₦airaland Forum

perdollar:
devil can't make me to qoute the Bible to prove abt religion. islam, started in d 6th century and yet Abraham that was born in BC was a Muslim. if this is not delution of grandeur from a crafty lier wt d intentions of drawing souls to his master in hellfire then the ppl who believe in him av no brain to figure out his lies. can God send an unrepentant murderer, a conman, a paedophile as a prophet.

Devil cant make you quote the bible or you have nothing to support your baseless claim? Oh!! the devil is the one exercising authority over you and your corrupted book? Keep fooling your yourself and making a sham of the Paul invention. I knew it will finally end in this.. Very cunning set of people. Always spitting out venoms and gutter languages as learnt from their various so called churches with nothing intelligent to offer.
See as he quickly shifted the goal post as he could not any of his scripture to back up his lousy claim. and started talking nonsense about 6th century tales in the moonlight. No! Islam started yesterday.

By the way, you seem to a friend of the devil as it almost always shows up in your post. You are on his path anyway and fulfilling his purpose. Try harder, Islam will survive you

I

perdollar:
do u think that u av d knowledge to understand d Bible? if yes, that doesn't make u spiritually gifted to understand the Bible. I never knew that before Abraham, Mohd was! and Abraham adheres to d religion of mohd. wonderful.

As usual. Always quick to mention something else to deflect an uncomfortable situation. Quote your bible as stated with respect to issue at hand or you just manufacture statements and injunctions without scriptural or any authoritative back up in your religion.

Anyway, now you have been duly and ably informed that Abraham practiced and died upon the religion of Mohammad. (Peace be upon them both)

Suratul Al-Imran Vs 67 (Qur'an 3 vs 67):

"Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor Christian, but he was a true Muslim, and he was never of those who associate with Allah".

Kindly use your bible to prove otherwise
If you cannot, redirect your steps and embrace the religion of your beloved Abraham of you truly love him as you claim. Ignorance is no longer a luxury for you and shall never be accepted as an excuse.

perdollar:
upon d death of Jesus, d Pius b4 him were connected to God. after his death, u kapri wl not make heaven bc he is d way d truth n life

Show us where in your bible is this if you are truthful. I mean where your bible confirmed that saints before Jesus are connected to him, and not the truth and the way story of Mattew
If you cannot, I can point to where my scripture (the NOBLE Qur'an) confirmed Abraham as a Muslim. You can then probably redirect your steps before your hatred for Islam consume and doom you to hell..

Lol! see this one waging war against Islam

Alhamdulilah ala nimatil islam. Alhamdulilah ala kuli hal.

I pray that I leave this world upon the religion of Ibrahim and the other prophets before and after him.

[quote author=Zenithpeak post=92454907]I like your unsolicited response to the guy's comment.

As you said; it is possible for tens of millions of people to hold onto a belief and it does not necessarily mean that such belief is the truth of the word of God.




You are very correct.
Exactly why the guy you quoted is very correct, and the millions calling him God and Son of God are very wrong and contradictory.

perdollar:
curse b upon Islam n it's followers

NO! Eternal curse is upon Christianity, and you
and all its fellow idol worshipping religion.

tintingz:
I have seen many muslims being confused on what "Omni" is and how it's usually contradicts their beliefs.

By definition "Omni" means;

omni-
/ˈɒmni/

- all; of all things.

- in all ways or places.

As we can see from the definition it means "all of things and in all ways".

Now Omni is used for God because he's said to be a perfect being, so Omni is attributed to God, so for God to appear perfect theists have to use the affixes for every God attributes e.g omni-scient, omni-present, omni-potent, omni-benevolent etc

So when they say God is omni-potent this means God is all-powerful, his powers are unlimited, everything about God is powerful, he can't be less powerful he's always powerful, he's absolutely powerful.

Same for omni-scient, God is all-knowing, he knows everything, his knowledge is unlimited, he can't know but know, absolutely know.

This also same for omni-benevolent, God is all-good, he's always good, he can't be evil or allow evil exist before him, everything about God is good, he's absolutely good. And it goes on like that.

Now this is where it get interesting, by logic these attributes usually contradicts when using theists claims about their God especially the Abrahamic deity. For example, Can God know that he cannot know? This challenge the all-knowing attributes of God. Another one is if God is all-good, why does evil exist?

Some Muslims said Allah is both good and evil, while some maintain he's only good and not evil, I don't have problem if you admit Allah is evil in his attributes but if you maintain Allah is only good(all-good) then you've to logically explain why evil exist.

Some Muslim argued that Allah is "wise" therefore answered why evil exist, does that negate the argument that Allah is not evil? Definitely not. Whether Allah is wise or not, evil still exist and God made it exist except he's not the creator of evil which is another problem for his omnipotence.

I gave an illustration that goes like this, If a biro is very beautiful and it's "all-blue" in ink can it write black? If the biro writes black then the biro has a black ink therefore it's not all-blue. The biro with her beauty is both blue and black.

A Muslim gave an illustration of the sun in an argument,



Although he admitted Allah is both good and evil, but I just want to use his illustration in this post.

The Sun gives light and heat, the light give energy to life while the heat energy is radiation that goes through electromagnetic wave. Two point here, the sunlight is good for life while the sun-heat can be dangerous if exposed to it for long or get closer to it which can leads to one destruction!

The sun is both good and dangerous/destructive, if the Sun is omni-life then everything about the sun is to give life but when the sun can cause destruction then the sun cannot be omni-life.

Now if a God is not completely "Omni" such God cannot be perfect! If Allah is good and evil and not all-good, he can't be a perfect God as he's not completely "Omni".

So from my illustrations I have tried to explain the "Omni" and how it can contradicts your beliefs. I purposely created this thread to make Muslims here understand the concept of "Omni" as most of them don't even understand it.

Your problem as it has been repeatedly stressed again and again and again is your futile attempt at rationalizing Allah and his attributes with your own understanding so as to gain reputation as a critical thinker which you are definitely not. Meanwhile, your reasoning of Allah is only running wild, and driving you blindly into perdition. I pray that should not be your case.

For Allah is the highest degree of perfection in all his attributes and he shares no semblance with any of his creations in them. His attributes are absolute and eternal. In his hand are all goodness, and everything good comes from him to whoever he wishes.

Whatever you perceives as bad in your logic be it death, poverty, natural disasters etc may be otherwise in the true reality. Poverty that induces humility is better than riches that heralds gory death. One may have to be briefly confined to a sickbed out of the mercy of Allah in order to escape a stray bullet or something worse. You will only get to comprehend the apparent which you will term as bad in your human logic, but the wisdom behind those occurrences are only known to Allah. Meanwhile, He does not owe you any explanations as to why they occur.

You often times make reference to death which is ridiculous. Death in whatever form it assumes be it natural disaster, pandemic, suicide, murder or whatever is death, and everyone must die eventually. Do you suppose that man should be immortal? This is a wild figment of your imagination which I am referring to.

Once again Yes, Allah dispenses good and bad according to his design. That is the reality of this worldly in the first place. You can take or leave it. Any foul languages you use on your creator is between you and him, but it is never too late for him.

Pls don't quote me again as your arrogance and closed mindedness is nauseating already

Rilwayne001:
Very beautiful illustration for any intellectually honest being to reason with. You don't expect an unintelligent dishonest being to reason with this at all.

That is true actually true.

Trayceey:
look at how pained this fool is, just because I asked a harmless question. Frustrated goat. I think it's best you hit your forehead on the wall 100 times. That way, you will get better. So marrying a woman now means elevating her? Mukpas. Abeg swerve

Yea! the same type of harmless question that you asked when you and your ilks were accusing men of both proven and unproven rape cases.

Your hypocrisy stinks to the high heaven. Idiot.
If you are fortunate enough to become a wife, chop off your man's manhood to establish whether he will survive it or not instead of typing shits here with your rotten fingers.

Wicked soul

Trayceey:
So if they cut a man's pennis, he'll still be alive. Na wa o . I didn't know o?

.
You are a perfect illustration of human personified evil. What a wicked soul you are. I am seriously weeping for the unfortunate being that will elevate someone like you with being a wife.

I just wish that the women are wiped off the face of this earth

tintingz:
He can't be perfect.

Your life, your path.

No matter how hard you try, Allah is Allah, your weak and inconsequential you is you

tintingz:
He can't be perfect.

Your life, your path.

No matter how hard you try, Allah is Allah, your weak and inconsequential self is you

tintingz:
The bolded is enough, all the rest of your post are irrelevant. You admitted Allah is both good and evil therefore Allah cannot be all-good, he also do evil things.

Good and all-good are two different attributes.

OK Mr all Good.

Allah did not describe himself as such in the first place. You are the one given yourself headache

tintingz:
Allah cleansed the world with flood(killing all creatures execpt for Noah) because of evil and sins, why didn't he kill Satan too?

If he delayed Satan to an appointment time(his plan), that means Allah love evil and want evil to exist and continue therefore Allah is responsible for evil. The killings in the flood story is just a waste of human lives. We can say Allah is just malevolent, yes?

I followed one of your thread which you titled "all loving God" or something similar to that where you were thoroughly schooled on how good and bad are dispensed by Allah in due proportion according to his divine wisdom. You were given a very beautiful illustration of the Sun as to whether it can be referred to as heat or light based on the fact that it gives out both.. I think that jolts your memory.

Instead of admitting your error, you stood your erroneous ground arrogantly to name calling Allah all sorts of odious name. Far above is Allah beyond your limited scope.

Since, you are finding it difficult to comprehend that, let me reinstate emphatically that "YES, both good and bad (evil in your own language) are all the doings of Allah... While you are having a difficult time trying to absorb that reality, may I ask you if your being alive till this moment is one of the evils that you associate with Allah since all your time is about criticizing and subjecting him to your deficient and weak human rationalization.

May you find guidance

The fact that this questioner is still breathing till this moment and many have died due to COVID 19 complications doesn't translate to Allah's incapacitation to snuff out his soul in a blink of an eye. He is just being delayed till an appointed time.

What applies to Satan during Noah's time till the present moment only applies to him.

Or Can we argue that Allah is incapable of killing this OP?

perdollar:
lalala, ur vexation is my joy, u deprived fool. ur anger wl only kill u n ur mohd. tramadol taker and then head slammer. ur prophet swindle poor widow, who became her sugar mummy and he inherited her belongings. wat a trustworthy SOAB indeed. Paul inspired mohd to write book instead mohd an illiterate did a poor man's job doing plagiarism, this SOAB including u have failed humanity. Jesus doesn't even know mohd, Paul doesn't even know mohd yet d ppl that says d Bible is fake qoute Jesus as saying that Mohd is d holy spirit, deception or jihad wl take u to ur aljana indeed which is hell

Bla bla bla bla!! Keep foaming in your gutter called mouth. Only you can understand all the balderdash that you posted up there. Maybe, you can communicate in English for better understanding.
I think you are going to deny that portion of your glorified CRS textbook that I extracted for you, but I can see that you are crafty enough to subtly admit that.

Since all your frustrations have been directed at the Prophets, I don't think I can continue replying you because I cannot shoulder the evils of that. If you really think you have points to advance in a sensible way devoid bad bloods against the Prophet, you are a cinch to me.

As you can see, I never insulted prophet Eesa (your acclaimed personal lord and saviour whom you called Jesus) because my religion barred me from doing so because all prophets are from the same God. I am not surprised about yours anyway because it is a human fabrication without any laws and restrictions. A religion of "do as you wish".

May Allah distance me from the evils of that to which you invite me, and I seek forgiveness of my Lord.

perdollar:
Apostle Paul is way greater than Jihadi Mohd who according to u got provoked to carry arm. prophet of allah vex carry weapon begin kill everybody wey no believe am. u can only sell ds trash to ur condemned brothers n sisters. I wl rather believe in wat Paul said than believe in a vampire, in a man of dubious character. all those his friends that trusted him n died in battle n took over there wife, r now beating ur SOAB adulterer in hell. get ur mind working u useless jihadist, go to Sambisa or middle East or Somalia or NA n quench ur taste to fight for ur mohd

See this idiot. Apostle Paul my foot! You had better call a spade and a spade and stop spweing trash. Not only Apostle Paul, it is Engr Paul. What a expert Con man he was that he was able to becloud your reasoning if you ever had any. You fooling yourself Paul is in paradise as if it is your family property granted admission therein by your relative.

As I said, you have found your unfortunate match this time around as you are going to be first victim on this forum.

Keep wailing over the Prophet as if he is the one responsible for your generational misery. Even your polluted bible had a verse where your god ordered his disciples to bear arms and prepare for war, even if that means selling their garments to do so. It seems you are even a dull bible student. What a fool. If you will be humble enough I can help you with the verse.

idol worshipper!!

perdollar:
go n hug transformer u follower of a doomed paedophile. if ur arsehole delutioned prophet is alive today, he would av been dealt with in ICC for war crime, crime against humanity and rape cases n cases of murder, paedophile, hate deception would av sent him to life imprison like many others after him. clean d cobwebs in ur brain n clean ur brain too. think critical of d life of d person u called a prophet free ur mind from bias thinking and find d falsehood of ds opportunistic man.

So how is it your problem if I am one of his followers? Were you invited to follow him? Now you can see how intolerant you are, and that is how you people going about inciting religious hate. How I wish

It is the likes of all these hates and unprovoked persecutions of yours that led to the series of battle that he fought during his lifetime that you Paul's slaves are wailing over today. What an hypocritical soul! Are you trying to sell to me that if I slap you on the right side, you will turn your left as your distorted scripture enjoined or rather slap yours back? How I wish there is a call for Jihad today over all these assaults against the prophet. I will willingly give up my life on the battlefield for the sake of Allah, provided that I am first able to send biological wastes like you to hell.

I won't revile your Jesus whom you have taken as idol as I have no right to do so. He is a very great prophet of Allah whom you have been brainwashed to see as a god. But so you know, you are an idol worshipper, and I rather follow to the Prophet in submission to the one true God who created your god

perdollar:
common sense is not common. how can u believe aboki wey go smoke Igbo for mountain come down tell una say angel give am revelation? come marry 11 wives of his dead companion and a child of 6years, begin kill ppl to force them believe in his msg. haba! can't u see d lies? even doctored ur Koran to look attractive to dogs n goats like u. which African man no go like to marry 4wives wt option of divorcing and adding. u need devil in ur life bc Jesus has cast u away

I am not cut out for all these your typical display of bitterness in Christianity, but unfortunately for you, I have got your time. Let's game.

You re very foolish and so myopic in your miserable being. The trash that you posted has only gone a long way to clearly validate my assertion about your intolerance. Your came here to type with your leprosy ridden finger on a low budget Chinese phone to assert authoritatively that all Muslims are going to hell, and you expected no challenge? You definitely need a brain surgery for that over bloated estimation of yourself. Typical of Paul's sheep like you anyway as he is one leading you all to hell while you race on blindly except whoever Allah's mercy might catch up among you still living.

See all the the bad bloods you poured out insulting the prophet of Allah. I hope that it has improved your condition. Your twisted mind must really be feeling funky that Christianity is the way. You are truly a wasted effort, but who am I to to judge since you are still alive.

perdollar:
let him go n enjoy his 77virgins in aljana. so this man just like any other Muslim is going to hell! please all Muslims should give there life to Christ n b saved on d day of resurrection

All Muslims going to hell?

What a delusion of grandeur. Is it your pastors or reverend fathers who hold the key to hell or paradise?
Your eyes will soon clear enough if death should meet you wasting your life on that nonsense called Christianity before you are confounded with the greatest shock of your existence when Jesus himself will denounce you and your folks.

Very intolerant set of swine eaters... Nonsense.

Xmuslim:
Thanks man for taking your time to explain this (even though I have contrary opinion)

I have a question. Not compulsory to reply if you don't know.

I have read Qur'an times without numbers and I see the stories of prophets that appears more than once (more of a repetition) e.g musa, eesa. I was wondering why God didn't mention prophets that come from other part of the world other than Israel and Arabs. Even in the israa waliraj, all the prophets that Muhammad met on his way were isrealite prophets. I would like to know the prophet that was sent to China, Japan, Nigeria etc.

I decided to reply you once more because I can see signs of receptiveness in you. Perhaps, Allah may guide you to that which is good for you. At this point, I must reiterate it that I am a student of knowledge and not in anyway an authority or scholar of islam, but I can share my little knowledge with others.

Allah sent raised and sent many prophets among their nations and sent them to their people to call them to order.. The geographical connotations of Nigeria, Japan, China etc were not in existence then.

Over 124,000 prophets were sent, but only 25 of them were mentioned in the Qur'an, and 5 amongst those 25 mentioned stood out as the arch prophets. Only Allah have the knowledge about the multitudes of the unmentioned Prophets; about their tribes and their nations.

However, at a certain point in time, the Israelites were the chosen ones, and Allah raised many prophets among them, but the last Prophet; Muhammad (Sallalu Alayhim Wa Salaam) after which their is no any other Prophet have been sent to the whole of humanity from the time he was raised to the last human being to come to the world, even though he has been raised among the Arabs. That is where Allah chooses him to come from.

Finally, the Qur'an being the revealed in Arabic is because Arabic is the most sophisticated and comprehensive language on the face of the earth, and the immediate people whom the prophet was to address where his people. Therefore, he was to communicate with them in a language that they all understand.

If any further thing, I hope someone else can step in or you send a DM. Thank you

LordReed:
Just answer the question. Any antagonism is coming from you right now.

Okay.. Here we go

Allah has endowed man with the faculties of sight, hearing and reasoning to be able to chat through our course in life. Those facilities are enough to scale through our worldly affairs. That is the reason why humanity has attained such an enviable status in terms of technological breakthrough, and the likes where humanity is today. The faculties also to a large extent have helped to the realization of a supreme being in control of affairs.

For instance, our sighting and reflections on the rising and setting of sun and the moon, the movements of the cloud which sometimes pour down heavy rain that revive once dead and barren earths to spring forth with lush green vegetations, the regulation of world population between birth and death, the heights of the mountains, the natural resources of the earths without most of which existence on earth would not be possible, our being in the most conducive planet; earth rather than mercury where all lives would automatically burn to death, or Pluto where freezing to death to death would occur, the compatibility of pregnancy in the womb (which is more of a foreign body which the antibodies should try to attack but had been sustained to grow to full terms by the will of Allah), the variations of the skin colors, tribes and races, the natural ability of every individuals to pick their mothers tongue without any efforts on their parts, the sustainability of billions humans and countless numbers of other creatures oon daily basis humanities, the alternation of the night and day with the purposes that they serve, the expansiveness of the earths to provide space for billions and billions of people, the galaxies in the outer space, and many other of the delicate balances that sustain the universe can never and never be attributed to nature, or just happenstance occurrences. These are all enough to point to the realization of the creator.


However, Allah in his infinite mercy did not only leave us to make do with all the above as He is very much aware that our intellect would not be sufficient enough to guide us unto him. He therefore took it upon himself to send down prophets one after the other until he has sent over a hundred and twenty four thousands (124, 000+) of them to guide humanity and to call there awareness unto him. That is coupled with all the above signs and manifestations and many more.

All these are enough for a living heart to realize the existence of the creator.. Insha Allah, I will end it here as I will no longer respond to any mention on this topic again.

May Allah guide you alright, and keep us firm upon guidance.

tintingz:
Again...

If I and everyone wasn't born the Idea of honouring, respect, worship etc, nothing won't matter!

Allah created humans for his own selfish reason just for humans to worship him or you burn in hell, that's some narcissistic behavior. He's an independent omnipotent being, what does he gain in worshipping him?

I'm not denying the existence of God, your God doesn't exist to even deny it existence, anyways keep worshiping your imaginary narcissistic God. I wonder why he didn't approve of 50 prayers daily to you people.

It amazes me how you are able to feel perfectly okay after all these vituperations against Allah..

If you don't belief in him, you should at least know that billions of people do. Please advance your points without reviling against Allah.. Thank you

LordReed:
The question is quite simple and does not need your antagonism. HOW did you verify the claim?

Would you derive any benefits from my reply or you just want to drag me into what I am ordinarily not disposed to

LordReed:
How do you determine who created something? Do you just believe it if someone claims to be the creator of something or do you verify it in some way?

We verified it sir, and found the claim to be very accurate and logical.

Do you suppose that you just came about from nowhere or you created yourself? . OK you belief in the Darwin's theory of being a descendant of monkey. But who created those monkeys?

Why didn't you lay claim to being the creator if just anybody can claim it?

Xmuslim:
Thanks for your time.

Although your comparism is flawed. The fear of what comes after death is the reason why many believers will continue to have hope. I won't blame anyone for such

However, fear doesn't right what's wrong. It is suffice to say that your fear of unknown and after death won't allow you to accept the flaw in the religion. But please don't be too extreme in your religion. Any law in your religion that endanger other human beings should not be followed pls. Together we can live together in harmony

Lol! Okay sir..

AntiChristian:
May Allah keep us steadfast in Islam till we breath our last.

And may we not be afflicted with what these atheist have been afflicted!

Aamin.

Aegerine

Amin brother.

Lol.. We will never loose hope on them insha Allah

tintingz:
You just made claims without no logical answer to it.

You're still repeating what I said about this topic.

Of course, the only logical answer that can satisfy you is to see with your naked eye Allah descending down from the heaven in the ranks of the angels. Probably hoisting paradise on his right, and hell on his left. Unfortunately, you cannot be obliged with that until a time that will might be too late.

However, to break it down for you that we have sung different tunes, I was able to address your question on why Allah has created us, and whether he needs our worship or not and why some will be punished. Making sense out of it or not is totally up to you.

Peace unto you!!

Xmuslim:
May I know how you received your own guidance sir. How did you know Islam is what God wants from us. I don't want us to argue whether God exist or not

Guidance is a grace from Allah. He guides whoever he wants. However, everybody has the capacity to choose his or her course in life.. Therefore, engagements of reasoning faculties in the appropriate way can also qualifies one to receive the grace of guidance.. It therefore means that whoever earnestly desires and seek guidance shall be guided.

If you can establish that Qur'an is a revelation from Allah, you have your answer to whether Islam is the only acceptable religion or not. And to establish that is most easy, but I won't will be willing to do that here as this will be my last reply to you on this thread.

Seek guidance, you shall be guided. Peace unto you!

Xmuslim:
At bolded, even if we have evidence that Allah exists and that he sent Qur'an, won't he be an unreasonable God for giving us intellect yet expect us to be dogmatic in our act?

I personally think everything in religion should be logically explainable if God actually endowed us with intellectual capabilities.



While I agree that there should be a sort of punishment for bad action, I disagree with the fire punishment for short term, let alone eternal hell. Nothing can justify eternal hell.

Also, why judge people based on their beliefs, instead of their actions (good or bad).

Your last paragraph is one of the reasons why it took me a long time to abandoned religion. The fear of the punishment of the grave and eternal hell. I swear these are just a psychological tools used by Muhammad to keep us in Islam. I'm very sure about this. No sane God will punish vulnerable human to that extent. There is nothing divine about Islam, Christianity or Judaism.

May you receive guidance.

tintingz:
Definitely doesn't make any sense.

No one was asked if they want to be created, no one begged Allah they want to be created, nothing will matter if we don't exist, why then does he want people to worship him 5 times a day?

There's no total freewill here, "worship me or burn In hell".

The idea of worshiping the imaginary God is to keep people in check and make them believe they owe God everything.

Theeist concept of God still make some sense, a God that doesn't want to be worshiped nor intervene.

Allah is Al-Haliq ( The creator). Just as the greatness of the writer is attested to in his writing, the manifestation of the Creator is in his Creation.. Therefore, Allah has created all of what pleases his Majesty, among which is one of the least creations; human being to manifest his attribute of a CREATOR.
The creation of human being is among the least compared to many other mighty creations of Allah such as the heavens and the earths, the mountains, the galaxies, the angels and the rest.

Therefore, Allah does not benefit in human either worshipping or rebellious against him as he has no need of those. All of the rest of the creations which are glorifying their Lord, and they are never tired of that or arrogant towards it. Human beings are to benefit from their worship or Allah, and to suffer for their rebelliousness.

He (Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala) says;
No one can question what he does, but they will be questioned. (Qur'an 21 vs 23)

Therefore, it is not for you or for anything to question Allah about any of his acts of creations, commands, rewards, punishments and others. Rather, you will be questioned by him because He is the creator and not you.

Explanations on how those who worship Allah are benefitting from their acts of worships might be very vague to you or goes beyond your comprehension since you are not worshipping him but rather challenging, questioning, and trying to subject him to human rationalization using the facilities such as eye, intellect free time, hands, health and others which he has endowed you with.

Finally, Allah supreme justice dictates that he burns the obstinate disbelievers in hell and reward his pious servants. Both good and bad cannot be treated the same way. That would be injustice which is incompatible with the essence of Allah.

Reason and act right very quick. What comes with and beyond death is very severe.

makewetalk2:
hahahaha

I love dragging y'all apologists around like dirty rags. I love the feeling of coming to the realisation that a Christian knows your koran more than you and all that you have to do is recriminate. A petty man recriminates when he realizes instead of admitting.

One of the differences between Christians and Muslims is that a Christian will not deny the scripture or try to paint anything on it insidiously. You came forth defending the koran and now you are making comparisons. Doesn't that make you deplorable?

Initially, you asked me to prove how the Koran encourages you to lie. I did and instead of thanking me and appreciating my research work, rather you got defensive and deflected.

Have you seen Taqiyya, Kitman, Muruna, and Tawriya in your koran?

You never knew that your koran encourages you to lie? You must be coming out a dark skunk glue.

As regards to Salaam, even the Quraysh used it before Mohammed was born. When I mentioned Jerusalem there, you probably have no clue but I want to give you some knowledge.

My question is, have you accepted that Taqiyya, Kitman, Muruna, and Tawriya are all components of deceits and sophistry encouraged by Islam?

You are obviously a miserable being if you think you can evades all the issues arising concerning your so called gathering of cultists called Christianity and expect any further details from me.

Hmm! Your knowledge of the Qur'an is very remarkable. Islamic scholar wannabe who is blinded to his own polluted scripture. What a frustrated soul

See this idiot trying to overlook 2 Corinthians 6:14 and all other questions that I raised but crying wolves about Qur'an 3 vs 28, now tying to shift goal posts to comparison. How comparable is the Qur'an with your stinking directionless pamphlet called bible. What is the nexus between Islam and your legalized assembly of cultists called Christianity? Hypocrisy is definitely the soul of Christianity.. Remove hypocrisy and that Paul invented religion is dead.

You think you are the only one that has monopoly of hatred. We equally hate you all with the same dosage of venom. Our hatred for you is so gross that we don't want to imagine that you even exist but we have got no time to spare for the likes of your pathological display of madness by you and your sheepies brethren

Keep wriggling in pain because of Islam. You have unfortunately met your match this time around and it is not going to party for you as usual

Cursed soul!!! I spit on you

makewetalk2:
Good question. I expect more, though.
I demand that you go to your mullah and ask him the meaning of these four words: Taqiyya, Kitman, Muruna, and Tawriya

If he doesn't speak Arabic, you can return to me for DEEPER clarification.

I am the last man to be scared of Islam or to have nightmares over it. Even when I live in Saudi Arabia, I never had such nightmares. I have strong faith in the Bible and there is no way in the history of this world that Muslims will overtake the west.

I do not blame muslims for anything, what I posted is an excerpt of your koran.
If you have a problem with my post, you should have been alarmed by the cult in which you belong.

Qu'ran is a book of the Quraysh. I am gracing it by calling it koran.

Let me ask you, what is the meaning of Qu'ran?
You cannot answer without conducting thorough research online. That shows you that you are one of the deluded

It seems an obvious lie from the pit of hell that Islam is not giving you nightmares. It definitely is. If not, you wouldn't have dragged Islam into what doesn't concerns it, but that is by the way.

people who are more powerful, more intelligent and have everything better than you have opposed and waged war against Islam. Today, they have been forgotten, but Islam is still waxing stronger, and so shall it does till the end of time.

Qur'an 3vs 28 commanded the believers not to take the disbelievers as allies, but we can maintain human relations with you as long as we coexist, but you seems to have headache with that. Of course, why should we? Do you love us? Are you not our enemies? Don't you see us as unbelievers as well or why the hypocrisy. With your attitudes and the majority of your folks on nairaland only, would that not be foolhardiness to consider you as our close friends? You seem to have spent more time studying the Qur'an and islam to fish out errors and points against Islam that you were blinded to the injunction of your book that you called bible in 2Corinthians 6: 14

2 Corinthians 6: 14

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

So is the above a quotation of peace, or your were blinded to that?

In your determined attempt to extinguish the light of Islam, you and your likes always tagged it as an occultic group. You tried, but your best is not enough. Islam is a religion ordained by God and sent with all his messengers. Your so called Christianity on the other hand is a figment of Paul imagination and reinforced by his ilks like Luke, Mathew, Mark and the likes.. Go back to what MARK have for you in

Mark 1: 1-4

to confirm that yours is truly the gathering of cultists.

You questioned about the meaning of Qur'an right? We are going to tell you, but hope you can as well tell us the meaning of bible because the last time I checked, bible is a Greek word which means book. That is the reason why we have almost a 100 different versions of your book. Everybody pick whichever is convenient for them to abide by.

Qur'an means that which is read.. It by itself confirmed its name in many different places of the book such as Qur'an 56 : 77, Qur'an 59 : 21, Qur'an 36 vs 2, and many other numerous places in the glorious book.

Other names of Qur'an as confirmed by its noble self are Al furqan (The criterion) Q25 vs 1
Az Zikr. (The reminder) Q 15 vs 9
Al Hudda. (The guidance) Q 2 vs 2, Q 31 vs 3
As Shifaa. ( The cure) Q 17 vs 82.

And many others as beffiting the revelations of the Lord of the Universe..

Would you please educate us about the bible ? Where does it confirm itself as bible. Where does it confim your religion as Christianity and you as Christians? Where do you get name of your gathering as Churches.

On issue of "Salam" and "Shalom", that is very ridiculous actually, so no need for time wasting

If you cannot do justice to all these, then I will advise you to your frustration back to your religion and spare Islam of all your bad blood because one day you will be no more,and Islam will continue to wax stronger.

May you find guidance