amosy007: @onatisi
yeah poverty played 10% role
buh 90% is ideology.. Poverty alone cannot make u blow urself up with others...

Abdumutallab is a son of one of d richest nigerian.. Living in 3million pounds mansion and yet he wants to blow himself and others up..

Dubai is tourism country... Tourism is one of the major source of income.. Their government wnt allow break down of law as a result of extremism.. Nobody will wana travel to a country that the security of life is not guaranteed

and abt recruiting frm africa..
Thats becoz majority of africans have slave mentality.. Thats why they will condemn anytin that belongs to them (their heritage) to embrace western and arab things..

onatisi:

i think nigeria own is more political , initially when boko haram started they said they will be attacking only government units or targets and that they wanted to avenge the killing of their leader, all of a sudden they changed their reasons to that of Islamic separate state that wasn't their initially message according to them, i have been wondering who brought that one in , it is my believe that we are dealing with not just only one group and that another group is pursuing another agenda alongside that of boko haram

amosy007:
agreed!

Buh they have many sympathizers in the north thats why they are always successful when they carry out their violence act...

I wnt say all muslims are terrorists .. We have reasonable muslims in the south..
Buh it wnt change the fact that 95% of terrorism are carried out by muslim

BetaThings:

So the kidnappers that took Abia hostage had many sympathisers in the state. Right?
I can see that the drug dealers in Mexico that is terrorising the country has a lot of sympathisers

amosy007:
it might be or was political b4.. Buh what we have now is nothing buh religion terrorist organisation...it has grown far beyond politics.. Even d politicians that might have created the monster cannot tame it anymore

Remember that in a video that imam shekau sent after this day bombing.. He was appealing to nigerians to stop calling them boko haram, that they are not boko haram buh organisation that is propagating jihad in nigeria..
And he gave their new name (will google d name and post it later)..
So saying its politics is like going back to stone age.. Its a religious organisation and nothin more except we wana use sentiment to shy away frm the truth

amosy007:
it might be or was political b4.. Buh what we have now is nothing buh religion terrorist organisation...it has grown far beyond politics.. Even d politicians that might have created the monster cannot tame it anymore

Remember that in a video that imam shekau sent after this day bombing.. He was appealing to nigerians to stop calling them boko haram, that they are not boko haram buh organisation that is propagating jihad in nigeria..
And he gave their new name (will google d name and post it later)..
So saying its politics is like going back to stone age.. Its a religious organisation and nothin more except we wana use sentiment to shy away frm the truth

str8_talk: D Northern leaders(past and present) shld c wat damage dey hv done to dia pple afta being in charge of dis country 4 over 35yrs.
And d most annoying thing here is d clamour by d Northern Governors for Special Security Fund for d North to fight d BH insurgency. Can dey pls tell Nigerians wat have dey been doing wt d mthly security vote dey collect?
Itz obvious dat until dis craze of dashing out monies dat cannot b accounted for to Governors and even 2 d President stops and excessive powers of d executive curtailed,Nigeria will continue to remain a big joke.

BetaThings:

So does Shekau make sense to you? What he is after is impracticable
What religion? What jihad? Must he kill all muslims who disagree with him (and who are in the majority) to prove to you that his own religion is different and without precedent in Islam
anybody can claim to be fighting jihad. Afterall an american went to Afghanistan with a private mission to arrest the leader of the Taliban

The lady that went to UI mosque during Jumuah service and started shouting "Accept Jesus" to Muslims who were praying, what do you think she was doing?
She was "fishing for souls" and "preaching the word of God". Or was she not? So how is her understanding different from Shekau's or Rev King's?

onatisi:
i think u got it right, the group has metamorphosed into a extremist group monster and difficult to tame , which brings me back to my reasoning and idea which is most of the northerners dont support them but the fear of boko haram seems to be the beginning of wisdom in the north

Bélla3: msteeew. Hieght of stupidity! The young woman shud'a been restraind nt killed!
Rev. King neva forced any1 2 come 2 hiz church (dat dosnt justify hiz action). Bt they are in no way same wit the shekau guy.
@topic
kudos to the youths. We need more muslims and non muslims like dat

BetaThings:

So does Shekau make sense to you? What he is after is impracticable
What religion? What jihad? Must he kill all muslims who disagree with him (and who are in the majority) to prove to you that his own religion is different and without precedent in Islam
anybody can claim to be fighting jihad. Afterall an american went to Afghanistan with a private mission to arrest the leader of the Taliban

The lady that went to UI mosque during Jumuah service and started shouting "Accept Jesus" to Muslims who were praying, what do you think she was doing?
She was "fishing for souls" and "preaching the word of God". Or was she not? So how is her understanding different from Shekau's or Rev King's?

BetaThings:
Jonathan was not able to tame MEND. Afterall his house was bombed
And he could not go to Maiduguri
Obasanjo went and his host was killed within 48 hours and the culprits are at large
When Ojo Maduekwe encouraged Nigerians to ride bicycles, but was knocked down, everybody learnt their lesson
With Boko Haram killing both the low and the high, how many people will be bold enough to confront them?

The history of WWI tells us that it never makes sense to confront a gun with bare hands
And with war. A suicide bomber only objective is to kill many. He does not mind dying

The way Christians egg Muslims on, charging us to do more and try to play us like pawns in their chess game, one is left with the impression that the objective is just to kill off all muslims (both the Boko Haram members and the muslims that oppose BH)

amosy007:

okay i will ask u....is imam shekau a muslim or not? how come we have many terrorist organizations that link themselves with islam? if he is not a muslim ..what are the real muslims doing to stop imam shekau from given islam a bad name? why and how does he get many foot solders

the lady that went to jumah service ...did she go there with a bomb? did the Christians condemns the act or not?
answe am waiting?

amosy007:

so Mend is forcing people into Christianity now abi? and jonathan house that they bomb is for the glory of Christ?

Ibrahim mr fish: And 2moro people will be saying dat,bokoharam don't kill muslim.Last time i check districk head is a muslim always,u never hear a christain bearing d name hakimi,and it is d same muslim dat u ppl claime support bokoharan,dat stop dis attack.I hope u ppl now get d pic on d situation in d nroth.

macjive01:

most xtains in kaduna are muslim converts

amosy007: ^^
dude! How many times do i have to tell u to go and learn how to write with normal text and proper english in public forum?

Da-unashamed:

you sound alot like my dog,it makes to much noise that doesn't make sense.

lacasa:

what Ɣou αve written here is nothing but foolish "hate speech".

Xtianity was spread Ђδω? - was it not by the same sword

Wat was the knight templar n wat was his crusades abt?

Ɣou said xtianity is spreading, where?

Open Ūя̲̅ wikipedia n see, islam is one of the biggest, (if not the biggest) n fastest spreading religion on earth with most rapid no of converts, mostly xtians. Google it.

Every religion has certain bad eeggs amongst them †ђat deviate one way or the other from the true teachings of the relogion.

Hitler, the lord's army in uganda, anderss brievik (norway terrorist), the kkk in american, adolf hitler etc are those terroristd throughout history †ђat came out of xtianity.

But was christianity said ϯo be bad or were xtians being seen all as terrorists cos of a few †ђat deviated from the right path

​ so​, wat r u trying ϯo do with Ūя̲̅ long write-up here?

It wnt work!.

Islam is bigger than any propaganda, ​ so​ Ūя̲̅ mission here is futile.

Infact, let me say it †ђat Bokoharam is nt even religious bt a front for political n selfissh gains.

The earlier u get it into Ūя̲̅ thick skull the beetter for u

lacasa:

what Ɣou αve written here is nothing but foolish "hate speech".

Xtianity was spread Ђδω? - was it not by the same sword

Wat was the knight templar n wat was his crusades abt?

Ɣou said xtianity is spreading, where?

Open Ūя̲̅ wikipedia n see, islam is one of the biggest, (if not the biggest) n fastest spreading religion on earth with most rapid no of converts, mostly xtians. Google it.

Every religion has certain bad eeggs amongst them †ђat deviate one way or the other from the true teachings of the relogion.

Hitler, the lord's army in uganda, anderss brievik (norway terrorist), the kkk in american, adolf hitler etc are those terroristd throughout history †ђat came out of xtianity.

But was christianity said ϯo be bad or were xtians being seen all as terrorists cos of a few †ђat deviated from the right path

​ so​, wat r u trying ϯo do with Ūя̲̅ long write-up here?

It wnt work!.

Islam is bigger than any propaganda, ​ so​ Ūя̲̅ mission here is futile.

Infact, let me say it †ђat Bokoharam is nt even religious bt a front for political n selfissh gains.

The earlier u get it into Ūя̲̅ thick skull the beetter for u

amosy007: ^^
dude! How many times do i have to tell u to go and learn how to write with normal text and proper english in public forum?

BetaThings:
There is nothing spetacular about your questions
Shekau calls himself a muslim. What he is doing is clearly haraam. It is difficult to just declare anyone a kaffir. You may not like this. But it is the same procedure required to pass fatawa and declare jihad. Were this not so anyone can just start a jihad
But clearly Shekau is doing things that outside the rules of Islam. He kills indiscriminately. He kills fellow muslims, innocents, children, the aged and women. Even in a lawful jihad you cannot kill these people

There are many christian terrorists too. Check Hutaree, LRA, IRA etc
There would have been more if more christian countries are occupied
The Taliban was trained and financed by the Americans when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan
Same American later confronted some of these guys when they invaded Iraq
Note that America invaded Iraq and toppled the government. The people who resisted were called insurgents
Same America and Britain encouraged Charles De Gaulle to resist when the German invaded France and toppled the French government. But De Gaulle was called resistance. The occupying Germans called them traitors and saboteurs

The first thing to do is to ensure that he does not have too many foot soldiers. This is by telling potential recruits that Shekau's actions are deeds of hellfire
Muslims who know them should report them and resist them where they can. The Kaduna incident is an example
It may appear that he has foot soldiers but there are a lot of unemployed youths. They are impressionable and susceptible to brainwashing. Note that the boy who went to that mosque was even pushed
However do you think he has up to 10,000 people?

It does not matter if the lady went to the mosque with a bomb or not. She heard about fishing for souls and misunderstood it. I can nearly guess she would have been with Shekau on "Jihad" were she a muslim

Several muslim leaders have condemned Shekau. Sheik Jafar was killed because he publicly denounced Boko Haram even when Mohammed Yusuf was alive.

BetaThings:
Why is it so difficult to discuss with you guys?
MEND was SS movement, agitating for the rights of SS
Jonathan, the highest ranking govt official from SS was not able to tame them

Why do we expect Muslims who are not in government (and who are even being attacked by Boko Haram) to tame Boko Haram

Is this not clear enough from my post?
And has any muslim rejoiced whenever BH killed anyone including christians

I saw a post on NL today where a guy said that he is a christian and his dad is a muslim
Would his dad rejoice when BH goes to attack a church. His son might be there afterall. Is the dad closer to BH than to his son?

Let us try to be objective. If all muslims supported BH, did you think you could live peacefully in the south? Did you think more would not have been caught?

lacasa:

R u a homo?

Silence ain't working in Ūя̲̅ case(being a fool dat u are), ​ so​ u definitely must be a homo.

Sorry "dude", i'm not interested

akthedream:
Why do u always
complain about people's
text?Does it mean none
of the ''big men'' in ur
village has a
Blackberry?..Please stop
messing urself up here.