Proud.SAfrican:


As true as that may be we are still giving all the wrong answers to a great question.

all4naija: Possibly you haven't searched through the thread to see where people comment about factors like corrupt leadership, poor infrastructure like lack of constant electricity supply, low standard of education, no rule of laws, teeming population in the squalor condition,etc. It is not a rocket science to know that these are among the things which why Nigeria is less developed and less stable than South Africa.

Rossikk:

Semi-literate.

They are asking you the REASONS for the stuff you mentioned.

souldust: @emiye, the budget you posted is only that of the FG. You did not include that of the state and local government. I think all of that should be taken into consideration to have a better pic

all4naija: Look at this big head still going about his or her foolishness. No! That is not what he said. He is talking about the title as a question not be given a proper answer.

You lack comprehension.

Rossikk:

What?




Do you blame me?

Yogi Amen: Hullo people, I am a South Afrikan, just thought I'd join a forum dominated by Afrikans. Uhm, on the issue at hand, I really think South Afrika has benefited a lot from white man's rule but I also think that Blacks play a huge role in the success of the country's economy, politics and other areas. My issue however is that our country is somewhat isolated and the money we generate is spent on products from the West whereas I have heard about Nigerian's brilliance in things like technology...I really hope to see Afrika trade mainly with itself. thank you

_babyshaQ:

A typical nigerian would replace the bolded with Nigeria. We never accept our shortcomings, always looking for who to blame --our leaders mostly get all the blame; whereas forgetting that the leaders were once ordinary nigerians before they got into the spotlight --but ourselves, and criticizing Nigeria like foreigners.
***and its's Africa NOT Afrika

all4naija: The truth is that Nigerian corrupt leaders are the major factor contributing to the state the country is today. If you don't point that out it means you are not stating fact and how to begin finding solution would be very elusive in nature.

ROSSIKE:

Nigeria is a developing nation, like 4/5ths of the countries on earth. Her problems are not unique. Go to school and learn about the evolution of nation-states. They ALL experience teething problems. Singling out just ONE problem like 'corruption' is ILLITERATE.

ROSSIKE: ^^^Can anyone make sense of what this cretin is saying? Did you even pass out of secondary school?

all4naija:

I didn't pass out..

ROSSIKE:

I thought as much. Thanks!

It is a shame you don't know what pass out means. JEEZ!

cjrane: Because, SA is a real and just country, but Nigeria is a hopeless excuse for a country.

ROSSIKE:

Do people like you actually read and follow current affairs? And no. I don't mean moping at your CNN screen like a sheep. I mean proper educational material that will actually tell you what's going on, like say the FT? Or African Business Magazine? I mean, here you are typing all sorts of ignorant, inaccurate, illiterate rubbish, while African nations lead the world in economic growth, with major respected organizations attributing this to ''better governance in African nations''.

http://mg.co.za/article/2013-03-01-00-its-africas-time-now

The continent is seeing foreign investment at an all-time high, as nations become more stable, infrastructure improves, and enabling environments are created for business. All these are happening from Nigeria to Kenya, and from Tanzania to Uganda and South Africa, a country you stupidly stereotyped, whilst that nation has achieved massive economic strides in the post-apartheid period, and transformed the lives of millions of blacks. But all YOU see is the crime rate! THAT means they ''failed''. Has America ''failed'' despite its ten times higher crime rate?

The African middle class is currently growing at astronomical rates as incomes rise across the continent. Nigeria has seen 10 million people added to her middle class in the last 5 years, according to international equity firm Actis.

http://tradeflow21.com/2011/02/11/around-10-million-nigerians-moved-into-the-middle-income-bracket-in-the-past-5-years/

See, while the whole world sees the new Africa blossoming from the old post-colonial mess, all YOU see is negativity. Your mates are busy building the future. Maybe you need to get your head off CNN and read some decent economic journals etc. Do some independent research on the various African nations. Don't depend on the rubbish you see on CNN and mainstream western media. That way you can get a realistic picture of what is going on in Africa, and then start to contribute meaningfully.

all4naija: What is real about a nation with crumbs for the indigenous blacks?

khukhi:

Look who's talking.

I do hope you feel better about your homeland each time you post your comments.

Danka7777:

I wasn't trying to be immodest. I just wanted to share a little of my background for you to know who you talking with. I[b]f I and teams of engineers can design a war aircraft and drones to fly and bomb its target, it tells you that I would never speak of anything I have no evidence or facts on.[/b] So trust me, whatever I say on here is based on solid research and facts. I expected you to say: let me go and do my research and will get back to you. Had you said that I would had shown respect to you

khukhi:

Look who's talking.

I do hope you feel better about your homeland each time you post your comments.

I am in my homeland. I am presently in my mother's land and I feel better when I think about my papa'sland. You see I am on both sides. .

No fronting!

Wallie:

Dude, I call BS! What drones and aircraft did you help develop? Once you give the name(s) then name the State you're in. I'm pretty sure you're BS'ing because you said you're only 27, which means you graduated around 23 at the earliest. With ~4 years of experience, you won't even know enough to even understand how the system truly works not to talk of actually designing it! I also call BS on you controlling a team of 500 people. Which group is big enough to contain 500 people?

I'm not saying that you did not work for LM but you did not help develop crap and you sure as hell do not control 500 people! Go ahead and name the system/sub-system you helped develop and what clearance level you hold.

Your best bet is to probably just ignore this post if you do not want to be embarrassed!

Proud.SAfrican:
So much hot air has been blown in this forum and none of it has been put to good use.

We can continue to argue among ourselves about the inevitable truth that we all know. A truth that we continue to search for but its there staring at us.

Africa is tremendously under developed it doesn't matter what the historical reasons are (the fact that some of you feel Africa isn't inventive enough please go ahead and invent something so you can stop complaining) the focus should be how we can get ourselves out of this mess. We can continue to blame the past for what we find ourselves in but the only reason we are still in this mess is cause we are fixated on the problem and not the solution.

by the way South Africa isn't a developed country its quite far from it.

sithwell:

Africa has been always been good at diagnosing its problems. Fixing them, however - different kettle of fish.

The process is like this:

Wake up unhappy -> diagnose -> point fingers ->find someone in a worse position -> point fingers -> find someone in a better position -> point fingers -> diagnose -> go to bed feeling happy -> reality in-between ->wake up unhappy -> start the process all over again.

On-and-on it goes.

No end in sight.

redsun: Sadly because oyinbo was in control.Oyinbo used the blacks to develop south africa for themselves.Black south africans are jsut as developed as other africans.

L.Incomers:
Hypothetically....what most of ya'all is saying is that a Black nation cant rise without the presence of a white man.. ...How Unfortunate

Deep Sight: South Africa has an enormous infrastructural, and I dare say, even institutional superiority over Nigeria in every sector of the economy and in many places is no different from Europe or North America. However peeps should note two important facts:

1. There are also many areas in which South Africa will never be able to match Nigeria. The extent, quality and impact of the Nigerian Diaporua is one. The amount, quality, and exposure of Nigerian professionals is another. The size and power of the emerging Nigerian Middle Class is a third. The gutsy, first-class-citizen mentality of the average Nigerian is a fourth. People who have lived in SA will readily tell you that black South Africans are generally no match for Nigerians in any endeavour. They simply don't have the same self-esteem. This is a real observation.

2. There is a great deal of wretched poverty in SA as well. Like I said, developed areas are just like Europe and North America, but some of the slums make Ajegunle look pretty. Personally, the largest slum I have even seen in my life was just outside Jo'burg. I have never seen a slum as expansive as that anywhere in Nigeria. And I have never seen that levelof wretchedness so closely encamped on such a vast scale beside first-world level opulence.

all4naija: Then what have you done to find solution to the problems?

sithwell:

To the problems of Africa? You must be kidding.

all4naija: So, stop the blame and get along with African grievances.

Uyi Iredia:

No. What we said is that the development in a certain African country was because of the whites.