Musiwa,,:
the law does not allow him to move it to port harcourt.

Why? could you please tell me.

Calebsky: @

Ok. now i get your drift. you must be a tribalist. Calabar (South South) had it, Lagos (South West) had it, Abuja (North Central) is having it with the attendant man-made problems or disaster,whatever. Now i think it will only be fair to push it down east and Enugu (South East) will be perfect. No bias huh! Mind you i'm not an igbo man.

If SS, SW and NC has had presidency then why not to NW Sokoto or NE Adamawa since you claim you are not biased

naptu2: 1) Have you read section 298 of the constitution?

2) I wonder why you want to run away from a problem rather than solve the problem.

3) Don't you think your suggestion will lead to waste of money and corruption?

1. not really...but i'll do so tonight.
2. am not running away...am just trying to solve it systematically, politically, tactically, ati bebe lo

naptu2: 1) Have you read section 298 of the constitution?

2) I wonder why you want to run away from a problem rather than solve the problem.

3) Don't you think your suggestion will lead to waste of money and corruption?

1. not really...but i'll do so tonight.
2. am not running away...am just trying to solve it systematically, politically, tactically, ati bebe lo
3. it's the opposite my dear. will lead to more resourcefulness and accountability.

@ ALL,

I believe the capital can be temporarily relocated to any part of Nigeria to preserve the security and sanctity of government pending when the Islamic terrorists challenge can be effectively dealt with. During the Biafra war, the capital was relocated to Umuahia. Following Orkar's coup, IBB quickly relocated the capital to Abuja to escape from the security challenges in Lagos.

With escalation in attacks by the terrorists the President should relocate the capital to avert a national disaster. He can even choose Ibadan, Abeokuta or Awka. The major consideration should be the security of the symbol of government. When things are back to normal, we move back to Abuja.

With temporary relocation you need a place with functional govt-type of structures.

OP Since you are not biased, Can we move the FCT to Maiduguri or Sokoto in the NE and NC respectively?

dayokanu: OP Since you are not biased, Can we move the FCT to Maiduguri or Sokoto in the NE and NC respectively?

dayokanu:

If SS, SW and NC has had presidency then why not to NW Sokoto or NE Adamawa since you claim you are not biased

For political and economic best reasons the NW or NE do not qualify for now, not to mention the security risks. perhaps it could be in some distant future

Federal Capital Territory, Abuja

297. (1) There shall be a Federal Capital Territory, Abuja the boundaries of which are as defined in Part II of the First Schedule to this Constitution.

(2) The ownership of all lands comprised in the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja shall vest in the Government of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

298. The Federal Capital Territory, Abuja shall be the Capital of the Federation and seat of the Government of the Federation.

http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm


1) You will need the support of 2/3rds of the members of the Senate and 2/3rds of the members of House, 2/3rds of all the state houses of assembly and the President to amend the sections of the constitution above

2) I wish you knew the level of corruption that took place between 1975-1991 when the capital was moved from Lagos to Abuja.

3) You are going to need to build new office blocks, new residences, etc for the thousands of civil servants, members of the armed forces, judges,national assembly members, etc that will move. Of course, the contracts to construct these structures will be inflated. Won't it be better to invest these funds into hospitals, schools, better equipment and training for the security forces, etc?

4) When the target moves, the hunter will also move.

5) The best way to spread development round the country is true federalism, fiscal federalism, resource control and the derivation principle. You will notice that whatever "development" a city gains from being the federal capital, will be lost once the capital is moved to another city. It's crazy to keep building these "civil service cities" up and down the country.

Calebsky:



For political and economic best reasons the NW or NE do not qualify for now, not to mention the security risks. perhaps it could be in some distant future

Which political reasons and which economic reason needs to be considered when situating a Federal capital?

You mentioned security yet advocated Port harcourt and SE where cases of kidnapping and militancy are highest in the country

So much for being a detribalised and unbiased person

naptu2: Federal Capital Territory, Abuja

297. (1) There shall be a Federal Capital Territory, Abuja the boundaries of which are as defined in Part II of the First Schedule to this Constitution.

(2) The ownership of all lands comprised in the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja shall vest in the Government of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

298. The Federal Capital Territory, Abuja shall be the Capital of the Federation and seat of the Government of the Federation.

http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm


1) You will need the support of 2/3rds of the members of the Senate and 2/3rds of the members of House, 2/3rds of all the state houses of assembly and the President to amend the sections of the constitution above

2) I wish you knew the level of corruption that took place between 1975-1991 when the capital was moved from Lagos to Abuja.

3) You are going to need to build new office blocks, new residences, etc for the thousands of civil servants, members of the armed forces, judges,national assembly members, etc that will move. Of course, the contracts to construct these structures will be inflated. Won't it be better to invest these funds into hospitals, schools, better equipment and training for the security forces, etc?

4) When the target moves, the hunter will also move.

5) The best way to spread development round the country is true federalism, fiscal federalism, resource control and the derivation principle. You will notice that whatever "development" a city gains from being the federal capital, will be lost once the capital is moved to another city. It's crazy to keep building these "civil service cities" up and down the country.

Wow! am so impressed with your sense of judgment and analysis. thank you. you've answered the questions that bothered me.
no. 2 i was just rounding up secondary school then (1991) and never knew. really wished i knew. but now i know in a statement
no. 5 is simply the best solution for this country.

take a high 5 bro.

BTW the thought of the FCT leaving the north would have quietened the sponsors and activities of bokoharam. what do you think naptu2?

Wrong diagnosis is quite dangerous. Indeed it can kill. Malaria and typhoid have similar symptoms. If you administer malaria treatment on someone who has typhoid, you might unknowingly be leading him to his death.

That's the case with Boko Haram. There are many causes of the Boko Haram menace, many objectives and many factions of Boko Haram. If you treat one aspect (especially if it's the least threatening) and ignore others (especially if you ignore the greatest threat), then you haven't done anything and you'll still be heading for death.


Some diagnosis

1) It's because we have a southern president.

2) It's being sponsored by election losers.

3) It's an extension of Al-Qaeda

4) It's caused by poverty and illiteracy.

5) It's caused by the West (this is especially believed by conspiracy theorists and those that are against the west because of colonialism, Patrice Lumumba, etc).


Some supposed aims.

1) To ensure we have a northern president

2) To ensure that those who lost elections are installed in government.

3) To impose their own brand of islam on the north.

4) To impose their own brand of islam on Nigeria and beyond.

5) The west wants oil/to stop the emergence of a powerful african country.

6)To ensure the north gets more money.

I believe that all these diagnoses might be correct (apart from the "west" angle obviously), but the most dangerous angle is the Al-Qaeda angle.

Now, with the Al-Qaeda angle, I believe if you give them an inch (move the capital), they'll take a mile (the whole country).

why temporary? should be permanent.

Please i want to Know.
1-Where were the Yorubas when Hausa/Fulani moved Nigeria Capital to North, and why did they allow that to happen

Many Lagosians (both indigenes and residents) were very happy when the government moved to Abuja in 1991. Personally, I hope it never comes back.

Today you can go to the club @ night in Lagos, without the fear of being caught up in a military battle (I will never forget April 22nd 1990 for as long as I live).

In 1991, IBB attended an event @ NIIA on Victoria Island (it was at that event that MKO Abiola was locked out & had to be saved by Aikhomu), the traffic in Lagos on that day was HELL!

Getting to school late cos IBB or Buhari or whomever was attending an event.

Pls, they say Abuja is center of unity. Let it remain the capital.

naptu2: Wrong diagnosis is quite dangerous. Indeed it can kill. Malaria and typhoid have similar symptoms. If you administer malaria treatment on someone who has typhoid, you might unknowingly be leading him to his death.

That's the case with Boko Haram. There are many causes of the Boko Haram menace, many objectives and many factions of Boko Haram. If you treat one aspect (especially if it's the least threatening) and ignore others (especially if you ignore the greatest threat), then you haven't done anything and you'll still be heading for death.


Some diagnosis

1) It's because we have a southern president.

2) It's being sponsored by election losers.

3) It's an extension of Al-Qaeda

4) It's caused by poverty and illiteracy.

5) It's caused by the West (this is especially believed by conspiracy theorists and those that are against the west because of colonialism, Patrice Lumumba, etc).


Some supposed aims.

1) To ensure we have a northern president

2) To ensure that those who lost elections are installed in government.

3) To impose their own brand of islam on the north.

4) To impose their own brand of islam on Nigeria and beyond.

5) The west wants oil/to stop the emergence of a powerful african country.

6)To ensure the north gets more money.

I believe that all these diagnoses might be correct (apart from the "west" angle obviously), but the most dangerous angle is the Al-Qaeda angle.

Now, with the Al-Qaeda angle, I believe if you give them an inch (move the capital), they'll take a mile (the whole country).

You have some good points there bro.

This morning i read that FORMER Minister of Federal Capital Territory, Mallam Nasir El-Rufai has warned the Nigerian Government to review its stance on the security situation in the country, but if it fails, “they will not be in government for too long”. Moreso, The man at the centre of the aborted negotiations with Boko Haram yesterday said the process was sabotaged by President Jonathan’s principal private secretary Hassan Tukur.

These and many more make the bokoharam issues fall under your diagnosis .

What do you think could be the panacea for this problem?

so you mean moving the capital will make bokoharam/Al Qaeda take the whole country.
i personally do not think so. on the contrary, i think it will bring some calm.....and the govt can better re-strategise

The Capital does not necessarily need to be moved to another city. However, the President can decide to put in place facilities/resources (fixed or otherwise) that will enable him to do his job from any city/state in Nigeria, for as long as he deems fit!

COWARDS!!!

Smooth278: COWARDS!!!

That word summaries it. Why should they move the capital? So you actually mean the government are scared outta their pays by Boko Haram that they have decided to flee and run? Why not just deal with the source of the problem instead of packing their bags all over the darned country?

Willy4Willy:
Please i want to Know.
1-Where were the Yorubas when Hausa/Fulani moved Nigeria Capital to North, and why did they allow that to happen

You can never understand. You are like a duffer playing a Grandmaster in a game of chess. Speak of complete bafflement.