Abortion is the highest kind of murder because of the number of lives it has claimed. No other kind of murder, like genocide,terror attacks, holocaust can be compared with abortion.

Let's use USA as an example because we lack statistics in Nigeria, Since the legalization of abortion in 1973 in USA there have been approximately 50 million abortions performed in the United States. that's an average of 1.4 million babies per year from 1973-2008 compare that to 3,497 people who died as a result of 2001 sept 11 attacks. Worldwide statistics is around 41-42 million a year

But where do these aborted babies go? Do they have a soul at all?

Babies who are aborted go to heaven. I always believed that aborted babies go to heaven. Recently accounts of people who have gone through near death experience have made it more clear.

For example a story by a four year old boy who almost died from a ruptured appendix said what he saw in heaven

But the real shocker came when the boy told his mother, “Mommy, I have two sisters.” The mom told her son that he had to be referring to his oldest sister, Cassie, and his cousin Traci, but he responded: “No — I have two sisters. You had a baby die in your tummy, didn’t you?”

Her mom had a miscarriage which she never told any of her kids. Her son saw the aborted baby in heaven.

But how does this aborted baby look like? Everyone in heaven looks like they are in their 20s, 30s whether they died when they were old or aborted in the womb.

More links to this child's story can be found at the links below

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362127/Schoolboy-says-went-heaven-met-dead-sister-knew-about.html


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42191453/ns/today-today_news/t/meet-boy-who-says-he-visited-heaven-saw-jesus/#.T50xf4GwXgU

do you eat egg? arent you killing a young life then? a life that has never seen the world..

PAGAN 9JA:
do you eat egg? arent you killing a young life then? a life that has never seen the world..

I am not a vegetarian. I kill chicken before I eat it. go and upgrade your logic!!
How is a chicken equal to a human being?

these kinds of question will anybody nowhere.
1. there is no conclusive proof ( other than from religious texts ) of afterlife. so you can never be sure where anybody is after death, if they exist at all
2. does it make any difference where children or anybody goes when they die, what is the use of that knowledge. a dead person is DEAD AND GONE FOREVER. and wherever they are does no benefit to the living.
3. we will just argue and insult one one another because we have tightly held on to our beliefs and opinions on these issues and in the end nothing will be learned but more confusion.

A shocking 700 babies die each day and 136 mothers die in, or as a result of, childbirth in Nigeria. Garba lost his twin babies during the delivery, and his wife one day after. He is pictured here with his three remaining children.

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthpicturegalleries/8009121/Infant-mortality-in-Nigeria-a-Save-the-Children-picture-story.html
If you are so concerned about lives of babies and children, why don't you expend your resources and time helping to reduce our appalling infant and maternal mortality statistics or helping abandoned babies and children live meaningful lives. Instead of being the moral police and judge of abortionists.

wirinet:
If you are so concerned about lives of babies and children, why don't you expend your resources and time helping to reduce our appalling infant and maternal mortality statistics or helping abandoned babies and children live meaningful lives. Instead of being the moral police and judge of abortionists.

Your comment is irrelevant!!! If you are so concerned about the lives of human being who are already living, why don't you spend your time and resources to reduce the number of people that boko haram is killling in our country. Or are you not concerned about the killings by boko haram?

When people try to justify abortion, they just end up displaying their ignorance.

jmoore:

Your comment is irrelevant!!! If you are so concerned about the lives of human being who are already living, why don't you spend your time and resources to reduce the number of people that boko haram is killling in our country. Or are you not concerned about the killings by boko haram?

When people try to justify abortion, they just end up displaying their ignorance.

you can get emotionally and religiously charged as much as you want, it will never make aborting a baby the same thing as murdering a baby. Even in fundamentalist Muslim or Christian countries, abortion is not equated to murder. And it never will.
You cannot force a others to adopt your religious code. The decision to have a baby or abort it is not yours do, but the parties involved, especially the woman that is to carry, give birth and care for the baby.

If it is against Gods laws, then let god deal with them. If you turn terrorist by burning abortion clinics or murder doctors that perform abortion, you will go to jail.

wirinet:

you can get emotionally and religiously charged as much as you want, it will never make aborting a baby the same thing as murdering a baby. Even in fundamentalist Muslim or Christian countries, abortion is not equated to murder. And it never will.
You cannot force a others to adopt your religious code. The decision to have a baby or abort it is not yours do, but the parties involved, especially the woman that is to carry, give birth and care for the baby.

If it is against Gods laws, then let god deal with them. If you turn terrorist by burning abortion clinics or murder doctors that perform abortion, you will go to jail.

SMH , words of a terrorist!!

Straight to their GOD who made the abortion possible!

Or maybe the poor fetuses should have been born then discarded in refuse bins like the HOLY CHRISTIANS practice. . . .

Just murder the INFANT instead of the fetus!

Exhibit A your H-HONOUR! Praise Your Lordy-Lordy!

Praise the 'Nwa Baby' vAghin Christian. Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!

Callotti: Straight to their GOD who made the abortion possible!

Or maybe the poor fetuses should have been born then discarded in refuse bins like the HOLY CHRISTIANS practice. . . .

Just murder the INFANT instead of the fetus!

Exhibit A your H-HONOUR! Praise Your Lordy-Lordy!

Praise the 'Nwa Baby' vAghin Christian. Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!

Please, no exhibition of insanity here.

jmoore:

Please, no exhibition of insanity here.

Insanity ke?
You asked a question. . . you got an answer.

Your aborted babies h-end up in the trash. . . .body, soul and spirit like the murdered LIVE BIRTHS. Exactly where they belong. . . BY THE GRACE OF YOUR GOD IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HIS DEPUTY A.K.A SECOND-IN-COMMAND(SATAN)!

My pleasure.
H-enjoy.

Next question please.

@ OP,

Why do you think aborted babies are in heaven?

italo: @ OP,

Why do you think aborted babies are in heaven?

where else should they go to, hell?

The Almighty says “I will have mercy upon whom I will have mercy”.

The point is that aborted babies are believed to be given a special dispensation of the grace of God; it is not by their innocence but by God’s grace that they are received into heaven.

This applies to infants and kids who have no knowledge between evil and good. For example, when David and Bathsheba lost their precious child, David realized that he could not expect to see him again in this life, but he clearly said the day will come when “I shall go to him...” (II Sam 12:23).

Aborted foetus go back to their maker. No soul dies twice. Right from conception an angel is appointed for every soul.
Their is after life. A soul will never die but the body returns to dust.
If u really want to know god direct ur quest to him in prayer he will reveal him self if u are sincere.

Aborted children go back to the presence of God Almighty who created them.
Another sad fact to note is that the agenda of God for those lives has also been aborted,no wonder,there are so many problems in the world today.
There is a possibility that the solutions to some of the world most desperate needs have all being aborted.
Imagine if Michael faraday was aborted.
God is going to require the blood of all aborted children from the hands of the mother,father,doctor,nurse,and everybody complicit in the murder,except they run to the lord for mercy before death catches up with them.

I guess the topic does not take into considerations the different kinds of abortions huh?

Elective abortions. . . commited by the MAN and woman who killed the fetus.
Spontaneous abortions. . . .aka miscarriages COMMITTED by GOD himself.

Mu he he he he he he

Where do the babies aborted by GOD during miscarriages go?

Ta-da!

Viewing this topic: buzugee(m)
this guy shoulda been aborted.

ea7: Viewing this topic: buzugee(m)
this guy shoulda been aborted.

luckily for me, i wasnt. and if a doctor tried to abort me, i will grab his scalpel and shove it up his a-ss

Callotti: I guess the topic does not take into considerations the different kinds of abortions huh?

Elective abortions. . . commited by the MAN and woman who killed the fetus.
Spontaneous abortions. . . .aka miscarriages COMMITTED by GOD himself.

Mu he he he he he he

Where do the babies aborted by GOD during miscarriages go?

Ta-da!

It is extremely foolish to compare miscarriage with abortion.
Miscarriage happens due to changes in conditions of the environment containing the foetus.
It happens when the mother alters this conditions such as pressure,temperature,concentration of certain biochemicals(most of the time unknowingly).
It also happen when there is an insufficiency of certain biochemicals in the body e.g folic acid.
It definitely has nothing to do with God!
Miscarriage is not deliberate,while abortion is MURDER IN COLD BLOOD.!

solomon111: It is extremely foolish to compare miscarriage with abortion.
Miscarriage happens due to changes in conditions of the environment containing the foetus.
It happens when the mother alters this conditions such as pressure,temperature,concentration of certain biochemicals(most of the time unknowingly).
It also happen when there is an insufficiency of certain biochemicals in the body e.g folic acid.
It definitely has nothing to do with God!
Miscarriage is not deliberate,while abortion is MURDER IN COLD BLOOD.!

My opinion still stands. Miscarriages are ABORTIONS from God!
Now, you wanno claim 'science' when it is convenient for you huh? Typical 'Christian'!
If you believe in IMMACULATE CONCEPTION. . .you should also believe in IMMACULATE ABORTIONS TOO!
Now, who is the foolish 'thinker'?
Keep diggin'! You will not only fall inside your own pitless arguments. . .you would also strangulate yourself as you fall way deep in!

@calloti
There is no way you can isolate science from christianity.
You should read up on how christianity helped the advancement of science.
I wonder the religion Isaac Newton,Michael Faraday,james watt e.t.c. belong to?
Any way the ball is in your court,believe what you want.

They both have souls, that's how.

jmoore:

I am not a vegetarian. I kill chicken before I eat it. go and upgrade your logic!!
How is a chicken equal to a human being?

Really? If that is correct, then how come Christianity loathes science so much?

solomon111: @calloti
There is no way you can isolate science from christianity.
You should read up on how christianity helped the advancement of science.
I wonder the religion Isaac Newton,Michael Faraday,james watt e.t.c. belong to?
Any way the ball is in your court,believe what you want.

@Solomon111
Fair enough.

jmoore:

SMH , words of a terrorist!!

You can't blame a mother for aborting for reasons ranging from high risk deliveries to bad health, or inadequate resources to care for both the baby and herself

jmoore:

where else should they go to, hell?

The Almighty says “I will have mercy upon whom I will have mercy”.

The point is that aborted babies are believed to be given a special dispensation of the grace of God; it is not by their innocence but by God’s grace that they are received into heaven.

This applies to infants and kids who have no knowledge between evil and good. For example, when David and Bathsheba lost their precious child, David realized that he could not expect to see him again in this life, but he clearly said the day will come when “I shall go to him...” (II Sam 12:23).

And what happened to the concept of Original Sin??

solomon111: @calloti
There is no way you can isolate science from christianity.
You should read up on how christianity helped the advancement of science.
I wonder the religion Isaac Newton,Michael Faraday,james watt e.t.c. belong to?
Any way the ball is in your court,believe what you want.

Science and its "truths" are seperate and different from Christianity and its own "truths". Two different systems. Scientific reports must have result from the scientific method, only then is it stamped as scientific.

Religious adherents who use the scientific method can't credit their religions as a direct contribution to therir work.

Kay 17:
You can't blame a mother for aborting for reasons ranging from high risk deliveries to bad health, or inadequate resources to care for both the baby and herself

First of all, you have to admit whether abortion is murder or not.

1-high risk deliveries to bad health: This is still not a valid point as the percentage of these kind is very small and sometimes something can be done to save both baby and the mother.

2-Inadequate resources to take care of the baby: Look around you, there are many people who can't afford to take care of themselves. You should also advise them to commit suicide since they cannot meet the daily needs.

Kay 17:

And what happened to the concept of Original Sin??

the example I gave about David should have cleared up this question.

Do you prefer an unborn baby who was murdered to go to hell or heaven?

It also must be noted that the Old Testament saints were saved although they did not have a complete knowledge of the salvation act (see 1 Peter 1:10-11). So it is possible to be saved by God through Christ even if you don't understand all the facts of the Gospel

Part of God's nature is mercy and He bestows His mercy and His grace on whom He will.

jmoore:

First of all, you have to admit whether abortion is murder or not.

1-high risk deliveries to bad health: This is still not a valid point as the percentage of these kind is very small and sometimes something can be done to save both baby and the mother.

Remember the high mortality rate in Nigeria. A woman might decide not to go through the risk of delivery and no child at all.

jmoore: 2-Inadequate resources to take care of the baby: Look around you, there are many people who can't afford to take care of themselves. You should also advise them to commit suicide since they cannot meet the daily needs.

women often have at stake their future, education or career. Some are impoverished to an extent that they are barely able to fend for themselves. Besides, they are not in a socialist country, its a darminist world, where they are to fend for themselves. In order words, abortion should be demandable by women because its a necessary reproductive right.

jmoore: the example I gave about David should have cleared up this question.

Do you prefer an unborn baby who was murdered to go to hell or heaven?

only persons can be murdered, even by Nigerian laws, a foetus is not a person.

Kay 17:
Remember the high mortality rate in Nigeria. A woman might decide not to go through the risk of delivery and no child at all.

women often have at stake their future, education or career. Some are impoverished to an extent that they are barely able to fend for themselves. Besides, they are not in a socialist country, its a darminist world, where they are to fend for themselves. In order words, abortion should be demandable by women because its a necessary reproductive right.

only persons can be murdered, even by Nigerian laws, a foetus is not a person.

your post makes no sense at all.
"a foetus is not a person" is a statement always echoed by those who have no knowledge about human beings

To you why is a foetus a person??