Sportsweb:
You Barca fans have successfully turned it to same old Barca vs Madrid troll at last.

When I saw people giving excuses why Vini was abused, I knew it would come to it.

When Vini said Spain is a racist, he meant everybody (Madrid, Catalonia) everywhere

Devvy4:



That Jp guy is like a sex staved girl who was raped by some guys and in the process, she orgasm, now she's trying to justify rape because she wasn't negatively affected by it.

Devvy4:
Vini's red has been cancelled

Devvy4:
Vini's red has been cancelled

jpmoriarti:
Lmaooo I cannot justify Racism please.

The day white people ran off the elevator I entered while others refused to enter, was one of the most difficult day of my life abroad.

I think I have made my piont already. I just believe Vinicius can find some balance. It would be entirely difficult to control what thousands of fans do in a stadium. There's no given that one or two will still not stray to such extent of racially abusing him. This is a societal problem.

jpmoriarti:
Lmaooo I cannot justify Racism please.

The day white people ran off the elevator I entered while others refused to enter, was one of the most difficult day of my life abroad.

I think I have made my piont already. I just believe Vinicius can find some balance. It would be entirely difficult to control what thousands of fans do in a stadium. There's no given that one or two will still not stray to such extent of racially abusing him. This is a societal problem.

andrew444:


Doing nothing but Telling you how araujo was called a shit monkey at the bernabeu for some seconds and it was swept under the carpet

Who swept it under the carpet? Is it not the same La Liga we are calling out? What's your problem man

jpmoriarti:
But Vinicius showed aggression to an opponent. Being the subject of a racist chants does not justify his aggression. That's ridiculous.

If it were Lewandowski for touching his nose after 2nd yellow, he was met with 3 match ban.

Real Madrid power in Spain is just too much. There's a reason they're 'the team of the regime'.

liveLongNprospa:

I don't think this was racism.

I think you had just finished spilling shit from your mouth and so that smell chased everyone away like it's chasing people away from you when you talk here.

pu7pl3:


Who swept it under the carpet? Is it not the same La Liga we are calling out? What's your problem man

jpmoriarti:
A few other people I know have experienced such also. Some white people cannot stay in same place with a black person.

liveLongNprospa:


You are dealing with an idiotic troll who enjoys using the anonymity of the Internet to say nonsense.

If you bring this one in real life to hold these opinions, e go rather die than talk this thing😂

I thought the guy was rational sha

pu7pl3:


I thought the guy was rational sha

liveLongNprospa:


Are you normal.
Someone had his hand around vini's neck and baba was trying to remove it in self defence and you think this is it? Real Madrid Power?

You have not seen the Brazilian government going hard on this issue? Or the Spanish government?

What Madrid power was there the other times vini experienced this issue?
How come it's now that the boy refused to take it and decided enough is enough..

Just accept that you are jealous that a human being was braver than you could ever be in your life and decided to do something about it.

I honestly hope that you have no 1 looking up to you and if you do, I honestly pray to God that you are removed from their lives as a person of influence because my God you are damaged product of creation.

God forbid

jpmoriarti:
The competition committee was cowed into submission. I think media pressure got the better of them.

They could have retrospectively imposed match ban on the player that allegedly held Vinicius neck, which prompted his show of aggression. That's how it's done everywhere.

So if Vinicius produced a gun and shot someone, he'd be allowed to go free just because he was a target for racial abuse?

Racism has no place in football, in as much as aggression.

2paid2Bmad:



Maybe you were smelly that’s why they didn’t join the elevator.

Why on earth are you trying to find justification for racism, that’s blatant stupidity. You’re fvcking disgusting, and you said you’ve traveled? Man! Fvck you!

liveLongNprospa:


That you are jumping over hoops to produce imaginary extreme situations to justify your stance further proves my point.

Again please say amen to my prayer

jpmoriarti:
If he could be allowed to get away with swinging an arm on an opponent because he was emotionally troubled, you can imagine what next he could be allowed to get away with.

liveLongNprospa:


Watch the full video oga.

What led to this act.
You had your hands around someone's neck in a crowded situation.. Inside a stadium chanting racist words and mannerisms.

Fear God nau

jpmoriarti:
So it would have been allowed if he brandished a gun and shot someone?


I agree context is crucial here but it isn't enough excuse either.

It is obvious the competition committee was under immense pressure. The Real Madrid PR pressure is immense and relentless.

When Araujo was racially abused at the Bernabeu earlier in the season, it was swiftly swept under the carpet.

liveLongNprospa:


But nobody has pointed out to one club..
Vini has called out the whole of la liga and the quietness that has plagued the league after countless racist actions.

Nobody here has said any team is a Saint.

This man how is your thought process like?

Someone would expect that people channel all their energy to using this opportunity to shine light on this issue but here I am having to lecture a Barcelona fan about racism.. And what do you do.. Point out the racism your own player experienced in my team as a way of saying what?

I will say amen on your behalf

jpmoriarti:
I have an issue with Vinicius red card being rescinded. I think two wrongs does not make a right.

The league can still punish Valencia and the racists identified without rescinding the red card.

I believe the partial stadium closure, as well as imposition of hefty fines, was right step in the right direction.

Also, the identified culprits should not only be banned from all the stadiums in Spain but also thrown in jail, to serve as a deterrent to others.

However, a show of aggression by Vinicius, even if he was pushed to the wall, must be punished. Otherwise, this is how impunity begins.

liveLongNprospa:


You are literally abandoning the context of this whole thing.
How do you forgo context in passing judgement?

It's like killing someone and someone wants to kill you.. It turns out there is context to show you acted in self defense.

What is the preceding issue that led to vini defending himself?
Vini was not the aggressor neither was that still frame picture telling the whole story.

Watch the freaking video oga

jpmoriarti:
The competition committee was cowed into submission. I think media pressure got the better of them.

They could have retrospectively imposed match ban on the player that allegedly held Vinicius neck, which prompted his show of aggression. That's how it's done everywhere.

So if Vinicius produced a gun and shot someone, he'd be allowed to go free just because he was a target for racial abuse?

Racism has no place in football, in as much as aggression.

jpmoriarti:
It is the job of referee to punish offenders in a football match.

If someone receives a bad tackle, worthy of red card and the victim punches the aggressor, two of them will be red carded. It is the job of the referee to determine these things.

No player can take laws into their own hands in the guise of self defence.

By your own admission, Vinicius took laws into his own hands. The red card is valid.

jpmoriarti:
It is the job of referee to punish offenders in a football match.

If someone receives a bad tackle, worthy of red card and the victim punches the aggressor, two of them will be red carded. It is the job of the referee to determine these things.

No player can take laws into their own hands in the guise of self defence.

By your own admission, Vinicius took laws into his own hands. The red card is valid.

liveLongNprospa:


By my own admission the ref didn't do his job.. He still further did rubbish by giving vinicius a red card for an offence he (ref) allowed to escalate to the point vini had to defend himself.

So your question is what then is the use of VAR?

jpmoriarti:
If he could be allowed to get away with swinging an arm on an opponent because he was emotionally troubled, you can imagine what next he could be allowed to get away with.

a4turitoroman:

What's this 😂😕,
You claim you live outside the country,
Imagine yourself in vini's shoe, so you'll stay like that and allow someone to choke you?

a4turitoroman:

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