Android22:
I told you and the other guy, don't do personals because they are not in your favour. For e.g Dayo said Muller was played behind the striker but you without comprehension issues said he said Muller NEVER played as a striker. I don't know if I should laugh or cry for you.

Dayo said Muller played behind the main striker or from the wings...
I correctly pointed out that he's actually been played as a striker most notably by Pep but wasn't successful...
The question was, yes or no and the answer is yes.....You yourself asked if I was sure he had been tried there and I proved it..
This is you asking if I'm sure Muller had ever been tried as a striker..

Point out how Jota scoring means Firmino failed which was the initial point of the debate and you keep on flailing hopelessly because you can't discern both play differently....

Android22:
lol tried as a striker means he was not a striker for the team. Remember when John Terry was "tried" as a keeper? lol. Did that make him one?

My initial address to Dayo said "He's been tried"..
You went ahead to ask if I was sure(He had been tried there ) and I didn't only respond in the affirmative, I proved it was Pep that did..
Terry was goalie because no other goalie was available on the bench which isn't the same as Muller was deployed as a striker more than once..

AnfieldFan:


Dayo said Muller played behind the main striker or from the wings...

So he did not say Muller was NEVER tried as a striker, right?

I correctly pointed out that he's actually been played as a striker most notably by Pep but wasn't successful...

No, it said with mixed results. But I have comprehension issues, right?

The question was, yes or no and the answer is yes.....You yourself asked if I was sure he had been tried there and I proved it..

I asked if you were sure he was unsuccessful there.

This is you asking if I'm sure Muller had ever been tried as a striker..

Again, I asked if you were sure he was unsuccessful there.

Point out how Jota scoring means Firmino failed which was the initial point of the debate and you keep on flailing hopelessly because you can't discern both play differently....

Oh I will have a Jota/Firminho debate when I am sure you understand your own argument.

AnfieldFan:


My initial address to Dayo said "He's been tried"..
You went ahead to ask if I was sure(He had been tried there ) and I didn't only respond in the affirmative, I proved it was Pep that did..
Terry was goalie because no other goalie was available on the bench which isn't the same as Muller was deployed as a striker more than once..

Read exactly what I highlighted before responding. You accused me of having comprehension issues but that insult seems like it is coming back to haunt you. The article you cited said Muller had been tried there on occasion with mixed results. That contradicts the claim you were trying to support which is that he was a striker (Kloppo) or that he was largely unsuccessful there. Did you worry about "why" he was tried there - like you tried to for John Terry?

Android22:
So he did not say Muller was NEVER tried as a striker, right?
No, it said with mixed results. But I have comprehension issues, right?
I asked if you were sure he was unsuccessful there.
Again, I asked if you were sure he was unsuccessful there.
Oh I will have a Jota/Firminho debate when I am sure you understand your own argument.

He disagreed with a post that said Muller played as a striker by pointing out that Muller has always played either behind ba striker or from the wings..

I said he has been tried out there by Pep but didn't continue because it was unsuccessful..

Bring on the Bobby slander, none will be tolerated and all will be checked...

AnfieldFan:


He disagreed with a post that said Muller played as a striker by pointing out that Muller has always played either behind ba striker or from the wings..

I said he has been tried out there by Pep but didn't continue because it was unsuccessful..

Bring on the Bobby slander, none will be tolerated and all will be checked...

He disagreed with the argument that Muller was Bayern's striker. Kloppo said Muller failing there made Pep get Lewandowski and make Muller a defensive striker. Comprehension again.

Android22:
Read exactly what I highlighted before responding. You accused me of having comprehension issues but that insult seems like it is coming back to haunt you. The article you cited said Muller had been tried there on occasion with mixed results. That contradicts the claim you were trying to support which is that he was a striker (Kloppo) or that he was largely unsuccessful there. Did you worry about "why" he was tried there - like you tried to for John Terry?

He was unsuccessful as a striker...
Antonio hasn't always been a striker but he's playing that now because he's produced results...
You have comprehension issues because you're trying to nitpick something by drawing different analogies to hold up your initial position...

Android22:
He disagreed with the argument that Muller was Bayern's striker. Kloppo said Muller failing there made Pep get Lewandowski and make Muller a defensive striker. Comprehension again.

And I'm telling you that Kloppo's post isn't my business....I corrected Dayo by telling him that Muller actually played matches as a striker....Not one single match, matches, Plural...

AnfieldFan:


He was unsuccessful as a striker...
Antonio hasn't always been a striker but he's playing that now because he's produced results...
You have comprehension issues because you're trying to nitpick something by drawing different analogies to hold up your initial position...

Your own article said he had mixed results - some good and some bad games. So we now agree on 2 things, he was not a striker even though he was tried there and he was not unsuccessful there. The results were mixed. Is that clear?

AnfieldFan:


And I'm telling you that Kloppo's post isn't my business....I corrected Dayo by telling him that Muller actually played matches as a striker....Not one single match, matches, Plural...

Did Dayo say Muller was never used as a striker? Comprehension again.

Naija boys are mocking Watford and Dennis. They have lost every game since AFCON started, nullifying their reason for not releasing him to Naija. The Babalawo that tied his leg no get joy

Android22:
Your own article said he had mixed results - some good and some bad games. So we now agree on 2 things, he was not a striker even though he was tried there and he was not unsuccessful there. The results were mixed. Is that clear?

Guy, I initially stated and have since maintained he was tried as a striker and wasn't successful...

Infact, what led Pep to try him out was because he wasn't particularly good at anything...

Ibime:
Naija boys are mocking Watford and Dennis. They have lost every game since AFCON started, nullifying their reason for not releasing him to Naija. The Babalawo that tied his leg no get joy

Lmaooo.

Android22:
Did Dayo say Muller was never used as a striker? Comprehension again.

He said he played from the wings and behind the striker.. He was trying to be clever by half...
Pep tried him as the striker the same way he tried him on the left of a front three of Lewa and Ribbery and he didn't get the returns Pep wanted till Pep discovered putting him very close behind the main striker was the best solution...Pep tried him out as a nine and winger numerous times over two seasons not until his final season in which Muller became the SS..
By omitting that fact, he implied he wasn't played there and I corrected him....

Kloppo never said Lewa was bought for Muller because Muller played 9 occasionally and Lewa was in Bayern then...

AnfieldFan:


Guy, I initially stated and have since maintained he was tried as a striker and wasn't successful...

Infact, what led Pep to try him out was because he wasn't particularly good at anything...

The highlighted is what I challenged and you are still proving me right. Muller was TRIED as a striker -therefore he was not one. In addition, Muller was not unsuccessful there, he had some good games and some bad games. Do you understand now?

Android22:
The highlighted is what I challenged and you are still proving me right. Muller was TRIED as a striker -therefore he was not one. In addition, Muller was not unsuccessful there, he had some good games and some bad games. Do you understand now?

He played as a false 9 and center forward and also as a winger but none worked out...
Pep saw this and tried him out very close to the center forward and he clicked....

Android22:
The highlighted is what I challenged and you are still proving me right. Muller was TRIED as a striker -therefore he was not one. In addition, Muller was not unsuccessful there, he had some good games and some bad games. Do you understand now?

Him not being a striker is because he couldn't deliver the goods...

Bobby was originally on the wings for Liverpool under Rodgers and an AM in Germany, Klopp turned him to a false nine and it stuck because he delivered what Klopp wanted...

AnfieldFan:


He said he played from the wings and behind the striker.. He was trying to be clever by half...
Pep tried him as the striker the same way he tried him on the left of a front three of Robben and Ribbery and he didn't get the returns Pep wanted till Pep discovered putting him very close behind the main striker was the best solution...Pep tried him out as a nine and winger numerous times over two seasons not until his final season in which Muller became the SS..
By omitting that fact, he implied he wasn't played there and I corrected him....

Kloppo never said Lewa was bought for Muller because Muller played 9 occasionally and Lewa was in Bayern then...

Dayo said Muller was not Bayern's striker and that Bayern always hand Mandzukic, Gomez and Lewa playing ahead of Muller. Kloppo said Muller's failure as a striker made Bayern get Lewa and move Muller to other positions. You challenged Dayo (which means you supported Kloppo) by saying Muller was tried there and that he was unsuccessful. Does that not imply you are backing Kloppo's claims? Your own evidence instead says Muller was tried there ON OCCASION and that the results were mixed. Which proves that Kloppo was wrong (and you by proxy). Simple.

AnfieldFan:


He played as a false 9 and center forward and also as a winger but none worked out...
Pep saw this and tried him out very close to the center forward and he clicked....

That is still unsubstantiated. The evidence you brought said he had mixed results.

Android22:
Dayo said Muller was not Bayern's striker and that Bayern always hand Mandzukic, Gomez and Lewa playing ahead of Muller. Kloppo said Muller's failure as a striker made Bayern get Lewa and move Muller to other positions. You challenged Dayo (which means you supported Kloppo) by saying Muller was tried there and that he was unsuccessful. Does that not imply you are backing Kloppo's claims? Your own evidence instead says Muller was tried there ON OCCASION and that the results were mixed. Which proves that Kloppo was wrong (and you by proxy). Simple.

Dayo said Bobby's numbers as striker for Liverpool have been poor ..
Kloppo stated that Muller had bad numbers as a striker as well that made him get pushed to SS where he thrives..
Dayo countered by saying Muller has always played either behind a striker or from the wings which is wrong because Pep experimented Muller from both the wings and as a striker (Dayo knew Pep tried him from both the flank and as a striker but purposely omitted the striker part)..

At this Juncture, I point out that Pep actually tried him as a striker but he wasn't successful...
This made Pep try him out in the SS role where he thrives and has remained ever since...

Android22:
That is still unsubstantiated. The evidence you brought said he had mixed results.

What, when did you start watching Bayern... Everybody knows this..

Muller said this himself..

AnfieldFan:


Him not being a striker is because he couldn't deliver the goods...

Bobby was originally on the wings for Liverpool under Rodgers and an AM in Germany, Klopp turned him to a false nine and it stuck because he delivered what Klopp wanted...

No your article said he was not physical enough however, that is irrelevant as he had some good games and some bad ones. Now, the argument that Bobby succeeded at what Klopp told him is the Jota/Bobby argument I said was Kloppaganda. Bobby was sterile as a scorer. False 9 does not mean false scorer. I will say more when you finally understand your own argument.

Android22:
No your article said he was not physical enough however, that is irrelevant as he had some good games and some bad ones. Now, the argument that Bobby succeeded at what Klopp told him is the Jota/Bobby argument I said was Kloppaganda. Bobby was sterile as a scorer. False 9 does not mean false scorer. I will say more when you finally understand your own argument.

Him not being physical enough, losing possession too many times, not being a good dribbler all contributed...

On to Bobby/Jota

Bobby in direct comparison to Jota will never be entertained by people with strong football knowledge as both do different things on the pitch...

AnfieldFan:


What, when did you start watching Bayern... Everybody knows this..

Muller said this himself..

Your article does not say he was unsuccessful for the millionth time. I don't want to have to start pointing out the discrepancy between what you are saying, to what Muller said.

Android22:
No your article said he was not physical enough however, that is irrelevant as he had some good games and some bad ones. Now, the argument that Bobby succeeded at what Klopp told him is the Jota/Bobby argument I said was Kloppaganda. Bobby was sterile as a scorer. False 9 does not mean false scorer. I will say more when you finally understand your own argument.

My stance has been clear from the onset as I've stated them emphatically numerous times throughout the entirety of this convo...

Android22:
Your article does not say he was unsuccessful for the millionth time. I don't want to have to start pointing out the discrepancy between what you are saying, to what Muller said.

Semantics...Same thing in different wordings...

AnfieldFan:

Him not being physical enough, losing possession too many times, not being a good dribbler all contributed...

On to Bobby/Jota

Bobby in direct comparison to Jota will never be entertained by people with strong football knowledge as both do different things on the pitch...

I agree they do different things on the pitch but the argument I said I shied away from was the one that people said playing in that false 9 role for Liverpool is what affected Bobby's numbers. I support the argument that "Jota still scoring goals playing in that position proves that being sterile for Bobby is not down to the position" but to an incompetency on his part.

This thread mheen!

Android22:
I agree they do different things on the pitch but the argument I said I shied away from was the one that people said playing in that false 9 role for Liverpool is what affected Bobby's numbers. I support the argument that "Jota still scoring goals playing in that position proves that being sterile for Bobby is not down to the position" but to an incompetency on his part.

Which position?

AnfieldFan:


Semantics...Same thing in different wordings...

Muller said he did not like playing there because he wanted to be more involved in the build up etc. In other words, if Muller scored a hattrick in a game by just tapping in, he would not like it because he was less involved in the build up etc which he preferred. That does not mean he was unsuccessful there. In some games he scored and in some he did not.

Android22:
Muller said he did not like playing there because he wanted to be more involved in the build up etc. In other words, if Muller scored a hattrick in a game by just tapping in, he would not like it because he was less involved in the build up etc which he preferred. That does not mean he was unsuccessful there. In some games he scored and in some he did not.

If he was scoring, having few touches of the ball in game wouldn't matter...He wasn't asserting himself and he wasn't bringing the return numbers Guardiola wanted..

AnfieldFan:


Which position?

False 9.