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agbameta: This illiterate said Ogun state is poor, but in the article he posted up there, Ogun is one of the six richest states in Nigeria.


Obviously, he's one of the many confused illiterates, hate predisposed dullards from the other side of the Niger..

You hediot only if you would go and read the entire thread. Your confused Yoruba brothers posted fake data which screwed them up. Of course Ogun should not be poor but Oyo and Osun should be and are.

This is the true state of the economy in Nigeria not the fake Osun and Oyo data.

Lagos, six others control 90% of Nigeria’s cash transactions – CBN
Our Reporter May 27, 2013 1 Comment »
Lagos, six others control 90% of Nigeria’s cash transactions – CBN

By AMECHI OGBONNA

The Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) last week hinted that Lagos and six other states control about 90 per cent of cash transactions in the country. The six other states listed as recording high velocity of cash transaction, according to the apex bank, are Rivers, Anambra, Abia, Kano, Ogun and the Federal Capital Territory (FCT).

The CBN Deputy Governor, Operations, Mr. Tunde Lemo, who disclosed this while defending the choice of centres for the second phase of the cashless policy implementation, said it was the reason the six states were being chosen for the next stage of the project billed to kick-off on July 1, this year.

While acknowledging the numerous challenges the CBN and the Bankers Committee have encountered with the cashless project including interconnectivity in some of the clusters, Lemo assured that most of them are currently being addressed through the feedback from stakeholders.

Lemo said that besides the use of alternative channels of transactions such as Point of Sales (PoS), the cashless project would be driven through the telephone, since Nigeria is second largest user of mobile phone users in sub Saharan Africa after South Africa, which is also the largest economy in the region.

The Deputy Governor who observed that the cashless policy was successful in Lagos, pointed out that the number of Point of Sale (PoS) machines in the city rose significantly from about 5,000 when the policy took off last year, to over 150,000 today.

“Though we still have a few challenges, if I look back, I really would say that we have done a lot to transform the payment system in Lagos through PoS,” he said.

The cashless policy, which implementation began in Lagos in January, last year, is aimed at reducing the dominance of cash in the system. The policy specifies penal charges for individuals and corporate organizations that want to withdraw or lodge cash above prescribed limits.

Under the policy, the CBN pegged the daily cumulative cash withdrawal or deposit limit for individual accounts at N500,000 per day and N3 million per day for corporate accounts.

There is no money in Oyo and Osun and even Aregbe confirmed it (per Osun).

Why we can’t tax Osun people, by Aregbesola
By Adesoji Adeniyi 28/11/2011 01:10:00
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Osun State Governor Rauf Aregbesola at the weekend explained why his administration has refused to tax the people.

Aregbesola said his people are very poor and tax would be an unnecessary burden on them.

He spoke at the Banquet Hall of the State House in Osogbo, the state capital, during a dinner with representatives of various financial institutions.

The dinner was part of activities marking the one year anniversary of the Aregbesola administration in office.

The governor urged the institutions to assist in eradicating poverty in the state, assuring them of security and a business friendly environment.

He solicited for funds to finance capital projects and programmes that would improve the state’s economy.

Aregbesola said: “I am in Osun State to eradicate poverty. If you are talking about naked poverty, it is here in the state. We can not tax anybody here because we do not want them to die.

“Are we going to tax people waiting to die? We were able to save 13 million in the last year, not through tax, but by blocking leakages in the system. So you bankers have no choice than to help us deliver good governance to the people. We need your support to eradicate poverty.

“I am amused about the uninformed comments of our predecessor in office about the finances of the state. They are confused and cannot comprehend what we are doing because they are not financially literate.

“We have the vision, passion and action. I am here to change the fate of the black man through the various programmes and projects of our unusual and unconventional government.

“My predecessor left the state’s account in a bad state. We met a suffocating loan of N18.3 billion, which the Olagunsoye Oyinlola administration secured in an unprofessional manner.

“But within a year in office, my administration was able to increase the Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) of the state from N300 million to N600 million and pay the loan through the access of N25 million bond from the bank, with the monthly servicing of less than N100 million, instead of the N800 million used to service the former loan.”

The governor said his administration does not wait for the federal allocation before it pays its workers, adding that any state waiting for it is doomed.

He said states rejected the October allocation because of President Goodluck Jonathan’s decision to deduct some amount from it for the creation of Sovereign Wealth.

Aregbesola said nobody has the right to deduct from any state’s allocation without the governor’s consent.

He advised state governments to exploit other avenues for generating revenue.

Commissioner for Finance, Economic Planning and Budgeting, Dr. wale Bolorunduro said the government plans to increase the IGR to N1 billion next year.

On incessant bank robberies in the state, Bolorunduro said the government has collaborated with security agencies to forestall a recurrence. He said the governor has ordered for five Armoured Personnel Carriers (APCs) and established a security trust fund to combat the menace.

Many of the bank executives acknowledged the governor’s passion for development and promised to support his administration.

They include: Ayo Abina, Skye Bank; Elias Akenzua, Zenith Bank; Akinleye Ogunleye, Diamond Bank; and Boyin Oladokun, Unity Bank.


As did Hakeem Jamiu

Emerging trend of social almajiri in Yorubaland
By Hakeem Jamiu

There is a social malaise which is gradually creeping into the lexicon of Yorubaland and this is the ugly spectre of hungry children begging for food and alms at social events. Older women are equally not left out in this ugly but strange practice in Yorubaland. It is strange in Yorubaland because the concept of almajiri which simply means street urchin is common in the Northern part of the country. Yorubas use to refer derisively to anybody soliciting for arms in Yorubaland in the olden days as almajiri. The almajiri of the North are usually children between the age bracket of 7 and 20 in most cases. Almajiris are so desperate for food that any unsuspecting visitor to the Northern part of the country who goes to a restaurant to eat but mistakenly left his food to wash his hands is likely to lose such to waiting almajiris before he comes back for the food.


I first noticed this ugly trend at a ceremony I attended a few months ago at Ayetoro Ekiti. Elderly and middle aged able bodied women from Kwara, Osun and Oyo states invaded the burial ceremony uninvited and were embarrassing guests who refused to give them money. Also noticeable were children with their begging bowls who thronged the venue of the ceremony soliciting for left over food and alms. The children were a pitiable sight. Poverty was clearly written on their faces. I have attended many social functions after that and the same trend was noticeable. But I became worried a few days ago, when I attended the burial ceremony of a friend's father in Ilesha , Osun State . They came in various groups and employ different methods in soliciting for alms. There were the elderly women who were busy harassing guests in the name of praise singing and would not leave until you part with money, there were the men with their public address system which they use in praise singing but which is disturbance and yet, there were Yoruba children in the mould of almajiris with their begging bowls scrambling for left-over and at the same time soliciting for alms.


Fellow guests on my table at the event who were also journalists expressed their concern in unison about the growing trend of almajiri of various categories in Yorubaland. They all agreed that it has become a social problem. We started discussing and realised that the culture of begging in the mould of almajiris is alien to Yoruba culture. In those days before the advent of the British, the Yorubas are a proud people known for their hard work and industry. They practiced hoe agriculture and were well known as traders and for their crafts. Yoruba artists have produced masterpieces of woodcarving and bronze casting, some of which date from as early as the 13th century. Many of Nigeria 's best-known artists and writers are Yoruba. Other occupation of the Yorubas at that time were drumming and masquerading which would now be called showbiz. They engage in all the foregoing occupation but a Yoruba man or woman (able bodied) would not beg for alms as it is considered shameful and something akin to a curse. The Yorubas cherish their oriki (folklore) which is a poetic version of eulogizing the exploits of their progenitors which is an incentive for them to excel and even surpass their progenitors. The Yorubas have harsh words for lazy people. Such people are objects of ridicule and butt of jokes in the society. With this background, it is understandable why we became worried with the array of beggars at the Ilesha ceremony.


After leaving the party, I reflected on the scenario of the almajiris in Ilesha and I was able to draw a relationship between Political almajiris and social almajiris. I discovered that social almajiri had its root in the advent of the politics of do -or-die introduced into the political lexicon of Yorubaland by apostles of mainstream politics especially ex-President Obasanjo. The grand Patron of political almajiris who recently passed away was Chief Lamidi Adedibu. Many have argued that his death has led to the proliferation of almajiris in Yorubaland. This is because those he hitherto dole handouts to must look for other means of survival since he is no more. These political almajiris are ready to exchange their mothers for few coins. A new political class of men without integrity and anything goes was created and they became political almajiris who survive on crumbs from their masters. They would rig, kill, maim and do all sort of things to acquire political power. With the ascension of these men in power, good governance became a thing of the past. Our collective patrimony was squandered by these political almajiris. Nigeria has never been so blessed with petro dollar with oil selling for $156 dollars per barrel but Nigeria has never been so poor with a chunk of the population living below poverty line. So versions of the political almajiris are the social almajiris that now invade ceremonies in Yorubaland. With these children begging for alms, a ready made market for thuggery and other social vices is assured. The activities of the beggars are not limited to parties. At bus stops in our cities, it is a common sight to see women most of who are still in their mid thirties, who would strap a baby at their backs and approach men with stories of despair to solicit for alms. Many of them would end up in bed with such men. This is another brand of alamajiri and these are Yoruba women. A violent version of almajiri but which is gradually being tackled in Lagos is the 'Area Boys' syndrome. These are Yoruba street urchins who are semi- armed robbers.


The underlying factor in this new trend is failure of the Nigerian State on one part and the laziness on the part of these women. Most of them don't want to work, In those days, when everybody's occupation was farming you dare not beg. You must find something to do. But these days, our women and children are too lazy. It is either they steal or beg. In most cases a mother and child become almajiris at social events. So the question now is can a Yoruba man now refer derisively to a Hausa beggar as almajiri when we have many of them now in Yorubaland? The answer is no! This trend must be arrested before it goes out of hand. The almajiris in the North these days engage in novel forms of drug abuse like sniffing of gutter water to get intoxicated, sniffing of adhesives and other drugs so that they are ever ready to unleash terror on the rest of the society whenever they are called upon to do so by the political wing of almajiris. I strongly recommend that guests at public functions must stop encouraging almajiris by giving them money.


But can government which itself owns the political wing of almajiris arrest this trend? Time will tell.

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/21137-emerging-trend-social-almajiri-inyorubaland.html

manny4life: Are you minding them, the one I even replied above is here saying that data is inaccruate given the fact that it doesn't take into account of economic activity within the past 6months, meanwhile on the Enugu is the poorest state thread, the OP flaunted stats from 2010 which was copied from Wiki and OP lied it was from NBS... These guys are something else, what goes around comes around.

I could not stop laughing on that one. So in the past 6 months others were sleeping and only Ogun is awake.

customized13: y are u lying, dos ogun hv upto 20 universities, u are lair, if nt prove it.

I did not even bother to respond to that one because his claim was totally irrelevant to the post. They forged data and the data turned against them, now they are whining inexorably.

Every first hand information on the ground, not fake paper work, show that Lagos (including 45% Igbo), and in no order, Rivers (huge Igbo presence), Anambra, Delta (huge Igbo presence), Akwa Ibom, Ogun, Abia, and Imo are the best states of all southern states. How they twist it to accommodate impoverished Osun and Oyo beats me.

Anyways, they will forge another one in a few months but we shall beat them to it again.

Crassus: i actually stopped talking coz u were not making sense. its like talking to a wall .

See dundie

Crassus: or more

lol @ hot on their heel

of course they will always be hot on their heel

If it is more than 50, they will state it. It is less than 50.

Crassus: is that your answer? however i dice it?

Ok then.

Bye

No! Come and argue some more, loser

On page 24:

Besides, your data shows that less than 50% of Ogun people are employed (not even talking what sort of employment). What is high about that?
Ondo and Bayelsa too have exact same employment rate, and all SE states are hot on Ogun's heels (44.9%)

Crassus: are u taking the population into consideration my friend?

Lets say the employed population in ogun is 60 percent and there are 10 people in ogun. that means 4 are out of work

if anambra has employed population of 75 percent and there are 100 people there...

which state has highest number of people unemployed?

However you dice it 3.5 % versus 3 % is inconsequential in the big picture we are looking at.

Wholesale and retail trade is the biggest employer in the SW, however agriculture dominates employment in most of the country. We believe
proximity to the country’s ports (Lagos Port Complex accounts for 47% of country’s cargo traffic) largely explains trade’s dominance in the SW, and explains why it is also the fastest-growing sector, behind telecoms.

Good to reaffirm that Lagos GDP is commerce driven, and IGBOS, as everyone knows, dominate that sector in Lagos.

bloggernaija: This dataset is outdated and does not take into consignance things that have happen in the last 6 months
.

But you posted it? Men!! see mumu

Care to share data for last 6 months?

Crassus: 3 percent can be a lot. when you put population into account. is 3 percent of 10 the same as 3 percent of 100?

you should have learnt this in high school already

3.5 % versus 3% is insignificantly different especially when you have others with 8, 6, 5 and 4 %. That is simple ANOVA (statistics) You be olodo.

Indeed the fact that Osun is better than Ogun in all other indices than employment indicates to me that the employment in question is low key type.

Crassus: but your topic was based on the facts i produced nau. (thats my evidence. show me urs)

you made a bogus claim and you cant back it up with facts.

I give up

Read my post a few posts up.

Does any Yoruba here believe Osun is better than Ogun as this report shows?

Crassus: present facts that most employments in ogun are wheel barrow pushing and motor park touting .

then i will answer your question.

always give me facts when you respond to me. (something i can check to verify your claims) no emotions

dont make stuffs up.

so i am waiting for your spreadsheet with the facts then i would answer your question.

I have no facts, neither do you have facts that they are not. However, the summary of your link is that they are mostly traders (involving pushing wheel barrows) and farmers

Crassus,

Why are you even making up a bogus employment scenario for Ogun? There is really no significant difference between Ogun (3.5%) and many other states behind it (3 %). Again, from your own data

Anambra is insignificantly higher than Ogun and both are not significantly higher than many other states up to Enugu.

Lagos and Kano State are home to Nigeria’s largest number of
employed people. State employment data tell us that Lagos State has the
biggest population of employed people in Nigeria. Lagos and Kano State
are home to 8% and 6%, respectively, of Nigeria’s employed population

On employment (page 38):

Wholesale and retail trade is the biggest employer in the SW, however agriculture dominates employment in most of the country.

So they are mostly traders and farmers.

Hey Igbos are traders too and they are the best in that field

Crassus: how is it poor nau? Low income per capital , low population and one of the highest employment rate in the country

You are omitting the employment part nau.

i explained to you already how the high employment rate and unstable prices of goods and services due to location makes your per -capital theory invalid already .. now answer my question

Employment can be anything from motor park touting to wheel barrow pushing. You have to say which Ogun belongs in.

You see, I asked you who produced the data and for whom. You dismissed me and even called me an illiterate. Now its biting back at you

Your own data shows Ogun with low pop density and low GDP/ GDP per capita. You have to live with data, buddie.

Now my own question. Do you believe this report?
Do you believe that Osun is better than Ogun?

Crassus: But you havent answered my question.

answer nau

What does the data say? You no believe am again?

Even with a low pop density, Ogun is still very poor. Employment can be anything from bank job to wheel barrow pushing. What's it for Ogun?

Crassus: Assingment for you adeliade.

A state with low income per capital (cheaper goods and services) with High employment rate (According to the report Ogun has a high employment rate) and

A state with high income per capital (more expensive good and services) with low employment rate.

where are you likely going to see absolute or relative poverty?

Blame those who produced the fake data. I repeat this is fake data, but since you guys want it, you have it. Choose what answers your preconceived bias and I will choose mine.

Page 38 of PDF

Ogun lick bottom pot (based on Geez's unofficial data)

The data generators were paid by private investors of Yoruba origin and they delivered for them, but they forgot Ogun in the process. Osun rich ko Osun rich ni.

Page 6 of PDF:

The northern state of Jigawa, which is bordered by the Republic of Niger to the north, is home to Nigeria’s poorest people, with average per-capita income of $850, which puts it on par with that of Zimbabwe. We believe the state’s low per capita income partially reflects its very low rate of urbanisation.

Looking at the color designation for Ogun vs Jigawa, they are in the same boat

Page 2:

Wholesale and retail trade is the biggest employer in the SW, however agriculture dominates employment in most of the country. We believe
proximity to the country’s ports (Lagos Port Complex accounts for 47% of country’s cargo traffic) largely explains trade’s dominance in the SW, and explains why it is also the fastest-growing sector, behind telecoms.

Statement above clearly brings in the equation of Igbo contribution to Lagos. It is not news that Igbo control 45% of the economy of Lagos via commerce.

emmatok: Just ignore the DUD,

OGUN is currently the most industrialized state in Nigeria
OGUN is houses more Tertiary institutions than all SE put together.
OGUN is currently the major source of building raw material in the country.

Dude, I did not manufacture the data (Geez, a Yoruba man did) that says Ogun is the poorest in southern Nigeria

Crassus: are you saying people who live in areas with low income per capital are facing absolute or relative poverty? are prices of goods and services fixed in every part of the country?

are you going to pay the same price for housing in lagos and oyo for example?

or does food cost in Enugu and oshogbo the same?

low income per capital areas usualy have lower cost of goods and services. if the GDPs of these areas increases yearly (Like Ogun is is currently doing according to figures in the same report). income per capital will increase to with time..

Go and sit down and learn jare.

Cost of living is very very low in Oyo and Osun which explains their Per capita here, which I do not believe though. Cost of living is very high in Eastern Nigeria (SE, SS) yet most have a very high standard of living. How do you explain that? As far as I am concerned only Lagos and Ogun and to some extent Ondo are viable states in SW. In SE, only Ebonyi is unviable. I am on the ground and I see the poverty in Oyo and Osun. Yet I am told Osun is better than Ogun. Tell that to the morons.

Page two of PDF

We also see opportunities for banks to expand services and employees
into states that have a combination of high income and high population density, as
this will provide the footfall required to open bank branches. States that fit this profile
are Anambra, Imo and Abia in the southeast, region; Akwa Ibom and Rivers in
the Niger Delta region; and Osun in the SW.

defined:

Per capita income is often used as average income, a measure of the wealth of the population of a nation, particularly in comparison to other nations. Per capita income is often used to measure a country's standard of living.

Therefore, Ogun has the lowest standard of living in Nigeria, together with Jigawa and Gombe

geeez: its no use arguing with you because from all indications, you're an illiterate

Hey!!! From your PDF, is Ogun the poorest state in southern Nigeria or not? You posted it remember? You killed yourself. You have been bandying about some fake NBS data since last year. We asked you to wait until the official data is out you refused. You at first claimed this was from NBS but you could not supply a link. Someone else or you with another name did, and it happens to be unofficial stuff not from NBS. Even at that, SE state are not doing badly at all from that data and even Ebonyi is better than Ogun. Lagos that is the best is 50 % Igbo. Now you say the 2013 One Ogun is better, can you post the link of that one or it is in your dreams? Is it official or it's like this one, commissioned by some SW newspapers?

Crassus: Luxembourg 91,388 2012
— Macau 87,765 2012
2 Qatar 86,507 2011
3 Norway 65,640 2012
4 Singapore 61,803 2012



All these countries have high per capital. but are they richer than the US?

HAHA grin grin

You need some education son!

Olodo. Average citizens of those countries are doing better than average citizens of the US. There is more poverty in the US than in those countries. Every indices of life (except technology) are better in those countries than US. GDP is all about overall wealth that does not take into account the actual individual well being of the people. GDP is all about the measure of how one or few people (infact the govt) hold the whole money/wealth while 99% of the people are in poverty. I for one I do not believe that Oyo people are better than Ogun people, on the average. So go and get the accurate data. Olodo again.

You bunch of retards cannot eat your cake and have it. either you believe that data, warts and all, or you do not believe it. You wan choose some and leave some? Hehehehehehe