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Sagamite: Let me argue like this moronic person called A-40.

"Michael Owen is greater than Alan Shearer. Owen played for bigger teams like Liverpool, Real Madrid, Man U and Newcastle.

Who did Shearer play for? Did Red Star Belgrade or Nottingham Forrest come and buy him? Or you want to compare Blackburn and Newcastle to those 2 great clubs?


Did Shearer even play outside England?

What international competition did Shearer win? Owen won the UEFA Cup for Liverpool, and even the UEFA Super Cup where he scored a goal and was Man of the Match.

Owen also scored 40 goals for England while Shearer only scored 30.

Shearer only won 1 league title in his career, Owen won 1 league title, 1 FA Cup, 3 League Cups, 2 FA Community Shields, 1 UEFA Cup and 1 UEFA Super Cup.

Owen is greater than Shearer."

The ratiocination of a pure person! And the person has a right to vote.

You really are an idi0t!! Ohh my goodness how can one human being be such a knobhead
I admit you have improved enough by bringing in a sensible player at least now I know I am imparting some intelligence on you. Alas all hope is not yet lost
But sorry you are wrong again!! Owen is better than Shearer
Are you serious?? Owen was a phucking goal-machine!! If not for injuries who knows how good he really would have been
When Shearer wins the Balon D'or and scores in 4 consecutive major tournaments by all means get back to me

Hahahahaha phuck outta here with that phoolish comparison! Phuck outta here

Sagamite: You are a person!

I knew your moronic arsse would see your folly and moronically stick with defiance. Like a typical person Nigerian product of a failed education system. Cretin!

Someone's vocabulary that is limited to person and cretin is talking about an education system? Shut the phuck up puta!!

Sagamite: So according to you then Liverpool is a bigger club than Barcelona and Man U since they have won more CLs.

Surely you must be an illiterate on a wind up mission. Bilewu! Show me where I said Liverpool is bigger than Barcelona.
You must be suffering from tunnel-vision!! You are comparing teams that have won the tournament to each other I'm comparing one that has won it to another that has not won it at all!!

Sagamite: Any player playing for Liverpool is playing for a bigger club than a player playing for Barcelona.
Any player playing for Nottingham Forrest, Red Star Belgrade or Steaua Bucuresti today is playing for a bigger club than someone playing for Arsenal, Roma, Valencia, PSG, Man City, CSKA Moscow, Lazio, Werder Bremen, Atletico Madrid, Dynamo Kiev or Lyon.
Foool!

Lemme spin your analogy on you! You simple minded piece of farm compost cos only a tarado like you would use present history to judge the greatness of a player or club! So if Fabio Cannavaro is playing for Al-Said that means he is a useless player
Can you see now that you are ret@rded?
Or do you need more empirical evidence

Sagamite: I am so good at proving people are fucktards!
Fucktards always struggle with analogies. That is how you spot a person. If Onyali wins Olympics, she is likely to have run a faster time, so she would be better, cretin.

What a wasteman!! There are numerous other reasons Onyali could win e.g she coulda run a slower time and still won unless you are trying to tell us all fastest times are run at Olympics
Hahahaha each time you try to come up you wind up coming up missing

Even Uncle Phil is laughing at you. Bwahahahaha

And they say Kobe doesn't pass the ball! Dude is averaging almost eleven assists a game in the last 4 games

Hahahaha I'd be standing at ur frontyard yelling bring em out bring em out! Abi how TI take talk am? You are an idi0t of Leviathan proportions and I would keep exposing it till there's nothing left

Sagamite: You are a person!

Let me dice you one-by-one so you don't hide your fucktardism under long posts.

We will come back to the Zico and 60s parity of League idiocy afterwards for more dicing of a person suya.

Bring it on you phucking farm-tool let me shoot you with your own bullet.

Sagamite: You moronic arsse said like a pure person that Nottingham Forrest is a bigger club than Arsenal purely because Nottingham Forrest has won more international cups than Arsenal.
Your cretinous arsse made this moronic claim despite the fact that Arsenal has won 13 League titles (3rd highest in England) in comparison to Nottingham Forrest's 1 League title, and Arsenal's 10 FA Cups (2nd Highest in England) in comparison to Nottingham Forrest's 2 FA Cups.

What a douche! If Blessing Okagbare wins 100 Mobil Track and Field Championships and Mary Onyali wins 1 Olympic gold medal! Who would be remembered as greater?
When Arsenal win just one Champions League title I would gladly retract my statement

Sagamite: All that and the fact that Arsenal has more finances, has more superstars playing for it and has more success in the last 20 years did not matter to your daft arsse. According to a person like you, "Nottingham Forrest has won 2 Champions League that makes them a bigger club than Arsenal, period".

They have more finances? And? Anzhi Makachala has finances so does Man City does that make them greater than Porto or Benfica?
Success my arse! They are approaching their 8th year without a trophy. So much for a big club

Sagamite: So, by logical inference, Liverpool in your person world that has won 5 Champions League must be a bigger club than Barcelona that has won a mere 4 Champions League.

Liverpool must even be a bigger club than Man U that has won a measly 3 Champions League too. Isn't it? Fooooool!

Cretin, can you see how dumb you are now?

I didn't say bigger you Ekwensu! Akpasusu! I said they where peers!! Of a truth you are not smarter than a used tampon. As far as onfield success goes they are peers!! Unlike you I'm not foooled by their recent successes
Commercial revenue,funds,stars come and go but the trophies stay!!! So any sensible person would attach more premium on trophies!

debosky: ^^

I don't quite understand the critique either - 5 goals in the last 3 games, and he provided the assist for the equaliser too.

Yes he could've scored more, but so could Theo, and even Per/TV5 who had decent chances as well.

None of the goals we conceded were even close to being special - if we cut out the insane defensive cock-ups then we wouldn't be here talking about a draw.

As for DK, I don't know what he is making noise about - Gibbs or anyone else being out of the CL tie will make no difference to us knocking Bayern out. After all, we beat Barca that is 1,000,000 times better than Bayern at the Emiraati a couple of years ago with Johann Djourou in central defence.

February is almost here! Enuff smack talk! Na only ur mulla I wan dey hear from here on out

mukina2: with the way Dayo and A40 are going about how Bayern will finish us.

i want us to beat them so badly that they wont have the strength to sign in

home and away

i know we can and we will!

[s]i wonder what team A40 will support next season [/s] i still loff you

Notice I never joined you guys to diss dayo on the Bayern thread! That has always been my club! Its like a Prince Charles and Camilla sumtin

We won't underrate yall we made that mistake last season against Chelsea. So long as we don't do that this time around you guys really don't have a chance

Win or lose Bayern remains my team. I loff you too! Better come to where the grass is green

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Roland17: Finally the Grizzlies trade Rudy Gay and Haddadi to the Raptors in a three team trade agreement, the Grizzlies would receive Ed Davies and J. Calderon, Calderon would then be traded to the pistons for Prince and Austin Daye who would head to the Grizzlies.

That's not really a smart move from a contender perspective! Maybe from a financial angle it makes more sense! But we can pretty much strike the Grizzlies out of the list of contenders now

Josh Smith might get traded too

dayokanu: Abeg when is Bayern playing Arsenal?

Can we play oth games at the Emirates?

Debosky and other GAYYners How about the bet $200?

Abeg me and Debosky don agree oh no come pour sand sand for my garri mehn

dayokanu: Ichiro my niggah How far

Lmao! I dropped the ball obviously

Sagamite: You are a person!

Any cretin that says Nottingham Forrest is a bigger club than Arsenal is a person!

Any cretin that says Liverpool is a bigger club than Barcelona or Real Madrid is a person!

Dejo Tumfulu doesn't know when to stop. Can you please show where I said Liverpool is bigger than Barcelona never mind Madrid? You must suffer Tourette's syndrome or one very rare disease that phucks with your mental coordination
Get back to me when Arsenal become a one-time European Champion never mind two

Sagamite: Football teams are judged by their history and current standings in the world of intelligent people. Their history is not restricted to wins, you bloody cretin, people or teams coming second or third are not small because they did not win except to a cretin!
Are you jotting that education down, fooool!

You are not even consistent with your arguments! No club can remain dominant forever that is where history comes in!!
Sports is cyclical you tarado! 2nd is not the winner and no one remembers 3rd
So going by your ret@rded definition Man City,Leverkussen,Tottenham don't even fit that description

Sagamite: You are a person!
Continue quoting what they won more than 30 years ago and say that makes them a big club today! Cretin!
Has Uruguay not won more consistently than Holland and Portugal?
So Uruguay is a bigger footballing team than Holland or even Portugal?
Cretin!

Try telling the English that won their last World Cup almost 50 years ago that it doesn't count! Try telling Italy that won 4 World Cups before World War 2 that they are not the 2nd most successful team in World Cup competition!
Uruguay is more successful than Holland and Portugal combined as far as onfield achievement is concerned. You can argue till your face turns people but you can't take away their Jules Rimet trophies

Sagamite: You are a person!
Didi? Mazzola? Jair Da Costa? Amarildo? Marcelo Pagani? All those players leaving South America to play in Europe in the 60s?
Cretin, Zico stayed in Brazil? He did not play in Udinese? FOOOOOOOOL!
Your moronic, dumb arsse did not check your facts before your vomitted your stupidity? Your person arsse is opening your arsse (which is basically your mouth) to talk about mental handicap?

What of Gerson,Tostao,Pele,Garrincha??
Europe back in the day was an after-thought which is why most of the guys on your list did not leave Brazil till their late 20's that's like Messi or Rivaldo joining Barcelona at 28 in these modern times!
Even those that left early always ended up back in South America
By the way who is Marcelo Pagani in the pantheon of players?? What a dumb phuck!!
Listen you tarado back then the South American League was as strong as the European Leagues. Which is why even in the era of Zico South American clubs took their European counterparts to the cleaners! Regularly!
Who doesn't know that Zico didn't spend his entire career in Brazil? Very soon you would say I said Pele spent his entire career in Brazil as well. Raasclaat!!

Sagamite: person, are Zico and Socrates poor players?

Hahahaha only that Zico won the South American championship and Club World Cup, Socrates also played for legendary Corinthians I wonder which of this applies to Okocha. The mind boggles

Sagamite: You are a person! So Micheal Owen is greater than Gascoigne?

Ohh shut da phuck up! U are fast becoming an irritant!
Who is Paul Gascoigne in the comity of midfielders? We are not arguing about who can down more 40 OZ's

Sagamite: You are a person!
So you know Okocha is the one to fear but your moronic, mentally deficient arsse sees McCarthy as a great over Okocha?

You see how dumb you are?

Are you illiterate ninja? Is it that you can't read between the lines? I said get back to me when Okocha leads his team to back to back World cups. Abi make I type am for Yoruba for you. Obo Langido

Sagamite: You are a person!
If Flamengo is bigger than those 2, how come players are not flocking their?

Because they can't afford them you simp!!! Cash rules! We are in the era of the Almighty mullah!
If Flamengo could pay 150,000 pounds a week it would instantly become a mecca

Sagamite: You moronic arsse would even say TP Mazembe is a bigger club than Anderlecht.

Comparing European clubs to African clubs hehehe you have enuff rope to put yourself in the air. I'd just kick away the chair

Sagamite: person, explain to me why Zico did not play for a big club and does that make him any less great? Why did Barcelona, RM, AC, Inter etc did not see it fit to buy him?

What part of Flamengo was a big club does this maricon not understand?

Sagamite: person, according to your moronic logic, Katongo led a team that beat Drogba's team so Katongo must be better. Drogba could not win him.

This your Alzheimer's is serious oh! No one is comparing Drogba to Katongo. Its all in your head clown

Hehehehe what is Sinzu this is becoming something else

Good ol Pistolerooo

Sagamite: You are a person, you still don't get the point.

If a player is playing for Man City or Arsenal today and another player is playing for Benfica or Porto, who is playing for a bigger club?

You are an ignorant buffoon but I would contribute my quota to society and educate you anyway.
First and foremost football did not start today you don't wave away decades of achievements because of a few good seasons!! I repeat pedigree,trophies are what makes a big club not who plays there at the moment you Tool!!
If Man City please let them sign Messi! They are still a small club

Sagamite: This is why you are a person!

So according to your dumb logic anyone playing for Nottingham forest is playing for a bigger club than someone playing for Arsenal?

Liverpool is a peer to Barcelona?

Can you see the outcome of the reasoning of a cretin?

18 League titles,Seven FA Cups, 5 Time European Champs,3 Uefa cups,3 supercups
Please tell us how they are not peers! In the assembly of schizophrenics you should be crowned King. Asiwere
Johnny Just Come

Sagamite: You are a person.

Uruguay has won 2 WC, Holland has won none. So Uruguay is, according to your moronic logic, bigger footballing nation than Holland?

In case you missed the point "A big club wins and wins consistently"

Sagamite: You are a person!
That is why Brazilian players were travelling to Europe to play?
So football in the 80s in South America was at the same level as Europe? You are a cretin! You are stuggling to defend you moronic logic?
So Zico and Socrates are rubbish players?

Who where the Brazilian players travelling to Europe? Name them? When people that know the game are talking you should shut da phuck up!! Know your role and shut your damn mouth!!
Toulalan like you didn't know that those days the South American Leagues where ridiculously tough
This clown actually thinks Pele didn't play at a big club! Tostao,Gerson,Rivelino,Garrincha,Zico all stayed in Brazil! Not for lack of talent but because going to Europe was actually not a step forward!
And wait there's more from 1979-1989 in the Intercontinental Cup (competition I'm sure your mentally handicapped self has never heard of)
South American clubs actually outshone European ones
Head to head was 8-3

So yet again your general lack of knowledge on any subject matter has been exposed to all and sundry

Sagamite: Gascoigne is not an English great because he never played for a big club? Owen is greater because he played for Real Madrid, Man U and Liverpool?

Paul Gascoigne a great?? Hahahahahaha keep enlarging your coast of idiocy!! Gascoigne ko Gasket ni! Do you think we are arguing about who can consume the most pints of beer here?

Sagamite: You are a person!

So you can see your folly so you are running from the question?

Benni is great but you fear Okocha on the pitch more than him? Foooooooool!

We all fear Okocha on the pitch! But no top manager saw it fit to sign him! Get back to me when Okocha leads his team to back to back World Cup qualifications

Sagamite: What was Zico's case? Why did he not play for a big club? Cretin!

Hahahaha Flamengo that won the Copa Libertadores and World Club cup as well is not a big club but Fenerbache and PSG are?
Keep exposing your cluelessness we are all watching

Sagamite: You are a person!

They won CIV, hence, according to your moronic logic, they are a better team than CIV and Katongo that "won it for them" (the typical argument of cretins like you) is a better player than Drogba that could not "win it" for CIV?

What is this confused maricon talking about?? Did Katongo win the Premiership and UCL? Or where does the comparison come in? Drogba has won more medals for his team,more individual accolades,scored more goals! Where does the comparison come in?

Sagamite: We intellectuals need to put cretins like you in a cage with baboons instead of giving you a right to vote and contribute your daftness.

You an intellectual? Your IQ is about the temperature of the North pole right now! You are about as coordinated as a newborn giraffe
If not for human rights violation you woulda been neutered and euthanized

Sagamite: You are a person!

Man City, Arsenal and PSG are small clubs but Porto and Benfica are big clubs?

You are a cretin! When I told you to shut up, I knew you were a cretin!

Man City playing in their 2nd Champions League in their history are a big club? Won their first league title in 44 years last year are a big club? Hahahahahahaha! Hahahahahaha!
If you don't know about Porto and Benfica you better do your research and stop exposing yourself as a jackass!
PSG with less than 10 league titles and only 1 international trophy in their history which doesn't even exist anymore are a big club! Bigger than Porto and Benfica! Jesu sukun! See what sugar daddy syndrome has caused. You would soon tell us Malaga are a big club

Sagamite: You are a person!

So Liverpool is a bigger club than Barcelona because they have won more Champions League?

So Nottingham Forest is a bigger club than Arsenal because they have won Champions League a few times and Arsenal has never?

Lool look at this boring monotonous ret@rd. Liverpool and Barca are more or less peers! 5 times European Champions to 4 times European champions! 6 or half a dozen. Only thing Barca have going for them is recent dominance

Nottingham is bigger than Arsenal! Till Arsenal win the CL they can never be regarded as a big club you sh!tbrick

Sagamite: So Uruguay is a big footballing country because they won things back in the day? Fooool!

So Zaire is a bigger footballing nation than Tunisia because they have won more Afcons? Fooool!

Cretins without ratiocinating abilities that have to take simpleton approach to analysis.

Are you blind? Deaf? Dumb? Or do you suffer from all three infirmities! I clearly wrote that you become a big club by winning and winning consistently.

Sagamite: You are a person!
But you your moronic arsse said a player is not great because he never played for a big club. Your brain is too daft to understand and ratiocinate why a good player might not play for a big club?
person, lets not even talk about Pele and Garrincha, do you think majority of those players will compare to Zico? Did Zico play for a big club? FOOOOOL!

Hehehe I can't stop laughing at this intellectually bankrupt blockhead! Little does this simpleton know that back then the standards of the leagues in South America was as high as Europe! So a Flamengo,Santos,Corinthians,Independiente,Boca Juniors = Utd,Madrid,Barca,Bayern,Liverpool,Juve
Which meant the great players then never needed to leave Brazil
Walahi I would not stop till I expose your ignorance for the whole world to see

Sagamite: You are a person, answer the question you are running from and look like the person you are:

person, an opposition team would see Okocha and Benni McCarthy's name on a team sheet and the coach would say "Benni is the one we need to stop, he is scary and can change the game"?

Lol @ this peeon! I'm not obliged to answer a question from you. Okocha was so dangerous yet he spent all his playing days at 2nd-3rd rate clubs and won absolutely nothing!!! Only an autistic sack of vomit fluid like you would compare his case to a Zico that won the Copa Libertadores and Intercontinental cup

Sagamite: You are a person!
They won CIV to a cup in a final, according to your moronic logic, does that make them a better team than CIV? What did CIV win at the WC? Zambia won the ANC over CIV?
Apply your moronic logic lets see.

They won CIV at a cup final? Do they have more ANC's than CIV? How can you say they are a better team when they don't even have the records to match? No World Cup appearance for Zambia abi you expect CIV to win the World Cup?

Haha even a f00l is thought to be wise till he opens his mouth. Why not shut up and let's keep assuming you are one instead of opening your mouth and confirming our suspicions

Sagamite: Cretins that expose why democracy is stewpid!

If you can't stand democracy why not go to the jungle! There's more than enough space to contain a bush pig like you

Sagamite: You are a person!

What international trophy has Man City won? That means they are a small club?

What international trophy has Arsenal won? That means they are a small club?

What international trophy has Schalke won? That means they are a small club?

What international trophy has Tottenham won? That means they are a small club?

What international trophy has Bayer Leverkusen won? That means they are a small club?

Lmao at this binary,self-enamored,simple minded piece of shyte

By all ramifications PSG and Fenerbache are small clubs! Tottenham is a small club so is Man City,Arsenal Leverkussen,Schalke! They have no phucking pedigree you !mbecile!! What is their history? Who are their legends? This blathering eediot is busy listing Rave of the moment clubs

In the pantheon of big clubs Madrid,Bayern,Juve,Barca,Milan,Ajax,Man Utd,Benfica,Inter only an unrepentant anuofia like you would list Man City,Schalke and Tottenham among the big clubs

Sagamite: Only when they win something, the next morning, in the mind of a person, they become a big club?

You become a big club by winning and winning consistently. So where's my hors d'oeuvres minion

Sagamite: Bebeto played for Deportivo most of his career, that means he was not a great player?

Cretin, you pull this moronic assessments from your arsse?

Some players have a relatively better career for club than for country and vice-versa but expecting a nimrod like you to understand that is like expecting Ahmadinejad to turn to Christ
When they talk about Brazilian greats in recent years they mention Ronaldo,Romario,Rivaldo,Ronaldinho before Bebeto and can you tell us why you swine!

Sagamite: person, an opposition team would see Okocha and Benni McCarthy's name on a team sheet and the coach would say "Benni is the one we need to stop, he is scary and can change the game"?

Can you see how a question becomes scary to answer when your opinion is moronic?

Okocha was such a beast that no decent club wanted him!! Played no tangible role in any team that won a trophy in an over 15 year career.
If I called you a m0ron I would be insulting m0rons! Your vocab cache is about expansive as that of a mollusc

Sagamite: Moronic cretins that know nothing about football and think it is only the people or clubs that win something that are good.

Zambia is better than CIV because they won the ANC and CIV only came second? And the Zambian players are better players?

What is Zambia's record compared to CIV?? Have they ever been to the World Cup? Doesn't CIV have a Nations Cup title to their name as well?
You must be off your rockers maybe a little schitz

Sagamite: You are a person!

That okele of amala you call a brain must surely be on a loop

Sagamite: And PSG and Fenebache are small clubs?

What is their pedigree in Europe? They are soo big the only International trophy between them doesn't even exist anymore!
When football acolytes are deliberating a simple minded Toulalan like you should be serving drinks and hors d'oeuvres

Sagamite: Cretin, is Wiltord one of the best players ever?

When A-40 says you talk out ur a$$ this is what he means

Sagamite: Foool, an opposition team would see Okocha and Benni McCarthy's name on a team sheet and the coach would say "Benni is the one we need to stop, he is scary and can change the game"?

That's why Okocha could not manage a first rate club in his entire career

Sagamite: You are a person!

Scoring in World Cup is one tremendous achievement! Fooool!

So Wiltord is great because he scored in WC, he scored in Euros and he is part of a team that won both championships. That makes him a great striker and one of the greatest. That is the outcome of the analysis of a person like you.

Go read a book you illiterate and step up your vocab!! "person" "person" is that the new word you learnt at night class today? Bwahahahaha what a half-wit

Sagamite: Top scorer and so what?
The "Great" Benni McCarthy poured shivers down the spine of opposition when they saw his name on the team list? Everyone was saying we need to stop Benni McCarthy in all the clubs he went to? Foool, an opposition team would see Okocha and Benni McCarthy's name on a team sheet and the coach would say "Benni is the one we need to stop, he is scary and can change the game"?

What a m0ron. Okocha ko Okorocha ni! Okocha is so dangerous and sent shivers down the spine of his contemporaries that is why PSG,Fenerbache and phucking Bolton are the biggest clubs he has played for

Sagamite: Foolish ediot, that is what we have when every cretin is said to be entitled to an opinion. Someone being part of a team that won something is great.

Cretin, with ALL the awards and cups Wiltord won, he would never be regarded as a great.

Because Wiltord has scored the most goals in his country's history won the UCL (playing a tangible role to boot) and scored at two World Cup tournaments right?

Learn to stop making ret@rded comparisons you simple minded sack of drool

Sagamite: person, compare McCarthy to the players on the list and tell us which ones Benni would top as someone that sends shivers down the opposition teams and fans.

You talk so much shyte when you open that sewer you call a mouth I'm sure people don't even know which hole to look

mbulela: I can't believe you of all people made the comment above.
you fall my hand bad bad.

Let's be honest that tournament is fast becoming a yawnfest! Boring as hell! Sentiments apart

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Harbaugh-looza
Harbaugh-lathon
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Lmaoooo

Look at this shitbrick called Mancini!! Who leaves his best striker on the bench against the worst team in the league?? The 100million pound question is how many sheikh knobs did he polish to get that job

Riders of Rohan! Da phuck are you keeping your wildcard for

Two brothers meet in the Superbowl on Sunday. Two Bavarian brothers meet this week! May the better Bavarian (me) win

Hahaha mogbe! This lunatic left Dzeko and Nastasic on the bench sha

nateevs: I agree but only partly. Jefferey Bruma has gone backwards and the number of appearances does not always tell the true story of the performance of a defender. Talking about performances, Tomas Kalas is way ahead of any Chelsea defender on loan. Based on performance. The dilemma now is that Kalas has spent most of the season at RB as opposed to last season at CB. So we are currently confused about what should happen as we've bought Wallace Dos Santos who joins in the summer. Considering that we have Azpili and Ivanovic as RBs and now Wallace, Kalas will have to settle for CB where we have JT, Cahill, Luiz, Bran. What happens? perhaps another guy who will probably never play for Chelsea.


I believe there is good reason to Cortouis, Lukaku, DeBryune, Chalobah, McEachran going on loan. These five above every other players on loan have actually gone straight into their respective first teams and are important members of their sides. However minute, there's a portion of their game that evidently would have improved by virtue of the game time they are getting. Something they won't get here. At this point, I can say that apart from Mata, these five are just about good enough to give good competition for the spots they play. There's no way we establish this without them given that game time.

If managers would not be given time to function then running an academy is just "Oju Aye" to be honest

Roland17: *sneaks into Stuttgart's training ground, gives Harnik a very hard knock on his head for conceding a silly second yellow card on sunday*

2 goals down already in the last minute of the game! He wouldn't be the first warrior to fall on his sword

J12: Stories, sentiments. . . If as a midfielder, he has less goals and assists than lampard, then how is he better?
Mikel has a very high pass completion rate, so lets compare him to Xavi then.
Any good midfielder(Scholes, Pirlo, Riquelme, Modric, Gerrard, Ballack, Sneijder etc) will do well in spain/barca's pattern of playing football. However, it takes an extraordinary midfielder to do more than that(Scoring and assisting).

Lampard to Xavi Hernandez Hahaha Ebelebe!! Evils! Ewo! Haram!

Sagamite: Oh, please shut up!

Scoring a goal in WC is now sign of greatness or being part of a team is sign of greatness. Being good at one nations cup is a sign of greatness. I need to include Katongo and Aghahowa in my list ASAP then, Chris.

What utter BS from people that know nothing about football. TEAMS win cups except you are doing what Maradona, Messi, Van Persie, Iniesta, Ronaldo are doing!

This is the kind of simpleton rubbish that would make someone say Amunike won ANC for Nigeria. What utter rubbish!

Maybe Mikel is also great because "he won" Champions league for Chelsea. He was the one that won it for them just for being a regular.

Fck Democracy!

U shut the phuck up!! I get pissed off at ignorant ninjas like u flaunting your handicap on a forum. Why not combine those achievements I listed instead and add em all up (not forgetting he was top scorer too) instead of isolating em! I blame your tunnel-vision or did Katongo and Aghahowa win UCL's? Did they score in 2 World Cups? Or where did u come up with such moronic comparisons?

Sagamite: Let me just focus on one. This is a joke right?

You don't know McCarthy won the UCL? He was a starter oh not spare tyre! And that he was the star of the 98 Nations Cup and scored in two World Cups??
Jokes on u bruh

Jarus: Even Egyptians hardly rate Abu Treika among their Top 10, when they have Hassan Hosam, Ahmed Hassan, and other players of their golden generation.

Yet Abou Trika was voted their best player for 5 years in a row. Hahahaha una no go kill person for this forum oh

Sagamite: Okay, Chris Rock!

Like I said its your list! But based on their talents,laurels and roles for their respective teams in international competitions they should be on any list
McCarthy - UCL winner,(won the golden boot in the league), star of the 98 nations cup scored in two World Cups
Ahmed Hasan - Where do I start with this guy?
2 time nations cup MVP, 4 time African Champion
Abou Trika - One of the finest midfielders ever to come out of Africa! (Highly rated everywhere with trophies to back it up 2 Nations Cup titles with 4 CAF Champions League championships to boot!)

You are the Chris Rock here

@Sagamite
Benni McCarthy and Patrick Mboma should be on this list! Abou Trika and Ahmed Hasan too. Tho its your list sha

semid4lyfe: No space for Frederick Kanoute, Mustapha Hadji, Joel Tiehi, Odartey Lamptey, Lucas Radebe, Edward Ansah?

And you have Joseph Antoine Belle and Thomas N'kono in the Top 10 whilst players like *Rabha Madjer*, Rashidi Yekini, Kanu Nwankwo, Tony Yeboah etc are ranked between 20 - 30?

Ridiculous!

If I were an editor of a sports paper and I ask you to come up with a ranking of African Greatest Footballers and you give me this, I'll toss it into the bin straight.

Mustapha Hadji?? Odartey Lamptey I understand Radebe tho he should be in the list

FBS: Meanwhile, Essien is playing like he is on some African pumped up juice. Dude is everywhere on the pitch for Real Madrid.

Na wash!

ddippset: i must agree that argentina had a very good squad at SA 2010. though they had a bad manager, everything was going very well for them until they met germany. in that germany game they were not outclassed in any way, they conceeded a very early goal form a romero(goal keeper) mistake and they dominated until the last 15 mins or so when germany then killed them on the counter. then argentina had a pretty good squad but now? the squad is still very bad. yes you have got tevez, higuian, aguero, de maria, milito but only one of them should even play alongside messi. what about the defence? what about the attack? definitely full of mediocre players, definitely not a world cup standard.

True they had a bad manager I wouldn't argue that! But up till when they met Germany they where rolling (they even beat this same Germany in a friendly just before the World Cup in Germany) and the manager was not the issue then they had beaten Mexico 3-1 in the previous round and so everyone was expecting Argentina to somehow squeeze through
As for the game. Come on man they where thoroughly outclassed! Its not even funny how bad Germany made them look. Their attack is the best on the planet I maintain
The margin of quality between Germany's defence and Argentina is minute
Neuer was a rookie, Arne Friedrich? Boateng another rookie, Mertesacker is hardly world class so for me I don't buy the whole Argentina had a horrible defence argument! Brazil won the world cup with Roque Junior and an aging Cafu at the back