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uuzba:
Travel to another country.

I'm not in Nigeria, and I do not abuse my spouse like you were raised to do.

The responses show that the average Nigerian man is an abuser.
Smh

Add the official deposition. CSU REPRESENTATIVE SAID FROM THE UNIVERSITY'S WEBSITE

Third-party vendors Agbado liars come and read

EmperorCaesar:
I learnt this man is a prof


Omo...he is very much daft

CSU claimed third party vendors can help create a replacement certificate, so if BAT actually got it through that means, hows that a case of forgery?

Liar... CSU said otherwise....
They said replacement certificates are to he ordered from the University's website and prepared by them.

Afamed:
You have suddenly abandoned 25% votes in FCT?

Unrelated... Focus on the message

Summary: Tinubu forged his certificate.

PassingShot:
Una be olodo who have deliberately decided to be unfortunate in life.

CSU simply confirmed BAT was their student, graduated with honours, as first among equals.

CSU allows licensed vendors to produce replacement certificates for their past graduates and they normally do not authenticate such docs because the transcript is what's more important and valued in the USA.

And the unique identifier, the social security number confirms EVERY GADDEM THING Tinubu has said.

It sucks to be headless mob. They can't reason independently

Liar...

CSU replacement certificates are ordered from the University's website according to their representative's testimony

gabbytabby:
How can one authenticate something they have not seen.

Common sense is not so common.

His font, signatories and dates put together, does not match any of the certificates CSU has ever issued.

This was the testimony of CSU representative. This is the end of discussion

gabbytabby:
Same social security no so same unique identifier so same person.

The SSN was never confirmed by the school.... I read every wording of the deposition. They never said it belongs to a male Tinubu or a female Tinubu

gabbytabby:
Go and read the PEPT judgement

Can you post the extract of what you mentioned?

lamentor78:
Stop being dumb, yes he might have gotten replacement from a third party, but how wont you graduate from a school and you have your picture in their annual graduation book.

Stop being silly.

Let them take their matter to court , no manner of ranting on nairaland will solve this problem

Very silly argument you made. CSU representative couldn't confirm BAT is the same Bola Tinubu who attended CSU and never reffered to any unimportant year book too

gabbytabby:
I guess the issue is now with his sex. The social security no confirm this.

Una just are so desperate and now clutching at straws like a mad lunatic.

If you have a cousin whose gender and date of birth differs from yours but you bear same name, does that mean her certificate is yours?

If your answer is no, stop defending what even attorneys can't defend

gabbytabby:
In law there must be a misrepresentation and intention to defraud.

Really? Please post the section of the constitution that states this

gabbytabby:
Una be the liars and forgers.

One minute and I'll post the screenshot...

I'm sorry if it makes you mad

@gabbytabby here you go.

CSU representative did not confirm that BAT was the same Bola Tinubu who attended CSU

gabbytabby:
The koko of the matter is did he attend and graduate CSU and the answer is yes he did.

Does these fulfill the educational requirements for him to be voted for yes

Mischief makers can continue wailing

Don't present your certificate when seeking admission or employment and see if you will accepted...

BTW, CSU representative confirmed that they only made an assumption that BAT is same female Bola Tinubu...

They ain't certain he is same person.

Read the deposition yourself....

Identity fraud still wraps around your druglord's head like turban

Depriest2020:
Jamb doesn't have third party agent agreement but CSU does.

Liar. CSU representative said otherwise.

Find attached

okoro:
the OP is a Ibo

Yes. CSU representative is Ibo too.

No one falls for your narrative anymore. The Ibo thing is no longer selling.

excel101:
Morons like you are being manipulated freely like remote.

For your kind reference... Stop being manipulated by APC lying machines...

Speak to yourself...

joyandfaith:
Vendors registered with the university and must be exact copy. Vendors would verify record before issuing replacement.

Don't even believe the propaganda machines. The school's representative said replacement certificates are ordered by filling the form on the University's website... NOT THIRD-PARTY WEBSITE...

SCREENSHOT OF DEPOSITION IS ATTACHED TO MY POST...

THIRD-PARTY vendor story is a big lie

Stoplying:
If they "swore in a court of law" then they lied in a court of law. Their form for replacement of lost diplomas doesn't make any room for "3rd party vendors".

They even never swore to the lies APC is spreading.

Above is screenshot of the undiluted transcript of the deposition available in public space.

CSU have forms on its website for such requests.

excel101:
Shut that you tonsil filled mouth. What do you know about falsehood

Yes I will...

CSU representative said so not I...

Now pour your frustration on the CSU representative...

I attached screenshot from the deposition...

Point out the lie in my statement.

Raskimonojendor:
Post the full transcript.

I posted unedited screenshot from the deposition transcript available in public space and you posted a rephrased propaganda message in return...

https://www.scribd.com/document/675520235/Atiku-Abubakar-vs-CSU-Legal-Deposition-UNCERTIFIED-COPY

Link to the transcript of the deposition...

Read and stop spreading falsehood

FreeStuffsNG:
Tinubu’s native intelligence

Tunji Ajibade
21 January 2022

Senator Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the former Lagos State governor and National Leader of the All Progressives Congress, took the ‘hot seat’ opposite journalists recently. That was after he visited the President, Major General Muhammadu Buhari (retd.), to notify him of his decision to contest for the highest office in the land. Certainly, fellow journalists would make the most of this opportunity by asking the former governor all the questions they had in mind. So I was keen to see how the presidential hopeful would respond, not the politics that was core to the interaction.

This isn’t the first time I’ve written on how public figures conduct themselves during interviews, press briefings and personal interactions. I have a long list: cabinet ministers, diplomats, government spokespersons, judges of the International Court at the Hague, academics, etc. The last one was the interview the Minister of Finance, Budget and Planning, Zainab Ahmed, gave the BBC (“BBC 0, Nigeria 4”, July 8, 2021). People may concentrate on what public figures say and the obvious issues they address. I concentrate on the manner they say things, the mentality behind what they say as well as what they don’t say, checking how they come across in the process.

I do this because I enjoy reading people beyond the surface, linking their words and gestures to what they can do or not do. I also link the past to the present, recalling other personalities and issues that are similar or dissimilar, while mentally processing occurrences in the course of an interview at those different levels stated. This goes on even as I manage to follow what the personality before me is saying. I have severally noted such situations on this page but there’s a specific example I like to restate here.

After I completed my doctorate programme, I wrote a piece about my experiences regarding my political science professors. There was one in particular who was very quiet. When he talked, the person two seats away from him might not hear so I learnt early to pay full attention and listen closely to every word he uttered, digesting it carefully. This professor never showed emotion as most people do but based on my past experiences I could place him in a category. I sensed what would be manifested by a professor who was infinitely calm. Later, I discovered to my surprise that my colleagues didn’t notice what I noticed. They didn’t read the mind behind the man as I did. They weren’t matching the disposition of the professor in question to what he potentially could do or not do.

This surprised me the more for the simple reason that most of my colleagues had their first and second degrees in the same department. Yet, I came in for this peak of an academic programme but saw and linked what they never did with this professor. They never read him beyond what he said in class. There was this particular occasion when we were seated around the table with the professor I refer to. He commented on some issues. As he did, I digested what he was saying beyond the setting in which we were. I thought about the mentality behind it and what this professor could do, even as I managed to keep my mind on what he continued to say.

Days later, my colleagues raised the issues discussed during the previous encounter. They were saying something different from what the professor said. I found this shocking. How could all of us have listened and everyone else didn’t hear him right? I stated what the professor said. My colleagues disagreed and said they would persuade the professor to change his mind even if I was right. I said from what I read of the man he would be firm and nothing would make him change his mind. I left them, insisting I wouldn’t go with them to be part of an effort in futility. Later, I was informed that the professor told them that what I said was exactly what he had said. As for changing his mind over the issue in contention, he didn’t. I was certain he wouldn’t; quiet, calm people aren’t stupid, they have their strengths too. Whoever rates them low does so at his own peril.

As I watched the former Lagos State governor in the course of his interaction with journalists, his careful selection of words and calm response indicated to me that he was well aware that journalists had come with a barrage of questions. He was aware that they would raise issues that, if not carefully navigated, might be presented later in a sensational and misrepresented manner. We know what such colourful headlines would look like. That time, I noticed that Tinubu was prepared for tricky questions in a manner a Yoruba elder, who plays the ayo board game, would prepare ahead for a clever younger player. The politician deployed all the native intelligence tactics he had in his arsenal. I thought it was the best way he could go about that interview without hitches. For we all know the public speculations that have trailed his next political move. So, if fellow journalists didn’t ask all the questions, I would have pointed it out here. But they did and the politician they confronted, to me, appeared prepared to outmanoeuvre them on their own turf.

That interview session was one that could get any politician enmeshed in more controversies. It could have raised more questions than answers. But the manner Tinubu went about it somewhat calmed nerves, laid pertinent questions to rest, and the political space has become less restive thereafter. This was to the credit of the man at the centre of the issue at hand. He didn’t get involved in the semantics that some questions could generate and neither did he respond to delicate questions at the sometimes shallow argumentative level from which some other less experienced politician might.

Tinubu took each question in the manner I’ve always advocated public figures should, i.e. no question from a journalist is stupid, rather responding to it in a polished manner is an opportunity to persuasively rubbish the arguments of critics. That time, Tinubu went to the root of what he needed to provide responses to. That’s informed by wisdom, the native intelligence that tactful elderly Africans often deploy whenever clever young men face them. I’ve witnessed such in my interactions with many elders, so I recognised that Tinubu deployed it at the time he took questions from journalists.

How did Tinubu display native intelligence at that time? He started by informing the president of what he planned to do. That’s a masterstroke; the right place to start. It’s the right place to start for the huge publicity it attracted, for the many birds killed with just one stone, the multi-layered questions the visit to the president subtly provided answers to. As I watched him speak, I thought of the level of wisdom that made him conclude that he needed to start the consultations for his next political move at the highest seat of government. I also thought about the grand strategy, which informed his outings generally, and I came to the conclusion that we’re talking about a seasoned political strategist who happens to be contesting for the highest seat in the land himself.

Among the questions he was asked, I found the one about a kingmaker wanting to become king interesting. His response to it was for me the signature display of Tinubu’s native intelligence; it’s akin to a deft move in an ayo board contest that would easily have silenced the most voluble and skilful opponent. Offering just any kind of response that time would have led to an unending round of questions, creating more controversy. But he said he had never seen the cap of a kingmaker. He never saw any rule book where it was stated that a kingmaker-politician should not become king. I’m impressed when people respond to questions this way. In the process, he laid to rest a debate that’s neither here nor there where politicking and the rights of any Nigerian to contest for political office are concerned. I like to exercise native intelligence like Tinubu did when I grew up.

https://punchng.com/tinubus-native-intelligence/

Cc Seun Mynd44 Lalasticlala

Native intelligence of a certified fraud... Smh

Find attached below. Stop your "Third Party Vendors" lying machines

PoliteActivist:
So what's the point? Even if Tinubu were caught with drugs at the airport, the SC will still not remove him.
So, what exactly is the point?

The point is to raise our voices against falsehood. Start by doing so.

Roboto11:
Chicago state University is the same as University of Chicago to.you abi?

Not same... I think the person you mentioned made some error with the name of the institution but that doesn't change the fact that CSU replacement certificates have to be ordered from CSU website by filling the linked form..

This ain't my words. They are from the horse's mouth.

Look through the transcript of the deposition I sent

CSU has a form for ordering replacement certificates that can be accessed on their website ...

Their certificates are not ordered from Third Party Vendors as claimed by Tinubu's lying machines...

Find attached transcript of the deposition...

CSU representative confirmed the process for getting a replacement certificate...

Stop telling lies...
Stop spreading falsehood

Cc Seun Mynd44 Lalasticlala

Raskimonojendor:
The CSU register said that you can get a replacement certificate for a 3rd party vendor.

A thread opened by an hardcore Zombi-dient on Nairaland also confirms that.

https://www.nairaland.com/7865010/replacement-diplomas-done-outside-vendors

Please show me where the CSU representative made this comment.

The transcript from the deposition says otherwise...

Find attached and stop spreading falsehood.

StOla:
Not a lot of Nigerians, the CSU registrar said so.

And many confirmed it with different schools in the USA, even with an Ivy League school like Brown's University.

But trying to educate someone who has insisted he must remain ignorant, is the reason why many foreign countries don't regard Nigerian education.

Even with your A1 qualification in O'levels English or even a 1st class Bachelor's in English, you will still be expected to sit for IELTS or TOEFL for further education or migration to a top tier English speaking country.

Nigerian doctors have to pass exams in South Africa and Australia before they are allowed to practise there.

You and many like you are an indictment on Nigerian education.

Idiocy is the new cool in Nigeria and Nigerians will pay a heavy price for their idiocy.

Gone are the days I used to feel cheated working in a multinational firm that employs Engineering HND of 5yrs post O'levels, and Engineering Bachelor's of 5yrs post O'levels. Meanwhile, Ghanaians and Kenyans and Americans and Britons working in the same company got the same respective roles with 3yrs Engineering HND post O'levels and 4yrs Engineering Bachelor's post O'levels.

We keep proving we need more time to understand what others need less time for, as though we have a comprehension handicap.

Maybe our education in Nigeria is truly abysmal.

Lies...

Attached is a transcript of CSU representative's deposition.

Alumni must apply using the form on the institution's website and the school does thorough vetting afterwards before replacement certificates are provided.

Attached is from the horse's mouth... Stop the propaganda...
Stop the lies...

Zxcvbnmghtr:
Especially from David Hundeyin and his boys.

I didn't expect a reasonable response from Third Party Vendors people...

CSU goes through a vetting process before replacing certificates.
This was confirmed by CSU representative during the deposition. Find attached...

AllenSpencer:
You people should go and rest and stop composing gibberish!

I think you should look through the attachments and attack the testimony of the CSU representative...

Point out the rubbish in what I posted... Does it differ from the deposition?

PoliteActivist:
The "rotten driggie" will be your president for the next 8 years (if he stays alive) so better get used to it.
Even if it was found he never attended CSU our corrupt and partisan SC still would not have removed him.

Unfortunately, he will rule just you. You ought to be crying about what you just typed... You should be worried that Nigeria promotes corrupt and fraudulent people

"Third Party Vendors" people have been trying to sell a propaganda as rotten as the druggie they selected for Nigeria...

"Third Party Vendors" people forgot to mention that CSU representative confirmed that replacement certificates must have original signatures of the president at time of replacement and the original CSU logo at that time too.

The certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC does not meet this criteria... It was forged.

Attached is the process for replacement of CSU certificates as seen from the transcript of the deposition.

Stop spreading falsehood.

Seun, please push to front page and stand for the truth.
Please mention the Mods... I don't know their names.

Cc Seun Mynd44 Lalasticlala