ollah1:



You aren't too smart after all. Why didn't you paste the ages of the players in the squad in his debut season at Barca? Whey skip a couple of seasons and move to 2010?






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lordfalcao:
what you wrote was very easy to understand bro when you said this...
Conte wanted lukaku but someone at the top said no and gave him batshuayi, which to me its a lie.

donjazet:
Many peeps have been undermining mourinhos successes with the tag cheque book manager despite his underdog triumphs, what the hell do we call this bald fraud? The fact that many of peps apostles agree that he has to spend at least another 100 million on his defense goes to show you who the cheque-book manager tag should be on.
You don't have to have the best players at all the positions! No!! You coach some to be better, you create a system that plays to their strength or you teach them to adapt to your system. Conte did that at juve, he is doing that at Chelsea, klop is doing that at Liverpool. I mean how do you concede four goals unreplied to a team that had 3 under 21s?? Holgate, Davies and look man
That is evidence of tactical inflexibility and shows his ineptitude in tactical changes and nuances.
Otamendi is not soo poor, kolarov is very decent and technical, stones just needs better guidance. City has a very rich squad and one of the most expensively assembled squad. FIND A SYSTEM THAT WORKS!!

Look at Chelsea, who could have thought Moses would be a very effective rightback? Or azpilicueta would be one of the best centrebacks despite his height? Or matic would also power a two man midfield despite being redundant in a 3 man midfield last season?

Look at Liverpool, who could have thought milner would be an effective left back, or firminho would effectively play the false 9 position? He has turned sluggish players like wijnaldum(spell check) and Anderson into power horses.
Goddammit pep, FIND THAT BALANCE!!! BE RESOURCEFUL!!! prove to your apostles that you are indeed the saviour of English football! No more excuses for these wobbles.

raumdeuter:


Now compare that to
sagna Kolarov Kompany otamendi Fernandinho Yaya Silva

Mostly over 30 and can't play Peps way.

One of Peps tactics is to have a full back bombing down. Alves one of the most attacking full backs of all time was deployed to devastating effect. Which of those tired legs full backs can race up and down the flanks like Alves or alaba.

And what will he create the new Busquets pedro Messi from? Clay? All these are from the youth team. Has anyone sensible been produced from the city academy

Who will recycle possession like Busquets, play from the back like Pique, bomb down the flanks like alves etc

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You can't defend Pep

Inherited the best, spent the most.....

After beating West Ham 5-0,the proud man said he knows the EPL code until Everton changed the password

The best attacking talents aren't scoring goals so don't tell me it's about the defence


Conte has improved Hazard, Costa, Pedro, Luis, A pic, Moses
Klopp has improved Coutinho, Firmino, Can, Clyne
Mourinho has improved Rojo, Jones, Valencia, Herrera

Please name one player that Pep has improved at City?? Little wonder the baldinho wanted 11 new players for Chelsea ,he can't make players better

Is Nateevs going to tell me that as at August Rojo, Jones and Darmian were better than Mangala, Demichelis,Stones and Sagna

Klopp is killing it with Klavan,Lovren and Lucas.... Even Miller na LB

The problem is not Pep. The problem is everyone else that believes he should be what they think. Why is it hard to appreciate that he will not bend? It's a matter of opinion. He thinks you should not compromise your ideals to fit the popular mantra, you think not. What makes you right and him not? He's won over 15 years trophies doing it his way. Where's the problem?

People should stop the overflogged topic of "This is how Pep should do it". "He needs to find a system that works" News Flash! He doesn't. Because he has proven it. Even before he came, we all knew what he was about? So why everyone dey shout from roof-top to be heard? Free the guy abeg

And kindly let me correct a notion. Pep doesn't need £100m to build a squad. This is a misguided intepretation of Pep's requirement of players. His ideology is not hinged on the total amount spent but the fundamental technical capbility of each player. Even if that player costs £5m. In essence, this means that a Mangala may have cost £35m and be very fit for a Jose system, does not mean he is fit for Pep's. This thing is not hard.

CONTEDDICTED:
You can't defend Pep

Inherited the best, spent the most.....

After beating West Ham 5-0,the proud man said he knows the EPL code until Everton changed the password

The best attacking talents aren't scoring goals so don't tell me it's about the defence


Conte has improved Hazard, Costa, Pedro, Luis, A pic, Moses
Klopp has improved Coutinho, Firmino, Can, Clyne
Mourinho has improved Rojo, Jones, Valencia, Herrera

Please name one player that Pep has improved at City?? Little wonder the baldinho wanted 11 new players for Chelsea ,he can't make players better

Is Nateevs going to tell me that as at August Rojo, Jones and Darmian were better than Mangala, Demichelis,Stones and Sagna

Klopp is killing it with Klavan,Lovren and Lucas.... Even Miller na LB

Nihilist:


I am only responsible for what I write bro, what you take away from it is your own responsibility.

donjazet:
Man city brought every single player they were linked with during the summer which means his targets for his plans were acquired.

donjazet:
We argue that this system was made more successful and lifted higher with the performances of Messi and not really any tactical ingenuity of pep! Added also was the fact that the league wasnt really competitive. There was no one to effectively challenge the system bar a struggling Madrid. That is why many wanted him to leave Barça and come to the EPL where he was sure to be tested and alas, he is failing massively so far.

raumdeuter:


Most of your post are filled with personal opinions and most of them arent backed up by facts.

nateevs:


The bane of contention comes down to this. Regurgitated baseless opinion, being masked as fact, now settling into the consciousness of the ordinary football follower.

One will think that you were in the boardroom. Meanwhile, Nihilist posts a snippet from an article stating that Pep said in the past, that City needs 11 new players. However, your task will be easier if you chose to ignore this. And I understand. Afterall, having an opinion is easy. Having an informed opinion on the other hand. . . . .


I state again. I have no love for the guy but he is damn good at what he does. You want him to do it the way YOU THINK is best. My question is who are you to say so? You have not managed a footballer for one day and you are here criticising a fella who has won over a dozen trophies.

His employers are not complaining. Perhaps they are even waiting patiently to give him his own tools, you don't know. But you are taking Phensic and Alabukun for Headache that doesn't consign you. Weh done Sir!

Nihilist:


I am only responsible for what I write bro, what you take away from it is your own responsibility.

lalaboi:
Wow.. . .I am amazed.

Some guys here are quick to point out that Mourinho cannot achieve without spending but then make a case for Pep needing 11 new players to succeed.

Really?? A supposedly 'world' class' manager needs a complete overhaul of a team that won the league just 3 years before and have spent millions on upgrade. . Are we playing football manager

Make una suffery suffery dey talk some things o.

lalaboi:
Wow.. . .I am amazed.

Some guys here are quick to point out that Mourinho cannot achieve without spending but then make a case for Pep needing 11 new players to succeed.

Really?? A supposedly 'world' class' manager needs a complete overhaul of a team that won the league just 3 years before and have spent millions on upgrade. . Are we playing football manager

Make una suffery suffery dey talk some things o.

Antonio Conte is here and the headline news is that Diego Costa is available for this weekend's game with Hull on Sunday, live on Sky Sports 1HD, having 'fully recovered' from his back injury.

"Yes he is available for the game against Hull. He started to train on Tuesday with the rest of the team. He trained very well and he is fit. He hasn’t got any pain in his back."

Spy360:

If Klopp, Poch or Koeman had picked up Stones, they would have been shattering glasses upandan.

Pep was the hype not Stones.

Nihilist:


Zing!!!

Good that Costa is back though....even if he is an Oloshi extraordinaire...

nateevs:


I don't think I intimidate people on here. So if a post is meant to be directed to me, 'then be man, do the right thing'! . (By the way that's from Peter Russell)

To the post, I knew this was coming and I knew it will come because of a fundamental lack of understand of the concepts behind the arguments.

This is it. It is futile arguing that any manager does not need money to win. Anyone caught saying that, should be imprisoned. Both managers need money. He'll even Fergie needed/needs money.

The fundamental difference between Pep and JM is that people hire JM when they want to win trophies. End of. Success. End of!

However only deceitful people do not admit that when Pep is hired, it goes a little further than just Success. Fact! Pep then says, you want my 'style', to achieve it, so so are the conditions. Including mentioning that, I do not care what your current stock is, I know my style inside out and your stock us incompatible with the conditions of my set up. Simple!

And that's the truth. In other words, it doesn't matter if your stock cost you a billion. If you come lusting after my style, you have to chunk out and replace.

Now how hard is this to understand?



You lot are now coming to tell the guy to adapt. Adapt bawo? Are we all in denial of why he was hired? Did he not state his terms and conditions? And you claiming adapt and declaring he is wrong. Why should he adapt? The guy is in no denial of why he was hired.

airmark:


If a coach wants his team to break bank, it's possible, especially in a team with a certain sheikh monsur. Pep is enjoying what he didnt enjoy at bayern. After their pre-season match against dortmund , he was asked and he confirmed he wanted stones and sane, despite the huge tags. When he didnt want hart, nobody stopped him. Even when fans were crying, he was determined and bravo was brought in. He didnt need to hold any check book to force the hands of those with it. He gave man city's management conditions before accepting their offer. He determines who to push for and who to let go. He showed yaya toure he was the boss and no one stopped him. He is solely responsible for stones' sh1t.

Nihilist:


Exactly, Jose wanted Pogba- we reportedly offered over 60m before deciding enough was enough. He went to Manyoo and they gave him Pogba for almost 100m.

Conte said he wanted Lukaku. We threw 55m at Everton...they said they didn't want. Somebody upstairs said enough is enough and went to buy Batshuayi. We know Conte is not happy with what he has in the striking department but he can't don anything about it.

Conte at City would probably have gotten not just Lukaku senior, but his useless aburo, and their mum to work in thr club kitchen pounding yam.

When there's hype there's hype. That's the way football works.

Nihilist:


Time will tell but I agree that Pep is a great coach. But anyone can be a great coach with Messi on the roster. You don't even need to be alive - That's why he needs to prove himself here and now.

Let's see how he gets on.

lalaboi:




Anyone that hires pep knows he's not staying there for long as he loses interest that quick. Even after he's gone, do you think the club will want to continue with his 'style'? How is Bayern faring without him now? Did they continue with his 'style? off course not, It was binned the minute they hired another manager. I cannot say the same about Barcelona because they eat drink and shiit that style of play from the academy.
Case in point - Barely a year into the City job he's talking about retiring. I can bet my saving on it, He won't do any longer than his previous spells at Bayern and Barca. so what is the point of hiring him if not to win immediately (Priority)

Nihilist:


Zing!!!

Good that Costa is back though....even if he is an Oloshi extraordinaire...