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chic2pimp:
Who might that be?..I wonder hmmmm...

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Our in-house self acclaimed over sabi. Who wants us to rehire a 73 year old coach! Help me ask am which 73 year old is still coaching either at club or international level, he is denigrating Jupp as if his Fraudiola ever got to back to back CL Finals. Since 2011 he never kuku smell am but 'fugazis' no go let us rest. What is a 68 year old that just won the treble doing trying to coach another team? I no understand how person no go just gree apply common sense. Going into 2011/2012 season who expected Bayern to get to consecutive CL Finals? Losing via penalties na him be scandalous loss? Help me ask this simpleton which team that weak Chelsea beat to get to the said Final and who COACHED them? I no know whether he dey related to Andres Escobar with this own goal e dey always score abi na amnesia just dey worry am, who blew a 2 goal lead , had a penalty and even one man advantage for 70 minutes and still LOST. In 2baba's voice "Na Yaba Left we dey" because na the only way I fit explain this Kain craze

Neymar1095:
What foundation did jupp actually leave at Bayern.
Mario Gomez and Pizarro left the club

Toni kroos was sold, Shaqiri was an average dunce.

Dante and Gustavo were useless.

After one season manduzkic left, bastian like wise.
Jupp had ribery and robben at their peak form unlike Pep.

Na Jupp sell Kroos? Na him sell Mandzukic? Neuer nko? Boateng? Alaba? Oh Shaqiri is an average dunce? I agree but since most Pep apostles swear Pep made Messi my question is why can't he make another Messi.

Neymar1095:
just imagine this excuse.


The same jupp that also went trophyless...... He was just Lucky that season Bayern won the treble apart from that season with Bayern jupp managerial career Was bleeping Average.

No crime in going trophyless. Even your Fraudiola went trophyless last season despite spending the equivalent of some country's GDP so make we hear word. We have seen your Fraudiola fail woefully against teams at a similar level with him when not armed with Messi and Xaviesta. This ninja lost to Monaco FFS! I agree Jupp's career was average but he made the most of it beating the best team of his generation Juventus and won a treble with us. While Lucho has shown us any samankwe coach can win a treble at Barcelona. I no wan hear anything about Pep Overratediola

chic2pimp:
Who might that be?..I wonder hmmmm...



Yh I remember you were quite Pro Pep at first hence my complete shock in your turnaround. To be fair to Pep, He got you guys to 3 back to back to back semi finals so you really can't describe Him as an utter failure. He might not have achieved His primary objective which was to win the CL however He did get you guys close. He did a good enough Job imo. Remember only one team is going to win the CL every year so does that make every other managers that particular season failures?

The only problem I have with Pep is His insistence on playing all out attacking footy when some situations demands He reins it in a little bit. However I am willing to admit that's what makes Him such a great coach and fascinating character. He has His philosophy and won't deviate from it.

The team had a Championship window which Pep IMO did not maximize. His performance was simply par for the course so you can imagine the dismay seeing this Pep apostles make it sound like Pep was the best thing to happen to Bayern and even giving him other people's glory. He didn't get us close kan kan. If na your definition of close be that then wetin make we call what Simeone and Allegri dey do with Atleti and Juve?

Ribery has ruptured his ACL. Karma is a moraphucka oo! Make these guys go beg Ancelotti oo! Hopefully this means bye bye to Ribery

sebod:
Nope, you claimed Pep ruined Jupp's work and left the club in shambles, therefore he's a fraud while Dayo holds a different opinion. You keep telling us not to believe any megedefege from anyone when you could have easily told Dayo to stop peddling us with such megedefege

I don't see Barca fans still arguing about Enrique but you want two Bayern fans who already know each other's stand on Pep to continue arguing about a manager who has left the club for almost 2 years now. Funny enough Dayo agrees that Pep failed to a large extent the only difference being his stance is moderate while mine is extreme

Ersan:
I must sound crazy to you then cause i told you, we still need boogie.

Besides, its not just a matter of whats on paper, its about them showing up.

Wouldn't be the first time he enlisted the help of the entire league to win a ring so he might as well. Cousins or Nephew I just don't want no excuses bruh

Ersan:
Iguodala is a dirty bum! Been watching highlights of all past finals and its surprising how this man gets away with so many fouls, especially on lebron. But then i guess everyone gets away with fouls on lebron...

Hes still a bum who received the block of the century though. And btw, im pretty sure he missed the shot right after.

Sorry to disappoint you but he made it. Lmao let it rest bro Bron gets more than his fair share of calls especially when he bitches about it. Steph Curry is one of the few superstars that should be righteously angry about not getting calls

Did you see what Iggy did to Paul Millsap? Eziokwu

raumdeuter:
airmark is a dullard. Pay him no mind

I saw the pics of the players in training. It really is possible that these players simply gave Carlo the Ranieri treatment

airmark:
You are a Arrow. Be bold and challenge the stvpid boss of yours. Stop all those snide remarks, call him his name and spank him where it pains most.

This is the year of your freedom from his shackles.

You must be deranged. You need serious deliverance from this stupidity afflicting your life. If you get problems with Dayo why not take it up instead of dragging me into your proxy war. No wonder even your fellow Chelsea fans are beating your head like gangan. Agbaya adojutini

Leyqute:
E say Hazard is winner of Ballon d'Atletico Madrid

Hehehe

It is finished. Congratulations to Hamilton

airmark:
Stop ducking, engage him. Your existence is not in his hands. Let him know that you are more brilliant than him in soccer matters.

Were you in police cell when me and Dayo disagreed on Pep, Goetze and the Carlo sacking? I know you can't help yourself but try not to be stvpid all the time

Barcelona fan wey dey support Golden State warriors dey call people glory hunters. Hehe Sanyeri dey learn work where una dey. Chale puts the Hyp in hypocrite

chic2pimp:
To be fair to A40, He was Pro Guardiola for about 2 and a bit seasons. He only went anti Pep right around the middle of His last season at Munich.

The only bone of contention I have with A40's line of arguement is the "FRAUDIOLA" bit. Why the complete switch? How is He a fraud?
It is okay to feel that He underachieved/felt to meet expectation at Bayern which whilst I don't agree with, I understand. However that does not make Him a Fraud.

Carlo is my favourite Coach currently and If someone called Him a Fraud, i'd take issues with that. It's okay to say He underachieved at Munich but abeg He is no fraud.

I won't deny I was pro-Pep when he came in fact I recall the grueling arguments I had here with Nitlad where we argued extensively and he warned me. I was unhappy with the way we sidelined Don Jupp, but we were getting Pep it would be worth it we all thought

However I started seeing cracks when he brought that 4-1-4-1 nonsense. After seeing us in the knockout stages of the CL no well meaning Bayern fan was comfortable with our style of play! I had issues with Pep from the very first season because I always saw us losing the same damn way. Mauling small fry like Porto, Donetsk, losing badly to Barça, Madrid and looking outclassed while at it. You can argue with my choice of words and tag it like hyperbole but this is the normal response to Fraudiola apostles who think the sun shines from his behind. Shebi na this same forum some of them tell us say Germany's World Cup win was due to Pep's influence. 3 years at Bayern and Pep did not get a Robbery replacement, didn't get a decent CB even the Kimmich they want to credit to Pep was bought to play DM. You know these people are specialists in giving someone another person's glory

Neymar1095:
Pep Bayern become the first
team in history to win the Bundesliga in March.

Because in Germany,
Guardiola has no equal. Count the trophies. Add
up the goals. Look at the way they play. Even
look at the rest of the league, defeated from
Day 1. Guardiola is the best the Bundesliga has
ever seen.

With a team that just completed Bayern's greatest season in history. Pep didn't compete with Klopp's Dortmund who were back to back league winners and good enough to knockout Madrid in the CL. The foundation was laid by Jupp Heynckes

sebod:
There's nothing wrong in being a pro or anti, after all, I don't like anything called Mourinho, but that will never make me ridicule or under estimate his achievement over the years. You said he was pro Pep for like two years and now claimed he destroyed everything jupp did while Dayo claims otherwise. So, I'd like him and Dayo to slug it out rather that having them engage the outsiders.

I also want Charlotte McKinney's titties jiggling in my face but life doesn't always gives us what we want now does it?

sebod:
Somethings are not adding up here really: Raumdeuter believed Pep did well at Bayern while A-40 believed otherwise. Since these two are the chairmen of this thread, why have they been avoiding engaging each other on this Pep discourse while quoting each other on any other issue?

I will really like to read the lines of arguments between these two Bayern fans and not opinions from outsiders

Since you observed that our views are divergent but we support the same team then what is the rationale in engaging in futile arguments about a manager who has left the club? Considering we both agree he didn't deliver on the primary reason he was hired

Ersan:


I can sense the panic, we're not done yet. Boogie is coming, then you'll really sh-it your pants.

Lmao. Why should I panic? I'm actually thrilled because even the most obnoxious Bronsexual can no longer moan about Bron lacking help without sounding crazy

Struggle vs Donetsk and Porto only to beat them at home" simple English my country people

FastShipping:
God bless you. I once discussed this with dayokanu between 2015/2016 season that Guadiola was tearing a good squad apart. Jupp left a balanced team but Guadiola came and dismissed some good players and also utilized some players in wrong positions. Can anyone tell me who was brought in to replace Kroos? Can anyone tell me the reason why Gaidiola moved Martinez into the defense and destroyed his confidence? This same Gaudiola moved Philip Lahm from right back to midfield. For what reason for God sake? Gaudiola dismissed young promising players in Shakiri and Gustavo. Why did he sell Shakiri and bring in Conman? Shakiri is a better player than Conman. The players that were crucial to the winning season under Jupp were let go.The team was set-up with two balanced formations of 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 under Jupp. Alaba has never progressed since Gaidiola came to Bayern Munchen. Alaba is only good when he has a left winger (#11) in front of him to help him out. Does anyone know why Muller hasn't been the same since Jupp left? I know why. Muller is only good being played in the hole in a 4-4-2 formation or on the right side of the front three in the 4-3-3 formation. Muller has regressed due to over tweeking of formation Guardiola did at Bayern Munich. Muller didn't understand what he was doing under Gaudiola. Muller always look lost in the final third.

Like we always say in America, "if ain't broke, don't fix it". Gaudiola brought so much destruction to Bayern Munich with his over tinkering of formations and tactics. He played players out of positions and many of these players lost confidence. These players haven't been the same since Jupp left and Gaudiola came with his over tinkering. The only reason players did not revolt under Gaudiola was because of his succees while at Barcelona. If not, Gaudiola wouldn't have lasted a full season.

I agree with a lot of what you posted though I would tweak a few things. Pep completely burned down everything Jupp built and it took him just 1 season to do it. I was alarmed with how he tore down everything his predecessor did so quickly. Maybe it was an ego thing but the switch from 4-2-3-1 to 4-1-4-1 was an unpardonable mistake! His inability to be pragmatic when needed meant we were always burned out by the season end. Even with his tactical oversabi we still struggled vs Arsenal and even David Nwoyes's Man United and so the destruction at the hands of Madrid was what any astute analyst could see coming!! Don't let them deceive you my guy we were simply flat track bullies! I can bring excavators now and bring out posts during those big matches for those that want to deceive the public and claim we were playing champagne football. A-40 is very long in the tooth so nobody can come here to sell me zobo

Didn't we struggle against the likes of Donetsk and Porto only to beat them at home? Pep spent 3 years at Bayern and failed to buy a quality CB that is still at the club, Failed to replace Robbery with any type of competence. Bernat and Pepe Reina are some of the sankwa players he bought, is it the failed Goetze project? Because the same people who claimed Pep made Messi and improved Sterling would distance themselves from his shoddy and rubbish job on Mario. No replacement for Lahm and the list goes on and on. To be fair to Pep sha Mueller's decline is on Mueller and to an extent Carlo

No be only 30 goals na 100 goals.. Them dey add preseason goals join.

raumdeuter:
Ribery should have been offloaded long ago.

I feel the problem started with Muller and Ribery first, Being popular figures in the dressing room Boateng issued a statement supporting Ribery and he became a target. Robben was next and lastly was Hummels who criticized his lack of tactics at the WOlfsburg game and thhat made Carlo bench him. I feel they didnt totally like the idea of James Carlo brought in also


The FO, the players are at fault, the FO needs to open their puses and make changes Ribery has been at Bayern a decade and Robben 8yrs. Its time to go

You know wetin dey really vex me be say the rebel leaders have been our worst performers this season. If say na Kimmich or Lewandowski dey para e for dey justifiable. I have not seen any player among these guys admit they have been playing like shyte! and it's very unfortunate. If Mueller and Thiago showed consistency I doubt Carlo would have gone for Hames

Carlo's mistake was not entering the market to cop an elite winger that would literally send a message to guys like Robbery that their time is up! I love these guys and would never forget what they did for Bayern but from experience nothing good ever comes from staying in your comfort zone. Who knows maybe we do a Chelsea in 2012 and go all the way but if Bayern must move forward then these guys have to bounce

We are the only elite team in Europe still parading 35 year old injury prone wingers that still believe they ought to start. They would be a problem for any incoming manager who is condemned to play them or risk losing the dressing room

Ibime:


Please who are the 5 players that were against Ancelotti and got him the sack according to Rumenigge. I'm guessing Muller and Lewa are among.

Ribery. Hummels. Robben. Boateng. Coman. Mueller

SmooshCHN:
If they can ask for opponents basket to be smaller and theirs wider they would jump on it. Na today?

Dwyane Wade or Abdoulaye Wade ain't nobody scared of a 36 year old ninja that can't shoot. So long as Klay and Draymond show up on offense Warriors in 6

omotayos01:
They are not at all. At this time, the like of robben and and Ribery should be a back up player while we have quality winger as our starter bt the board believes everything is alright and also claiming the market is over inflated as an excuse for not strengthening this summer.

Ancelotti just have to be the sacrificial lamb while the board is exonerated for their ineptitude and arrogance. The earlier the board realise that the game has change and the over inflated market has come to stay the better for them.

I don't know why Ribery was not offloaded in the summer. Even if he scores the CL winning goal this year he and Robben must go because we cannot continue like this. I found the comments made prior to the game unnecessary and symbolic of a team that did not have its house in order and we saw it on the pitch. Let the board continue with their holier than thou attitude as if they are not collecting money from Qatar as well. Ancelotti is not completely blameless either but I would have given him more time to turn things around. He's an OG that has been there and done that. He tried to take a stand with that lineup and I respect it regardless of the outcome

Pataki:
Ajakaja is not beyond redemption. Apari is getting what he deserves. For far too long, Ajakaja has been under his foolish chain of intellectual bondage.

Ajakaja is simply just living to his name and character.

Bobriskyy when would you free yourself from the chains of Airmark's phallus you God forsaken sodomite. Eranko Ibiye

raumdeuter:
So if its knee jerk, How do you continue when half the dressing room are no longer with you?

And its showing when we play. Check posts on every online forum or analyst about Bayern play since the start of this season. How do we play 10men Anderlecht and not create chances for over an hour? or Mainz

Opening day vs Leverkusen they had 19 shots against us. How can that be happening to a Bayern team when its not PSG we are playing. If we are conceding 19 shots to Leverkusen who failed to score more than 1, Is it now a shock that PSG pasted us?

Bayern at our lowest shouldnt be conceding 19 shots to Leverkusen even if its Lell and Gorlitz we line up

It's knee jerk based on the timing and the circumstances involved. Had Carlo used the full squad and still lost would he have gotten the axe? What I want to see is if the players are capable of better and if they are I would gladly admit Carlo was entirely at fault. Bayern is greater than any one individual or group of individuals,

We had 17 corners and PSG had just 1. We had more shots on target and on goal yet we lost. We actually played better against PSG than even the Mainz and Anderlecht but then football is a game of absolutes. All I'm saying is we are in September and no team is firing at full strength. The annoying part for me is that the worst players this season have been the ones at the center of the whole gbege. Leverkusen dey always give us trouble, remember our treble season na only them beat us for house

raumdeuter:
Personally I will think the best choice is to find either Juup Heynckes or Guus Hiddink type guy to first stabilize us. for the whole season by summer, we can have enough time to get a good manager

I am not too sold on Naggelsman or Tuchel yet. They still play that suicidal high line, We need a coach who will drill the basics back into our game before we start fancy tactics, Ancelotti being Italian fall hand in that aspect. Italian manager that cannot coach defence shey na Italian be that?

I no go mind Hiddink. Jupp has been out of the game for almost 5 years and if I were him I wouldn't take the job tbh. If results don't go our way some fans would kuku insult him and it would be unfortunate. Tuchel and Nagelsmann issa no for me. Not yet at least because I don't know if either of them can control the divas we have assembled

EvilMetahuman:
the problem of bayern started with baldiola.

Jupp left a very balanced team, Both in defence and attack.

Baldiola came with his useless philosophy of all attack no defence. Trying to make barcelona out of bayern instead of building on the success of jupp.
He forgot that what worked for barca may not work for bayern.
He ran away from his failure and left behind a terrible ageing team with couple of terrible signings.

Fraudiola spent 3 years at Bayern and failed to replace Robbery ,failed to buy a decent CB or a decent LB to backup or compete with Alaba. Failed to get a replacement for Lahm and essentially burned Jupp's team to the ground but tactical genius. He has gone to England to spend the equivalent of some country's GDP yet ordinary Carabao Cup e never win, still
on still some people just dey make noise like Terry Apala. Nna eh adim weak oo

Pataki:
Your mates are settling down, getting married and making families. You this odious idiöt continue swiping right on Tinder looking for Lola. Odun wo lo fe gbon bayi?

Oloriburuku le leyi oo. What is wrong with this homoerotic nuisance and what is your business with my marital status. You wey don marry how has your marriage helped the society? Ori e kuku ti gbale you phoolish 45 year old social media monitoring spirit. Bilewu! Keep spending your every waking hour stalking men on Tinder. That herpes wey you dey find one adofuro like yourself would still give it to you

Do Nagelsmann and Tuchel possess the clout to manage Bayern? Can they handle that locker room after one bad result? Will
Kalle and co not hang them out to dry when things no pure? Can they attract elite talent from South America and Continental Europe? Let us learn from Man U and David Nwoyes oo!! It's taken them 4 seasons to recover