I no even understand your bearings self, Chelsea didn't win the title because of 1 man and you call that team legendary

City came and blew everybody out of the way and the league has become more competitive, top 4 more difficult and things are exciting, you are campaigning because you want chelsea to dominate and get to semifinals regularly and mount is the man to do it

That Chelsea team back then will get smoked today, I no hide mouth talk am

Chelsea were dominant then but whenever they met top teams they got eliminated dominance indeed, they had to park bus to shamelessly win champions league

Havertz10:

Bolded dey make me laugh, after we won it 2010, United were victorious twice without Ronaldo. I no even understand your bearings self, Chelsea didn't win the title because of 1 man and you call that team legendary

Shows you know nothing about Chelsea. That era ended in 2010 with the exit of Ballack, Makelele and Essien injury problems

That was when the ninnies started taking over to what we have today. 2012 UCL was last dying embers of the last ones left.

BlueAngel444:

Why does this sound like you are almost angry for something you should be pissed at him for.


havert10 can annoy atimes

he doesn't have a case, ignoring externalities, hyping the past as if they were great back then

Ibime:


Shows you know nothing about Chelsea. That era ended in 2010 with the exit of Ballack, Makelele and Essien injury problems

That was when the ninnies started taking over to what we have today. 2012 UCL was last dying embers of the last ones left.

they always got smoked when they met top oppositions

They could only win by playing negative football

Ibime:


Absolute rubbish. The only reason that team did not win more league titles was one reason only and that's Ronaldo at Man Utd. Soon as Ronaldo left in 2009, they won the next season.

If TV money explains their consistency in EPL, what explains their consistency in Europe?

The only players in this era that will near that team are Kante and the wingers (wings was their only weakness after the sale of Robben and Duff). Also Azpi or James would replace Ferreira easily.

It's obvious you are a born yesterday Chelsea fan from the rubbish above.

You know nothing about the feeling of going into a match 100% confident that Chelsea would win.

This current Chelsea era had not made UCL semi for 7 years before this season.

And what makes you think this has anything to do with Havertz? You are nuts. I'm not fake fan like you that will pray for Chelsea to lose UCL because you don't want Mount to win. I've been complaining about this iteration of Chelsea since 2013 season.

You are right. I didnt even remember kante but Azpilicueta came to my mind together with Thiago Silva . This new Rudiger will actually sit on the bench sha. Only those who started watching us today will have something different to say .

Havertz10:
is it just Chelsea? you aren't taking into account the emergence of psg, the reemergence of Juventus or Atletico Madrid's growth or Barcelona dominance that period, or Bayern becoming the force that it is today

Football at the top has gotten more competitive than ever before, you can't go into a game and expect to win, teams have better players and managers, they will battle it out with you

Bolded dey make me laugh, after we won it 2010, United were victorious twice without Ronaldo. I no even understand your bearings self, Chelsea didn't win the title because of 1 man and you call that team legendary

City came and blew everybody out of the way and the league has become more competitive, top 4 more difficult and things are exciting, you are campaigning because you want chelsea to dominate and get to semifinals regularly and mount is the man to do it

That Chelsea team back then will get smoked today, I no hide mouth talk am

Chelsea were dominant then but whenever they met top teams they got eliminated dominance indeed, they had to park bus to shameless win champions league

WTF !!!
Tell me you are joking?

Havertz10:
is it just Chelsea? you aren't taking into account the emergence of psg, the reemergence of Juventus or Atletico Madrid's growth or Barcelona dominance that period, or Bayern becoming the force that it is today

Football at the top has gotten more competitive than ever before, you can't go into a game and expect to win, teams have better players and managers, they will battle it out with you

Bolded dey make me laugh, after we won it 2010, United were victorious twice without Ronaldo. I no even understand your bearings self, Chelsea didn't win the title because of 1 man and you call that team legendary

City came and blew everybody out of the way and the league has become more competitive, top 4 more difficult and things are exciting, you are campaigning because you want chelsea to dominate and get to semifinals regularly and mount is the man to do it

That Chelsea team back then will get smoked today, I no hide mouth talk am

Chelsea were dominant then but whenever they met top teams they got eliminated dominance indeed, they had to park bus to shameless win champions league

Aside the Barcelona game at the nou camp were we had to play most part of the game with a man down,tell me any other game in which we parked the bus ?pls dont make the mistake of calling the finals .

popizaino:


Aside the Barcelona game at the nou camp were we had to play most part of the game with a man down,tell me any other game in which we parked the bus ?pls dont make the mistake of calling the finals .

Aside Barcelona and Bayern, which other top teams did Chelsea meet?

popizaino:


WTF !!!
Tell me you are joking?

most teams back then were mediocre, you could easily breeze through the round of 16 and quarter finals

Now there are many top teams and most teams provide more competition


Look at the teams that removed Chelsea prior to 2012

Look at the teams that removed Chelsea post 2012

Top teams but the difference is you will meet them in R16 compared to before that they were few or only appeared in semi finals or finals, the competition has gotten more competitive

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popizaino:


Aside the Barcelona game at the nou camp were we had to play most part of the game with a man down,tell me any other game in which we parked the bus ?pls dont make the mistake of calling the finals .

first leg, what happened?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5TcPaZC_Rs

popizaino:


You are right. I didnt even remember kante but Azpilicueta came to my mind together with Thiago Silva . This new Rudiger will actually sit on the bench sha. Only those who started watching us today will have something different to say .

Kante will actually be swapping with Essien

Havertz10:
they always got smoked when they met top oppositions

They could only win by playing negative football

When did they get smoked? JJC

That team never played Europa League or failed to qualify for Europe like this era has done three times

Havertz10:
first leg, what happened?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5TcPaZC_Rs

You only started watching Chelsea in 2012. JJC.

Havertz10
Do u know him?

Havertz10:
most teams back then were mediocre, you could easily breeze through the round of 16 and quarter finals

Now there are many top teams and most teams provide more competition


Look at the teams that removed Chelsea prior to 2012

Look at the teams that removed Chelsea post 2012

Top teams but the difference is you will meet them in R16 compared to before that they were few or only appeared in semi finals or finals, the competition has gotten more competitive

You know Sabi anything. That era team used to dump out Bayern and Barca on the way to the semi . This era get disgraced when they meet any big team, and 3 times they could not even make UCL. That weak Barca team that disgraced us in 2018 UCL would have collected a big stonking from 2000 era Chelsea, likewise PSG of 2014/15 era

Hakimi has agreed personal arrangements with Chelsea. This is what person supposed they talk about

donstan18:

Aside Barcelona and Bayern, which other top teams did Chelsea meet?

For me, we didnt meet any other big team aside the ones you mentioned but others might argue and include Napoli,Benefica, Valencia but for me they are not .

BlueAngel444:
Hakimi has agreed personal arrangements with Chelsea. This is what person supposed they talk about

some people are mad at tuchel on Twitter, they said that he is betraying james

Appointing Lampard was a bad decision, sentimental
people will force any academy player on the team

That dream that Lampard gave them that Barca dream

Youth players and former player as manager has affected the reasoning of some people, after james is relegated to the bench by hakimi, mount will be the next casualty

popizaino:



For me, we didnt meet any other big team aside the ones you mentioned but others might argue and include Napoli,Benefica, Valencia but for me they are not .

Reason we had to play negative football against Bayern and Barcelona.

I was just trying to agree with Harvertz100 that we played negative football against top teams in Ucl12 to win it.

Havertz10:
some people are mad at tuchel on Twitter, they said that he is betraying james

Appointing Lampard was a bad decision, sentimental
people will force any academy player on the team

That dream that Lampard gave them that Barca dream

Youth players and former player as manager has affected the reasoning of some people, after james is relegated to the bench by hakimi, mount will be the next casualty

Hakimi can’t relegated James. He might even come and end up not doing well, you people are too quick to hope on new players forgetting that we were victims of fraudulent transfer last season, Harvertz as an example.

James has played RCB this season, Azip is getting older, there are possibilities that he’ll replace Azip there. Reece is a good player, has been influential than Harvertz and Hakim Ziyech since their arrival to the club.

Same way ManU signed Telles and everyone thought it was over for Shaw because he’s a British player, wetin happen??

Come bench James make I see.

Ibime:



You know Sabi anything. That era team used to dump out Bayern and Barca on the way to the semi . This era get disgraced when they meet any big team, and 3 times they could not even make UCL. That weak Barca team that disgraced us in 2018 UCL would have collected a big stonking from 2000 era Chelsea, likewise PSG of 2014/15 era

asides porto, how many small teams made it to the final or semi final back then?


2000 era Chelsea were mediocre, they mostly won by single goals and depended on the defense to see out games, that isn't exactly dominance


Everytime they met quality opposition, they parked the bus and played like a small team

donstan18:

Hakimi can’t relegated James. He might even come and end up not doing well, you people are too quick to hope on new players forgetting that we were victims of fraudulent transfer last season, Harvertz as an example.

James has played RCB this season, Azip is getting older, there are possibilities that he’ll replace Azip there. Reece is a good player, has been influential than Harvertz and Hakim Ziyech since their arrival to the club.

Same way ManU signed Telles and everyone thought it was over for Shaw because he’s a British player, wetin happen??

Come bench James make I see.

based on your logic only academy players are good, all transfers bring flops, maybe they should even cancel transfer windows entirely

I wonder why Chelsea didn't follow your guidance and maintain the same team that got smoked 7-1 by Bayern

Hakimi is the best rwb in the world, james is an irrelevant dunce compared to him, they aren't comparable on any level, stats and otherwise

If he is acquired, James should pack his bags

Havertz10:
most teams back then were mediocre, you could easily breeze through the round of 16 and quarter finals

Now there are many top teams and most teams provide more competition


Look at the teams that removed Chelsea prior to 2012

Look at the teams that removed Chelsea post 2012

Top teams but the difference is you will meet them in R16 compared to before that they were few or only appeared in semi finals or finals, the competition has gotten more competitive

If you really watched football back then,you wouldn't need me to tell you those teams that knocked us out prior to 2012 will actually have decimated the teams that removed us post 2012 even in a more convincing manner and that none of those teams that removed us post 2012 would have removed us prior to 2012.

I can't argue if there were more mediocre teams back then but what I know is that the football then was more quality and none of this present UCL finalist would have stood a chance back then and it's the reason I once argued with raumdeuter that just because france are current world champions doesn't mean they could stand the same france who didn't win in 2006 .

Havertz10:
based on your logic only academy players are good, all transfers bring flops, maybe they should even cancel transfer windows entirely

I wonder why Chelsea didn't follow your guidance and maintain the same team that got smoked 7-1 by Bayern

Hakimi is the best rwb in the world, james is an irrelevant dunce compared to him, there aren't comparable on any level, stats and otherwise

If he is acquired, James should pack his bags

Logic?

How about giving your academy the same time you give these frauds in Chelsea?

Hakimi can never be the rwb in the world.Never!!

Person never perform for Chelsea, una don dey hype am, if he flops now, you’ll start ranting for time that you don’t rant for British players.

popizaino:


If you really watched football back then,you wouldn't need me to tell you those teams that knocked us out prior to 2012 will actually have decimated the teams that removed us post 2012 even in a more convincing manner and that none of those teams that removed us post 2012 would have removed us prior to 2012.

I can't argue if there were more mediocre teams back then but what I know is that the football then was more quality and none of this present UCL finalist would have stood a chance back then and it's the reason I once argued with raumdeuter that just because france are current world champions doesn't mean they could stand the same france who didn't win in 2006 .

which metric did you use to arrive at that conclusion?

Ac Milan will beat last season Bayern

liverpool that will beat prime Barca

Footballers had mystic then and were mostly overrated, pele for instance is so overrated, it's irritating, I will go and find a reasonable way to measure the competitive nature of the champions league over the years and share, cause these arguments are absurd.

Top' 10 players in big chances missed (per SofaScore)

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (Juventus) - 33
2. Erling Haaland (Borussia Dortmund) - 26
3. Robert Lewandowski (Bayern Munich) - 24
4. Timo Werner (Chelsea) - 23
5. Romelu Lukaku (Inter Milan) - 22
5. Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur) - 22
5. Karim Benzema (Real Madrid) - 22
8. Kylian Mbappe (PSG) - 19
9. Mohamed Salah (Liverpool) - 17
10. Antoine Griezmann (Barcelona) - 16


We want to replace Werner with Lukaku, Kane or Haaland