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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coolluk(m): 12:47pm On May 16, 2017
A40:

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coolluk(m): 12:50pm On May 16, 2017
timbros:


You dey mind them?

Bad belle is allowed sha.

We know them

Comparing Kante to a player whose career highlights is marking hazard in a game

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:04pm On May 16, 2017
lordfalcao:
before begovic came to Chelsea he is top 5 goalie, not disputed..

Since he came to Chelsea he has been another Valdez..

Show me a match begovic started this season that he didn't concede 2 goals each?? Is that a coincidence or what??. Begovic is a keep who lacks positional discipline, he is a terrible back up
don't blame him... He always plays with reserves...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:31pm On May 16, 2017
lordfalcao:
before begovic came to Chelsea he is top 5 goalie, not disputed..

Since he came to Chelsea he has been another Valdez..

Show me a match begovic started this season that he didn't concede 2 goals each?? Is that a coincidence or what??. Begovic is a keep who lacks positional discipline, he is a terrible back up

Let me tell you, Begovic is as good a backup as you can hope to get. Backup goalkeepers usually become shyte from sitting on the bench, every one of them. You only hope to get one who doesn't make mistakes when called upon, and Bego doesn't.

I'm sure you remember Carlo Cudicini who was a top class keeper for Chelsea, top 3 in EPL, how he started making mistakes and looking shaky once Cech glued his aßß to the bench. Same goes for Michel Vorm who was a top keeper at Swansea but now makes a mistake a game on the odd occasion he plays for Spurs.

Goalkeepers lose 50% of their skill once they become a number 2. That is because the art of goalkeeping requires you to constantly practice in situational scenarios every single week, whether that is coming to catch a ball in a crowded area, or tussling with opposition strikers. These situations cannot be replicated in training. Hence once you have a backup goalkeeper that makes no mistakes like Bego, you should be grateful. Between lack of weekly practice and confidence of not building your rhythm, there is no goalie in the world you will glue to bench that will not be shaky until he gets a run of games. So forget all those Tom Heaton you keep talking about. they cannot handle being backup better than Bego.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 007author(m): 2:03pm On May 16, 2017
Not a fan of begovic sha


He concede goals a lot


Just look at what Romero is doing in manyoo when called upon
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 2:53pm On May 16, 2017
007author:
Not a fan of begovic sha


He concede goals a lot


Just look at what Romero is doing in manyoo when called upon

In Europa... Against who?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 007author(m): 3:07pm On May 16, 2017
bigkesh:

In Europa... Against who?

It doesn't matter the league

Romero has been phenomenal when called upon
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:08pm On May 16, 2017
timbros:
John Terry joins Frank Lampard, Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes to score in 17 consecutive seasons. Impressive.

Meanwhile Boateng's overall career goals (both club and country, in all competition) is, well, 9. grin

Because its a defenders job to score goals

Nesta entire career 13 goals

Baresi entire career 19 goals

Naldo 58 career goals till date

Jaglieka career till date 37 goals

Gary Cahill career till date 44 goals

Tell me which are the better defenders of those listed above

This is the type of yarn I will be expecting from Chelseafan1 and other twerps

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:12pm On May 16, 2017
Pep just admitted what we all know, If he had a trophyless season in Bayern or Barca he would be sacked but in EPL the standard is low thats why Wenger has a job for 21yrs 13 of those without winning the league. Thats why David Moyes was able to spend almost a decade in Everton winning nothing
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 3:33pm On May 16, 2017
Ibime:


Let me tell you, Begovic is as good a backup as you can hope to get. Backup goalkeepers usually become shyte from sitting on the bench, every one of them. You only hope to get one who doesn't make mistakes when called upon, and Bego doesn't.

I'm sure you remember Carlo Cudicini who was a top class keeper for Chelsea, top 3 in EPL, how he started making mistakes and looking shaky once Cech glued his aßß to the bench. Same goes for Michel Vorm who was a top keeper at Swansea but now makes a mistake a game on the odd occasion he plays for Spurs.

Goalkeepers lose 50% of their skill once they become a number 2. That is because the art of goalkeeping requires you to constantly practice in situational scenarios every single week, whether that is coming to catch a ball in a crowded area, or tussling with opposition strikers. These situations cannot be replicated in training. Hence once you have a backup goalkeeper that makes no mistakes like Bego, you should be grateful. Between lack of weekly practice and confidence of not building your rhythm, there is no goalie in the world you will glue to bench that will not be shaky until he gets a run of games. So forget all those Tom Heaton you keep talking about. they cannot handle being backup better than Bego.
begovic is a trash. Since he moved into Chelsea. Even last season he had good games, he couldn't do well more than those goalkeeper's their team was relagated..

Thank God he is leaving because as far as he keeps making the post , 2 goals is sure regardless of a solid defence or not..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 3:35pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Because its a defenders job to score goals

Nesta entire career 13 goals

Baresi entire career 19 goals

Naldo 58 career goals till date

Jaglieka career till date 37 goals

Gary Cahill career till date 44 goals

Tell me which are the better defenders of those listed above

This is the type of yarn I will be expecting from Chelseafan1 and other twerps

why you know add Ramos??

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:37pm On May 16, 2017
lordfalcao:
why you know add Ramos??

Is it a defenders job to score?
Soon we will say Rogerio Ceni and Chilavert were better keepers than Neuer Kahn and Buffon because they scored goals
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 3:42pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Is it a defenders job to score?
Soon we will say Rogerio Ceni and Chilavert were better keepers than Neuer Kahn and Buffon because they scored goals
its not defenders job to score, but any elite defender in this world there goals should have given their team at least 30 pointsss grin grin



That is their whole career goalssssss
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:44pm On May 16, 2017
lordfalcao:
its not defenders job to score, but any elite defender in this world there goals should have given their team at least 30 pointsss grin grin
That is their whole career goalssssss

Nesta and Baresi are they elite defenders? they scored less than 20 goals in their entire careers

Naldo Cahill and Jaglieka are they elite defenders they scored over 30 goals each
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:44pm On May 16, 2017


Thank God for the small clubs in the small league of EPL where you dont have to win a trophy to keep a job
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 3:55pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Nesta and Baresi are they elite defenders? they scored less than 20 goals in their entire careers

Naldo Cahill and Jaglieka are they elite defenders they scored over 30 goals each
Ramos, and terry had 20 + each
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 3:59pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Because its a defenders job to score goals

Nesta entire career 13 goals

Baresi entire career 19 goals

Naldo 58 career goals till date

Jaglieka career till date 37 goals

Gary Cahill career till date 44 goals

Tell me which are the better defenders of those listed above

This is the type of yarn I will be expecting from Chelseafan1 and other twerps


Sergio Ramos 59 goals

Paolo Maldini 36 goals.

Gerard Pique 26 goals.

Nemanja Vidic 40 goals.

Elite defenders naturally have better goal returns.

If it's not their job to score goals, they shouldn't go for free kicks and corners na. Let them just line up in front of their 18 yard box because their only job is to stop goals.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:03pm On May 16, 2017
lordfalcao:
Ramos, and terry had 20 + each

Jaglieka had 20+, naldo had 20+ Cahill has 20+ goals are they elite defenders?

Baresi has below 20, Nesta has below 20 so what does that tell us about them
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:03pm On May 16, 2017
timbros:


Sergio Ramos 59 goals

Paolo Maldini 36 goals.

Gerard Pique 26 goals.

Nemanja Vidic 40 goals.

Elite defenders naturally have better goal returns.

If it's not their job to score goals, they shouldn't go for free kicks and corners na. Let them just line up in front of their 18 yard box because their only job is to stop goals.

Baresi and Nesta are they elite defenders?

Ricardo Carvalho total career 17 goals. I guess he isnt elite because he didnt score goals

Naldo 59 goals Nesta 13 goals verdict from timbros, Naldo is an elite defender, Nesta isnt an elite defender

Jaglieka 37 goals Baresi 19 goals verdict Jaglieka is an elite defender Baresi isnt an elite defender
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 4:06pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Jaglieka had 20+, naldo had 20+ Cahill has 20+ goals are they elite defenders?

Baresi has below 20, Nesta has below 20 so what does that tell us about them
that.
Italian defenders are poor goal scorers

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:06pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:
Pep just admitted what we all know, If he had a trophyless season in Bayern or Barca he would be sacked but in EPL the standard is low thats why Wenger has a job for 21yrs 13 of those without winning the league. Thats why David Moyes was able to spend almost a decade in Everton winning nothing


It is much much more easy to win trophies in Bayern and Barca so if in your first season you can't win a trophy, you're out.

But in EPL, it's much harder to win a trophy that's why Pep have the "second chance" he mentioned in that interview.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:07pm On May 16, 2017
SIRcumalot:

that.
Italian defenders are poor goal scorers

Ricardo Carvalho 17 goals, He is probablyItalian from his neighbors side
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:08pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Baresi and Nesta are they elite defenders?

Ricardo Carvalho total career 17 goals. I guess he isnt elite because he didnt score goals

Naldo 59 goals Nesta 13 goals verdict from timbros, Naldo is an elite defender, Nesta isnt an elite defender

Jaglieka 37 goals Baresi 19 goals verdict Jaglieka is an elite defender Baresi isnt an elite defender

Verdict from raumdeuter, Vidic, Ramos are not elite defenders because they score as much goals as Naldo and Jagielka...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:08pm On May 16, 2017
timbros:
It is much much more easy to win trophies in Bayern and Barca so if in your first season you can't win a trophy, you're out.

But in EPL, it's much harder to win a trophy that's why Pep have the "second chance" he mentioned in that interview.

No German or SPanish coach have stayed as long as Arsene wenger whther coaching Bayern Barca or Alavez and Darmstadt
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:11pm On May 16, 2017
timbros:


Verdict from ramdeuter, Vidic, Ramos are not elite defenders because they score as much goals as Naldo and Jagielka...

Ramdeuter: Goals scored isnt a criteria to determine an elite defender, so Nesta, Carvalho and Boateng are elite defenders despite not scoring much goals while Naldo Jaglieka and Terry are useless defenders despite scoring lots of goals

Timbros: Goals scored is a criteria to determine an elite defender therefore Naldo, terry and Jaglieka are elite defenders because they score but Nesta and Carvalho are not elite because they dont score many goals
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:11pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


No German or SPanish coach have stayed as long as Arsene wenger whther coaching Bayern Barca or Alavez and Darmstadt

And Pep said it himself that has only a "second chance". If he blow up that second chance, he knows the probability of shown the door is like 90%.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 4:12pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Ricardo Carvalho 17 goals, He is probablyItalian from his neighbors side
that rumor don dey go around for awhile now.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:13pm On May 16, 2017
timbros:


And Pep said it himself that has only a "second chance". If he blow up that second chance, he knows the probability of shown the door is like 90%.

EPL is the league where coaches get too much leeway even when they dont win

Wenger 14yrs without the league, Moyes a decade without winning anything. If Pep doesnt win or only win the Carling cup next year he still wont get fired

Thats how lax EPL is
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:15pm On May 16, 2017
SIRcumalot:

that rumor don dey go around for awhile now.

Jaap Stam 21 career goals, His dog is Italian thats why he didnt score much goals
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:17pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


Ramdeuter: Goals scored isnt a criteria to determine an elite defender, so Nesta, Carvalho and Boateng are elite defenders despite not scoring much goals while Naldo Jaglieka and Terry are useless defenders despite scoring lots of goals

Timbros: Goals scored is a criteria to determine an elite defender therefore Naldo, terry and Jaglieka are elite defenders because they score but Nesta and Carvalho are not elite because they dont score many goals

lol...na you sabi.

My first post regarding Terry is about his consistency. Scoring in 17 consecutive seasons, not his number of career goals.

Now I referred to Boateng number of goals because even if he was to score one goal each season, he is still far behind Terry in consistency.

If I start comparing their number of goals, that would be wickedness on Boateng.

You are the one that start comparing number of career goals.

Even sef none of these defenders mentioned is on just 9 freaking career goals. Lol.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 4:19pm On May 16, 2017
raumdeuter:


EPL is the league where coaches get too much leeway even when they dont win

Wenger 14yrs without the league, Moyes a decade without winning anything. If Pep doesnt win or only win the Carling cup next year he still wont get fired

Thats how lax EPL is

Why don't you quote Pep in full and not just that phrase you posted up there in the image?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:20pm On May 16, 2017
timbros:


lol...na you sabi.

My first post regarding Terry is about his consistency. Scoring in 17 consecutive seasons, not his number of career goals.

Now I referred to Boateng number of goals because even if he was to score one goal each season, he is still far behind Terry in consistency.

If I start comparing their number of goals, that would be wickedness on Boateng.

You are the one that start comparing number of career goals.

Even sef none of these defenders mentioned is on just 9 freaking career goals. Lol.

Nesta retired at 13 goals, Boateng still has at least 5yrs more to play. Only novices will be ranking defenders by goals scored, why not let us rank keepers too by goals scored

I saw one Manure fan do it and nihilist was laughing at the poster not knowing such people are within his own chelsea fold

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