Unemadu:


Ofcourse, why wont they? Even the greatest of enemies trade with each othe as given by the ethipiopia-eritrea example. Even sudan and south sudan have oil pipeline deals. So u think if Nigeria allows Biafra be then we will become eternal enemies? Think again.

Where is the fun in being friends with people that have the blood of your kins men on their hands?

Some of us dont forget like that, unless we have chosen to forgive. We dont forgive people that are not sorry, for wat they did and if given the chance, will do it again or worst.

Enemies it is.

ezeagu:


No, Igbo people took all the land and pushed everyone else to the swamp. Look at a topological map.

This is a mole here, I can bet with my scrotum

cjrane:
Good debate.
The funny thing is that Abagworo keeps warming about including SS to those that have not included them. It goes to show you Nigerians delude themselves with the thought that if the SS does not want Biafra, Igbos will give up. It exposes the dangerous mindset of Igbo enemies that think Igbo want SS for oil Just because that is what Hausa and Yoruba wants from SS.

The truth is that Biafra will be prosperous SS or not. How much oil does Japan or China have? On the other hand Venezuela has 4 times more oil than the entire Africa and its in economic depression.

Gbam! We keep telling them that Biafra is not by force. We are primarily interested in our Igbo people and any non-igbos are subject to approval. We may even reject you.


We have Seaport in Abia. We just have not built the Obuaku seaport.


There are many more site that links directly to the Atlantic Ocean. Ndiigbo are not landlock.

Stolen:


Where is the fun in being friends with people that have the blood of your kins men on their hands?

Some of us dont forget like that, unless we have chosen to forgive. We dont forgive people that are not sorry, for wat they did and if given the chance, will do it again or worst.

Enemies it is.

Thats not how things work in real life. Its all about Mutual interest

Unemadu:


Thats not how things work in real life. Its all about Mutual interest

Mutual interest that was non-existent in Nigeria for consideration, will now be considered? Wat mutual interest do we have with blood suckers?

If you are talking about Lagos, u can keep it.

I just want those igbo people to return home. Bring back their skill and specialism. We will need them.

centje:
A lot of times, you write like a kid, it's either you're truely mischievous as people say or you have limited knowledge of the discourse.

Was Biafra soley an Igbo Agenda?? Was the present south east the only area in Biafra? That igbos were the major tribe doesn't dismiss the fact that many other tribes believed and fought for liberation, under the name Biafra. If Biafra had succeeded, would all these attack on igbo be founded? Media and successive governments made the struggle an igbo thing, and naturally, people dissociate from failure. If it was soley an igbo thing and other constituent tribes/regions of Biafra didn't join the secession, why then was Rivers State (including the present Bayelsa State), Cross River State, Delta State etc bombarded by Nigerian troops? Why was the surrender broadcast done by Effiong?

I have lived in Bayelsa State, a good number of them believe in Biafra, and call themselves Biafrans. Just like Buddamonk posted, if Nigeria breaks, new countries and new alliance emerges. Just let any region cause a crack by breaking away and watch how the rest of the country will shatter.

The only thing that can keep this country one is to stop marginalisation of constituent regions, let there be a fair play. Anything outside this is a fuel that keeps the agitation burning.

I don't have problem being a Nigerian, I don't also have problem relating to people of other part of the country, i have relations from every part of Nigeria, i like Nigeria, but I can't fully be patriotic to a sovereignty that treats me like a refugee. The worst federal roads are in the east including Cross River area, how do you aspect me not to be pro-biafra. I will support Nigeria, but if given a chance to choose or vote, I won't give a second thought to choose Biafra, if things continue the way they are in this country.

Hausas has not really 'ruled' since the return of democracy, but they and the rest of Nigeria did havoc in the east under military rule, now (under Buhari) is a very good chance to pacify igbos and rest of the east and make amends for past atrocities. The last voting pattern is a glaring evidence of how igbos percieve Hausas. And even if tomorrow comes such voting pattern will repeat itself, if Hausas and rest of the country keep relegating and ploting against igbos and rest of easterners. I pray they see this opportunity before them, and play fair. If otherwise is case, and systematic under-development of east continues, then the Hausa/igbo enemity deepens and the relationship gap widdens.

A lot of people may not like what i wrote but that's the truth, the reality in Nigeria today. There's a fault in our inter tribal relationship in this country ( mostly in political realm), we should find a way to seal it rather than widening it or pretending they don't exist.

There was nothing wrong with ur submissions. Infact,you nailed it.Biafra agitation is a fall out of the state sponsored systematic exclusion and oppression of Igbos. If the current political,social and economic arrangement continue,then we all can bet that Nigeria's disintegration will happen faster than envisaged. Buhari's body language ain't helping matters,sadly. Abagworo,unfortunately,desires Igbos continue groaning in the current shuffling set up. It is well!

Unemadu:


Ofcourse, why wont they? Even the greatest of enemies trade with each othe as given by the ethipiopia-eritrea example. Even sudan and south sudan have oil pipeline deals. So u think if Nigeria allows Biafra be then we will become eternal enemies? Think again.

This is what many people don't understand about international trade, policies, relationship and diplomacy.

If Igbo leave Nigeria today, tomorrow growing resentment will envelope Nigeria from different quaters everybody demanding for a better package or be left off the hook.

Russia and Britain are sworn enemies but there are Russia investments in UK, even in the US many NBA clubs are Russian owned.
US is restoring diplomatic ties with Cuba and Iran after decades of severing them.

If Biafra is landlocked Nigeria will see the economic importance of opening her ports for Biafra import and recoup the import duties. If they refused Biafra can import from Benin Republic and use ECOWAS treaty to send her consignments to their destination.

Many people doesn't even know that majority of Nigeria imports are from Benin Republic yet Nigeria have 5 seaports.

Biafra won't be a perpetual enemy of Nigeria neither will Nigeria see Biafra as perpetual enemy, regional and sub regional issues will reduce the tension

BuddahMonk:


This is what many people don't understand about international trade, policies, relationship and diplomacy.

If Igbo leave Nigeria today, tomorrow growing resentment will envelope Nigeria from different quaters everybody demanding for a better package or be left off the hook.

Russia and Britain are sworn enemies but there are Russia investments in UK, even in the US many NBA clubs are Russian owned.
US is restoring diplomatic ties with Cuba and Iran after decades of severing them.

If Biafra is landlocked Nigeria will see the economic importance of opening her ports for Biafra import and recoup the import duties. If they refused Biafra can import from Benin Republic and use ECOWAS treaty to send her consignments to their destination.

Many people doesn't even know that majority of Nigeria imports are from Benin Republic yet Nigeria have 5 seaports.

Biafra won't be a perpetual enemy of Nigeria neither will Nigeria see Biafra as perpetual enemy, regional and sub regional issues will reduce the tension

F9!


U attach too much credibility to Nigeria. Biafra will mark the total disintegration of Nigeria, just like the Soviet Union.

More countries will emerge. Those left behind will be locked in a better war with Nigeria for independence.

Buhari is towing your extremely unlikely line of reasoning, hoping that Fulani domination and rule will be accepted.

The Russian had hoped for similar but were met with succession after succession. They are pepetually fighting a Civil war that will never end with chechnya.

BuddahMonk:


Oga you keep shifting goalpost and punching holes.
Deviating from why Igbos don't invest in Igboland because of seaport to why they do invest in North because of political clout of the North.

So Johannesburg is not a country but Igboland is a country

The argument makes no sense. You must not love your nuts.

BuddahMonk:


This is what many people don't understand about international trade, policies, relationship and diplomacy.

If Igbo leave Nigeria today, tomorrow growing resentment will envelope Nigeria from different quaters everybody demanding for a better package or be left off the hook.

Russia and Britain are sworn enemies but there are Russia investments in UK, even in the US many NBA clubs are Russian owned.
US is restoring diplomatic ties with Cuba and Iran after decades of severing them.

If Biafra is landlocked Nigeria will see the economic importance of opening her ports for Biafra import and recoup the import duties. If they refused Biafra can import from Benin Republic and use ECOWAS treaty to send her consignments to their destination.

Many people doesn't even know that majority of Nigeria imports are from Benin Republic yet Nigeria have 5 seaports.

Biafra won't be a perpetual enemy of Nigeria neither will Nigeria see Biafra as perpetual enemy, regional and sub regional issues will reduce the tension

Can you really compare Europe with Nigeria? Wasn't Nigeria the same place where Nigerians were being deported from their own country?

Kcinho:

I think I heard daily sha. This isn't the only house. The other pix have workers faces on them

wow that means the poultry farm is really big then


http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/12/tara-ebony-stoke-rice-revolution-adani-ikwo/

From the story above Tara agro said the rice paddies are not enough to sustain the mill hence paddies from north are brought to Tara agro for mill processing..tara agro was initially located in taraba but had to be relocated to uzo uwani because of security challenges..Tara agro should contact coched rice farms

Igboland needs to be water-tight secured before anything else. Am not comfortable with what is going on in this country at the moment. Ndiigbo be on alert

Buhari is Shekau in power

asha80:
wow that means the poultry farm is really big then


http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/12/tara-ebony-stoke-rice-revolution-adani-ikwo/

From the story above Tara agro said the rice paddies are not enough to sustain the mill hence paddies from north are brought to Tara agro for mill processing..tara agro was initially located in taraba but had to be relocated to uzo uwani because of security challenges..Tara agro should contact coched rice farms

^^^See how they're shooting themselves in the foot up north!? Agriculture that should have been one of the strengths of the north east is now faltering and Tarabas' loss is now Ebonyis' gain!

Bishop42:
When people say igbos don't speak with one voice people like the dudes above me are the reason why. They are always in the minority but very strangely vocal. No normal person who calls himself a patriot would go against popular opinion

This may just be the dumbest post that I have ever come across on this thread (no offence). It's because of statements like you that Igbos may never be united. Unity does not mean that everyone must agree to the same thing. And who are you to determine what is agreed by the majority. Who took a poll? We must learn to entertain different ideas and suggestions and the lack of that has always been the bane of the Igbo nation. Some of you are just stubborn and are not ready to hear others out. You just want to force everyone to agree with you.

asha80:
wow that means the poultry farm is really big then


http://dailyindependentnig.com/2014/12/tara-ebony-stoke-rice-revolution-adani-ikwo/

From the story above Tara agro said the rice paddies are not enough to sustain the mill hence paddies from north are brought to Tara agro for mill processing..tara agro was initially located in taraba but had to be relocated to uzo uwani because of security challenges..Tara agro should contact coched rice farms

From my interactions with the locals/rice farmers in the area there hasn't been enough community participation. Many of the farmers say they are being exploited by the owners of the mill who price their harvests so low. Hence the short supply, so they prefer to process and sell them on their own to at least make reasonable profit.
The article reeks of ignorance though. Ogwurugwu is a large agrarian town in ogboli development centre Uzouwani LGA not a village as stated. Other agrarian towns in the area include Igga, Ojo, Asaba, Adani. Most of the rice farmers are actually from Igga, Ogwurugwu and ojo towns. Adani (though has rice farmers ) is more of a market centre/town where everyone comes to sell his farm preduce due to its strategic location.

BuddahMonk:


Ezeagu said igbos can't invest in igboland because of lack of seaport then I ask him if there is one in kano or Kaduna but he didn't answer me.

Is there any seaport in Johannesburg SA the richest city in South Africa and her economic capital ?

Afam why do Igbos request for haven and earth before they want to invest in igboland. they will tell you there is no airport in Anambra and Abia, when you ask them to invest in Enugu or owerri that there is one there they will tell you there is no seaport in those places.

Seaport or not, with effective transportation arrangement and perfect marketing strategy you can dominate any part of the country with your products.

Nnewi people will import motorcycle from abroad, move it from Lagos down to Nnewi, people from Lagos will go to Nnewi and buy motorcycle parts and return back to Lagos.

Oga na brain nobi muscle, its not about the size of ones skull.

You have a point but these things are easier said than done. Have you asked yourself why the Yorubas and Hausas don't have the same problems Igbos have as far as investing at home is concerned? Why do we have that problem? It's simple. Our development was altered as a result of the civil war. Yes, our people have recovered in terms of pursuing their dreams but the problem is that most of these people did not do it in Igboland. They did it in Lagos, Abuja, Port-hacourt, Kano, US, UK and other parts of the world and some of them came back to Igboland to build houses and that is what has even made Igboland to develop to the level that it is now. There's still a problem though. We have to convince the Igbo intelligentsia who live in these places to return home but we have to be practical in our approach. How will you tell a Zinox who manufactures computers to leave Lagos(the commercial capital of Nigeria and the place where most of his computers will be sold) or Abuja to move to Enugu or Owerri. The question he will ask you is, what can Enugu and Owerri offer. Let's not forget that he is a business man and not necessarily a philantropist and as such the thinks about the business implication of his company before anything else. The best he can do is to setup Afrihub in Universities in Igboland which he has done. Now, to be practical, the onus rests on the shoulders of the Governors of the 5 eastern states to make their states business friendly by providing constant electricity, access roads, seaports and airports to make it attractive to Igbos first and foremost before anyone else. If Igboland was that attractive, we would have seen non Igbos investing there.

Since all of you have refused to see the importance of seaport, I'll have to take my time and educate you the importance of the seaport to igbos.

Do you have cordial relationship with your neighbours? No

Do they envy and hate you? Yes.

Even if you force our brothers to invest home, don't deceive yourselves our brothers are not mightily rich like y'all think. For them to maintain constant production and this dead power system in this country, they need to cut cost at one point. If you check the two factors, electricity and transport, any manufacturer will choose electricity over transport. The eastern part of the country will make the manufacturer still spend on transport and the fear of his goods either being confiscated or destroyed in accident. Brothers, let them suffer one, first, that's power!

Even if our brothers invest back home, what do you think our brothers are? MEGA-BILLIONAIRES? Please stop living in denial. We have few people that can employ 1,000 capacity and pay servicing companies. So, if you can't create a seaport, our brothers will still use our brothers to do very stressful work and we end up hating the billionaires, simple.

What the seaport will do this, its going to open up things that you haven't seen before! The hurricane growth that will engulf the east will be tremendous. It will not be quantifiable.

If it goes as planned:

1. Over 2million igbos will be employed immediately! At a spot.

2. Goods security for our brothers and investment.

3. Real Estate will grow drastically and our graduate will smile.

4. Different firms will spring up, everthing will start moving faster than any other thing.

5. The igbos will have power, they'll control their future if this happens.

There are many more things that will happen if the seaport coupled with specialised rail system is used. I doubt if you will love travel out of this country.

NB: our brothers are traders, importers and exporters. If you take their means of livelihood from them telling them they can live without the sea, you have just caused the highest disunity you will ever handle in this world.

VickJames:
Since all of you have refused to see the importance of seaport, I'll have to take my time and educate you the importance of the seaport to igbos.

Do you have cordial relationship with your neighbours? No

Do they envy and hate you? Yes.

Even if you force our brothers to invest home, don't deceive yourselves our brothers are not mightily rich like y'all think. For them to maintain constant production and this dead power system in this country, they need to cut cost at one point. If you check the two factors, electricity and transport, any manufacturer will choose electricity over transport. The eastern part of the country will make the manufacturer still spend on transport and the fear of his goods either being confiscated or destroyed in accident. Brothers, let them suffer one, first, that's power!

Even if our brothers invest back home, what do you think our brothers are? MEGA-BILLIONAIRES? Please stop living in denial. We have few people that can employ 1,000 capacity and pay servicing companies. So, if you can't create a seaport, our brothers will still use our brothers to do very stressful work and we end up hating the billionaires, simple.

What the seaport will do this, its going to open up things that you haven't seen before! The hurricane growth that will engulf the east will be tremendous. It will not be quantifiable.

If it goes as planned:

1. Over 2million igbos will be employed immediately! At a spot.

2. Goods security for our brothers and investment.

3. Real Estate will grow drastically and our graduate will smile.

4. Different firms will spring up, everthing will start moving faster than any other thing.

5. The igbos will have power, they'll control their future if this happens.

There are many more things that will happen if the seaport coupled with specialised rail system is used. I doubt if you will love travel out of this country.

NB: our brothers are traders, importers and exporters. If you take their means of livelihood from them telling them they can live without the sea, you have just caused the highest disunity you will ever handle in this world.

Vickjames, I ordinarily respect your views. But your arguement here is like educating Saudi Arabia about the disadvantages of having a desert to a fertile rainforest Or telling Germany the importance of oil, knowing they don't have that resource.

To what effect is such arguement if nothing can be done to change it? You can suggest how to encourage friendly alliance to assure Alwa Ibom that we shall use their Ibaka port if they build it. All those lake ideas and Suez Canal are just academic exercise

cjrane:



Vickjames, I ordinarily respect your views. But your arguement here is like educating Saudi Arabia about the disadvantages of having a desert to a fertile rainforest Or telling Germany the importance of oil, knowing they don't have that resource.

To what effect is such arguement if nothing can be done to change it? You can suggest how to encourage friendly alliance to assure Alwa Ibom that we shall use their Ibaka port if they build it. All those lake ideas and Suez Canal are just academic exercise

simple...that is why I have not bothered contributing to the discourse..i mean isn't it obvious that big ocean liners that birth in apapa Lagos can only birth in a deep sea area of which that ibaka or is it ibeno axis csn accommodate? Even ph and warri cant seem to do that because they need to constantly dredged..likewise calabar...obuaku I dare say will probably be for large barges and would probably need constant dredging for ocean liners

My own case here are two major important submissions!!!!

Number one ... I want to urge every igbo business man to consider building fourth estate!! I have been hammering on this for soooo long... since 2011!!!!!!
we have a lot to showcase on the media to the world!! and we also have capable young men and women... that can do these jobs. I was so bitter when I saw psquare's mansion in atlanta! I was bitter not because I'm a hater but, they could have used the money on something better than the mansion, I remember them complaining of Sound city not playing their songs, I said to myself, if psquare is visionary, they could have invested in entertainment media and build a dynasty, that will forever remain a legacy... They have the financial muscle to be more influential than sound city, hiptv etc, but they are not even looking at that... most of the musicians from enugu to lagos are not seeing the opportunity to replicate what they see in lagos in enugu.. this would have helped the local artists in standing out, earning a living with out going to lagos...

Also lagos ibadan media gang, do not see our region as part of nigeria, their reportage and portrayal of our region seem to be We (nigeria) against them (us, alaigbo). They report only bad or gory activities of our region. For instance, the nation or punch, can only have a headline from southeast when it involves a crime,I remember one Emmanuel obe of The nation, the only thing he reports from SE is always crime, Nd gory activities, they continually flash these things to create a very bad image and impression on SE, I remember how this people took the okija saga, I remember how they did the otokoto, and kidnapping.. Even up till now, they still make it looks as if kidnapping still the bane why militants are in ND, while they will be saying that SW is relatively peaceful. Most of us do not know that kidnapping is so rampant in SW now, in ogun state the rate is daily, the bank robbery is very high!! Since 2007 till today, Awka has not witnessed high way robbery or bank robbery, I don't know about others, but I tell you, bank robbery is very rampant in SW now, kidnapping is thriving as I type now, but their media would rather deflect the attentions to what they feel that is important,

Can CNN be reporting a favourable news of atlanta while it portrays Newyork bad? The answer is no! CNN can not do that, because everywhere belongs to one country America! In addition to what I have listed, they use their media to shield things that benefit us igbo, and torchlight on things that are injuries to our image, I would elaborate more.. etc...

Number 2... There is something I want to tell people like cc Afam4eva, abagworo, ezeagu etc
umunnem, nation hood building isn't being sincere to your own detriment! look at it this way, have you ever seen hausa man, coming out to the public domain to castigate their people in the name of being honest? have you ever seen a German coming out to castigate Hitler and their people in the name of being sincere? infact mention one tribe where people publicly come out and condemn their people on the pages of newspapers or national tv in the name criticism? How many times have you seen a fulani man come out and condemn their people's atrocities?? The only people that play this holierthanthou are Ndigbo

let me tell you, nation building is a selfish adventure! that's what america is doing. they protect their country and their culture only! They careless about yours, I want every sensible igbo man to stop castigating our people no matter what!! It doesn't apply to our leaders like T.A orji!!! No never, we must shred them into pieces, but do not insult the igbo nation in the name of criticism. It will never make you a saint among the " devilish " people you rightly belong to.. phrases like "I like you because you because you do not behave like your people " is deceitful , it's just like saying that I like you but I hate your family!
Think about Isreal, Germany, Japan, Russia etc, do they castigate their people to impress America?
I was watching burkinafaso unrest, I saw youths chanting freedom freedom freedom! One said they are ready to die for their country! Menn I was moved, I became emotional, because, I know that I can never say the same thing for nigeria! Can any of you here die for nigeria? I need a country where I will feel among, that belongs to me,and I can die for in all sense, I'm from anambra state, I love that state like kilode!! I can do anything for the state, but not for nigeria.. I do not have anywhere in my heart where nigeria is situated, it has never been, it will never be! Since 2008...
So I want you all to have a rethink, our problem is mostly in our mindset! We believe that one must travel to make it, we have believed that Abuja and lagos are the place to be, for someone to make it..
But a critical look at this is not true... we must protect our future and our nation....

cjrane:



Vickjames, I ordinarily respect your views. But your arguement here is like educating Saudi Arabia about the disadvantages of having a desert to a fertile rainforest Or telling Germany the importance of oil, knowing they don't have that resource.

To what effect is such arguement if nothing can be done to change it? You can suggest how to encourage friendly alliance to assure Alwa Ibom that we shall use their Ibaka port if they build it. All those lake ideas and Suez Canal are just academic exercise

We cannot trust akwa ibom with anything. I know they fought with us in Biafran war we cannot base our economic strength in their shores. When the time comes, we will be at their mercy. We can only do what we can to make us self-dependent. Huge amount of money will be accrued from having a seaport there. We should stop comparing ourselves with these countries, it won't help. We should do what we can do manage this project, its the future if I must say. We need for once to be in control of everything that happens in our land. See what Lagos is doing to our businessmen, its not funny. We need to self-reliant. Airports cannot solve our problem neither the sea.

This is a research I have painstakingly undertaken to come to this conclusion. We need to do what we can to get what we need.

Calabar and other seaports apart from Lagos do not have the kind people like the igbos. Igbos will make judicious use its seaport if we have one.

Please tell me one thing igbos have and benefits them they ignored.

asha80:
simple...that is why I have not bothered contributing to the discourse..i mean isn't it obvious that big ocean liners that birth in apapa Lagos can only birth in a deep sea area of which that ibaka or is it ibeno axis csn accommodate? Even ph and warri cant seem to do that because they need to constantly dredged..likewise calabar...obuaku I dare say will probably be for large barges and would probably need constant dredging for ocean liners

I got an info from someone and he told me it is very possible. This person is trusted and has his hand on infos in Abia state government. There's a confluence in the east called the blue-river. This confluence river is quite deep and when dredged further, it will be able to accommodate ships. I am not say our governors should do it, if we can do it in partnership with the chinese, I'm telling you, we will go far. Moreover, this confluence river is closer to the sea than the 50 and 45mile cross river and portharcourt seaports.

This is a matter of opening our region and let substantial activity run through it. We will be able to connect major sea-faring countries with this attempt thereby opening more markets for us. This is pure business and empowerment.

VickJames:


I got an info from someone and he told me it is very possible. This person is trusted and has his hand on infos in Abia state government. There's a confluence in the east called the blue-river. This confluence river is quite deep and when dredged further, it will be able to accommodate ships. I am not say our governors should do it, if we can do it in partnership with the chinese, I'm telling you, we will go far. Moreover, this confluence river is closer to the sea than the 50 and 45mile cross river and portharcourt seaports.

This is a matter of opening our region and let substantial activity run through it. We will be able to connect major sea-faring countries with this attempt thereby opening more markets for us. This is pure business and empowerment.

you said 'when dredged further'? Isn't that supposed to mean constant dredging would have to be done? Or is it going to be done once? Remember the talk here is ocean liners and not large barges

@patrick89 thanks for laying this undiluted truth at the feet of our brothers.infact i have never commented
here but after reading ur comment i just could'nt resist.
our people are just to fast to castigate our leaders both here and in the real world on issues they usually know
little or nothing about.i'm not in any way suggesting that we look the other way when our people fumble but rather to be
objective.
with all the problems aregbe of osun is going thru i'm yet to see his people heap insults on him the same way we did
to T A ORJI of abia state on this forum.
i had an argument with a brother on the role Okonjo Iweala played in jonathans regime.all he did was regurgitate the same
lies and propaganda begin peddled by her enemies.they accuse jonathans regime of begin the most corrupt,but i ask was there
ever an time in the history of this country that nigeria was not corrupt.rite from the regime of babangida till date.our people do not know that they are indirectly shooting themselves in the foot when they equally join in insulting that regime.why u may ask?because according to jona's
opponenets his government was larglely igbo dominated which by the way is a big lie.
please my brothers na eche onwe unu nche.

patrick89:
My own case here are two major important submissions!!!!

Number one ... I want to urge every igbo business man to consider building fourth estate!! I have been hammering on this for soooo long... since 2011!!!!!!
we have a lot to showcase on the media to the world!! and we also have capable young men and women... that can do these jobs. I was so bitter when I saw psquare's mansion in atlanta! I was bitter not because I'm a hater but, they could have used the money on something better than the mansion, I remember them complaining of Sound city not playing their songs, I said to myself, if psquare is visionary, they could have invested in entertainment media and build a dynasty, that will forever remain a legacy... They have the financial muscle to be more influential than sound city, hiptv etc, but they are not even looking at that... most of the musicians from enugu to lagos are not seeing the opportunity to replicate what they see in lagos in enugu.. this would have helped the local artists in standing out, earning a living with out going to lagos...

Also lagos ibadan media gang, do not see our region as part of nigeria, their reportage and portrayal of our region seem to be We (nigeria) against them (us, alaigbo). They report only bad or gory activities of our region. For instance, the nation or punch, can only have a headline from southeast when it involves a crime,I remember one Emmanuel obe of The nation, the only thing he reports from SE is always crime, Nd gory activities, they continually flash these things to create a very bad image and impression on SE, I remember how this people took the okija saga, I remember how they did the otokoto, and kidnapping.. Even up till now, they still make it looks as if kidnapping still the bane why militants are in ND, while they will be saying that SW is relatively peaceful. Most of us do not know that kidnapping is so rampant in SW now, in ogun state the rate is daily, the bank robbery is very high!! Since 2007 till today, Awka has not witnessed high way robbery or bank robbery, I don't know about others, but I tell you, bank robbery is very rampant in SW now, kidnapping is thriving as I type now, but their media would rather deflect the attentions to what they feel that is important,

Can CNN be reporting a favourable news of atlanta while it portrays Newyork bad? The answer is no! CNN can not do that, because everywhere belongs to one country America! In addition to what I have listed, they use their media to shield things that benefit us igbo, and torchlight on things that are injuries to our image, I would elaborate more.. etc...

Number 2... There is something I want to tell people like cc Afam4eva, abagworo, ezeagu etc
umunnem, nation hood building isn't being sincere to your own detriment! look at it this way, have you ever seen hausa man, coming out to the public domain to castigate their people in the name of being honest? have you ever seen a German coming out to castigate Hitler and their people in the name of being sincere? infact mention one tribe where people publicly come out and condemn their people on the pages of newspapers or national tv in the name criticism? How many times have you seen a fulani man come out and condemn their people's atrocities?? The only people that play this holierthanthou are Ndigbo

let me tell you, nation building is a selfish adventure! that's what america is doing. they protect their country and their culture only! They careless about yours, I want every sensible igbo man to stop castigating our people no matter what!! It doesn't apply to our leaders like T.A orji!!! No never, we must shred them into pieces, but do not insult the igbo nation in the name of criticism. It will never make you a saint among the " devilish " people you rightly belong to.. phrases like "I like you because you because you do not behave like your people " is deceitful , it's just like saying that I like you but I hate your family!
Think about Isreal, Germany, Japan, Russia etc, do they castigate their people to impress America?
I was watching burkinafaso unrest, I saw youths chanting freedom freedom freedom! One said they are ready to die for their country! Menn I was moved, I became emotional, because, I know that I can never say the same thing for nigeria! Can any of you here die for nigeria? I need a country where I will feel among, that belongs to me,and I can die for in all sense, I'm from anambra state, I love that state like kilode!! I can do anything for the state, but not for nigeria.. I do not have anywhere in my heart where nigeria is situated, it has never been, it will never be! Since 2008...
So I want you all to have a rethink, our problem is mostly in our mindset! We believe that one must travel to make it, we have believed that Abuja and lagos are the place to be, for someone to make it..
But a critical look at this is not true... we must protect our future and our nation....

Your points are well noted.It was recently that i noted the obvious bias in media coverage of the various parts of Nigeria. Have you ever imagined what the coverage will be like if a madly inventive and industrial colossus like Aba,a thriving hotbed of entrepreneurship and commercial hub like Anambra and the endless sprawl of mansions and real estate that dot all the Igbo cities-from Asaba to Umuahia are all located in either Yorubaland or up north? I tell you what? The kind of propaganda and media coverage it will receive,you will think they God just replanted another garden of Eden! Nairaland is an eye opener because through threads like this,the Enugu and Imo threads also,the beauty and intimidating potentials of Igboland were laid bare. I still have a couple of my Idoma friends who view the houses and living conditions of those living in the east via these threads and they are still awestruck as i type this. The indegenization decree which saw the Yoruba elites and their jihadists counterparts took over the critical sectors of this nation gave them a historical opportunity to corner the media(also) which is the biggest selling point in their unbridled quest to deception and hypocrisy,of course facilitated by a docile and intellectually challenged mob.
Igbos have the informal sector of Nigeria in their grip but the role of a vibrant media in tribal advancement in a mafia country like Nigeria cannot be over-emphasized. I trust my people and know that the moment we focus our radar on that sector,it is good as given.The time is now! It took Tinubu's media clout and the financial muscle of the northern oligarchs to foist an artifact like PMB on modern Nigeria.Sadly,the results are already pinching on both the supporters and opposition! #sad#
On your second point.Part of my pride as an Igbo man is our penchant to openly abhor and speak out against evil and any form of act that impede progress.We also do not spare the villains among us (T.A Orji,Rochas,Mbadiniju,Joe Igbokwe and most recently Ngige and Chimaroke come to mind).
The attitude of some of our brethren who castigate and cast negative aspersion on the entire Igbo race are all fallout of the long years of media profiling and stereotyping perpetuated by the same Lagos Ibadan media mafia which even preceded the civil war but took a new dimension of demonization since after the war. The usual wishy washy cliches such as "Igbos are not united',Igbos are avaricious",Igbos don't love themselves",Igbos are not politically shrewd" etc are all profiling championed all the while which has not only been implanted into many consciousness but has seem assumed the character of truth and reality. Only very savvy Igbos debunk and trash them out with counter facts.Sadly,some of our elites and highly educated brethren are afflicted with this bug as seen on this thread and other media forums. Don't stop the gospel.Time to think,dream,talk and develop home has come. Good morning!

Home, sweet home.

patrick89:
My own case here are two major important submissions!!!!

Number one ... I want to urge every igbo business man to consider building fourth estate!! I have been hammering on this for soooo long... since 2011!!!!!!
we have a lot to showcase on the media to the world!! and we also have capable young men and women... that can do these jobs. I was so bitter when I saw psquare's mansion in atlanta! I was bitter not because I'm a hater but, they could have used the money on something better than the mansion, I remember them complaining of Sound city not playing their songs, I said to myself, if psquare is visionary, they could have invested in entertainment media and build a dynasty, that will forever remain a legacy... They have the financial muscle to be more influential than sound city, hiptv etc, but they are not even looking at that... most of the musicians from enugu to lagos are not seeing the opportunity to replicate what they see in lagos in enugu.. this would have helped the local artists in standing out, earning a living with out going to lagos...

Also lagos ibadan media gang, do not see our region as part of nigeria, their reportage and portrayal of our region seem to be We (nigeria) against them (us, alaigbo). They report only bad or gory activities of our region. For instance, the nation or punch, can only have a headline from southeast when it involves a crime,I remember one Emmanuel obe of The nation, the only thing he reports from SE is always crime, Nd gory activities, they continually flash these things to create a very bad image and impression on SE, I remember how this people took the okija saga, I remember how they did the otokoto, and kidnapping.. Even up till now, they still make it looks as if kidnapping still the bane why militants are in ND, while they will be saying that SW is relatively peaceful. Most of us do not know that kidnapping is so rampant in SW now, in ogun state the rate is daily, the bank robbery is very high!! Since 2007 till today, Awka has not witnessed high way robbery or bank robbery, I don't know about others, but I tell you, bank robbery is very rampant in SW now, kidnapping is thriving as I type now, but their media would rather deflect the attentions to what they feel that is important,

Can CNN be reporting a favourable news of atlanta while it portrays Newyork bad? The answer is no! CNN can not do that, because everywhere belongs to one country America! In addition to what I have listed, they use their media to shield things that benefit us igbo, and torchlight on things that are injuries to our image, I would elaborate more.. etc...

Number 2... There is something I want to tell people like cc Afam4eva, abagworo, ezeagu etc
umunnem, nation hood building isn't being sincere to your own detriment! look at it this way, have you ever seen hausa man, coming out to the public domain to castigate their people in the name of being honest? have you ever seen a German coming out to castigate Hitler and their people in the name of being sincere? infact mention one tribe where people publicly come out and condemn their people on the pages of newspapers or national tv in the name criticism? How many times have you seen a fulani man come out and condemn their people's atrocities?? The only people that play this holierthanthou are Ndigbo

let me tell you, nation building is a selfish adventure! that's what america is doing. they protect their country and their culture only! They careless about yours, I want every sensible igbo man to stop castigating our people no matter what!! It doesn't apply to our leaders like T.A orji!!! No never, we must shred them into pieces, but do not insult the igbo nation in the name of criticism. It will never make you a saint among the " devilish " people you rightly belong to.. phrases like "I like you because you because you do not behave like your people " is deceitful , it's just like saying that I like you but I hate your family!
Think about Isreal, Germany, Japan, Russia etc, do they castigate their people to impress America?
I was watching burkinafaso unrest, I saw youths chanting freedom freedom freedom! One said they are ready to die for their country! Menn I was moved, I became emotional, because, I know that I can never say the same thing for nigeria! Can any of you here die for nigeria? I need a country where I will feel among, that belongs to me,and I can die for in all sense, I'm from anambra state, I love that state like kilode!! I can do anything for the state, but not for nigeria.. I do not have anywhere in my heart where nigeria is situated, it has never been, it will never be! Since 2008...
So I want you all to have a rethink, our problem is mostly in our mindset! We believe that one must travel to make it, we have believed that Abuja and lagos are the place to be, for someone to make it..
But a critical look at this is not true... we must protect our future and our nation....

I forgot to note on the third view! I totally concur with you when you said that "Nation building is a selfish venture"! Absolutely correct! If only people know the depth of crimes that take place in New York daily and the corruption in the White House!!! Yet these inanities are either under-reported and retained only in the local media even as the government continues to invest heavily in security. South Africa is the rape capital of the world yet that hardly make headline news instead what you will see is their sensational appellation "Rainbow Nation" to further exhibit their beauty and diversity.No one will tell you that behind the glittering streets of Sandton and Cape Town are some of the worst cases of segregation and oppression known to man. The German government is still embarrassed by the Holocaust hence will never publicly discuss it even as they pay reparation to Israel until tomorrow. Much of the fresh water that sustain Israeli families is extracted from Golan Heights which is Palestinian territory which Israel can never relinquish no matter what but it was hardly mentioned in the negotiations.The list goes on and on.I will forever speak against evil but will always be guided by the circumstances as depicted above.

Good discussions going on here.... my little observation why Igbos don't invest in the east is mainly because there they see untapped opportunities in the Northern part of the country and every good business person will always be attracted to such area.
They always make a huge profit in all those areas compare to eastern part where competition is very much high.
I can't blame them all but I'm blaming them out rightly for investing their core business in the far north not minding what their parents went through during the Civil War.
My advice is that they should start bringing back quarter of their business down to east gradually because the Northerners you saw as mugus yesterday are now wising up today.

spyder880:
Home, sweet home.

Bros no vex o! Is this same area off Enugu-PH expressway you told me about 2 weeks ago?
Whats the name of this street and while the existing houses are all classy,iam actually looking beyond to another 5 years when i know every single space in that area will be occupied. Let them just mark the major and adjoining streets,fix street lights and ensure each property maintain a healthy lawn with sidewalks of course and u will have yourself Beverly Hills right in the coal city.Please feed us with more pictures while you answer my questions.
Regards!

Afam4eva:

You have a point but these things are easier said than done. Have you asked yourself why the Yorubas and Hausas don't have the same problems Igbos have as far as investing at home is concerned? Why do we have that problem? It's simple. Our development was altered as a result of the civil war. Yes, our people have recovered in terms of pursuing their dreams but the problem is that most of these people did not do it in Igboland. They did it in Lagos, Abuja, Port-hacourt, Kano, US, UK and other parts of the world and some of them came back to Igboland to build houses and that is what has even made Igboland to develop to the level that it is now. There's still a problem though. We have to convince the Igbo intelligentsia who live in these places to return home but we have to be practical in our approach. How will you tell a Zinox who manufactures computers to leave Lagos(the commercial capital of Nigeria and the place where most of his computers will be sold) or Abuja to move to Enugu or Owerri. The question he will ask you is, what can Enugu and Owerri offer. Let's not forget that he is a business man and not necessarily a philantropist and as such the thinks about the business implication of his company before anything else. The best he can do is to setup Afrihub in Universities in Igboland which he has done. Now, to be practical, the onus rests on the shoulders of the Governors of the 5 eastern states to make their states business friendly by providing constant electricity, access roads, seaports and airports to make it attractive to Igbos first and foremost before anyone else. If Igboland was that attractive, we would have seen non Igbos investing there.

Yes I know they are not easy but this is the only way we can reduce hatred and jealousy of our covetous neighbours who wish nothing on us but disasters and calamities.


The reason why it seems difficult is that we have put ourselves in a very tight corner, if NECO could maintain its headquarters in Minna and still be a national player, why didn't Igbos learn to keep their investments at home no matter the odds against them.

Igbos think that without you being in HD in Lagos you can't make it. Look at UnityBank with their funny office in Lagos but gigantic edifice in Kano telling you they know what they are doing. Atiku opened his Univ and company in Adamawa State

For you to say Igboland is developed with money realized by outsider is very mischievous and insulting to the hardworking Igbos in igboland.

achi4u:
Good discussions going on here.... my little observation why Igbos don't invest in the east is mainly because there they see untapped opportunities in the Northern part of the country and every good business person will always be attracted to such area.
They always make a huge profit in all those areas compare to eastern part where competition is very much high.
I can't blame them all but I'm blaming them out rightly for investing their core business in the far north not minding what their parents went through during the Civil War.
My advice is that they should start bringing back quarter of their business down to east gradually because the Northerners you saw as mugus yesterday are now wising up today.

How do you mean Igbos don't invest in East

Sttop falling for their bullying, there more Igbo investment in Igboland than outside Igboland, this fact unless you start mentioning financial institutions and other services but every other thing igbos in East own them