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GBR1:
My point is valid; that he just got there doesn't change the truth. If you buy a player and he plays badly in this first season, won't he said to be mediocre at that point in time? Bastian was already dross at Bayern sef because he hardly played and even a 34 year old Alonso was preferred to him than and put in better performances.

GBR1:
what class are you taking about? I have addressed this issue already. Most big clubs are classless clubs in this modern era (Bayern included) you should see my posts.
There was no place in his contract that it was stipulated that he must train with the first team. we haven't violated any term in the contract, and we're only doing what we have to do to force him out. He can take us to court and see what he'll be told.
was that performance in a United shirt? Did he ever put in a performance like that for United? No.
How can you reason like this? Of what use is his performance in German shirt or his past performances in Bayern shirt to United?
This is the issue i have with him. He had an injury that was supposed to rule him out for the Euros but he played in it because of his love for Germany; i can't imagine him doing that for United. He looked slimmer and fitter for Germany than he had ever been at Manchester; he also put in performances far better than anything he had shown at United. Can you imagine that? What does that tell you about Bastian and his commitment to United?

You're basically making my argument for me.


How can we sell him then when he doesn't want to leave? Mourinho told him quite very early to leave but he hasn't done so. This is what we do as a last resort so Bastian only has himself to blame. Valdes has won everything and even more than Bastian and he was a Barcelona legend, didn't he get similar treatment at United under LVG? Was Mourinho also in charge then?
Did you see Barcelona president or folks complaining like Bayern folks did? No. They don't have a silly and stupid president like Kalle who doesn't know when to shut his mouth and their fans aren't hypocrites like you guys. If i wanna rate Barcelona and Bayern folks, i know who i'll place first.

Bayern given similar conditions has done similar acts in the past to their very own players and they are asking we show ask respect to someone who isn't our own. what kind of hypocrisy is this?

A40 you're just going round and round and have said basically nothing. Your love for Bastian is clouding your reasoning and has made you biased in the whole situation. Una no get point at all.

airmark:
Only a dolt like you will celebrate a 'snippet' when he should be beasting every game. That first half performance was not enough to show he could play top flight football for a sizable period. That hazard scored a beautiful goal against tottenham was not enough for a sensible chelsea fan to say hazard was great last season. Only idiots like you and dayo will be pointing at an impressive 1/8th of matches played as ''beasting''. What is always wrong with you guys?

GBR1:
Well, he would and should be treated as thrash until he finds a new club and that's nobody business since he's our player either.
This is the hypocrisy associated with Bayern folks i always have problems with. What respect or class do you guys want from us?
Is Bayern not a classless club too? Basically all big clubs are classless; it's the modern way.

GBR1:
Bayern had been doing similar acts since god knows when and nobody complained. Didn't you guys basically force your treble winning coach Juup out into retirement against his wish?

GBR1:
Was Luca Toni not banished to the reserves to force him out?
You guys have forced out a lot of players against their wishes especially old strikers through whatever means no matter how classless and nobody complained.

GBR1:
Juventus a very stingy club paid 90 million for higuain who is 29 by decemeber in this current market because we are taking Pogba from them. Were Juventus MAGAd too? They have an history of making smarter bigs deals than any big club ever. They were the same folks who sold Zidane for a record fee to buy 3

quality players in Thuram, Nedved and Buffon IIRC.
United aren't complaining about the Pogba deal, so get over it. We have more money to spend than any other club currently so it's only normal we overpay most times.

GBR1:
Stop blaming Mourinho; go and check out Jose's quotes about him in the past. Mourinho rated him very highly and had nothing but praise to speak of him in the past and currently if Mourinho wants him out of the team for good, then it's for good reason. It's the same Mourinho you guys said loved using old players; have you forgotten?
There are 32 year olds who are still very good players contributing a lot to their teams unlike Bastian who can't stay fit to save his own life; those 32 year olds aren't on very big wages like Bastian either. Bastian scenario is entirely different. He's one of my favorite player but my love for United is far greater; i want him out of the club ASAP and it's for good reason.

airmark:
This guy is confused and at the same time senseless. So a first half performance is enough to rate him above everyone. Chai, your idiocy wears french suit. No wonder you were chased away from arsenal thread.

GBR1:
Yes our midfield is currently poor but Bastian is a very big part of that dross. He collects more than half in wages of all our other midfield options put together and that's why getting rid of him is getting rid of that dross.
He can live on past glories at Bayern because he's your legend but United owe him nothing. We can't pay him him such big wages while he contributes next to nothing.

I followed Bastian career over the years because i was a big fan of his. I remember when he was converted from being a winger to a midfielder and i remember clearly his best years. He was a top midfielder; one of the very best of his generation and he would even have a good chance getting into the Germany's best midfield of all times. But all these things matter very little to me currently. He was a good passer but wasn't exactly known for that; his best performances always involved his high energy levels as B2B and his technical abilities. So people expecting him to transform into this Pirlo or even Carrick level on dictating games are demanding too much from him. He's finished as a midfielder in the top level and it's the truth; he could contribute a little more in a very heavily based possession system but the whole thing is gonna be average at best. Jose's style is far different and even for that Carrick would perform better than Bastian is usually more available; it's no surprise Jose chose to kept him and extended his contract while telling Bastian to leave. Mourinho obviosly would try bringing in better players and there's no space for Bastian on the wage bill.

If Bayern want him, they should come back for him because most clubs are refusing to take him but i won't accept any United criticism from Bayern folks because Jose is making the right decision for the club however unpleasing it might be to them.

GBR1:
It was Bastian who wanted to leave but Bayern weren't exactly sad about it because he was pretty much useless to you guys then however a legend he was. Bayern midfield actually became stronger after he left. Why don't you guys take him back currently?

Una don see MAGA abi? didn't Ancelloti rule out his return recently?

GBR1:
What was the results of those visits? Basically nothing. Did they result in Bastian being less injured or did he become fitter? No

They were useless, and that's why we're complaining. Some United players weren't even happy about that. If you've a personal doctor who is so important to you, it's best you bring him to the City or Country you're in; see Zlatan's case for example.

GBR1:
Bastian commitment to his new club was really in doubt and he did little to prove the contrary. I can remember him going for such trips when he was with Bayern.

GBR1:
LVG was the one who allowed him such freedom but LVG ended up criticizing him after he realized how useless he was for United. That was the man who brought him in, and Bastian's failure at United was one of the numerous reasons for LVG failure.
Obviously, you don't follow United games. Carrick put in better performances than Bastian last season and currently he's still our best midfielder by far so stop saying what you don't know much about.
Regards career and all time, Carrick is better than either Herrera or Fellani but Bastian is the best and is even a tier above any of them. Nobody doubts that but he's done so little at United and that's what matters. He's not a even United legend so there are no excuses for mediocrity because he never put in excellent performances for us in the past. Bastian at his best was easily better than Carrick or any of them but he's not at his best at United

GBR1:
Last season, he was average at best all through, and i'm being nice with this description.
Bastian is on very big wages; wages far higher than Fellani's and Herrera's put together so don't even get me started on that. Jose style is far different to LVG's and he has decided Bastian has no future in his plans unlike Herrera and Fellani who can be useful to him; what you've done in the past doesn't matter. But Bastian has decided to sit down doing nothing and collecting big wages as he likes but Jose is having none of that; That why we have this current fracas.

Dadehmola:
This is what you should be emphasizing and not the decision to deem him surplus to requirements..

If Mourihno's intention is to revamp our midfield (or squad as a whole), you cannot fault the decision to offload Bastian, considering his well-documented horrible injury record at the club (and even at Bayern before he joined us).

The midfielders you listed may not have performed to the standards expected but it wouldnt be outta place if a manager decides to give them a chance to improve......at the expense of a 32year old who has spent more time at specialist hospitals in the last 3 years Thereabout.

I personally do not like Mourinho's confrontational style - the way he handled Mata & Lukaku while at Chelsea seemed as if a personal vendetta he had against them clouded his sense of objectivity (if we are to take into account the fact that these were in-form players prior to his arrival). However, i can only fault the apparent disrespect he is showing Bastian & not the decision to ship him out of the club (if the rumours are true )

airmark:
I remember dayo mocking man utd fans for buying a tired bastian from bayern, but a40 would always say rubbish to defend anything associated with bayern. It is not unexpected, after years of horrible experiences with arsenal he can even lay his life down against anything that will smear the image of bayern and his players, those dead and those alive. Bayern brought the joy that eluded him for since he started following football. A40 does n't watch football matches , he foollows football by refreshing livecores.com

GBR1:
He's almost always not fit so what are you talking about? Those mediocre options are more valuable to us so he should fucк off.

Nobody gives a sh1t about his World Cup medals in United because he has done nothing since he arrived.

Bastian want to continue doing MAGA for United; collecting big wages while doing nothing. Mourinho should treat his fucк up jare. Wetin concern us say hin be Bayern or German legend?

SIRcumalot:
and you're looking at him through your nostalgia googles.
at best he is a squad player same as he would've been in your team or any other team with our ambition.
he doesn't give us anything we don't already have.
i don't want him offloaded yet,he owes us one of those trade mark outside shot he used to score for fun few years back.

GBR1:
When fit? Good thing you said that else this would've descended to a different discussion.

Did Pep not say Bastian hasn't been fit for about 2 years or even more?

Was Bastian fit at United? No; he spent more time injured and played less than one third of the total games we had in a season. Instead on working on his fitness issues, he was flying almost every time to Munich and spent more time there than even Manchester( a lot of United players were not even happy about it) and when he wasn't in Germany, he was touring the world with his girlfriend playing tennis and enjoying her pussу.
Carrick at 34 is even fitter than him and Mourinho has chosen him over Bastian and rightfully so. Last season Carrick still had better performances for United than Bastian. Maybe if Bastian was fit, maybe maybe.... Nobody gives a sh1t about that.

He has done or proven nothing at United; he's current a liability and pretty useless to us. He can fucк off and rightfully so.

SIRcumalot:
Na by euros qualifications ?
if he wasn't an important German player I wonder if he even makes the squad for the Euro's.
I understand why you go rush to the defence of a Bayern legend but to us,he is just a mercenary living on past Glory and only as useful as what he delivers on the field and he hasn't delivered much.

airmark:
I wanted to reply a40 saying no one is better than schweinny in man utd midfield then I saw your reply. I don't just know how these guys watch their football. Where is dopejemi and all these man utd fans , is it true that no one is better than that German in your team ?

SIRcumalot:
going solely on last season those three played more games and also played better.
forget who the better player is sef,injuries doesn't allow him enough game time to show himself.
only a mad man will leave all that money,
I think Jose handled this situation as best as a situation like that could be handled.

SIRcumalot:
I never wanted bastian,
his move was a cash grab disguised as a new adventure move.
he won't force a move because he isn't good anymore and nobody will pay that wage.
only Bayern fans should be vexed,but if they loved him as much as they claim maybe they should've kept him.
I do believe that this story is been blown way out of proportion,Jose will never win a PR war, at this point people will always believe the worst,any attempt na just waste of time.

Roland17:
No football fan, Bavarian or not should be happy with the way Mou/ United is treating B. Schweinsteiger. its is despicable and vindictive, and I can not understand why Bastian has not forced a move away from Old Trafford.

This was another transfer that should have never happened in the first place, if he ever thought of leaving FC Hollywood he should have moved to another Bundesliga team. The premier league was way too demanding for his age, he got injured and now is being ridiculed by Mou as he now trains with the youth team.

Lana1:
Abegi. All this talk of protection is overrated. When did y'all turn to bodyguards

Madam Brestar if u're going to survive in this section, here's the different category of men/boys u need to know:

Those wey don marry with children sef:
afrodoc2, usbcable, timbros, fbs, lalaboi

Those that are already engaged and should be getting married b4 the end of the year:
Ibime, nateevs, sebod, dahdemola, elampiro

Those wey suppose don marry but still forming player:
Awon Nihilist, dopejemi, raumdeuter, A40, sailorxy, pataki, dmcdad, coded01.
(Be extra careful and prayerful with this group )

The gentle, hardworking and Godfearing young men:
Diggz, chelseafan1, bigkesh, lana1, elrony, sinizia, codedguy1, bykebyke, griffon, homesteady, gbr1, parrotibaba, sod09, chrisley024
(We are quite many in this category and cant list them all)

Those dat ve been dumped more than 3 times by different girls:
Spy360, hensben, debroslink, keky, ollah1

The drunkards and troublemakers:
edoyad, ipopalomo, kokaneprodigy.
(This last set shouldn't surprise u. They are all Arsenal fans and 12 yrs of mediocrity ll do that to u. Stay away from dem at all costs )

Have a splendid evening

Pataki:
Have you graduated from your English comprehension class? English writing and comprehension was your major problem almost ten years ago on this forum. Yet still, you have not improved one bit.

Why should I waste my time on a certified oloshi like you?

raumdeuter:
Which kirchoff issue? The Bundesliga reject who won epl player of the month under 4 months in the epl?

Kirchoff was in Bundesliga for several years getting tossed from one loan to another. He was actually playing with bayern youth team until he discovered the useless league called epl where he can win player of the month

Fuchs Okazaki also won a league for the first time in their career in the useless epl

Pataki:
You are a doofus. You are fast overtaking A40 in irrational idiocy. Pep does not need to win any league? What kind of imbecilic statement is this nitori olorun? So he came to the EPL to market guguru and epa abi? Arindin oshi.

It seems you are in your period of extreme cyber-foolishness again.

airmark:
Next time when you want to drop your usual lies, check the moniker that may be peeping, AIRMARK is different from A40.
Foolish boy ramuzaki

SIRcumalot:
It may just be caused by that emission scandal wey jam Volkswagen.
early this year

raumdeuter:
Looks like Wolfsburg is crumbling after selling DeBruyne, they finished 8th, Naldo left, Schurrle left, Max Kruse left, Dante looking to leave, Draxler is looking to leave. Rumours have been trailing Luis Gustavo and Ricardo Rodriguez too

AT least no one would blame Bayern for destroying Wolfsburg who ended 2nd in the bundesliga 2 seasons ago

airmark:
LLfoolj has nothing in common with me. Mr. A40 Afaulty of life.

airmark:
Burnthisleaguedown is gradually turning to dumping ground for bad, declining players. The german fa needs to do something fast to tired legs finding shelter in that league. djilobodji, kagawa, baba rahman, harnandez are making a ridicule of that bayernliga with 5 star performances here and there. Thunder will fire chelsea if they sign players like baba rahman from that fake league again. One of the best lb in that league came to chelsea and started playing like nassarrawa utd player.

airmark:
We have told you national team performance is not always the reflection of the league. Must you always reason like a fool ? Epl is filled with majorly foreign players , especially the top 5.This as expected would have bad effect on the national team. Because Nigeria beat spain in 1998 , would you say our league was better than spanish league that time? Because France did well , would never make any sensible person rate ligue 1 above epl. You cant measure a country league with national team performances. It makes you sound like a goat.

Pataki:
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You have made no sense Suupo! Kellorah will soon come and put you in your well deserved cage again.

airmark:

How are you feeling now that dayo has come to take you away for safety ? Next time don't drop rubbish here.

chrisley024:
Sané deal means the Premier League has pumped over €400 million into the Bundesliga 'economy' in the last two summer transfer windows alone.

raumdeuter:
I remember when some Manure fans were trolling a year ago that they chanced Bayern to Schweini, Now they are stuck with a permanently crocked ninja on 10M a yr. Let Schweini run out his contract collect the maga money finish, Go MLS collect small and return to Bayern board

raumdeuter:
City signs Sane, where are all the "Weakening the Bundesliga" activists? Does Bundesliga get stronger now that Sane and Mikitaryan leaves?
So Bayern strenghten, the foreign clubs buys top players from Bayerns domestic rivals. So who got weaker and who got stronger?

Anyway I hope Schalke spends the money wisely and get themselves out of debt

Mizzzbeee:
do you know Nigeria refused to insure them for the afrobasket and the players decided to come like dat regardless.. So if they had incurred any injuries NA their wahala be that.

Now they tried the same thing going to the Olympics

Mizzzbeee:
this country ehn smh