hitmanogo: Where was Soyinka when fashola sacked 788 doctors inlagos?

coogar:

sadly, nigeria is not a developed world.
in a developed world, unruly students won't
take to the streets because of such a minor issue.
so why do you expect the government to act like they are
in a developed world when the citizens behave like depraved animals?




parent/child? then education should be free if it's parent-child.
it's a landlord/property relationship. the students are tenants.
the authorities @ unilag are the caretaker and jonathan goodluck is the supreme landlord.




except that the name change did not affect the reputation/prestige of university of ife!!!
the students took it in their strides and moved on. within a matter of years, oau even became
louder than unife. why are unilag students behaving like hoodlums? the name change does not
reduce the value of unilag. it's still the most prestigious school in lagos state. it would not
reduce their standard(cut-off marks) neither will it fail to attract the best brains in nigeria.

all4naija: Please, stop saying all these! It makes the Nigerian citizens to be looked down upon by foreigners. It doesn't speak good of the people. That's not what the law says.

shymmex: I don't really know much about the educational system in Nigeria, but what I can deduce from the debate so far is that - the president didn't follow the due course in changing the name of the university.. Let's all agree that he was wrong - but how does that change the 'content'?

Is it me, or is it that the Nigerian psyche values the name of a thing - than the actual content?

How does the name change affects the value of the degree? Since, it's still the same university, the same edifice, the same Nigerian qualification (which won't get a job in a civilized country), and the same tutors?

Where were these students when the oil cabals were exposed by the national assembly?

Much ado about nothing - though I'm not a fan of the MKO guy.

I'm not saying that you do not have the authority to paint your house as you like, but you cannot just go ahead and paint without notifying the tenants.
There's usually a signed contract.

Now knowing that Unilag is FG owned, it still does not excuse the disrespectful steps GEJ took towards renaming the school.
According to your logic, since it's FG owned, if the students and staff don't like it, then they can leave. So if they do leave, what exactly is there to own?

Looking at this at a larger angle, GEJ is ruling the nation without regards to its occupants. May 29th was supposed to be about celebrating democracy, so is democracy not about the people? Is democracy not about serving the people?

I'm not saying that you do not have the authority to paint your house as you like, but you cannot just go ahead and paint without notifying the tenants.
There's usually a signed contract.

Now knowing that Unilag is FG owned, it still does not excuse the disrespectful steps GEJ took towards renaming the school.
According to your logic, since it's FG owned, if the students and staff don't like it, then they can leave. So if they do leave, what exactly is there to own?

Looking at this at a larger angle, GEJ is ruling the nation without regards to its occupants. May 29th was supposed to be about celebrating democracy, so is democracy not about the people? Is democracy not about serving the people?


Of what use is notifying the tenants when their opinion on painting the house is of no consequence? Regardless of how they feel about it, I possibly will still proceed with my intentions. So, what’s the use letting them know in the first place? Complete waste of time!!! For this reason, GEJ hasn’t done anything wrong or disrespected anybody. My only major concern is that my beloved university is named after a thief. I weep!!!!!!

al-ahamad:
@ cooger....no need to comment on ur "lugubriuos" falacy cos ur brain is entwined in a state of dismah-bismah....fcuktard

coogar:

you really agree with the don on this?

what difference does it make? unilag, maulag or malulag?
the university is owned by the federal government...the vice chancellor
was appointed by the federal government. the federal government pays the
salaries of the staff.....are you saying they cannot name their own establishment
any name they so wish?

if you build a house and rent it to tenants, you need their blessings to paint it?
gate it? put a borehole or whatever? i just believe nigerians have their priorities
misplaced. does the change of name devalue the certificate? does it increase the fees
paid by the students? jonathan is indeed a mumu. if i were the president, i would have
deployed a thousand s.w.a.t. teams to make those unruly tools some target practice.

hitmanogo: Where was Soyinka when fashola sacked 788 doctors inlagos? Something more pathetic. Abeg let Soyinka keep quiet.... It is evident he is biased against Jonathan...he should remove the speck in his eyes before he can see the log in Jonathan's eye.....

......While applauding the president for finally taking the bull by the horn and rendering honour unto whom honour is due.........

coogar:

you really agree with the don on this?

what difference does it make? unilag, maulag or malulag?
the university is owned by the federal government...the vice chancellor
was appointed by the federal government. the federal government pays the
salaries of the staff.....are you saying they cannot name their own establishment
any name they so wish?

if you build a house and rent it to tenants, you need their blessings to paint it?
gate it? put a borehole or whatever? i just believe nigerians have their priorities
misplaced. does the change of name devalue the certificate? does it increase the fees
paid by the students? jonathan is indeed a mumu. if i were the president, i would have
deployed a thousand s.w.a.t. teams to make those unruly tools some target practice.

all4naija: I said to not of. Yes, you do that through the law and the school law has not be consulted in this case. Even, if they take it to the court of law it can be vetoed by the president. I still think the due path needs to be followed when doing things in an organized way. Not until the nation leaders learn to be organized the country will remain the way it is.

odumorun 1: I strongly disagree with Wole Soyinka on this.

The furore regarding the renaming of Unilag is elitist posturing of the worst kind, dressed up in the garb of democratic protestation. This has nothing to do with anger that the council of the university was not consulted. The university and its senate and governing council do not fund the school. The school is funded by the federal government from the federal purse representing millions of hardworking Nigerians most of whose kids will never enjoy the benfit of a university education let alone a prestigious one like Unilag.

The storm in a tea cup is another example of middle class Nigerians, particularly yoruba ones (the most snobbish and self regarding version and yes i am a Yoruba) refusing to be associated with a person largely revered by the poorer classes. The same happened when Uiversity of Ife was renamed in 1987 in honour of Obafemi Awolowo, when a few hundred students largely of middle class origin demonstrated their objection, while the poor people in the town, carpentars, shoe makers, tailors and others who benefited from awo's reforms celebrated.

This is all about a few priviledged and educated yoruba people wanting to retain what they see as an eleitis label placing them apart from the majority of the population whom they secretly despise. If the school had been named after Barack Obama would they be protesting, even if it was done without consultation - Of course they wouldn't - they'll probably be fantasising about getting an easy visa ride in the American embassy.

Wole Soyinka is a radical and progressive Nigerian but his elitism is a well known flaw which is why he has never inspite of his undoubted courage been able to buod a mass following for his ideas.

Unilag is funded by the majority of the people of this country, not the students or their lecturers. Most ordiany Nigerians respect the sacrifices people like abiola made - they, not the spolit middle class kids kicking up a fuss in Unilag are the majority. The noisy minority in Unilag should be ignored. they will son go back to their Ipads

If they don't like the name when they receive their degrees let them rip them up. They don't own the school, the people do -i've not seen any demonstrations in mushin, shomolu, bere or sabongari against it.

If wole is not happy let him write a poem about his fury. He is a great man, but on this occasion he is wrong

kinguwem: No federal university is autonomous. Their sustenance is dependent on funding by the FG. Universities should focus more on research projects and proper utilization of FG subventions. Autonomy is associated with self-sustenance. Unilag is a FG institution and the FG has the authority to rename the institution. The renaming of Unilag to immortalize MKO is commendable.

2good:

President Jonathan is not the absolute owner of the Federal Government so he has no monopoly over every decision made by it. Federal government have 3 arms: Executive, legislative and Judiciary. University of Ife was renamed by the military where laws are decreed and implemented with no negotiation with the general public. Is that what you call democracy? We can as well go back to the military era because I see not a single sign of improvement in the quality if life of Nigerians since we switched back to civilian rule. I can also see that you obviously did not attend University of Lagos hence your indifference to whatever happens to it and also who gave you the impression that it is meant for the rich or elite? For the fact that many people find it difficult to get in does not mean that there are no smart people from poor home studying there.
The point is Mr president have to follow due process. Barrack Obama the most powerful man on earth, have been finding it difficult to pass lots of bills because congress just wont agree with his policies. That is what you call democracy where people discuss overtime to get a collective majority agreement.
If things continue the way they are going, Nigeria will not work on the long run because we are just postponing when a ticking time bomb will explode. Enough with dictatorship from so called civilian presidents

PStylish: Wow.
When people become too wise, they eventually become st.upid. That is the case with many Yorubas. They usually do not know what they want.
Some people are just against the present administration and will kick against anything that comes from it.
Thankfully, there will always be peeps like me who will put over sabi yorubas in check from time to time.
Its either Unilag or MAU or the like.That should be ok with everyone.ABU,OAU,ATBU,BUK were renamed with an intentional bias for their regions.

snellsun:
u speak witout wisdom. just go thru wat u av just written again and see ur ignorance.

denzel2009:
It makes a lot of difference changing names be it human being or an establishment. Do you know the stress women go through after marriage and adopting their husband's name? Apart from that, if you set up a company and run it for just 2 months and decide to change the name, the process you will go through with companies house and the alteration of your company's articles coupled with various resolutions to that effect will make you think twice.

Some nutter just woke up one morning with his charcoal face and speedboat of a hat and decides to change the name of an institution of higher learning without due consultations and brainstorming of the the effects of the change.
The universities that have had a change of name such as OOU and OAU still refer to the school as OSU and Ife. Name change is not a joke!

karpentar:


Of what use is notifying the tenants when their opinion on painting the house is of no consequence? Regardless of how they feel about it, I possibly will still proceed with my intentions. So, what’s the use letting them know in the first place? Complete waste of time!!! For this reason, GEJ hasn’t done anything wrong or disrespected anybody. My only major concern is that my beloved university is named after a thief. I weep!!!!!!
I'm not saying that you do not have the authority to paint your house as you like, but you cannot just go ahead and paint without notifying the tenants.
There's usually a signed contract.

Now knowing that Unilag is FG owned, it still does not excuse the disrespectful steps GEJ took towards renaming the school.
According to your logic, since it's FG owned, if the students and staff don't like it, then they can leave. So if they do leave, what exactly is there to own?

Looking at this at a larger angle, GEJ is ruling the nation without regards to its occupants. May 29th was supposed to be about celebrating democracy, so is democracy not about the people? Is democracy not about serving the people?


Of what use is notifying the tenants when their opinion on painting the house is of no consequence? Regardless of how they feel about it, I possibly will still proceed with my intentions. So, what’s the use letting them know in the first place? Complete waste of time!!! For this reason, GEJ hasn’t done anything wrong or disrespected anybody. My only major concern is that my beloved university is named after a thief. I weep!!!!!!

coogar:

you're a silly hilly billy!
what i wrote has more wisdom than your entire being.



but it's still done. why didn't paying customers protest when econet
became v-mobile and fuckever name they call themselves now? why didn't
nigerians protest when nepa became phcn...the only thing constant in life is
"change".

denzel2009:

You see, the stakeholders are different. Apart from the cost implications, the process of verification and sending of student transcripts to other higher institutions around the world and the discrepancies which would need to be explained every now and then.
Why can't he just immortalize him by changing the unilag MBA program to MKO Abiola business school or something in that respect.

odumorun 1:
ABIOLA WAS CORRUPT SO DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE HONORED

Agreed he was corrupt George Washington was also a slave owner. Winston Churchill was an avowed racist, as for the civil rights activist Rev Martin Luther King, he was a dyed in the wool hypocrite – he cheated on his wife so many times she became suicidal – that has not stopped their people loving them

it is only in Nollywood films that people are either totally good or absolutely bad. In real life there is always something in between. Most people have a mixture of both. People can only be judged by which of the two currents dominates in their character. Awolowo also made money from Government, but he also used public money to educate millions who would never have been educated if not for his policies. Akintola made money from Government but did nothing else for the people. So people liked awo but hated Akintola. That is the way the real world works. I don’t want my father to chase other women. But a man who chases other women and spends all his money on them cannot be compared to a man who chases women but still educates his children. Not perfect, but neither totally bad..

eGuerrilla:

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Katsumoto: My take

1. GEJ has the right to change the name but he should have consulted the relevant bodies i.e Alumni, university board, etc before changing the name.
2. Students and Alumni may be concerned about the brand of their school; they have every right to be.
3. Apart from dying for the the cause of democracy, MKO still remains the greatest philanthropist in Nigeria
4. It may be true that MKO was far from being a saint but what matters is that he gave his life for the cause even when he could have renounced his mandate
5. The University of Chicago Business School (a top 20 Global Business School) was renamed the Booth school of Business after Booth who donated $300 Million to the school. Ignoring the money factor, if students who paid in excess of $80,000 to get an MBA did not run riot all over Chicago, why are students who are paying less than $2000 rioting? More worrisome is that these same students are yet to protest over issues that will affect them directly.
6. The rebranding of the school could have been handled much better if all sides were involved in the process. I don't see any issue with renaming the school let alone after a man who paid the ultimate price.

MAULag students have demonstrated a rather myopic outlook which many of them will regret later. I say this because their actions has demonstrated that it is an effort in futility for anyone to give up his life for that country. After this episode, many will justify their lukewarm attitude or even outright hostility towards progress by referring to this action of these students.

odumorun 1:
UNILAG IS A BRAND NAME

denzel2009:
You see, the stakeholders are different. Apart from the cost implications, the process of verification and sending of student transcripts to other higher institutions around the world and the discrepancies which would need to be explained every now and then.
Why can't he just immortalize him by changing the unilag MBA program to MKO Abiola business school or something in that respect.