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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:55pm On Nov 30, 2021
Exonerate1:
Toni Kroos had Jorginho as his Third choice for the Balon D'or after Benzema and Lewandoski

“You can only see the value of someone like Jorginho when you play against him or with him, he was one of the best midfielders in the world last year"

(Via his podcast)

The only person that killed Toni Kroos was Kante. Had Toni Kroos puffing and escorting for 180 minutes

He only voted Jorginho out of midfield solidarity cos Kante was out of the reckoning.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 2:59pm On Nov 30, 2021
Lewandowski was robbed just like how Sneijder, and Ronaldo were robbed in previous editions. Lewandowski have been scoring for fun in 2021 and his untimely injury ruined Bayern's chance of winning the UCL and when he returns back from injury he's been scoring fun . After Copa America Messi have been struggling for form and between now and then Lewandowski have been the better player so I don't know what criteria they use.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 3:17pm On Nov 30, 2021
Ibime:


The only person that killed Toni Kroos was Kante. Had Toni Kroos puffing and escorting for 180 minutes

He only voted Jorginho out of midfield solidarity cos Kante was out of the reckoning.

Toni kroos used his own mouth to praise jorginho and gave his reason why, but here you are telling us why YOU think Kross voted for jorginho.
Maybe you will also explain on behalf of others who managed to give him 460 points. grin grin grin

Are you beginning to see the similarities between you and havertz10?? His unhealthy hate and obsession with mount is now what you have developed against jorginho. Such a pity. grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 3:18pm On Nov 30, 2021
Amoto94:
Lewandowski was robbed just like how Sneijder, and Ronaldo were robbed in previous editions. Lewandowski have been scoring for fun in 2021 and his untimely injury ruined Bayern's chance of winning the UCL and when he returns back from injury he's been scoring fun . After Copa America Messi have been struggling for form and between now and then Lewandowski have been the better player so I don't know what criteria they use.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:29pm On Nov 30, 2021
donjazet:


Toni kroos used his own mouth to praise jorginho and gave his reason why, but here you are telling us why YOU think Kross voted for jorginho.

Are you beginning to see the similarities between you and havertz10?? His hate and obsession with mount is now what you have developed against jorginho. Such a pity. grin grin

We saw the match and we saw who killed Toni Kroos

Put yourself in Toni Kroos shoes, a player who plays your position will hardly get recognised or nominated, so when one has a chance of winning, you vote out of solidarity.

After the match, he only had praise for Kante. This one is just polling booth politics.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 3:35pm On Nov 30, 2021
Ibime:


We saw the match and we saw who killed Toni Kroos

Put yourself in Toni Kroos shoes, a player who plays your position will hardly get recognised or nominated, so when one has a chance of winning, you vote out of solidarity.

After the match, he only had praise for Kante. This one is just polling booth politics.
Praising jorginho is not mutually exclusive to praising kante.

It must not be one or the other. We have Kross here admiring both of our midfielders and voting one. He has given his reason for voting for one.
Why would you find it hard believing him?
What about the vast majority of others who gave jorginho 460 votes? Is it all pity votes??
Stop hating, my man.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Astrid4(m): 3:35pm On Nov 30, 2021
Chelsea press conference LIVE: Thomas Tuchel on Watford, Ballon d'Or, Lukaku, Kante and Kovacic

Do your forwards need to do more?



They try hard. Their contribution to the high press is immense, we can see that in the data. So maybe they don't arrive full relaxed, maybe the breathe hard and that costs us some precision. But we have scored many goals before.

It's a good sign that we are not happy with a draw against Man United. They have the quality to score for us. It's for us to bring them into positions that it's possible for them to score and to do this as often as possible.



Enough cover at left wing-back?


We have Marcos, who started the season for us when Chilly was in a bit of trouble and more difficult moment. We trust him, won Premier League games with him. He is very experienced. We have two specialists for one position, both play for their national teams, and it can be very hard for them as they compete for one position.

Suddenly, if one has a longer injury like Ben, it can seem like we don't have enough. Can Marcos play eight matches every three days, is that possible? Maybe not. Callum can play on the left side as a wing-back and we have some other ideas we have to try.



Tuchel on the Club World Cup


Mendy and Hakim will be back as I understand it, even if they reach the final. "t's in February, we still have December and January to play. I don't break my head about it. My focus is on Watford, my team selection and rotation.


Did you expect Lewandowski to win?

I take my rights to not have an opinion on this one.


How big a motivation is the Ballon d'Or?

For me, personally, not so much because I have huge doubts about individual awards in this game. It's a team effort, not one single player can win a match of football. It's not possible.



What do you know of Ranieri and what do you expect?

We see a difference in data and the style of the games. They play with more confidence and try to implement high pressing. They had a great result against Man United and try to play with emotion, get the crowd behind them. We see this.

Claudio Ranieri speaks for himself. He had so many clubs, such an expereinced coach. It will be the first time i play against him.



How do you handle the schedule?

It will be challenging but it will be challenging before. We don't change our routine. We have tight communication with the medical and fitness department and we tried to predict the load, look at who is overloaded and underloaded, and from there we see what we need in the next games. We still take it step by step, if you look too far ahead you will see there are tough weeks coming. That is why we focus on the details, the next game, maybe on the next two games where we can rely on our predictions because we have fantastic support from everybody. It's on the players to be strong in the games but to take recovery very seriously. We have to be very good in recovery and sleeping, taking the right food and supplements to help us recover. Our style is intense and needs to be to have a certain mentality and identity on the pitch. This is what we want. We are not scared to rotate, we just the whole squad.


Ballon d'Or awards

It's a nice award. It's a team effort if you're successful. All the men's and women's players deserved to be on that list. If individuals shine, it's because of a team effort. We have a strong academy, strong women's team, and we want to be a strong part of this club. So credit to the owner and everyone in charge."


Latest team news

Romelu is easy. He came on and continues to train. No reaction from his ankle. He is ready to progress in minutes. For sure out is Chilly, Kova and N'Golo. We have some doubts of players, more time and examinations. Reece James, Jorgi and Timo. They all trained today but there will be some last minute decisions.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 3:42pm On Nov 30, 2021
donjazet:

Praising jorginho is not mutually exclusive to praising kante.

It must not be one or the other. We have Kross here admiring both of our midfielders and voting one. He has giving his reason for voting for one.
Why would you find it hard believing him?
What about the vast majority of others who gave jorginho 460 votes? Is it all pity votes??
Stop hating, my man.

When a player wins two tournaments as starting player, he will get votes, even if it's Moussa Sissoko. it does not mean he was the best player or even close.

We saw the comments after the match, he did not have any praise for Jorginho. This is just politicking and solidarity

If Donnaruma hadn't saved those penalties, your guy wouldn't make top ten, simple

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 3:46pm On Nov 30, 2021
Ibime:


We saw the match and we saw who killed Toni Kroos

Put yourself in Toni Kroos shoes, a player who plays your position will hardly get recognised or nominated, so when one has a chance of winning, you vote out of solidarity.

After the match, he only had praise for Kante. This one is just polling booth politics.

Drop the ratings from your favorite whoscored after this game
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:00pm On Nov 30, 2021
Ibime:


When a player wins two tournaments as starting player, he will get votes, even if it's Moussa Sissoko. it does not mean he was the best player or even close.

We saw the comments after the match, he did not have any praise for Jorginho. This is just politicking and solidarity

If Donnaruma hadn't saved those penalties, your guy wouldn't make top ten, simple

Ibime is this the champions league match you keep talking about that Kroos is referencing? grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:02pm On Nov 30, 2021
Exonerate1:


Drop the ratings from your favorite whoscored after this game

I just did.
There is nothing Ibime would not say to discredit jorginho.

A player who was ever present and crucial to his teams success. But Ibime would like us to believe he's inconsequential. It can only be hate and obsession. grin grin grin

Ibime would like us to think that jorginho had played no vital role in both his club and country being successful despite being an ever present in the team and having consistency more than others.

Just like Ibime also told us that no 3 at the back formation would ever win the champions league until tuchel shamed him.

Ibime also said no team having jorginho in midfield can ever win the league. This is despite jorginho being crucial to an ultra-attacking team that reached 90 points in Italy. And here we are, performing highly again, defensively and attacking wise {creating high volume chances} and being top of the league. But this old man want us to believe that this incredible midfield comptroller is ineffective.
No be juju be that. grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Exonerate1(m): 4:04pm On Nov 30, 2021
First he was carried by Kante then he switched it to Verratti now it's Donnaruma grin grin

Just accept Jorginho is a good player and he makes whatever team he plays for look good

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:06pm On Nov 30, 2021
Exonerate1:


Drop the ratings from your favorite whoscored after this game

Drop the ratings from the final

Modric had that nigga dropping 30 passes again. He only got those points from being turned into a water carrier and making interceptions in a lowblock, having failed to establish midfield dominance

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:15pm On Nov 30, 2021
Havertz10:
yeah, I hate it when white tourist glamorize poverty in Nigeria, hated the video, his intentions were good but we all know that behind those smiles and optimisms are failed dreams and aspirations, the average Nigerian is 2 major disasters away from destitution

If major crisis like wildfire or earthquake occurs, you will see what I mean.


Well, I couldn't have asked for a better content, tired of those usual repetitive boring nonsense of Africans returning from diaspora and touring around ikoyi,maitama, wuse to give a false impression about the country. This is somehow real.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:28pm On Nov 30, 2021
Ibime:


Drop the ratings from the final

Modric had that nigga dropping 30 passes again. He only got those points from being turned into a water carrier and making interceptions in a lowblock, having failed to establish midfield dominance

How we went from talking about kroos to the UCL final is amazing. grin grin grin

E be like say you don learn Amala turning oo. cheesy
You are backed into a corner my friend. cheesy cheesy

Kroos voted for jorginho at the highest footballing honor in the game, giving his reason why. You went ahead to point out that when they played "against themselves", kante was who he really admired. I countered you to point out that praising both is not mutually exclusive and it even turns out that jorginho outperformed the 3 of them when they all played. Only for you to change mouth to the final. grin grin shame go gree you concede defeat? cheesy

Jorginho has done his fair share in is winning the champions league. It's a team effort afterall.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:35pm On Nov 30, 2021
donjazet:

But this old man want us to believe that this incredible midfielder comptroller is ineffective.
No be juju be that. grin grin grin

Stop repeating your lies.

Nothing comptroller about Jogginghoe

That's how one of your fellow Jorgisexuals boasted before Italy vs Spain that Jorginho will show Busquet, only for Busquet to dominate him like a rag doll. The nigga could only drop 30 passes in 120 minutes.

That's why Donnaruma is so important. Without him, nobody will nominate Jogginghoe for anything. In the politics of award shows, you look for those who won tournaments first before anything, that's the only reason Jogginghoe name was put forward

Imagine Xavi going into tournament and Iker Cassilas win player of the tournament.


swiz123:


Jorginho is currently light miles ahead of Busquet. What Popizaino feels and has is a nostalgia for an ideal Busquet which is no more. What he sees now is a relic of what's left of his career.

Busquet offers only finesse which Jorginho also offer... But other exceptional qualities that makes one a good DM, Jorgi currently posses them better than Busquet. Think of positional play, defensive awareness, good anticipation, covering grounds etc.... I watch both of them, I like both of them too.

I fear that he will inevitably realize all I have said today.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:39pm On Nov 30, 2021
donjazet:

Jorginho has done his fair share in is winning the champions league. It's a team effort afterall.

Go and check how many MOTM the other nominees won on their way to being nominated - Messi 28 MOTM, Lewa, Debruyne, Salah, Kante, all multiple man of the match. These are players who did it on the field.

Kante won MOTM in every UCL match from QF to Final. That's 5 matches in a row.

Jorginho is the only one in that nomination who did not do it on the field - only there as a result of a statistical anomaly, being the only player to win two trophies.

Even the Euros he went to, his goalkeeper was the one winning MOTM after he has been dominated all game into parking bus for penalties and hand over to Donnaruma

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 4:45pm On Nov 30, 2021
Amoto94:
Lewandowski was robbed just like how Sneijder, and Ronaldo were robbed in previous editions. Lewandowski have been scoring for fun in 2021 and his untimely injury ruined Bayern's chance of winning the UCL and when he returns back from injury he's been scoring fun . After Copa America Messi have been struggling for form and between now and then Lewandowski have been the better player so I don't know what criteria they use.
If the organizers of balor d'or is to go by your logic Messi would have won his 9th balor d'or as far back as 2019 and Cr7 would have won 1

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:48pm On Nov 30, 2021
Ibime:


Kante won MOTM in every UCL match from QF to Final. That's 7 matches in a row.

You don't have to start lying. Kante did not win MOTM 7 matches straight.

Secondly, we all know that players who play further forward will be seen more and hence have higher potential to be MOTM. rarely would deep playing players be observed since it's always by polling. But however statistically we can see below that jorginho was our best player in 2 matches of the QF and semifinal

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:52pm On Nov 30, 2021
donjazet:


You don't have to start lying. Kante did not win MOTM 7 matches straight.

Secondly, we all know that players who play further forward will be seen more and hence have higher potential to be MOTM. rarely would deep playing players be observed since it's always by polling. But however statistically we can see below that jorginho was our best player in 2 matches of the QF and semifinal

5 matches in a row, excuse me. QF to Final

Kante is in a midfield 2 like Jorginho, so is Debruyne

So called midfield comptroller that will get dominated by any decent midfielder he faces, and leave it to the goalkeeper to win the matches. If it's to face Fred-Tominay, then he will start making noise.

Imagine Xavi leaving the on-field match winning performances to Iker Casillas

You won't see Debruyne, Messi, Lewa, Salah etc leaving any of their club player of the season to Mason Mount or their goalkeeper, but Jorginho wants to sneak in through backdoor on statistical anomaly

Show me a pic of Jorginho holding MOTM award in any major game in the year of our Lord 2021

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mosdii(m): 5:08pm On Nov 30, 2021
It's Match Day Tomorrow

C'mon Blues

KTBFFH

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 5:23pm On Nov 30, 2021
Why una dey hate on jorginho?

Abi una sabi pass tuchel undecided

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dostr4(m): 5:33pm On Nov 30, 2021
congrats jorjiboy unto tomorrow , expecting to see ziyech ,pulisic & havertz(i think these two combine really well) we need maximum points after that display on sunday ,still expecting to see a slight rotation,. Will love to see saul get game time but we miss energy in the middle of the park. We should be searching for kantes replacement ,mans is getting injured or is our trainings a bit intense.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by JONSYN7154: 5:36pm On Nov 30, 2021
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mosdii:
It's Match Day Tomorrow

C'mon Blues

KTBFFH

In mosdii's voice.

All blues are useless...All of them grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:47pm On Nov 30, 2021
RLC better grab all this opportunities given to him right now or never.Me I am are running out of patience before I will start another campaign against him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 6:57pm On Nov 30, 2021
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:11pm On Nov 30, 2021
cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:14pm On Nov 30, 2021
gustav25:


Sharrap , we need your salty tears to help keep the ocean healthy
grin grin cheesy

Bold of you to think Messi can’t be trolled.


Make everywhere calm first, you’ll explain to why Mbappe was ordering Messi to lie down and defend free kick.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:27pm On Nov 30, 2021
donstan18:

grin grin cheesy

Bold of you to think Messi can’t be trolled.


Make everywhere calm first, you’ll explain to why Mbappe was ordering Messi to lie down and defend free kick.

Where did you see Mbappe?

Abi Mbappe don turn ref

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 7:45pm On Nov 30, 2021
BlueMann:


Where did you see Mbappe?

Abi Mbappe don turn ref
Chairman look the picture well na, Na mbappe dey for Wizkid back
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by UncleHaba22: 7:57pm On Nov 30, 2021
donstan18:

So your point is?

You are in pain grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by gustav25: 8:04pm On Nov 30, 2021
donstan18:

grin grin cheesy

Bold of you to think Messi can’t be trolled.


Make everywhere calm first, you’ll explain to why Mbappe was ordering Messi to lie down and defend free kick.

Fowl fowl fowl.... Are you out of salt yet ? Fyi, it was Marquinhos , El Captaine that ordered him to take that position for the team. But I know you won't know because you know nothing dear Penaldian

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