popizaino:



What makes him a fraud?

Please, don't make him change topic. I beg you.

Jokerman:


Was it Mourinho that bought modric or Ancelloti?

He was signed when Mourinho was manager and yes Mourinho played him out of position that first season.

CAPdan21:

the argument has always been that firmino main role as a Liverpool is not a penalty box specialist...dsame firmino you are trying to ridicule has scored 27goals in a season...why don't you compare salah numbers to prime robben/ribery shey na dsame position dem dey play na..

The fact that he scored 27 goals in a season from that position actually works against you because it proves that he was in that position to score goals.

AnfieldFan:


You won't ever see me involved in these asinine comparisons because I know better...
Muller was tried as a striker by Pep and it didn't work out... Doesn't take away from Muller's abilities as a player...
People sometimes post false things and other people run with it...
Like the guy that said Klopp knowingly lied about the Covid outbreak from an Athletic article he didn't bother reading to the end...
I just don't have the patience to suffer these inanities (the posts not the individuals) if not I would be calling out false info most days...

Are you sure?

AnfieldFan:


You won't ever see me involved in these asinine comparisons because I know better...
Muller was tried as a striker by Pep and it didn't work out... Doesn't take away from Muller's abilities as a player...
People sometimes post false things and other people run with it...
Like the guy that said Klopp knowingly lied about the Covid outbreak from an Athletic article he didn't bother reading to the end...
I just don't have the patience to suffer these inanities (the posts not the individuals) if not I would be calling out false info most days...

When Muller was tried as a striker where was Lewandowski and Mandzukic ?

Kloppo:


Lool,before lewandoski came who was the top 9 ,where was robben playing if muller was on the flank?

Olic, gomez, mandzukic

Kloppo:


Dfkm...Jota wasnt even a 9 at wolves,you just wan push your firmino agenda....jiminez was their 9 flanked by Adama/podence/jota/neto

So why is Jota a left winger outscoring a Striker like Firmino

Kloppo:


Same can be said of Muller the striker who turned into a defensive striker because of his bad stats who was then pushed to other roles for strikers with numbers?

Cos pep and ancelotti both rightly called him a STRIKER

Muller always played behind a striker or as a right winger unlike Bobby no goal who is a barren striker

CAPdan21:

the argument has always been that firmino main role as a Liverpool is not a penalty box specialist...dsame firmino you are trying to ridicule has scored 27goals in a season...why don't you compare salah numbers to prime robben/ribery shey na dsame position dem dey play na..

Jota is also not a penalty box specialist yet is scoring while Firmino is there forming activity

AnfieldFan:


Still yet you being wrong once again, Jota hasn't started enough games in place of Bobby to say he's benched him...When both are fit, Bobby has started more games...

You mean Jota has started less games and has scored almost double the goals of Bobby Firmnogoal. That is even worse

Android22:
Okay. So you don't mask your ignorance, you wear it on your chest right? Clap for yourself.

I do not claim to know things I don't know, I ask questions or do my research personally...

raumdeuter:


One performs the role of a scorer and knows where the post is, one is an activity former which is why he has been sitting on the bench more and more

activity former

Android22:
The fact that he scored 27 goals in a season from that position actually works against you because it proves that he was in that position to score goals.

Nah...it shows that he has the capability to score goals but playing him as a penalty box striker diminishes his main strengths which is to come deep and draw defenders out of position as showcased in jota first goal yesterday...No be for this thread people dey yab lukaku for lack of movement

Android22:
Are you sure?

Yes

AnfieldFan:


I do not claim to know things I don't know, I ask questions or do my research personally...

Okay. So do I.

raumdeuter:


When Muller was tried as a striker where was Lewandowski and Mandzukic ?

Ask Pep who decided to play him there...

CAPdan21:

Nah...it shows that he has the capability to score goals but playing him as a penalty box striker diminishes his main strengths which is to come deep and draw defenders out of position as showcased in jota first goal yesterday...No be for this thread people dey yab lukaku for lack of movement

Was he not drawing defenders out when he scored 27 goals?

raumdeuter:


Muller always played behind a striker or as a right winger unlike Bobby no goal who is a barren striker

Shalaye...in Bobby's last season as an AM for midtable hoffeinham in burndisliga he posted 16 goals and 12 assist...how many times has Muller bettered this despite playing for table topping bayern

raumdeuter:


So why is Jota a left winger outscoring a Striker like Firmino

The same way wingers like Salah keep outscoring most strikers Or Mbappe outscored Cavani in the 2018/19 season...

raumdeuter:


You mean Jota has started less games and has scored almost double the goals of Bobby Firmnogoal. That is even worse

Bobby's been injured most of the season while Jota's been fit...

Android22:
Was he not drawing defenders out when he scored 27 goals?

Lol...Liverpool of 2017/18 played more as a counterattacking team go watch most of their goals in the Ucl...when teams saw their firepower they started sitting deeper which means firmino had to drop deeper to create space for mane and salah in a crowded penalty box

CAPdan21:

Nah...it shows that he has the capability to score goals but playing him as a penalty box striker diminishes his main strengths which is to come deep and draw defenders out of position as showcased in jota first goal yesterday...No be for this thread people dey yab lukaku for lack of movement

I referenced him setting our first goal in motion yesterday, it's refreshing to see people who actually know what they are watching instead of regurgitating nauseating opinions ...

AnfieldFan:


Yes

Grealish has been tried as a striker as well with very mixed results. Does that make him one?

AnfieldFan:


I referenced him setting our first goal in motion yesterday, it's refreshing to see people who actually know what they are watching instead of regurgitating nauseating opinions ...

Dayo is just being mischievous...let him bring his legends ribery/robben let's compare their stats to salah/mane

CAPdan21:

Lol...Liverpool of 2017/18 played more as a counterattacking team go watch most of their goals in the Ucl...when teams saw their firepower they started sitting deeper which means firmino had to drop deeper to create space for mane and salah in a crowded penalty box

So when this happened in 2017/18 did he still not score?

Android22:
Grealish has been tried as a striker as well with very mixed results. Does that make him one?

Irrelevant, the question was; did Pep try him as a striker?

Yes or No..
Answer is Yes...
Any other thing is you trying to wiggle...

Muller's one of the greatest players of his generation, him failing as a striker doesn't detract from that...

CAPdan21:

Dayo is just being mischievous...let him bring his legends ribery/robben let's compare their stats to salah/mane

He won't try it...The same person that rates Boateng ahead of Terry, there's a method to his madness..
He's a jolly good fella though..

Android22 on the other hand doesn't understand his position on the topic...

Android22:
So when this happened in 2017/18 did he still not score?

What I was talking about was after that season which was salah first season...Klopp even referenced it in pre-season ahead of the 2018/19 season

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.skysports.com/football/liverpoolattack&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwikzpmP6MP1AhU4h_0HHVqQBD0QFnoECAsQAg&usg=AOvVaw2cDFqSvsf0NJRcLT9dxF3X

CAPdan21:

Shalaye...in Bobby's last season as an AM for midtable hoffeinham in burndisliga he posted 16 goals and 12 assist...how many times has Muller bettered this despite playing for table topping bayern

Last season Muller had 11 goals and 22 assists. That is more than Firmino ever did any season in his career

AnfieldFan:


Irrelevant, the question was; did Pep try him as a striker?

Yes or No..
Answer is Yes...
Any other thing is you trying to wiggle...

Muller's one of the greatest players of his generation, him failing as a striker doesn't detract from that...

You are confusing yourself. You tried to argue that Muller was deployed primarily as a striker and he did not do well. The Bayern fan showed you that Bayern always had primary strikers with Muller playing behind then you pointed to the fact that he was "tried" there on occasion with mixed results. So I pointed out to you that Grealish has been subjected to the same however it does not make him a striker - just like Muller. Case dismissed.

CAPdan21:

What I was talking about was after that season which was salah first season...Klopp even referenced it in pre-season ahead of the 2018/19 season

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.skysports.com/football/liverpoolattack&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwikzpmP6MP1AhU4h_0HHVqQBD0QFnoECAsQAg&usg=AOvVaw2cDFqSvsf0NJRcLT9dxF3X

I already called it Kloppaganda and you are still citing Klopp. Will a good manager not extol any little virtue in his underperfoming player to encourage him?