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Ballzproblem2:
Incredible

Keir Starmer is a borderline accomplice atp

Shegzdave:
I wouldn’t want to bring down drogba for Isak but Isak is doing good with goal ratio and the skills you just mention

He still has a long way to go. Let him join a big team and win laurels or lead a title charge first.

BlueRayDick:
So it is now about mentioning another player not named Isak right? Remember what led to this discussion was u dropping a video compilation trying to prove that there aren't strikers who are as skillful as Drogba was shown in the video clip.

That was the reason I mentioned Isak to show u that indeed there are strikers who score as much as Drogba did and still possess skills that u are trying to use to prop Drogba.

Talking about out and out strikers who are proven goal scorers, is Lewandoski as Efiggy ? Is Luiz Suarez a goal keeper?

All these talk about past players being the best thing after slice bread, it's just nostalgia at work and nothing else. There will always be players in the future that will play better than and break records of past players.

Na wa ohh. We are talking about present generation you dey mention Suarez and Lewandowski wey don dey pop since Nairaland start. Fear God nau. Why didn't you mention Benzema and RVP as well.

Isak does not have the big game pedigree to even be mentioned in the same breath with cats like Drogba just yet. Wtf has Isak done outside of score a few goals for Newcastle.

Which current African player don ball like Eto'o. Osimhen? Lookman, Salah or who? There will always be one of ones in every generation.

popizaino:
Look no further,Welbeck who use to be like man urinated 4th striker in 2013 is now the first man on Brighton's list.

At a point,man city,had Adebayor,Balotteli,Aguero,Dzeko as their strikers and all the strikers can comfortably lead the line alone,today if they don't use Haaland they would be back to improvising a winger as a manshift striker but i am to believe the quality of strikers/football isn't diminishing because the new ones happen to score more.

Lol. Where Welbeck wan see shirt where Berbatov, Tevez and Rooney dey?

I don't know why people just enjoy arguing nonsense.

Look at Tottenham, their starting 9 is Dominic Solanke

Liverpool have gone from Owen, Torres to Darwin Nunez

Let our stat merchants bring out goal ratio and show us how Solanke is better than Berbatov and Nunez better than Torres

Arsenal fan battling with Gabriel Jesus and Kai Havertz is in denial that quality of strikers have dipped. Wonders will never end

Capaldi:
Now its freekicks and taking corners lol. Your metrics are laughable.

Just small example of the technical edge he has over them. They can't do what he does, while he can do everything they can.

Superior header of the ball, can score with both feet, can provide dead balls and score from set pieces.

BlueRayDick:
The quality of strikers have dipped and the current strikers are doing far better numbers than the old school strikers did ? How?

Really? You brought 1 player who has a better goal ratio in a tiny sample size of league games as proof that current strikers are doing far better.

A player that is only playing in the league mind you

BlueRayDick:
U must show us one thing that is measurable that u feel the old players can do that the new players can’t . U tried to show skills using Drogba as a case study but that has been shut down immediately because there’s actually no skill shown in the video that is out of this world that some of the current players are not doing and scoring goals to back it up . Neyamr does all those tekkers and still scored loads of goals for club and country playing the attacking role .

Baba look for another thing and bring another set of video compilation . That Drogba own no fly

You named Isak. What are his exploits outside Newcastle, players that have literally done nothing for club and country. I didn't see Sweden at the last Euros. Why?

Name the so called strikers today bar Haaland and what they've done in elite Europe. What titles are they driving their teams to. Since you want measurables

Who are the out and out strikers leading and deciding titles for their teams in today's games. You dey call Isak and Ollie Watkins

Capaldi:
Those big chances missed for drogba is clearly a mistake. The fact you believed Drogba only missed 13 big chances in 8 seasons is amusing. Epl site is showing 1 big chances for Henry.

https://www.premierleague.com/players/1659/Thierry-Henry/stats

See me see trouble. Am I the one that posted the stats? Take it up with the person that did nau.

If you can find the stats and show it then do so.

Ballzproblem2:
they're more afraid of being labeled islamophobic than protecting their daughters ,weak men truly creates hard times.

Islamophobia is a gaslighting term. Anybody that uses that word is a professional gaslighter

Ballzproblem2:
Take your country back.

Them don accept visitor. Givers must always set limits cos takers don't have them.

The West is still playing PC games with these people. They will learn the hard way

I can't believe this is even a real argument.

My team the Nationalmannschaft has to pick between Nicklas Fullkrug, Kai Havertz and okete Karim Adeyemi with more speed than sense and you're telling me strikers have not fallen off.

You people should stop seeing piss and calling it rain. It's better to even attribute it to the ebb and flow of society or something abstract than to deny what we are seeing clearly

BlueRayDick:
It’s not about stat merchant. We all watched Drogba play ; at least right from when he got to Chelsea till he went to Galatasary .

You are the one who claimed he’s skillful and asked that we mention other skillful players around currently . When we mentioned skillful strikers , u turned back to start talking about goals .

Now I’m telling u that the same Isak u are painting as mediocre has a better goal per game ratio than Drogba . How do u want to measure that if u don’t check the goals scored and the number of games it took both players to score those goals ? Don’t even forget Isak is playing in a lesser quality team than one in which Drogba played and under a lesser quality manager when compared to the coaches Drogba played under .

It’s nostalgia that is making u think retired strikers are the best while the current strikers are no good

What's Rooney's goal per game ratio in the PL. We can also say Isak is better than him if that's what you want to argue.

You skillfully glossed over Isak missing far more big chances than Drogba.

And when we are talking about lesser quality are you factoring their playing style and who the team is built around?

Shey Newcastle get Lampard wey go dey follow you drag penalties and shot attempts?

Arsenal has gone from Henry to RVP to Havertz

Chelsea have gone from Drogba, Anelka to Jackson,

Liverpool have gone from Torres to Nunez

Germany have gone from Voller, Klinsmann, Klose to Fullkrug

Spain have gone from Raul, Villa to Morata and Oyarzabal

Holland have gone from Van Horseface, RVP to Wout Weghorst

Brazil have gone from Romario, R9 to (who be even their striker now? )

Italy went from Baggio, Vieri, Toni and Co to Moise Kean and Belloxxi.

Call it nostalgia all you want but the level of strikers has clearly dipped

BlueRayDick:
That’s why I asked u to go watch YouTube for Isak’s clips . These things u claim he’s no match for Drogha , check YouTube videos and see him doing exactly those things .

Isak dey score free kick? Ping corners and set pieces? If not then what do I want to see again?

As AA me and malaria used to be 5 and 6 but soon as I turned 15-16 everything just vanished and it's been that way since

BlueRayDick:
Baba go to YouTube and type Isak skills or Luis Diaz skills , u will see video compilation of those players doing all sorts of skills .

I watched the Drogba video u dropped and Drogba didn’t do anything spectacular that has not been seen before . Most of the things he did , a playful player like Neymar did over and over again: most people even criticized Neymar as being too playful for doing all that .

Diaz is not even a striker. He's supposed to be Mane's replacement. They play him at striker now because Nunez is so shyte (another example of the mediocre strikers I'm talking about)

Dribbles, crosses, dead ball and set piece abilities Isak can't hold a candle to Drogba

BlueRayDick:
What do u mean by Isak is not on Drogba’s level ?

Isak has a better goals per match ratio than Drogba . Isak has a better shooting accuracy when compared to Drogba’s and that is according to EPL official stats , not “Trust me bro , I no fit lie give you “ .

I think some of these hype we give retired players are just out of nostalgia and nothing else .

You stat merchants no go kill person.

Drogba that has statue at Emirates stadium that's who you're comparing to Isak.

Just look at the big chances missed alone that should tell you who was getting the better quality of chances in their respective teams.

If not Chelsea gidigbo system and semi Haram ball. Isak has missed 2.5x the big chances Drogba did his whole career. That should tell you all you need to know.

Shegzdave:
Alexander Isak possesses some skill and he has a good number of output

Isak is not Drogba level. Speaks to overall mediocrity of strikers and ball today that we are wowed by Isak, he's good too make no mistake about it but camaan

BlueRayDick:
City won the league without a standing 9 striker . Loserpool did the same thing . Madrid also won the UCL doing same .

The world has moved beyond all that . Once u have a balanced team , u can win silverware; u don’t necessarily need to have a Haaland type of striker to win silverware

That's to tell you say strikers no dey

BlueRayDick:
There are enough team strikers that can do this and currently doing it sef.

Isak of Newcastle is skillful and also a very good striker in his own right. Luiz Diaz of Loserpool is quite skillful and scores beautiful goals. Watkins is equally doing same in Aston Villa colours.

Maybe there's a dearth of quality strikers in recent times , but it doesn't mean there are no good strikers out there scoring more the so called past quality strikers sef

None of these jokers you mentioned are at Drogba level tekkers wise, never mind the likes of Eto'o and a David Villa.

Watkins

You guys should be serious abeg

Capaldi:
I could literally find numerous videos on YouTube of donkeys like Jackson and Lukaku doing those skills. What exactly was in that highlight clip that strikers of today couldn't do? Just take a look at Lukaku the elephant.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjggqZrMitg&pp=ygUXbHVrYWt1IGRyaWJibGluZyBza2lsbHM%3D

Lmao Jackson and Lukaku compared to Drogba in skills? Drogba wey dey throw pullout, free kick

You must be joking. No take laugh kill me abeg

Americans, let me introduce to you Didier Drogba.pic.twitter.com/AFAJ1vEFFR https://t.co/fGBMPL8GWm

— CFC-Blues (@CFCBlues_com) January 6, 2025

When we say quality of ball and strikers have dipped. Watch this clip of Drogba, this is a player commonly misidentified at the time as a brute and bruiser and show me the strikers today that possess this skill.

You can't show me any team with strikers that can do this now

Roland17:
We have a better defense than most teams, I think that usually carries us against the better teams, however, we may luck out with a balanced team.

This is my point exactly. This is why of all your players Jaylen Brown is the one I rate the most as he's the only one who understands the need to not just spam 3s and can get buckets when the 3 isn't falling

Roland17:
Adam Silver pretended like it wasn’t an issue when this 3 point issue started gaining momentum, 2-3 years ago. He is now acknowledging it is an issue only because ratings are plummeting. I was watching Wemby the other night and I was sick to my stomach watching a 7’5 player spam 3s. The state of the league isn’t sustainable, they know it and something has to give.

Teams were averaging 24 3s just in 2014, now it's 38 3s a game. The all star game was the coup de grace I think they took like 100 or 150 3s.

Adam Silver is the worst commissioner in sports never mind NBA no gainsaying

Wemby is taking almost 10 3s a game and only making 35%. Prime Klay Thompson was taking 9. This tells you what's wrong with the game in a nutshell

Roland17:
The quality of play has gotten worse and monotonous to watch. It has essentially become a point contest on drugs. The fans are tuning off, particularly those who keep the discourse going. Reddick is a joke and the more he speaks, the more he exposes this.

As for Reddick he's just being a hypocrite. You can't talk about Barkley and co trashing the product when you're the number 1 trasher of the eras that came before.

Roland17:
Our Meerkat matter don tire me. We no dey even set screen to take the 3 anymore. Guys just walk the ball past the half court and jack 3 balls.

I really worry for what happens when you run up on a team that can go band for band in the 3 department.

Orlando is 4/21 from 3, Cole Anthony is 2/8 from the floor.

1-on-5 what shot do they get up? pic.twitter.com/g1TfqtEZUS

— The Magic Way (@MagicFilmRoom) January 6, 2025

It's a virus that has infected the rest of the league at this point. This joker is a guard. Rather than attack and score, bear in mind they were shooting 4/21 from 3 up till this point. He jacks up another wack 3 and promptly bricks it.

Anyone who think guys like Barkley are supposed to market this junk are nuts. Mind you same Redick is the #1 shitter on the old era so he's a big hypocrite for criticizing these guys for shitting on today's product

Chai. Celtics. Once that 3pt spamming no enter they're toast.

9/46. 3/24 for second half

OKC doing all this winning without Chet btw

Roland17:
Did you see Barkley’s take on Ajala passing the GOAT for most 30 points? Laugh wan kill me die, man killed the joy of every Ajala fan the facts of the matter. AD come add salt with injury when he was asked in the locker room.

Chuck no send anybody. That one go toast everybody papa and mama. I like that the respect is still there between him and the GOAT despite them not being tight anymore

AD everybody know the real. You've played like 7 more seasons. Surprise surprise

Ibime:
See as you show Burna revenue, show Obi Cubana own

From the tax Cubana group is paying, we should be able to know his revenue, yet I never see his name anywhere near the list of taxpayers in Nigeria

Burnaboy workings are clear unlike Cubana. Last year he hit 2 billion streams in UK alone, sold out shows everywhere.

Do you know how many nightclubs are shutting down everywhere, and Cubana is opening his mouth to say that's where his money comes from. Even Jay Z does not make that much from 40-40, a much bigger nightclub brand. Every single major London nightclub I frequented 20 years ago has shutdown, even the ones I used to go to in Birmingham and Nottingham. Nightclub na bad business anywhere in the world. Jay Z opened five 40-40 clubs, promoted it everywhere, all major celebrities going there, and 3 have already shutdown.

Night club time line is 2-5 years absolute max.

I'm surprised he used such fleeting and unreliable business as example.

Melvyn11:
Obi cubana go likely get money pass Wizkid and Burna combine.

I don't like watching people's pockets but don't play with artistes that tour. Their money long like mad.

Anyway these are pointless debates unless una be their accountant

Anyway you people can argue till you're blue in the face and when you're done you can also argue with the ratings. While fans keep tuning out of glorified 3pt shooting contests.

Barkley is only the messenger saying what fans have already been saying since. And his opinion holds more weight than anyone on this thread and even JJ Redick as well

larride:
After going 2/12 from 3s when he had 5/7 from the rim. Classical example of what A40 was saying. 2/12 is diabolical.

Nice how you sidestep the 3point argument to talk about rebound.

He wants us to clap and marvel at a 7'5 player grabbing rebounds. Where is the shame?

He is almost a foot taller than Chuck was and pound for pound Barkley was the better rebounder.

Wemby is 10th in the league in rebounds so I don't know what Skrrrr is even flexing about.

He's shooting barely 35% from 3. Again are we supposed to be wowed by that. Considering he's taking 9 3s a game

timbros:
Translation biko

Someone that masters in petty irrelevant talks and arguments

For instance I brought up his love for Cucurella and he started talking about Van Dijk,Upamenonsense all irrelevant to the subject at hand

Lmao what was that Fighting Irish freestyle? First it was lawsuits now this.

That dude is a sensitive wannabe thug that needs a hug. What type of man got other niggas tatted on his body.

I didn't even know he was the Final boss of Bronsexuals. Hell even Savannah don't got LeBron tatted on her body. Damn. These niggas is a disgrace. Why didn't Kendrick roast him for that alone??

And what's worse he took it down. These fuckin rappers today man

Ballzproblem2:
"free speech" guess is not working out for you then .

Elon has done a terrible job with that app. Maybe not with the free speech but with the workings and schematics of the site

Ballzproblem2:
don't know where the beef started from but burna just dey mention davido name for clout recently,davido no send am unfortunately that en weed pus to drag shameless cubana,it didn't end well.

They all belong to the same sect and fly the same logo Burna can't send anybody to them whether legal or illegal which is what makes this their beef funny and bizarre