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Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by mbulela: 2:37pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Kobojunkie:I am not saying that he should not declare his assets, i am just pointing out that there are more important issues and whether he declares or not, the bazaar continues. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by vanstanzy(m): 3:19pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
bayooooooo: By SaharaReporters, New York Like a commentator said, The above is a very clear indication of the backwardness of Nigerian leaders. Unfortunately there was hardly anything inspiring or encouraging in the whole "chat". It either demonstrates either a complete lack of understanding of the Nigerian issues or an under estimation of the gravity and seriousness of those issues. I was completely disappointed with the vagueness and shallowness of the responses to the questions that equally lacked depth. I thought our CIC was supposed to be a Phd holder? Was expecting more intellectual and academic depth, no wonder outsiders beyond the shores of Nigeria often marvel at the celebration of indolence and shoddiness in our country? Sad that the only caller who got through was only able to do so after about an hour? Can you compare this comedy from the Giant of Africa - our leaders should spend more time watching the press engagement between POTUS and the American press! Most certain their IQs are not a million times more. "THIS GEJ IS A TYRANT IN THE MAKING JUST WATCH AND SEE". GEJ has no ideas at all, as much as i hate saying this, this country is finished with this sort, at the helm of affairs. "GOD PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON US!" |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by uzomagic(m): 4:25pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
OAM4J: I can not point to anything inspiring in the whole chat.Nothing will inspire you because you lack the capacity to be inspired |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by uzomagic(m): 5:35pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
engineerd:He used the words publicly declare assets. The constitution demands that he declare his assets to the code of conduct bureau and he did that. However he did not declare it to the public. Now if the members of the public want to know, they can demand it from the Code of Conduct Bureau in line with the provisions of the Freedom of information Act which was also signed into law promptly by this administration after its passage by the National Assembly. Jonathan did not have to declare his assets to the media as this would amount to playing to the gallery |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Pukkah: 5:39pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
uzomagic: Nothing will inspire you because you lack the capacity to be inspired What part of the chat inspired you? This is what you should point out to him rather than resort to snide remarks. 1 Like |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Elueme: 5:43pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
akthedream: You are missing it man.He out to have done it as soon as he was voted into power if really he had a sincere mind towards our country Nigeria.Just like oustanding salaries,no matter how long it will take,he should no be above the law.same they would have said if the president had not gone to Brazil' lily livered GEJ was stopped from representing the country in a very important summit by common Boko Haram'.. The man had demonstrated guts nd meanness, so commend him.. Naija una mouth too much |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Elueme: 5:51pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
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Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Kobojunkie: 5:52pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
mbulela: I disagree with you. This is a very important issue in the fight against corruption. In fact, this fight will get nowhere if we are not able to correctly TRACK THE NUMBERS and we all know where those digits and dollars end up at the end of it all. In the accounts of those we consider high ranking officials. How in the world can you suggest that tracking the assets of those in power is not important? Are you having an off day or what? How do you think you catch the stealing senators, or governors or even presidents if you don't at least have a starting point? 1 Like |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Elueme: 5:57pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Guys, sincerely if wat makes the president's speech shallow and not inspiring is English I guess u look for an alternate source to solving your deficiencies because the cic of the federal republic of Nigeria has got more important issues than entertaining disdained elements like you with melodrama of vocabulary.. Wait why didn't your parents sent you to good schools @ least a grammar school. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by ubandire(m): 6:02pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
dedeike: Best presidential media chat ever in recent times. mr president clearly won our hearts with his answers on so many of the issues raised. Thank you Bayoooo for posting this summary so that people like KOBOJUNKIE will be well informed That's if people like junkie put blind sentiment and bias aside.Mr President did very well I've never been let in to the agenda of govt this much all burning issues where handled and explained very well by GEJ,I a bright peaceful future with this man,let's rally round him to achieve his mission,Nigeria is our's. Kudos GEJ keep it up! |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Kobojunkie: 6:11pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Sealeddeal: Is the declaration of assets the only thing dat GEJ talked about yesterday? Why is every1 interested in it and what is the need for Public declaration of asset when constitution didnt stipulate that.what law mentioned was that a public officer should declare his assets to CCB from whom any interested body can obtain it.so public declaration of assest is not lawful.but,even if GEJ flouts the law,i dont think nigerians should be surprised because there is not a single nigeria that obey the law. On other issues presented by GEJ,he is right on point.i commend his govt for its strategy and carefulness.i am not equally saying dat people should not criticised the govt because not everybody will like everything. Olodo!!! Go educate yourself and stop rambling. There is no such thing as Public or Private declaration of asset. Asset declaration is ALWAYS been to CCB, and CCB is mandated by law (Schedule 3, section 3 of the Constitution) to release all data it receives to any Nigerian who wants it. . . it has never been private and should not be confused with some OPTIONAL protocol out there. Now, again, go read up on what your law says rather than sitting swallowing up all the gobble-de-gook your politicians say as if they speak truth when they OPENLY BREAK THE LAW , and tell you they don't give a darn. http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm Only fools will continue to choose to wallow in ignorance even after wisdom has been given them freely. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by uzomagic(m): 6:28pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
akthedream: You forgot so points..On asset declaration, statutorily, assets are declared to the CCB but declaring it to the public is discretionary. 2.Given the large coverage and viewership that the media chat received, you'd be foolish not to expect jammed lines. 3. I'm at a loss as to what you mean by "PDP patrons". 4. Azazi was sacked because there was need for a change in security strategy and personnel. And you'd agree that change is good |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by eedriyz(m): 6:50pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Calls can't get in? We watches "who wants to be a millioniare" now. That's the most disgusting part. And how can a president use such an abusive word? Damn! Foolish man. Thank God I chosse to watch Euros instead |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Mandelaguy(m): 6:53pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Sesan2: Here is what the President said regarding the Brazil trip:Run a research on JTF, what they have been doing, the fight against terror, GEJ's campaign etc, or do you want him to come on air and reveal security strategies and next line of action? Maybe you want the BH to find out what measures are been put in place to sacrifice our innocent gallant officers. Sorry to disappoint you and your lot. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Kobojunkie: 6:59pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
uzomagic: On asset declaration, statutorily, assets are declared to the CCB but declaring it to the public is discretionary. 2.Given the large coverage and viewership that the media chat received, you'd be foolish not to expect jammed lines. 3. I'm at a loss as to what you mean by "PDP patrons". 4. Azazi was sacked because there was need for a change in security strategy and personnel. And you'd agree that change is good Rubbish . . . stop rambling like a to wo bo!!! Assets are declared to CCB. Jonathan Goodluck HAS NOT declared his asset to the CCB. The media can easily get at the information if it were at the CCB since CCB, under Schedule 3, Section 3 of the Constitution, is required by law to make the information available to any and every Nigerian. Stop reproducing the gobble-de-gook fed you by others. Your President told you yesterday why he has not declared his assets(declaring assets according to the Constitution means declaring the information at the CCB). If the man himself tells you that he has not declared his asset, don't you think you will have to be an imbe_cile of the highest order to expect that he has? http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#CodeOfConductBureau 1.[size=13pt] The Code of Conduct Bureau[/size] shall comprise the following members: This is what the law says in Schedule 3,Section 3. The information from the declarations will be made PUBLIC! That is what Jonathan is afraid of and hence why he refuses to declare his asset more than a year into the term. 1 Like |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Mandelaguy(m): 7:06pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Kobojunkie:junkie,go to CCB and ask for a copy of his declaration tomorrow morning, am sure it will be given to you. This is how you go about spreading lies on unfounded facts. I asked you on the othe thread and I will ask you again, have you gone to CCB for a copy of GEJ's asset declaration and was denied? |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Kobojunkie: 7:21pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
uzomagic: On asset declaration, statutorily, assets are declared to the CCB but declaring it to the public is discretionary. 2.Given the large coverage and viewership that the media chat received, you'd be foolish not to expect jammed lines. 3. I'm at a loss as to what you mean by "PDP patrons". 4. Azazi was sacked because there was need for a change in security strategy and personnel. And you'd agree that change is good Rubbish . . . stop rambling like a to wo bo!!! Assets are declared to CCB. Jonathan Goodluck HAS NOT declared his asset to the CCB. The media can easily get at the information if it were at the CCB since CCB, under Schedule 3, Section 3 of the Constitution, is required by law to make the information available to any and every Nigerian. Stop reproducing the gobble-de-gook fed you by others. Your President told you yesterday why he has not declared his assets(declaring assets according to the Constitution means declaring the information at the CCB). If the man himself tells you that he has not declared his asset, don't you think you will have to be an imbe_cile of the highest order to expect that he has? http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#CodeOfConductBureau 1.[size=13pt] The Code of Conduct Bureau[/size] shall comprise the following members: This is what the law says in Schedule 3,Section 3. The information from the declarations will be made PUBLIC! That is what Jonathan is afraid of and hence why he refuses to declare his asset more than a year into the term. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by rhymz(m): 7:35pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Kobojunkie:what exactly is your problem sef, this Junkie Lady, you just like to dey argue for the fun of it. Has President Goodluck Jonathan and Vice President Namadi Sambo complied with the constitutional provision which required them to declare their assets on assumption of office? The answer is a bold yes. It was reported in may 27, 2010 that they had submitted their asset declaration to CCB. Now, if CCB refuses to make it available to the public, it is an entirely different argument whose blame should rest more on the leadership of CCB than with Mr President, shikina. If Mr President decides to make it a public show like his predecessor, Yaradua did, it is a "jara" that is based on his discretion and not a requirement of the constitution from him. There is no place in the 11th code of the bureau’s handbook for Public Officers, that says that the president must go public in declaring his assets. Stop distracting Nigerians from the main issues with blind argument that seems to suggest that the man did not the what is required of him in the first place. After all, Besides Yaradua that did it point to any other Nigerian President that did it. Like the man said, "it is a matter of principle and not a constitutional requirement", let it rest or better still, get a lawyer and file a complaint. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Kobojunkie: 7:42pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
uzomagic: On asset declaration, statutorily, assets are declared to the CCB but declaring it to the public is discretionary. 2.Given the large coverage and viewership that the media chat received, you'd be foolish not to expect jammed lines. 3. I'm at a loss as to what you mean by "PDP patrons". 4. Azazi was sacked because there was need for a change in security strategy and personnel. And you'd agree that change is good Rubbish . . . stop rambling like a to wo bo!!! Assets are declared to CCB. Jonathan Goodluck HAS NOT declared his asset to the CCB. The media can easily get at the information if it were at the CCB since CCB, under Schedule 3, Section 3 of the Constitution, is required by law to make the information available to any and every Nigerian. Stop reproducing the gobble-de-gook fed you by others. Your President told you yesterday why he has not declared his assets(declaring assets according to the Constitution means declaring the information at the CCB). If the man himself tells you that he has not declared his asset, don't you think you will have to be an imbe_cile of the highest order to expect that he has? http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#CodeOfConductBureau 1.[size=13pt] The Code of Conduct Bureau[/size] shall comprise the following members: This is what the law says in Schedule 3,Section 3. The information from the declarations will be made PUBLIC! That is what Jonathan is afraid of and hence why he refuses to declare his asset more than a year into the term. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by rhymz(m): 7:56pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Kobojunkie:Madam the joke is on you. It is you who is oozing with stupifying ignorance. You can google it up yourself, We all know it your favourite hobby for you to argue based your googled up knowledge, you are not "all-knowing" as you seem to think of yourself, afterall. After Yaradua died Jonathan picked his Vice and on assunption of office, they filled the asset declaration form and submitted them on May 27, 2010 to CCB. However, CCB refused to make its content public, how is that Jonathan's problem? The FOI act you are flaunting here was aggressively altered to the point of deficiency before the President assented. So, while you are busy shouting FOI act, it should be noted that the FOI Act contains more exemption sections and clauses than sections that grant access to information, alerting that some mischievous public officers can use these sections for unjust and mischievous purposes. For instance, only Sections 1 and 3 grant access to information; but as many as ten sections (Sections 7, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 26) are meant to deny the public access to information. In view of all these challenges in the FOI act, the leadership of the CCB can easily hide under one of these ten sections to male their arguments and deny the public of such information, has it even crossed your mind at all? You think lawyers have not seen these loopholes hence their possible reluctance to go to court. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Kobojunkie: 8:29pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
It seems the PDP politicians are unusually quiet about yesterday's chat. If it went so well, you would think they would at least come out to say something. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by osifred(m): 8:50pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
onye_ngbu*:Yes she is 1 Like |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Johndoe100(m): 9:08pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
osifred: You are learning from kobo? Boy I think you should learn from someone who is actually in Nigeria. He, kobo is not all there. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Nobody: 9:39pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
The Freedom of Information (FOI) Act can't make the Code of Conduct Bureau (CCB) to release assets declaration details of President Goodluck Jonathan, as a provision of the Nigerian constitution has "precluded the bureau the liberty" to do so. Source http://allafrica.com/stories/201202280678.html Blind critics, please go to rest |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Kobojunkie: 9:42pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
^^ I will play Blind Critic so I can ask you some very simple question for you. You just read that. What do you think that says? Have you seen what the Constitution itself(not even the FOI) really says that the CCB has to do with every document they have in their possession? I know it is posted up there but I am of the mind that many of you here do not read at all. Prove me wrong if you can. Are you saying that we should not believe what Jonathan Goodluck said on LIVE TV yesterday then? You mean the President LIED to Nigerians yesterday? |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Nobody: 9:58pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
FOI Act not binding on us - CCB The Federal Government had in a circular dated January 29, 2012, from the office of the Attorney General and Minister of Justice, Mohammed Adoke, ordered ministries, agencies, departments and all other public institutions to start implementing the FOI Act. But the bureau argued that it needs the National Assembly "to spell out the conditions and terms" upon which it would reveal such information requested by the newspaper. The CCB letter read thus: "The Code of Conduct Bureau wishes to acknowledge the receipt of your letter dated 3rd June, 2011 on the above subject and to inform you that the Bureau has adequately and carefully examined your request vis-à-vis the relevant provisions of the Freedom of Information Act, the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and the constitutional powers and obligations of the Code of Conduct Bureau. [b] "It is the considered opinion of the Bureau that the provision of paragraph 3(c) of Part 1 of the Third Schedule to the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria has precluded the Bureau the liberty to oblige you what you have requested. The provision states thus: 'The Bureau shall have power to retain custody of Assets Declarations and make them available for inspection by any citizen of Nigeria on such terms and conditions as the National Assembly may prescribe.'" It added that, "it is the contention of the bureau that: (a) The Constitution is Supreme Law of the land. Its provisions, therefore, take precedence over any other Act, Law or Regulation. "(b) The provisions of the Freedom of Information Act could not substitute the constitutional requirements of the National Assembly to prescribe the terms and conditions under which Assets Declarations could be released. "(c) The National Assembly, as of date, did not provide the Bureau, as custodian of Asset Declarations, those terms and conditions under which we could release the information to the public. "In the circumstances, therefore, until the National Assembly prescribes such terms and conditions, the Code of Conduct Bureau would find it impossible to grant your request," CCB said. [/b] Adoke's circular on FOI Act implementation Adoke's circular entitled, "Implementation of the Freedom of Information Act 2011 and the Reporting Requirements under Section 29 Thereof" outlined guidelines and modalities to be adopted by the various public institutions in implementing the law. It said that agencies are required to "work proactively and respond to requests promptly. Public institutions are enjoined to use modern technology to inform citizens of what is known and done by their government," adding that "agencies should readily and systematically post information online in advance of any public request." The document also urged the agencies to "make it a priority to respond to in a timely manner" any information not previously disclosed, warning that "long delays should not be viewed as an inevitable and insurmountable consequence of high demand." |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Kobojunkie: 9:58pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Again . . . ^^ I will play Blind Critic so I can ask you some very simple question for you. Are you saying that we should not believe what Jonathan Goodluck said on LIVE TV yesterday then? You mean the President LIED to Nigerians yesterday? |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by rhymz(m): 10:02pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
Johndoe100:hahahahahahha....kid is mesmerized by Junkie's incessant rant and round and round arguments...lol na person wey never sabi her go dey yarn d kind jonesing wey the kid dey jones..... Kobo that can start a fight in a an empty room all by herself....lol |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Nobody: 10:17pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
@kobo junkie First and foremost. Madame/sir, whichever one, you have been disproved in the above post, of the lies you have been peddling that the president did not make a declaration of his assets prior to his resumption of office, as president of the Federal republic. The letter from the CCB, clearly answers your questions, the constitution has PROVISIONS ! Which precludes the information from being provided ma / sir. Search well, you will see it. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Kobojunkie: 10:23pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
df2006: @kobo junkie Disproved? Are you having comprehension problems? I asked you if the President lied to the Nation yesterday when he declare the truth which is that he has not declared his asset and does not want to go against his principles? Letter from CCB? [size=14pt]Of course CCB is not bound by FOI but by the Constitution. The Constitution requires that the CCB give the information to every Nigerian Citizen, not FOI. And I already posted it up there for you to read. [/size] If the President declared yesterday that he did not believe in Asset Declaration, and even said he did not grudgingly in 2007, are you saying the President lied on June 24th 2012 when you suggest that he has in fact declared his asset? |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
It is such terms and conditions, Mr president yesterday, said the National Assembly should clarify, until then his assets declaration remains with the relevant bodies, and not to the public, and he doesn't give a damn what you think about it. |
Re: GEJ Media Chat- Summary In Print. by jmaine: 10:30pm On Jun 25, 2012 |
rhymz: hahahahahahha....kid is mesmerized by Junkie's incessant rant and round and round arguments...lol |
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