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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:49pm On Jun 20, 2021
chic2pimp:
GOLAZZOOOOOOO!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:52pm On Jun 20, 2021
devvy44:


Show am. Alonso wey be baba. Xabi Alonso is one of the midfielders I don’t joke with, he can play any type of tactics and still be quality.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:55pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Show am. Alonso wey be baba. Xabi Alonso is one of the midfielders I don’t joke with, he can play any type of tactics and still be quality.

Madrid/Liverpool fans that watched him play won’t regard him as a DM, I don’t know what that guy is saying
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:55pm On Jun 20, 2021
Leyqute:


LooL. You’re funny. Only God knows how you think.

So is DeJong and Fernandinho better DMs than Yaya Toure then?

Yaya Toure has quality skills that can help the team win games. His versatility and quality are why he’s given more midfield tasks and also why he’s played in a more advanced position sometimes. That is the reason those players got the nod ahead of him at DM, not because they’re better DMs than he is.

If a coach needs to fill ONLY the DM position and has to choose between Yaya, De Jong and Bousquet. Yaya will come first.

Unfortunately no coach played Yaya consistently at DM because he doesnt have the discipline to play the role
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:56pm On Jun 20, 2021
When it comes to midfield matters No sensible football lover will rate bousq ahead of Alonso, when you nor Dey craze. Alonso of all player, bousq Dey craze. Abeg enough of this insult. Bousq know him level. The fact that pep over do things doesn’t give room for bousq to talk when yaya Dey yarn.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:56pm On Jun 20, 2021
devvy44:


Madrid/Liverpool fans that watched him play won’t regard him as a DM, I don’t know what that guy is saying

Basically you are agreeing that Xabi did not play DM and always had a DM to cover him because he had poor marking
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:57pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
When it comes to midfield matters No sensible football lover will rate bousq ahead of Alonso, when you nor Dey craze. Alonso of all player, bousq Dey craze. Abeg enough of this insult. Bousq know him level. The fact that pep over do things doesn’t give room for bousq to talk when yaya Dey yarn.

How come no coach played Xabi as DM, they always had a solid DM play behind him to cover him
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 5:58pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Spain under Vincente Alonso was the actual DM, bousq was just there to continue that his tag with xavi and iniesta. What has Spain achieve under Enrique.
Which Alonso was the dm? Except for the few times del Bosque paired them up as two CDMs behind xavi, Busquets mostly played lower on the pitch than Alonso because of his long passing, and he could shoot better than busquets when Spain were chasing a goal but most of the defensive work ahead of Ramos and Pique was left to Busquets, Busquets was the proper defensive midfielder, Xabi was the deep playmaker,
And I like how you subtly ignored Enrique's achievements with Barcelona, Luis Enrique was appointed in 2018, left the post briefly cause of his daughter's death but still came back to put Spain in the UEFA nations league semis, humiliating Germany 6-0 though it was rodri not busquets who played in that match, don't let their current plight fool you

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:58pm On Jun 20, 2021
devvy44:


Rest

So marking interceptions and things that make a DM great are missing from Xabis skillset
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:00pm On Jun 20, 2021
devvy44:


Madrid/Liverpool fans that watched him play won’t regard him as a DM, I don’t know what that guy is saying
He orchestrate play from deep didn’t make him CDM of the team. Alonso that change defense to goal with just one pass. Alonso and Pirlo na daddy, bousq Don bath. If not that pep dey mad who be bousq were men dey. Tomorrow now dem go behind compare rodri to makelele, carrick keane because man city dey win epl. Barca wining trophies was not down to bousq but messi, xavi superiority, mostly messi.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:01pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Which Alonso was the dm? Except for the few times del Bosque paired them up as two CDMs behind xavi, Busquets mostly played lower on the pitch than Alonso because of his long passing, and he could shoot better than busquets when Spain were chasing a goal but most of the defensive work ahead of Ramos and Pique was left to Busquets, Busquets was the proper defensive midfielder, Xabi was the deep playmaker,
And I like how you subtly ignored Enrique's achievements with Barcelona, Luis Enrique was appointed in 2018, left the post briefly cause of his daughter's death but still came back to put Spain in the UEFA nations league semis, humiliating Germany 6-0 though it was rodri not busquets who played in that match, don't let their current plight fool you

hensben dont know much about football

Na just vibes. How can anyone watch football and say Xabi is a DM
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:02pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
He orchestrate play from deep didn’t make him CDM of the team. Alonso that change defense to goal with just one pass. Alonso and Pirlo na daddy, bousq Don bath. If not that pep dey mad who be bousq were men dey. Tomorrow now dem go behind compare rodri to makelele, carrick keane because man city dey win epl. Barca wining trophies was not down to bousq but messi, xavi superiority, mostly messi.

Basically Xabi lacks all the characteristics of what makes a DM great

No wonder you also think Vidal will play DM

Pep has left Busquets since 2012, 9yrs later coaches still start Busquets at DM
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 6:02pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:


The list of coaches who didnt play Xabi at DM,
Benitez, Pellegrini, Mourinho Ancelotti, Luis Enrique etc

The list of coaches who didnt play Yaya at DM
Mancini and Pellegrini

But its all Pep
I'm just tired, xabi's abilities were more visible up front due to his different skills range, Pep this pep that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 6:04pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:


hensben dont know much about football

Na just vibes. How can anyone watch football and say Xabi is a DM
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:06pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Which Alonso was the dm? Except for the few times del Bosque paired them up as two CDMs behind xavi, Busquets mostly played lower on the pitch than Alonso because of his long passing, and he could shoot better than busquets when Spain were chasing a goal but most of the defensive work ahead of Ramos and Pique was left to Busquets, Busquets was the proper defensive midfielder, Xabi was the deep playmaker,
And I like how you subtly ignored Enrique's achievements with Barcelona, Luis Enrique was appointed in 2018, left the post briefly cause of his daughter's death but still came back to put Spain in the UEFA nations league semis, humiliating Germany 6-0 though it was rodri not busquets who played in that match, don't let their current plight fool you
Was there actual CDM work for Spain to do seeing that they were always with the ball. This is why bousq rarely do CDM work because nothing much to actually do for him than to recycle passes with xavi and iniesta. Has Enrique won trophies with Spain yet.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:09pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:


Basically Xabi lacks all the characteristics of what makes a DM great

No wonder you also think Vidal will play DM

Pep has left Busquets since 2012, 9yrs later coaches still start Busquets at DM
Alonso is not DM but he is more useful as DM than bousq is my argument. Of course I know that Alonso is a deep lying midfielder also known as regista. He can also play CM. But my point is he did everything better than bousq even when the later is refer to as DM.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:12pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:


Basically Xabi lacks all the characteristics of what makes a DM great

No wonder you also think Vidal will play DM

Pep has left Busquets since 2012, 9yrs later coaches still start Busquets at DM
And which characteristic that make bousq great as CDM?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:13pm On Jun 20, 2021
Good defensive play by Jorginho. Don't know if he was the one who floated that lively pass afterwards.

Why has Chiesa not been starting since?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:14pm On Jun 20, 2021
Red card to Ampadu sad

Certainly misses the ball and catches Bernadeschi poorly, but that's harsh.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:15pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
And which characteristic that make bousq great as CDM?

Interceptions
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:15pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Alonso is not DM but he is more useful as DM than bousq is my argument. Of course I know that Alonso is a deep lying midfielder also known as regista. He can also play CM. But my point is he did everything better than bousq even when the later is refer to as DM.

As a DM Busquest is better than Xabi

SImple

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 6:15pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Was there actual CDM work for Spain to do seeing that they were always with the ball. This is why bousq rarely do CDM work because nothing much to actually do for him than to recycle passes with xavi and iniesta. Has Enrique won trophies with Spain yet.
Pls bro if you have the time , watch the 2010 World cup semi-final of Spain against Germany and the Euros 2012 Penalty shootout semi-final win against an in-form Ronaldo led Portugal and see if he had any cdm work to do
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:17pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:


As a DM Busquest is better than Xabi

SImple
He is not better.

Complex.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:20pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:


Interceptions
Not true. If at all he intercept can you compare him to Kante or Casemiro or fabinho in that regard.
You see that Alonso is refer to as DM in the picture below.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:23pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
He is not better.

Complex.

There is a reason all the coaches of Xabi play a DM to help him out
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:26pm On Jun 20, 2021
Debroslink:


I agree with everything you said except the bold. Iniesta made Xavi a god in midfield.

Don't make me rubbish Xavi.

Will you keep kwayet.

Here comes Iniesta still trying to live off Xavi even after death.

In Euro 2008, Xavi made all the assists and was named Player of the tournament. In that tournament, he set the template for how Spain and Barca will be successful going forward.

Xavi cut soap for everyone from Senna to Busquets to Fabregas to Iniesta. None of them could reprise the same thing without Xavi.

All of them were asked to replace Xavi. None could. Fabregas was given the opportunity to do so, he failed. They later dropped Iniesta to Xavi position to do the same thing, he couldn't. Barca had to rely on the most lethal front 3 of the last 20 years in MSN to win that last UCL.

When Xavi was making 100 passes per game, Iniesta was making 60. They will call it Xavi-Iniesta midfield. After Xavi left they asked Iniesta to do the same thing, he couldn't. Barca midfield was no longer dominant.

Instead of facing his fellow AMs who were scoring and assisting in the hundreds while Iniesta was dragging stats with John Terry, you want to leave his fellow AMs and come and steal Xavis glory.

Iniesta is the luckiest footballer that ever lived. 2010 World Cup, Xavi was making all the assist, Iniesta did nothing only to come and steal the headlines in the final with his only contribution.

2012 Euros the mofo didn't even drop a single assist or goal.

That's how in 2015 season the mofo went a full calendar year in the league without a goal or assist only to come and assist in the final and make it seem he's been contributing all season.

Xavi cut soap for all these boys from Euro 2008 where he set the template on how they would play. He controlled, he dictated, he dominated that midfield. None of them did. They were only periphery to what Xavi was doing. From 2008 till retirement, there was only one game Xavi played where Barca did not have the majority of possession. After Xavi bowed out, that midfield dominance turned to shït.

Here we are trying to give Xavi his flowers and the career leach Iniesta is still trying to steal those flowers from Xavis grave instead of talking about how his stats measure up to equivalent AMs of his era. We know how Xavis stats in CM measure up to all the CMs of his era.

He should go and face his fellow AMs and stop trying to live off Xavi until the grave.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:26pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:


There is a reason all the coaches of Xabi play a DM to help him out
There is a reason mascherano and yaya were behind bousq. Immediately mascherano retired bousq became useless. Mascherano was the actual CDM for Barca in their glory days because they play high line football. Bousq is just there to recycle short and side way passes.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 6:28pm On Jun 20, 2021
BlueMann:
Good defensive play by Jorginho. Don't know if he was the one who floated that lively pass afterwards.

Why has Chiesa not been starting since?
They won't see that oooh cause the eyes of many are on chiesa, veratti and belotti but let them receive a heavy thrashing that's when he'll be lambasted to the high heavens
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 6:32pm On Jun 20, 2021
See Jorginho romance everywhere cheesy ;…e no hard to change our fans mind grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Actman05: 6:33pm On Jun 20, 2021
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:34pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
There is a reason mascherano and yaya were behind bousq. Immediately mascherano retired bousq became useless. Mascherano was the actual CDM for Barca in their glory days because they play high line football. Bousq is just there to recycle short and side way passes.

This guy doesnt know anything

So you didnt know that Mascherano played CB for Barcelona while Busquets played DM

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:34pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:

They won't see that oooh cause the eyes of many are on chiesa, veratti and belotti but let them receive a heavy thrashing that's when he'll be lambasted to the high heavens
Was Jorg and bousq primary role? Any player can pass.

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