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OasisX:


..... Now you're confused. Is it Sahih Bukhari you're quoting or what?

You don't know Muhammad's last sermon? This is serious. And you're a Muslim?

iamoyindamola:
Lmao you mentioned us remember
Tell otem to give you more knowledge so you can fight back
You failed this time

I don post the haadith you seek. Read and don't waste my time with nonsense.

I'm sure you'll reply me with a new post containing Otem's name again. Keep crying about him daily.

Wa sunkun taya

OasisX:


[font=serif]EOD..... you fail extraordinarily woefully!!!



I am not trolling when I said you need to seek more knowledge. Read beyond Book of a human being like you.

I don't have time for your nonsense. You obviously need to spend more time studying your religion.

Here is the farewell sermon of your prophet: https://www.iium.edu.my/deed/articles/thelastsermon.html#:~:text=I%20am%20gone.%22-,%22O%20People!,you%20will%20never%20go%20astray.%22

iamoyindamola:
Give me Otem whatsapp number or tictok account

You're just confused. Keep trolling me with Otem. Keep pouring water into an empty basket.

When you're tired, you'll find something useful to do with your time.

iamoyindamola:
As usual you resort to insult when you have nothing upstair

Otem be praised

Keep praising and worshipping a guy like yourself now. It's what ignorant people do.

Do so daily. No one cares. Just don't mention me.

If you don't have anything to say, don't mention me. The haadith you seek are up there, ignorant mofo.

These ones na fake Muslims. Zero knowledge and creed, yet calling themselves Muslims. Lols

iamoyindamola:
I know right, fenibeso will get more followers before one otem that is confusing itself

You don't know he's many followers (fans) on Nairaland already. You're so ignorant.

People follow him for his fascinating stories and histories. Nothing more, nothing less.

iamoyindamola:
Ebukacute have also given his life to otem
He's born against

He can message Otem and post his response here. Lols. That's if Otem sef go reply.

Folly.

OasisX:


Let me ask you one question, you can use google just in case. What did prophet Muhammad say he is leaving behind for the Muslim Ummah in Sahih Bukhari?

Qur'an and Sunnah. I don't need to use Google. I no be JJC for Islam like you. Why the question though because you didn't follow that injunction rejecting authentic haadith I posted here?

iamoyindamola:
Alaye drop verses or quit shalaye

You must be blind. Ode.

OasisX:


Oga Otem is your Lord and Saviour. You're worshipping him day and night, stop dey disguise.

Mode of worship Otem is something not clear to you yet, but apparently you're a true Worshipper of him.

Guess you still get e-copy of OtèmAtum Holy Book? What did it say about blasphemy?

EL O EL..........

Proof? Provide your proof for this statement.

I know you can't find the proof anywhere because it's a lie from a known liar. I've no lord or master and OtemAtum himself knows.

Try another one. This one na big L.

Dem dey use diversionary tactic and lies to cover up the barbaric practice of their religion.

Stop mentioning me to cry.

iamoyindamola:
He is looking for ways to condemn Islam
Alaye they quote verse from book of otem

Tell me where I made mention of Otem's history book here at all.

Sahih Bukhari of your prophet is Otem's book. Lols.

Try harder. Someone saying religion makes people better: see a religionist lying in broad day light.

Millions of such people are in Nigeria that cheat, steal, kill, defraud others and still go to churches and mosques.

Nigeria is one of the most corrupt countries in the world yet Nigerians are so religious.

They can't do without crying about Otem daily. Ko kan aye

OasisX:


Your Delusion has been bursted and exposed, i understand your frustration bruh. You've been trying so hard to discredit both Religions but failing woefully.

You decide to focus on Islam, tag yourself an Apostate, yet you're walking freely on earth. If Islam preaches death penalty for apostasy, your head would have rotten on a spike by now.... LOL!

Oga.... tell your Lord, Otem, that you have failed woefully to get new Converts on this board. I should seek knowledge from Amoto94? Same person you're joyfully calling a Terrorist?.. LOL

Keep crying about Otem. If I ask you to provide a post where I ask people to join agnosticism specifically, I'm sure you can't.

Otem himself isn't even a agnostic. Your foolishness is really incurable and boundless.

Your daily cries about Otem is amusing. Keep it up.

iamoyindamola:
Where is the verse or Hadith?

Check my latest comment.

Amoto94:
Unfortunately I'm not a learned person, as Allah said, "Ask the people of knowledge if you don't know". I will direct him to the people of knowledge.

It's good you said this now. It'd be useful later. Attached is what your prophet said about killing of apostates. Millions of innocent lives have been lost due to those statements (verdict).

OasisX:


.... this Dude is overrated. He has overread tales by moonlight of Otem so much he assumes its a divine book.

Show us the proofs. Show us in the Qur'an where the penalties are spelled out.

Also show us where Holy Prophet ordered the Killing for Apostasy.

Everyday Otem. Lols. Who cares anyway? Keep crying Otem daily. Na curse

You want to see haadith where your prophet commanded that apostates should be killed? You're so ignorant and not worthy to be called a Muslim.

Ask Amoto94 to educate you about Islam before you speak about what you know nothing of. Dis one sef dey call himself a Muslim. Lols.

OasisX:


Which Sect do I belong? How are you so sure I follow Saudi Docrines or/and Muftis? You need to learn more bro.

Afrodoc2 may be of help not Otem this around. He reads and understands more about Islam than you - an Ex Muslim.

You may as well help with Qur’anic verses that support death penalty for blasphemy and apostasy.

I've your Qur'an and a number of authentic haadith in my book collections. Try harder.

I'm speaking from a position of knowledge and experience.

You keep crying about Otem everyday. It'd interest you to know that before meeting Otem here in 2018, I had been a freethinker.

Otem has his philosophy, and I have mine.

Stop being foolish. Is that even possible? Keep crying about Otem as if that has any effect on anything.

Here's an analogy that explains how the Sharia law that stipulates death penalty for blasphemy and apostasy is made:

Quran: Leaving Islam after having been a Muslim is a great sin which is rewarded with hell fire (no punishment specified while the convicted is on Earth)
Qur'an: Follow all what prophet Muhammad says and does because he doesn't do or say anything of his own accord except Allah commands it.
Muhammad's Sunnah: Kill apostates.
Sharia: Combining these parts of both Qur'an and Sunnah stipulates death penalty for trialed and convicted blasphemers and apostates.

As simple as A, B, C.

It's amusing watching Oasis and iamoyindamola pretending not to know Sharia laws that stipulate death penalty for apostasy and some forms of blasphemy are developed from both Qur'an and Sunnah, not only Qur'an.

Everyone, except those two, knows what holds in a Sharia nation or state when you're convicted of blasphemy or apostasy. We see it (death penalty) at play every time in Saudi, the home of Islam, and in other Sharia countries and states.

But then, those two Muslims, which are even infidels by the standards of Saudi or North, are more knowledgeable than the muftis of Saudi and their qadis that draft Sharia laws.

Some jokes tell themselves.

BlueRayDick:
Well, I don't know much about the Quran and what it says on issues like that sha..... But from the much I've read here today , it appears some of the things some adherents take to.heart are actually not commanded by the Quran like the case of blasphemy that was discussed earlier today.

Real Muslims follow both Qur'an and Muhammad's hadith or Sunnah (Muhammad's recorded deeds). Qur'an is silent on some issues like apostasy, but the haadith are very clear on them, with the punishment of death stated explicitly.

Sharia laws are developed from both Qur'an and Sunnah, not only Qur'an. And if you follow only Qur'an without following the Sunnah, you're not a real Muslim but a munafiq (a hypocrite) as stated in Qur'an, and Qur'an says such will enter hell-fire.

Anyone that reads Qur'an in English doesn't really understand Islam. If you understand Arabic, you understand the violent ways of the average northerner against so-called unbelievers is exactly what Qur'an preaches and commands.

For instance, Qur'an forbids Muslims to have friends from other faiths and fundamentalists don't make friends with Christians and the likes.

Qur'an regards unbelievers (Christians, freethinkers, Buddhists and co) as people like mere animals and criminals who are sub-human meant to roast in hell-fire and Muslims as the best of the humans.

But Muslims like to deceive others that people (some misguided Muslims) are the problem because those ones (the others and even many Yoruba Muslims) don't really understand Qur'an and Sunnah because they don't understand Arabic.

A lot of meaning is lost in translation to Arabic. And you don't interpret or try to understand the Qur'an without considering the circumstances where each of the verses was revealed to the Prophet.

That's why those that really understand Qur'an knows the Sunnah in and out.

And that's why ex-Muslims that understand Arabic and know these things vehemently criticize the religion on leaving the faith.

Personally, if my child wants to be religious, I'd prefer he stays clear of the toxic religion called Islam.

Christianity is still a bit better because it had been reformed. But then, I can't force even my kids to become an agnostic or follow a particular religion.

It's their choice but I'll educate them on the history of the popular religions and let them make their choice.

Islam is in need of serious reforms and the Qur'an is too archaic and harsh for the modern times, but who will reform a religion that considers Qur'an, the words of God (Allah), immutable?

Ellexy:
So if I become a Muslim I have to remain one forever else if I convert to another religion I'll be considered an apostate and can be killed for that.....

Which kind wahala be this.

Na so religion of peace be, especially if you live in a state under Sharia.

Messi vs Mbappe for the final and Morroco for the third place.

GloriousGbola:
Off the top of my head I think his 'crime' is apostasy.

And the sentence for that is death.

Yes, he was lucky he got 24 years even though the sentence was also extreme.

His criticism (blasphemy) of Muhammad alone on FB attracted death penalty being resident in a state under Sharia laws.

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A001:
Messi vs Modric. Only one winner.

Messi wins it. Deservedly so.

hopefulLandlord:
Mubarak Bala is in prison right now. he was sentenced to 24 years imprisonment by a Sharia court. he's an atheist

Death penalty isn't the only sentence. You don't know, according to Sharia laws, death penalty is one of the sentences of blasphemy?

You think it's against Sharia if he was sentenced to death? Don't just argue for the mere sake of it.

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Messi vs Modric. Only one winner.

MorataFC:
This is really bad
I just lost my Mother

My condolences.

"In his display of ignorance, the Oluwo, without oral, scientific or historical evidence, makes many laughable assertions, claiming that certain historical epochs were revealed to him in the spiritual realm.
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For instance, he said the Yoruba descended from Adam in the Garden of Eden, whereas the history of the Yoruba predated the creation story in the Garden of Eden.
...

Before Akanbi’s sudden flight of fancy, no authority anywhere in the world had ever traced Yoruba genealogy to the Garden of Eden, which may soon be translated into the Garden of Ede, near Iwo, whenever a pillar of smoke engulfs royal inspiration.
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Whenever the pillar of smoke inspires, names like Adamo, Yoruba word for Adam; and Oduduwa are defined to support baseless, false and speculative idiosyncrasies. In one of his videos, the Oluwo says Adamo means Eda Amo – a creature made from the red earth. How ridiculous! What does the Bible say Adam was created from? From salt and pepper? Oba Akanbi goes ahead to malign religious history by saying Adam was the father of the Yoruba. The authority and panache with which the Oluwo spews his unfounded history will shock a kindergarten class."

https://punchng.com/oluwo-and-the-glorification-of-ignorance-2-2/?amp

I don't know how Adam, Jesus, Muhammad are related to black people when the Muslims and the Christians ignorantly call these characters their forefathers, yet based on archeological evidence, Africa is the cradle or origin of humanity.

Anyone that doesn't support Sharia or the terrorist-apologist isn't well read. Lols. Poor attempt at manipulation.

Olowunl01:
Splitting the country won't solve this; I think it should be mandated upon the accused or defedant to decide under which law they want to be tried under...cos for my house as a kid we dey celebrate Ileya and Xmas all together, wouldn't change that for any reason.

I actually consider the Northern Moslems as fakes, cos it seems their own sharia laws only apply to their poor.

I think it would reduce it significantly. The problem can't be eradicated completely.

reccy:
Hhehe. Welcome sir. I've been anticipating you.

What do you have to say about it?

Nothing that I've not said before.