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40mins... Still goaless

throw in to d eaglets
the eaglets are pressing hard but d civ defence dey tight oooo

38minutes.... Civ on d counter but dispossed by d eaglets, throw in to d civ

am feeling dis eaglets, see knocking, good work from d coaches...eaglets dey win dis match

femi4: Now, NTAi stopped showing the match, but the match is still ON on NTA24 and NTA10. Are they trying to frustrate dstv users?

abeg help me ask dem oooooo, well watching it on nta10

dis civ guys be old guys ooooo, but dis eaglets dey play pass dem, still goaless

Often times cos of how lovely our dreams and aspirations are, we enjoy telling people about it and at d long run dose dreams dont materialise and if at all it wud, we may have to go in d way of joseph whose dreams made his brothers to hate him and had to pass thru the pit, potiphar's, prison then to d palace, but the truth is ow many of us can actually endure dat much? Ow abt saul, his father's donkey was missing and the prophet told him he wud become d king, and wen his uncle asked him wat did d prophet say, the bible says he said d ass will be found but as for d matter of d kingdom he kept to himself 1samuel10:15-16, the grace to always kip quiet abt d dreams until dey materialise we receive IJN, amen, and every dream dat has bin lost as a result of telling pple, we receive dem back and they will come to pass IJN, amen.maranatha...He cometh soon.

Putting the past behind us its not always easy cos the past makes us static, it makes us ask questns like ow did it happen?, i shudnt av done it dat way,....u kip asking questns dat u probably mite neva get an answer and if at all u do, it cant reverse d damage, so instead of dwelling on d past that makes u move in a confined axis without making progress, yy not just dump the past and move on,our fear is always where do we start frm?, hope the same thunder will not strike d second time, if its about a broken relationship,ur fear is can i get someone better, ....but of a truth there is always someone better. Make up ur mind to move on frm dose problems of d past and i assure with the help of d Holyspirit, ur peace will be restored and u will do great xploits again and if dere is anything u nid frm d past its just d xperience and d lesson learnt, STAND UP AND BID GUD BYE TO D PAST. Maranatha...He cometh soon.

Forgivess is letting go of bitterness and grudges, there is dis story abt a boy whose mother was dying on d sick bed cos dere was no money to treat her, then he ran to his uncle who was rich for help and d uncle said he actually had d amount needed but cant release it cos its for a project and dat besides, d mothe cant die, he shud not worry...eventually she died and he felt so bad, years later, d boy has now become a man and dis same uncle was critically ill in d hospital and d kids ran to him and said he shud pls help dem with money cos dere father is dying, and d exact amount they need was what he has and was actually going to pay for a land...ley me ask, would u av dropped d money or take ur own pound of flesh?...well he dropped d money cos he knew trying to revenge wont bring back d dead and he can always work to buy anoda land next time., are u abt taking ur own pound of flesh?, yy not let go and let God, wen u do, u xperience healing of wounds and peace of mind.happy sunday...maranatha...He cometh soon.

Who are you? Does your environment determines u or u determine ur environment? There is dis story abt a cub who grew among lambs, they move abt 2geda and each time they get 2 a river,on d oda side of d river, d lion roars and the lambs and d cub will run cos they have bin told dat the lion its an enemy, den dere was dis day, d cub has now become a lion and he went to d river with d rams and it looked into d water and observed dat wat makes dem run its wat he is seeing in d water, at first he runs and decided to come back, den d lion on d oda side saw him and roars and d rams ran away and d lion roars back and den crosses 2 d oda side and neva went back to d rams cos that wasnt where he belongs,we are where we are cos we are yet to discover ourselves and i pray that God will open our eyes to see and discover who we are IJN, amen.maranatha...He cometh soon.

obadiah777: THIS FOOL IS CRAZY. 'KEEP CONFESSING POSITIVE THOUGHTS' AND GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN. WHAT ARE YA ? A HIPPY ? CRAZY NEGRO

obadiah, sure good things will happen and they are already happening, so cos am not on d same page with u now means u av to call me names, and u call urself a xtian? Well by dere fruits we shall know dem...i luv u with d luv of Christ, ow is d day going with u?

frank3.16:
i saw my self pickin lots of cashew nuts in an uncle's house. this is a man that used to love me and somehow we fell apart (for something i might have said but he didnt tell me, well his wife had a hand), now in the dream it was his house but not an environment i know, besides he wasn't mad at me in the dream, but i rmembr i was uncomfortable around the wife in the dream

pls interpret, tanx

cashew nut its d seed dat is planted to bring forth cashew, so picking them in ur uncle's house and d fact that u are no longer there is as good as the fruitfulness u took to that house, you are taking them back and ur uncle cant help it but not happy with d wife cos maybe she convinced him to make u guys av issues and now dey are regretting.tanx and God bless u.

How do we react to situations, do we kip complaining,do we kip saying God why me, or even seek pity from people or we react like the shunamite woman in 2kings4:1-37, despite her son's death and d husband and gehazi asked wat was wrong with her, she kept saying all is well, she had a focus, until she got to Elisha, she kept saying all is well and we know dat God was able to reverse d irreversible in her life...often times we kip confessing negatives in that situatn and we kip getting negative results, u are a product of ur confession, why not change gear 2day and begin to speak positives,solutions into dose issues and the God dat reverses situatns will reverse dose situatns for good IJN, amen. Maranatha...He cometh soon.

enilove: frosbel,

I just want you to know that there are somethings you do not have knowledge of ,and which you claim to know.
Lets consider you statement that, the soul of maln is without body parts;that it is without interior nor exterior and that it does not have a tongue & eyes.

Psalm 7:2 "Lest he tear my soul like a lion,rendering it in pieces...." If soul does not have parts ,how can it be torn in pieces?

A man has a body ,soul and spirit.When someone dies,it is the body that returns to dust not the soul and the spirit.

We are created in the image of God,and God does not have a physical body made of dust, but a spiritual body.So every human being at death will become a spirit soul without physical body. This spirit can be seen and it has eyes and brain and tongues more functional than it was in the body made of dust.
God is a Spirit and has a Spiritual body that appeared to Moses in Exodus 33:23. This reads," And I will take away mine hand and thou shalt see my back parts,but my face thall not be seen".
This means that the rich man in hell has eyes and tongues and brains intact,as Jesus said.

Demons are spirits,still they can talk and feel pains. Likewise a dead person,who will drop the body and bocome a spirit being.

A soul has eyes and everything that the human form has. God has a soul( Judges 10:16) . Since God have eyes and mouth,why do you think the soul of Lazarus in hell will not have eyes and tongues?
Infact,the real person in us is the soul ,not the body of dust or the physical body.
Genesis 2:7 says" And God formed man of the dust of the ground ,& breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; & man bcame a LIVING SOUL. Not a living body.
When you are sleeping and dreams that you are driving,it is not the physical eyes, that is closed in bed, you use in driving but the spiritual eyes of the soul in you.When you dream,it is your soul and spirit that are in action not the physical body, which is sleeping or resting.

As you requested, this is to kindly tell you how a soul can have a complete body with hands to touch and tongues to taste.

Hell is real,Jesus said so, & it is so.

God bless you, ur explanation settles it all, now its obvious that wat we now do on nairaland religious sectn was wat the early xtians were doing which brot abt proliferatn of churches, lets try to see things d way bible sees it, by d time we start applying logic or head knowledge, we miss it and we lead pple astray...the letter killeth and d spirit giveth life

frosbel: Let us use our brains for a moment.

If this was speaking of a literal person burning in a place called HELL, can you kindly tell me how a soul can have a body complete with hands to touch and tongue to taste ?

Jesus made this statement:

"Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have." - Luke 24:39

Going back to Genesis, we know from the manufacture of the product which is called man, that there were only 2 ingredients involved , Dust and Breath of life. The dust was formed into a body while the breath of life gave life to that body. So I am a bit perplexed as to what Body is burning in HELL when the body has returned to Dust.

A MAN has ONE body not THREE bodies ( spirit, soul and body ) , and this body is animated with the breath of life into a living soul , but becomes a dead body when the breath of life returns back to GOD.

I am really confused at your inability to grasp simple logic with regard to this point.

Solomon , Job and David said that when a person dies, their body returns to the dust and God takes their breath away or in the case of Solomon the spirit returns to GOD. So what exactly is in hell under torment ?

You cannot hinge a doctrine on ONLY one scripture, this is poor bible study and borders on dishonesty.

I leave you guys with your tradition and error but will continue to help others gain freedom.

a ghost or spirit have body psalms 104 vs 4, thank u sir

@frosbel, perhaps u started this thread cos of my response on d other thread abt hell fire, well d story of lazarus and the rich man isnt a parable cos if it were so, Jesus would av said so, and u said talked abt d distance btw heaven and hell, i bliv in d things of d spirit, distance isnt a barrier...and again, i dont buy dis idea of we insulting ourselves if we dont agree on issues, we are xtians and matured, would Jesus insult if He were to be in our shoes, my advice, thanx and God bless.

ijawkid: Naaa........the teaching that billions of people would be in a thermo nuclear fire burning literally for all eternity is not supported by the scriptures.......

ow abt lazarus and d rich man?

its direct sales agent and the pay is 25k per month with a target of about either 5 or 7million naira per month, if u dont meet ur target, u mite not even be paid, well the choice is yours...cheers

Apostle paul in 2cor.12:7-9, asked God 3times to take away the thorn in His flesh but d Lord did not and God told him my grace is made perfect in ur weakness, so same thing is applicable to us that when we ask God for things and we are not getting them or will neva get them, during that period, its always as if our life depends on it,periods such as losing a loved one, heart breaks, failure, depression, out of job.... its as if without a reversal we cant move further...now pause, ponder on those periods, were u indeed able to move further or not am sure u just said, i did moved on...what kept u during dose periods...His Grace did, and perhaps you are passing thru ur own storms and its like u wont sail thru if d storm doesnt stop now, just tap into d grace and with time u will get to d shore..lets appreciate God dis day for His grace has indeed kept us this far..thank u Jesus for ur grace. Maranatha...He cometh soon.

mygirrl: Yes you are right my whole has been very rough right from when I was a very very little child. I want to serve God. When I am in the house of God I feel very happy. There are times when I have been so close to God that I will decree a thing and it will come to pass, but it feels as if when I'm getting there somehow something pulls me back. It has been like this for some time. I think I will go to MFM

it goes beyond mfm, as long as dere is disconnection btw u and God, dere will always be a problem, d dream is a warning, all dey need is a loophole and dey strike again, so live a correct life, go for d deliverance since u bliv u can get delivered in mfm, but the truth is stay connected to God, whoeva d son of man sets free, shall be free indeed.God bless u.

Amen OP.
God is faithful who has promised and He will do
it.
Thank you
thank u ma

well, its as if u had a rough past and somebody will be used as a bait to make u go back to your vomit, thank God you u didnt accept her, and thank God for where u are now but know that there is a monitoring spirit looking for loopholes to attack, so always stay connected to Christ , remember wat 2tim.2:19 says. As for going to pastors becareful, u can deliver urself bt praying to God and bette still get brethren to pray with u or stand in d gap for u, u can as well pray with isaiah49:24-26, obadiah 17. God bless you

You are praying and its as if dere are no answers,u knocked and no door is opening, u are seeking and nothing is bin found, depression has now become a companion, d tears have stopped flowing cos no more water in d lacrimal/tear gland, now u seek d end and d end is saying ur time is not now, then know that God is allowing you to go thru dis phase cos He knows u can handle it and come out strong cos somebody will hear ur testimonies moments afta now and say if u can pull thru the mess of den dat is now a message 2day, then he can pull thru also and av more faith in God. God is banking on u to make Him proud like Job cos d storm wil soon be over, dont compromise. Maranatha...He cometh soon.

Often times we make people smile, yet our tears arent dried, we help pple to get back to there feet, yet we are still on d floor, we go xtra miles with pple yet nobody goes a mile with us, and we keep asking, God are u there or av u abandoned me, the truth is NO.,He sees and knows wat we are going thru, dis isnt the time to quit, dere are some pple who are standing in d gap 4 u 2, though u may not know,kip doing dose gud stuff, sooner than u think lines will fall in pleasnt places again, prov.11:25b says He dat refreshes others will himself be refreshed.gudmorning.maranatha...He cometh soon.

Av u ever wondered why wine wud finish at d wedding of cana while Jesus and His disciples were dere, the mother came to Him and said they have no more wine and He told her dat His time hasnt come and d mother told his disciples,whateve He says u shud do, do and we know d rest of d story, so the challenges in our careers, homes, lives...are there cos we carry d solution to solving them and I pray dat the right formula we need to solve dis challenges we receive IJN,amen. Av a blessed and fruitful week. Maranatha...He cometh soon.

Goshen360: @ OP,

Now my stand on 'fornication'.

Religion had defined fornication as sexxual activity between singles (unmarried) ONLY while adultery as sexxual act outside of marriage other than your spouse. That definition is FALSE! We will go into adultery as we go along but let's limit it to fornication as per the OP.

My stand from my study is, fornication is or includes a whole range of sexxual misconduct not connected to single\unmarried persons ONLY but includes married person(s) who engages in adultery, incest, idolatry, lust, harl.otry or who.re\wh.ore.monger(s), pros.titu.tion, best.iality, homo.sex.ual\lesbia.nism etc depending on the context as used in scriptures.

Now, a single\unmarried person CAN commit fornication depending on any of the above mentioned that he\she engages in BUT the whole definition and meaning of 'fornication' DOES NOT APPLY TO OR EXTEND TO two committed singles who are 'faithful' to one another, committed to marrying one another, love one another and intend to spend the rest of their lives with one another having sort approval from both parents even though they haven't gone through the 'ceremonial' or 'formalized' wedding yet.

CAUTION: Before it gets to this stage, ONE MUST BE ABSOLUTELY SURE THIS IS THE MAN OR THIS IS THE WOMAN FOR HIM\HER otherwise, such will be committing fornication by the act of being a who.re or a who.re.mon.ger. This is because, the act of truly being married is already concluded in their heart and the marriage is just a mere ceremony as the prove of what took place in their heart. I believe God who sees the heart already sees them as married just the ceremony to formalize them. Hence, I do not see these two people committing fornication as the definition and meanings of fornication from scriptures does not extend to them.

That's my stand and we can begin to expand on the above.

sir how are u so sure they will get married, what if one party says he is no longer interested, then it means one party is guilty of fornicatn while the other is not, how come paul says...marriage bed undefiled,thanx.

There was dis drama we acted in my church abt a king and a loyal servant, the servant wil always tel dis king abt the wonders of God...dere was dis day they went for hunting and an animal attacked d king and cut one of his fingers, the servant looked at d king and said thank God the animal only attacked d finger and not kill d king, outof annoyance d king ordered dat d servant be put in d dungeon,then anoda time d king was going on a visit and marauders attacked him and his entourage and afta dat they killed all of dem and the king was spared cos he only had 9 fingers, wen he got back to palace, he ordered for d release of d servant and he asked d servant yy his God allowed him to be kept in d dungeon, he now told him dat if he was not in d dungeon, he would av bin killed too cos he wud av bin part of d trip and he has 10 fingers, so cos God allowed it to spare his life and also allowed d animal to cut one of d king's fingers to spare his life too. The reason yy some things are not working well now is cos God knows dey mite to our detriment 2moro, relax cos He makes everything beautiful in His time.maranatha...He cometh soon.

what is ur pastor's attitude towards drama ministry in your church

obadiah777: SHUT YOUR AZZ UP. IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT IS BEEN SAID SCOOT ON OVER TO OTHER THREADS.

hmmm, using vulgar words as a christian, now i doubt if u are a xtian, perhaps u feel u know and u know nothing, u are just like one guy in my univ. days, preaching heresy but where is he 2day, its obvious u are not of God and even ur teaching depicts that...God help u

JeSoul: First & last caution. Respect the rules of the forum or this thread will be locked and offenders banned. Thanks.

i will suggest u lock it cos its not achieveing its aim and am surprised how bible scholars on dis forum will be insulting pple cos they are not agreeing with their opinion, it is well o.

Calculus12: This is not whether someone is teaching heresy. Its about who gave the authority to those who condemn him? If u go through Obadiah's teaching, he quotes d bible and gives his interpretation based on his quotes. If u condemn his interpretation, what gives u d right to do that? And why should we accept d interpretation u or someone else gives? Interpretation is what is under scrutiny here and not whether his quotes are wrong.

but sir, wat we get here can either take us out of d pit or kip us in d pit 4eva, so many pple are coming here to know d truth and not everybody has d ability to filter the truth from lies based on interpreting d word, so i will suggest we act like d berean xtians and we act like dat, we come back here to say it how it shud be, i.e, he was saying reincarnatn is scriptural, so where do u put heb.9:27, saying dat noah acct of d flood was just figure of speech, it neva happened is a good as saying d bible is just anoda things fall apart(literature text), well i feel we shud always ask ourselves dis, if Jesus were to be in my shoes, how wud He interptrete d scriptures. God bless u sir.
N.b am not for or against obadiah or goshen

obadiah777: LISTEN HERE YOU BELLIGERENT REPROBATE. READ THE SCRIPTURES I GAVE YOU AND SEE IF YOUR SPIRIT ACCEPTS IT. LEARN TO STFU SOMETIMES. YOU HAVE NOTHING IMPORTANT TO SAY.

av read it and i know it and it has nothing to do with reincarnatn, besides a prophet of God telling someone to stfu, hmmm and u will say u are christ like abi?, i wont join words with u cos my bible didnt train to insult but it teaches me to correct in love, u can still be redeemed, christians in d house, lets act like stephen dat while bin stoned to death still prayed for his persecutors and d prayer brot abt apostle paul, lets kip praying for obadiah777. Love ur neigbhour as urself.