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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:48am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Ibime: Ogbeni, don't disrespect Kovacic. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:49am On Jun 21, 2021 |
donstan18: You nearly made him a Mushin talent by comparing him to a CM. Not that I think otherwise though |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:49am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Havertz10: I'm not concerned with narrative, stories or a player playing politics being asked to pick between friends 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:49am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Havertz10:Fact! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:49am On Jun 21, 2021 |
thorrvik55:iniesta was better, lets look at clutch moments, when it mattered, when a player is playing at the peak of their powers, ozil never stood out but ineista was dominating teams and never staying in one place, always making himself available for a pass, ozil is a specialty merchant, very good at certain things but he wasn't a maestro |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:50am On Jun 21, 2021 |
swiz123:We were arguing about Inesta, you brought in Mount. I did the needed and here you are, talking about Mushin. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:51am On Jun 21, 2021 |
thorrvik55: Iniesta was never the traditional AM we know. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:53am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Ibime:you can't compare both abeg, there are certain players that are greater than G/A iniesta, xavi, pirlo and a very select few are like that They wouldn't get many goals and assists but they are creating plays that leads to goals for their team |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 8:54am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Havertz10:I remember Ozil Humiliating Brazil, Argentina and England in two World Cup Finals in the knockout rounds and almost assisting Arsenal to league title if not for the uselessness of the club. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 8:54am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Havertz10: They were both attacking midfielders, right? What are attacking midfielders primary duty? Activity forming like Kovacic or output? I like Iniesta as a player and don't want to resort to dragging him but in terms of "individually" ehn, Ozil and Iniesta no be mate at all.. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:55am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Havertz10: When it mattered, Mount > KDB. You cannot be useless the whole season, make an assist in the final and claim you were there when it mattered. Who brought you to the final? If you take an unproductive player to 3 finals a year, he will also be there when it mattered. Even Marcos Asensio, Lars Ricken and co scored when they took them to final. 5 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 8:56am On Jun 21, 2021 |
swiz123:Traditional ko, spiritual ni? What's the job of an AM? Iniesta was lucky to play in teams that did not rely on him for creativity despite the fact that he was an AM!! 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:57am On Jun 21, 2021 |
thorrvik55:Ozil was very good, individually he is better than iniesta. But then again iniesta success with Barca will make some persons think otherwise. Just as some people here are rating bousq due to team success. A defensive midfielder that is a liability defensively, he was not the orchestrator xavi was, he only turn like snail and give short and simple pass to xavi or side way pass to alvez. There was a reason bousq was not recognized by football governing body even when he played for a dominant team. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:57am On Jun 21, 2021 |
airmark:even the madman used the term, "we" are many Some people carry legion for body na |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:57am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Ibime: If my memory serves me right, I think it was you that argued that Lampard is not an AM but a CM. Barca played a 4-1-2-3. Busquet at DM with Iniesta and Xavi the two CM. While Iniesta probbed further than Xavi, it is also wrong to call him a pure AM cos both of them press equally in Midfield 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:57am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Amoto94:kross played a role in that game, Germany played well, ozil wasn't even the standout performer Ozil isn't a clutch player 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:59am On Jun 21, 2021 |
airmark:"aparisports" way never even make front page NL |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:59am On Jun 21, 2021 |
donstan18: You guys don't want me to sleep again. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:59am On Jun 21, 2021 |
thorrvik55:He was lucky to have a player like messi who is a play maker and also a goal scorer. Imagine iniesta in Madrid and he is to feed cr7 like ozil. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 8:59am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Who even started this lie of Iniesta being an attacking Midfielder 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 9:02am On Jun 21, 2021 |
hensben:Lol.. That'll be like playing Kovacic in AM and expecting him to feed Ronaldo Activity forming with no output!! True definition of a carry-along. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:02am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Havertz10: Go and check Xavi and Pirlo passing stats in comparison to their teammates. The first two are deep lying midfielders whose primary job is reflected in their passing stats. Iniesta is an AM with paltry passing stats and still being outscored and outassisted handsomely by his deeplying midfielders. Iniesta the only AM in the world where GA doesn't matter. Oya show us his passing stats, or does that not matter? What is he good for? Forming activity like Kovacic? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:02am On Jun 21, 2021 |
thorrvik55: When their lies are exposed, they will start using ludicrous adjectives. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 9:03am On Jun 21, 2021 |
thorrvik55:he even carried arsenal for years and they became mid table team when his form dropped. I feel like he should have gotten more hype with those numbers. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 9:06am On Jun 21, 2021 |
thorrvik55: 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:06am On Jun 21, 2021 |
hensben: Busquets na suegbe DM. Very lucky mofo. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:07am On Jun 21, 2021 |
thorrvik55:He was hugging the ball too much due to ball possession they played, probably it was part of the tactics to make ball possession effective so I can not really fault him. Messi was the one doing ozil work for Barca and also scoring, he was the one orchestrating offensive play that resulted to goals. Messi is god Abeg. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:07am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Trevor012: Transfermarkt only put you as an AM if you play in a 4-2-3-1. Their positioning is arbitrary. Lampard is also positioned as a CM in transfermarkt, same as Iniesta. Let's compare like for like na. When you are useless at your primary role, you will start denying your position like Simon Peter the son of Jonah. 15 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 9:07am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Trevor012: Brotherly, thanks. I was beginning to get confused myself. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:09am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Ibime: You are just tidying all loose ends with ease. It will be suicidal for them to move to Lampard vs Iniesta. What a trap !!! 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:12am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Ibime:that article is dated 2015 Ineista was 32, let's be realistic abeg Wetin mount dey find for high quality players conversation, mount's assist at that final doesn't count, e be like wizkid Grammy award, aided passengers |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:13am On Jun 21, 2021 |
Kovacic dey en lane, bullet still fly catch am. 8 Likes
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