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Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by Africaman: 12:16am On Oct 25, 2013 |
shymexx:Hi, I would similarly argue that the Yoruba commonwealth has also had a few historical capitals. For instance: Ile-Ife was the capital of the early Yoruba Commonwealth, Oyo-Ile was the capital of the old Oyo Empire/Alafinate, Lagos was the capital of the Lagos Colony & Protectorate with Lagos being the colony and the rest of the Southwest-Naija area being the protectorate, Ibadan was Western Nigeria regional capital and most populous and militarily powerful Yoruba city after the Oyo Empire/Alafinate collapsed. shymexx:Check out Musiwa/Becomerich's old thread on a new capital city called odua city(with a map), located around the general area you have just designated(bolded). Here is the Odua City thread with map: 'The Building Of Modern Odua City In Osun,ondo And Oyo And Ogun See'. The link: https://www.nairaland.com/420672/building-modern-odua-city-osunondo ciao |
Politics / Re: National Conference - Akure A Good Candidate As South West Capital by Africaman: 12:04am On Oct 25, 2013 |
Dudu_Negro:Hi, I believe the Yoruba subgroups such as: Oyo, Ondo, Oke-Ogun, Owo, Osun, Ibadan, Ibarapa, Ijebu, Ijesa, Ikale, Ilaje, Egba, Egbado, Eko, Akoko etc, were described/designated as traditional states in some circles. I think that is why the foremost monarchs in those areas were described by the colonial overlords as the paramount traditional rulers. In which case we have the Olowo as the traditional ruler of the Owo traditonal state, the same logic applying over large parts of Yoruba land. I view the modern states of Nigeria with their governors as a contemporary equivalent of our traditional administrative structures. We now have a situation where the Ijebu want an Ijebu state, the Ibadan want Ibadan state, the Ife want Oduduwa state, the Ijesha want Owa state etc. Therefore, I think each Yorubaland represents a traditional state and should form a modern Yoruba state within a Yoruba Region/Megastate of Nigeria or within a Yoruba Independent Sovereign Nation State. ciao 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Maps Of Kingdoms, Peoples, States, And Cities In Africa Through Time by Africaman: 1:23am On May 12, 2013 |
Here are the links to some online Yoruba History books: The history of the Yorubas : from the earliest times to the beginning of the British Protectorate by Johnson, Samuel, d. 1901; Johnson, O. (Obadiah) (c) (1921): http://archive.org/stream/historyofyorubas00john/historyofyorubas00john_djvu.txt The Yoruba Today by J.S Eades ( c ) 1980: http://lucy.ukc.ac.uk/YorubaT/ The Yoruba-Speaking peoples of the slave coast of west Africa by W.B Ellis (c) 1891 ? : http://www.sacred-texts.com/afr/yor/yor02.htm 17 years in the Yoruba country by Anna Hinderer(1873): http://archive.org/details/seventeenyearsi00honegoog |
Literature / Re: Let's Discuss Yoruba Literature... by Africaman: 10:18pm On Apr 19, 2013 |
This is a website I found on google, it features some Yoruba language literature books for sale: http://afriquedepot.com/Yoruba-Books-c20/ The Yoruba language author, Kehinde Adepegba, has written/published children's novels in Yoruba language. Check out the weblink: http://kehindeadepegba.com/yoruba+literature.html . |
Literature / Re: Let's Discuss Yoruba Literature... by Africaman: 10:06pm On Apr 19, 2013 |
Just to let you know that Prof Chinua Achebe's 'Things Fall Apart' has been translated into Yoruba as 'Igbesi Aye Okonkwo', by the late Chief Wale Ogunyemi. You can find the web link here: http://zodml.org/eachbook.php?id=2667 An acount of a Nigerian's World War 2 experiences written in Yoruba is called 'Oju mi ri ni India', ie 'My experiences in India'. The Nigerian Regiment of the Royal West African Frontier Force(RWAFF), were stationed in India, in preparation to kick the Japanese out of Burma. They used to teach this in the 1960s in Western Nigeria's schools I believe, but not any more, don't think. The web link for 'Oju mi ri ni India' is here: http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Oju_mi_ri_ni_India.html?id=_2bzAAAAMAAJ . It only gives the author name, year of publication and the publisher, but it is better than nothing. Author: J O Ariyo. Publisher: Longman, Green. Year: 1957. Barnaby Philips' tweet on this publication is HERE. Barnaby Philips', the aljazeera correspondent filmed a documentary 'The Burma Boy', an account of the late Pa Isaac Fadoyebo's WW2 experiences, which can be found here: http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/aljazeeracorrespondent/2011/08/2011828135228487172.html . 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Why Nigeria's Southeast Should Not Intergate by Africaman: 5:44pm On Dec 17, 2012 |
afam4eva:I hope you don't mind me butting in here ? How about having a regional government with several provincial governments inside it ? So there would be local, provincial and regional tiers of government, each with it's own responsibilities. Each province would have its own capital city and subsidiary cities, having the freedom to develop as they see fit. The regional government can tackle the overall problems, ie region wide roads, rather than the federal or current state government. Things like erosion(I think this occurs in both the southeast and southwest), deforestation(all over the south at least), desertificationin the north), these can be tackled by regional governments also, probably more effectively than the current state and federal governments. Regions with common problems may even cooperate in solving them. Just a thought. |
Culture / Re: Bim Adewunmi On Racism And Skin Color by Africaman: 11:39am On Sep 18, 2012 |
Bim Adewunmi is a she. Check out below. Maggie Scott in conversation with Bim Adewunmi. On youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnZ6G2oTaU8 ciao |
Culture / Re: Yoruba Grammar by Africaman: 1:44pm On Aug 09, 2012 |
You're welcome Marian Anikulapo. Fela himself sang 'I no be gentleman at all o!'. odigba |
Culture / Re: Yoruba Grammar by Africaman: 9:26am On Aug 06, 2012 |
marianikulapo: Hello,I'm brazilian,I have African heritage and very proud of it.Hello, Well, "Emi mi mase beru" is a nearly accurate translation of "My mind, don't be afraid". However, the Yoruba word for "mind" and also for "heart" is "okan", whereas the word for "Spirit" is "Emi". So an exact translation would be: "Okan mi mase beru" -> "My mind, don't be afraid" Your original translation "Emi mi mase beru", is the best translation however, because it conveys the right sense of translation from a Yoruba point of view, so don't change it. I just gave you the above explanation for your information. You can try this Yoruba -> Portuguese dictionary here: http://glosbe.com/pt/yo/ Good luck. Odabo 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Learning Yoruba (phonology) by Africaman: 11:14pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
Congratulations Starflux and good luck with your learning. You might find this useful: http://www.africa.uga.edu/Yoruba/pronunciation.html odabo. |
Culture / Re: Death Of Fulani And Fulfulde Language by Africaman: 10:42pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
Anyone wanting to learn the Fulani/Fulfulde/Peul languge should please see: "A Vocabulary of Primary Science and Mathematics in Nine Nigerian Languages: Fulfulde, Izon, Yoruba", it is a publication of the Nigerian Educational Research Development Council(NERDC), in Sherda Abuja. Also this website which has links to Fulani/Fulfulde/Peul language learning resources at the bottom of that page. I believe you have to be registered on the site before you are allowed to download the materials. Here is the link: http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/abibitumi-kasa-afrikan-language-institute/42369-fula-language-texts-1850-1890-see-pdf-attachments.html Hope this helps. |
Culture / Re: Learning Yoruba (phonology) by Africaman: 2:28pm On Jul 20, 2012 |
Hi Starflux, I think the dictionary is okay. I have perused it before, however I haven't really read the other books. But they do look alright. Aren't there any universities, colleges or community organisations offering short courses in Yoruba, where you live ? Maybe it would be better to attend such courses where you are based, if theer are any, that is. Odabo |
Culture / Re: Learning Yoruba (phonology) by Africaman: 1:42pm On Jul 19, 2012 |
Hello Starflux, The way you have it up there, the pattern for 'Ologinni' looks like this (mid-high-low-high) ie rising and falling and rising again. However, as far as I am aware of, it should actually be a tone pattern of (mid-high-low-low), so it has to be rising and falling. Therefore you should have a (`) on the last tone, not a (´). Hope that helps. The written form with these symbols (^,¨), (~), are to be found in mostly old Yoruba written form. Modern Yoruba no longer uses these symbols. The (^) simply means (high-low) ie a high tone followed by a low tone, (´) followed by (`) or (´)(`). The (~) was used to write words that represent a combination of tones, for example the word for 'Smell' is 'Oorun', with this pattern (`)(´)(`). The tone pattern for this is (low-high-low). Using this symbol (~) known as a tilde, it will be written as 'Orun', just one 'O' with the tilde on top. See here: http://www.learnyoruba.com/ORTHOGRAPHY_1.pdf, for further explanation. As for 'Sister-in-law', well the general word for 'in-law' in Yoruba is 'Ana' with tone pattern (low-mid) ie (`)( ). Note it has the same spelling as the word for 'Yesterday' → 'Ana', but a different tone pattern, which is: (low-high) ie (`)(´). Now to describe your sister in-law, you would say 'My in-law who is my brother's wife' -> 'Ana mi, iyawo egbon mi'. For modern Standard Yoruba orthography and accepted tonal marks, try and download this Yoruba language language primer here: http://www.learnyoruba.com/Downloads/YorubaPrimer.pdf You can also look again at this site: http://www.scribd.com/doc/5967313/GrammarYoruba It was produced based on the work of Professor Ayo Bamgbose, the foremost linguistic authority on modern Yoruba. A lot of his work underpins modern Yoruba language writing form. You can also try their Yoruba Readers Club: http://www.learnyoruba.com/readers.htm odabo |
Culture / Re: The Afro-brazilian (saro) Descendants Of Lagos State - Our History by Africaman: 5:28pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Ptolomeus:Ketu was attacked many times by Dahomey, but ti was always rebuilt. Here is a link to the Ketu town, commune and arindissement in Benin republic on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A9tou,_Benin and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketu_(Benin) Odabo 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Some Historical Terms In Yoruba. by Africaman: 5:19pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: I would like to ask for help to friends. I don't think I know 'hehe'. If you meant 'Gege', in modern Yoruba it is a slang term for 'guy'. I don't know of it's precolonial meaning. 'Nago' is just the short form of 'Anago', so they are the same thing. It's like somenody named 'Carlos' and you call them 'Carl' for short. You have that type of shortening in English as well. |
Culture / Re: Learning Yoruba (phonology) by Africaman: 5:09pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
StarFlux: Hello again, thanks for keeping the thread alive!Hello Starflux, To answer your other questions: For the plurals we can have: 2) a) 'Your Bed' -> 'Ibusun tire'. If the person speaking is the same age or older than the person he/she is speaking to, then we say Ibusun tire. It could be two people who are friends talking or a parent talking to a child or even a teacher talking to a student. b) 'Your Bed' -> 'Ibusun tiyin'. If the person speaking is younger than the person he/she is speaking to. For example a child talking to her parent, a student to a teacher or a worker talking to their boss at work. c) 'Your Bed' -> 'Ibusun tiyin'. When talking to more than one person regardless of age. 3) I believe 'tire' is pronounced with a rising tone, because it is a low tone followed by a middle tone. I hope my explanation is clear. Odabo. |
Culture / Re: Learning Yoruba (phonology) by Africaman: 4:57pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
StarFlux: Hello again, thanks for keeping the thread alive!Hello Starflux, I will try to answer your questions. In Yoruba, the noun comes first before the qualifier, it is the other way round in English: For example 'White Shirt' (qualifier + noun) translated into Yoruba will be 'Ewu Funfun' (noun + qualifier). Note that 'White' -> 'Funfun' and 'Shirt' -> 'Ewu' Can you see how it works ? And also the difference between English order and Yoruba order ? |
Culture / Re: Learning Yoruba (phonology) by Africaman: 4:57pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
StarFlux: Hello again, thanks for keeping the thread alive!Hello Starflux, I will try to answer your questions. In Yoruba, the noun comes first before the qualifier, it is the other way round in English: For example 'White Shirt' (qualifier + noun) translated into Yoruba will be 'Ewu Funfun' (noun + qualifier). Can you see the difference ? |
Culture / Re: Learning Yoruba (phonology) by Africaman: 9:27am On Jul 12, 2012 |
Ptolomeus: @ StarFluxPtolomeus, it was a pleasure. Here is a link to a Yoruba -> Portuguese dictionary, I think you speak spanish, but you might find it useful still. Here is the link: http://glosbe.com/pt/yo/ For example, type in the Yoruba word for a house, "ile", it will produce the Portuguese translation. I hope you find it useful too. Odabo. |
Culture / Re: Learning Yoruba (phonology) by Africaman: 9:23am On Jul 12, 2012 |
StarFlux: Hello! Thanks for the reply.You're most welcome Starflux and it was a pleasure. odabo. |
Culture / Re: Learning Yoruba (phonology) by Africaman: 5:02pm On Jul 11, 2012 |
Hello Starflux, Check out http://www.learnyoruba.com/ The section on phonology(which you can reach from the home page by the way) is here: http://www.learnyoruba.com/phonology.htm I suggest you peruse the whole site. It is very informative and very instructive. For when learning the Yoruba alphabet, click on the letter and you get the correct pronounciation. It also teaches some basic morphology amongst other topics. Good luck in your linguistic adventures... Odabo |
Politics / London Mayoral Elections 08 by Africaman: 12:13am On Apr 30, 2008 |
@Moderators/Admin, please leave in this section as a sticky until Saturday May 2nd, 2008, thanks. Dear London based members, I know this is a bit late in the day, however, I'd still like to remind you all to remember to vote on Friday 1st May 08. I would also like to inform you of the Christian Choice, an alliance of both the Christian Party and the Christian People's Alliance. Please see their website for details. This party's candidate wants to protect things like family values, and to keep God in the political affairs of the city/nation. It is unlikely their candidate will win the mayoral elections, however if enough people vote, then the party will be able to secure a seat on the London-wide list for the greater London Assembly. I would like to urge all believers to choose Alan Craig(Christian Choice) as their first choice on the ballot, then their prefered candidate(if different) as second choice. This will go towards winning a seat on the London assembly for the christian choice, while their prefered candidate might still win the mayoralty with enough second-choice votes. Thank you all. |
Politics / Biafra Revisited: Bbc Radio 4; 8pm Bst 15/10/2007 by Africaman: 9:16pm On Oct 13, 2007 |
Nobel Prize-winning author Wole Soyinka returns to Biafra to confront the ghosts of his past. UK NIA-ans can simply tune in on the day; everyone else can follow the programme on the net here. |
Culture / Yoruba Festival 2007: London by Africaman: 10:39am On Aug 07, 2007 |
Biggest Yoruba party in the UK Theme: Ranti omo eni ti iwo nse(remember the son of whom thou art) Date: Saturday, 11th August 2007 Time: 12NOON - 9PM. Venue: Royal Arsenal Gardens, Woolwich(nr Waterfront leisure centre). Free Performances: Artistes: Sunny Melody, Segun Dynamic, Wale Thompsom etc Djs: Shy-Shy, DJ Murhy, Kashif da Flash Asa Ibile: Alujo by Ayan the 1st, Ewi ati Owe, Comedy Fun Activities: Competitions(Prizes to be won: Cash, Flight Tickets, Textiles, Beauty Hampers) Rara(Yoruba Rap), Gele wrapping, Yoruba Dance, Cute Dresser, Owe(Proverbs) Children Affairs: Language, Music, Moral Workshops Textile Design Dress-up Parade Body Adornment Folktales and Songs Funfair Games Opon Ayo Bouncy Castle From: Free Newspaper: African Trumpet, Vol 13 no 190 July 18 - 31 2007 edition |
Culture / Re: Marriage Squeeze: Is This Only An African American Woman's Problem? by Africaman: 10:08pm On May 06, 2007 |
Interesting & entertaing thread. |
Literature / Creatve Writing Workshop by Africaman: 9:56pm On May 06, 2007 |
with Abidemi Sanusi Creative Writing Workshop – an excellent one day introduction to writing and publishing your book, screenplay or articles Saturday 12th May 2007, 9:30am-4:30pm, KT Summit House. £20.00 For more details see here. |
Literature / Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Book Signing by Africaman: 9:55pm On Mar 05, 2007 |
Chimamanda will be undertaking a book signing/reading at Stratford Library in East London on March 26 2007 at 7PM. |
Literature / Another Naija Lady Author. by Africaman: 12:33am On Mar 04, 2007 |
Introducing Abidemi Sanusi who writes christian fiction. |
Nairaland / General / Re: Nairalanders In London: Let's Get Together by Africaman: 8:13am On Jul 27, 2006 |
My fellow Nigerians., Although I am a rare poster in here, allow me to make a suggestion. The Regent's Park in north west/central London might be a good venue. There is a sizable lake where you can hire row boats for about six pounds per person(adults), children cost a bit less. It also houses the London zoo, the Regent's canal with the Chinese restaurant shaped like a boat on the canal. There are boat trips available on the canal all the way to Little Venice. The park has a few cafes, open air theatre/concerts, playing areas for football, frisbees etc. It would be a great day for a picnic, since it is a large park one entance is near to Baker Street Tube Station(nr Madam Tussaud's wax works), which is about a 5 minute bus ride to Oxford Streert/Marble Arch. Another end is near Camden Town(think about the Camden markets etc). This I believe, would be a good place to show folks coming from abroad cos of the touristy feel. So folks, whatdyathink ? |
Family / Re: Are Men Really Scarce Or Rare For Marriage? by Africaman: 9:44pm On Jul 24, 2006 |
@Grafikdon, what about the guy she jilted after their traditional wedding ? And the girl herself, what is she doing now ? How about her family, what are they saying now ? |
Celebrities / Re: Craig David: I Just Love This Guy by Africaman: 9:45pm On May 08, 2006 |
The track on his 2nd album "Rise and Fall" featuring Sting was quite good too. Does anyone here like it ? 1 Like |
Family / Re: Can A Husband Forgive Wife Caught In Adultery? by Africaman: 7:50pm On Apr 25, 2006 |
I will forgive her, afterall God has forgiven my SIN through Christ Jesus my Lord. However, the marriage will be at an end. |
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