thoth:
You ignorance and arrogance is alarming, someone presented you with facts and articulated his points in clear,comprehensible and verifiable form and all you have as a response is some garbage.

Ignorant and arrogant? No my friend, you are the one presenting biased and mishap points! Just let me know if you are willing and ready to read/listen to my own facts/points then I will roll out the drums for you.
But if you are not interested, then I will take it you are just here to troll and bash people for no cause. Just let me know you are ready to be reasonable then I will illuminate you with facts, ok? Thank you

LagosShia: I really felt sick (reading this thread) with all the ignorance people come to pour into Nairaland.i never knew my thread made it to the front page.the front page turns threads into pile of rubbish posts,as it attracts everyone into the thread.

please Seun should do something to raise the quality of his forum.most people are are idiots!!!

many mistake Iran for an arab country,and use the six day war between Israel and some arab countries (using hunting guns to fight Israel,which was using superior American weapons) to write off Iran.Iran is Persian,not arab.

many also call Iran "book haram sponsor".Iran cannot sponsor book haram because Iran and boko haram are ideologically miles away.over 90% of Iranians are Shia Muslims.most arab countries (with the exception of Bahrain,Lebanon,and Iraq) are majority Sunni Muslim countries.Saddam Hussein was a secular Sunni Muslim dictator governing a Shia majority Iraq.

many here think Iran is a terrorism sponsor.Iran simply support the Sunni Palestinians and Shia Hezbollah in Lebanon because Israel invaded and occupied Palestinian and Lebanon lands.but as we know,anyone against Israel is considered a "terrorist" or a "racist anti-Semite".iran says it supports all oppressed people around the world.the Shia ideology opposes oppression because of the legacy of Imam Hussein (as),the grandson of Prophet Muhammad (sa),who was oppressed and beheaded in Karbala.so Shia Muslims say they stand against injustice,tyranny and oppression.also,the Iranians particularly feel oppressed by the americans when their king was still in power in iran.the king or shah of iran was a western puppet.the American CIA engineered a coup in iran to overthrow a democratic government in the 1950s,and to replace it with more power for the shah.when Ayatollah Khomeini led the revolution in Iran,he was only responding to the aspirations of Iranians,who looked up to the Shia clerics based in the Shia Islamic holy city of Qom,in Iran.since then diplomatic relations soured after the revolution was successful.the shah was deposed and American interests and domination of iran ended.

groups like boko haram,alqaeda and other terrorist groups that kill innocent people for having different beliefs,are Sunni,and follow the Wahhabi/Salafist ideology.the Wahhabis/Salafists are very much opposed to Iran and consider the Shia as "heretics".just as boko haram kills Christians in Nigeria,Wahhabi/Salafist groups like alqaeda kill Shia Muslims in Iraq and Pakistan.in the last 3 decades,over 20,000 Shia Muslims have been killed by the salafists/Wahhabis in pakistan.the Saudi monarchy is based on wahhabism,the same ideology that alqaeda and the terrorist groups around the world giving muslims a bad image,subscribe to.but Saudi Arabia is America's number one ally.

alqaeda was engineered in Afghanistan by the American CIA and bin laden was their agent to fight the soviet union.he later turned against them because the Wahhabi/salafist takfiri ideology is built on killing the Christian kaffir and Shia "heretics".this is not Islam and the Shia don't share this view.presently in Syria,the Americans through its allies (turkey,saudi Arabia and Qatar) are backing Jubhat al-Nusra,a boko haram-like group and an affiliate of alqaeda with the salafist/Wahhabi ideology,to fight against the regime of Bashar al-Assad.bashar al-assad in Syria is pro-iran and supports Hezbollah in neighboring Lebanon,and therefore his regime is anti-Israel.again the west is supporting in Syria (as it did in Afghanistan) those it would later call terrorists,and used to tarnish the image of Islam and the reputation of Muslims.

many here post out of sheer ignorance and religious sentiments.israel of the old which was founded by prophets of God who even Muslims believe in,is not the same Israel of the present.israel (as presently applied) is a misnomer.the name pure deception to win religious fervor.israel of present is built on occupation of Palestine,and displacing the indigenes of Palestine who share jewish and Israelite genes,but are presently muslims and speak Arabic instead of Hebrew.with the coming of islam and the Arabians,the indigenes of Palestine,like those black africans in sudan were Arabized/assimilated and they intermarried with the Arabians.judaism predated islam in Palestine.islam as a belief system is alien to Palestine.but the muslims in Palestine are indigenous and were there before Islam.so no one can say the muslims "came" to meet the jews,because most indigenes were Arabized/islamized.that statement is not correct when considered that the muslims of Palestine (majority of them) did not come from elsewhere.israel is a racist or apartheid state that considers itself as a "jewish state".being a "jewish state" is racial and not the same as being an "Islamic state".anyone can be muslim,but not anyone can be jew.being a jew is both racial and religious at the same time.but being a muslim is not racial at all,and anyone can become muslim.and if a jew (like the Samaritans who are presently Palestinians,and other jews who are ancestors of Palestinians did) adopts Islam or another religion (even Christianity),he will stop to be considered as "jew".

many here give Israel some mystic aroma,and consider them "chosen people of God",and that Israel cannot be defeated.well,in 2006 Hezbollah in Lebanon held israel to a standstill war for 33 days.by the estimate of many,it was a war Israel lost and was unable to win,as Israel failed to accomplish the objectives that made it to launch the war.hezbollah is pro-iran and its weapons used in 2006 are Iranian made.

iran is a progressive country when it comes to military advancement and also in other science and technology fields.for the past 30 years,it has developed its military with home made weapons,mostly long range and sophisticated missiles that can reach Israel,among other weapons.you can check this:

https://www.nairaland.com/908175/progress-iran-under-islamic-regime

iran has not threatened Israel going by the statements of Ayatollah Ali Khamanei,who once served as Iran's president in the 1980s to early 90s.he is simply replying to Israeli and American threats to attack iran.both America and Israel have nuclear weapons.iran says its nuclear program is purely for peaceful,civilian and non-military purpose.

Woah! Woah! Woah! Hold it right there, gentleman! Have you not heard? No nation or man has ever declared that a country should be wiped out of the world map except the Iranian man? Google it and see! Israel was declared by these Iranian blood suckers as a nation that needs to be wiped out of the world map! And as for the "Chosen people" you refer to as "myth", well I have loads of proofs for you. In the meantime let me see how you respond to this first, then I would come banging on you with shocking revelations about the foundation and time line of terrorism. Enjoy

LagosShia: I really felt sick (reading this thread) with all the ignorance people come to pour into Nairaland.i never knew my thread made it to the front page.the front page turns threads into pile of rubbish posts,as it attracts everyone into the thread.

please Seun should do something to raise the quality of his forum.most people are are idiots!!!

many mistake Iran for an arab country,and use the six day war between Israel and some arab countries (using hunting guns to fight Israel,which was using superior American weapons) to write off Iran.Iran is Persian,not arab.

many also call Iran "book haram sponsor".Iran cannot sponsor book haram because Iran and boko haram are ideologically miles away.over 90% of Iranians are Shia Muslims.most arab countries (with the exception of Bahrain,Lebanon,and Iraq) are majority Sunni Muslim countries.Saddam Hussein was a secular Sunni Muslim dictator governing a Shia majority Iraq.

many here think Iran is a terrorism sponsor.Iran simply support the Sunni Palestinians and Shia Hezbollah in Lebanon because Israel invaded and occupied Palestinian and Lebanon lands.but as we know,anyone against Israel is considered a "terrorist" or a "racist anti-Semite".iran says it supports all oppressed people around the world.the Shia ideology opposes oppression because of the legacy of Imam Hussein (as),the grandson of Prophet Muhammad (sa),who was oppressed and beheaded in Karbala.so Shia Muslims say they stand against injustice,tyranny and oppression.also,the Iranians particularly feel oppressed by the americans when their king was still in power in iran.the king or shah of iran was a western puppet.the American CIA engineered a coup in iran to overthrow a democratic government in the 1950s,and to replace it with more power for the shah.when Ayatollah Khomeini led the revolution in Iran,he was only responding to the aspirations of Iranians,who looked up to the Shia clerics based in the Shia Islamic holy city of Qom,in Iran.since then diplomatic relations soured after the revolution was successful.the shah was deposed and American interests and domination of iran ended.

groups like boko haram,alqaeda and other terrorist groups that kill innocent people for having different beliefs,are Sunni,and follow the Wahhabi/Salafist ideology.the Wahhabis/Salafists are very much opposed to Iran and consider the Shia as "heretics".just as boko haram kills Christians in Nigeria,Wahhabi/Salafist groups like alqaeda kill Shia Muslims in Iraq and Pakistan.in the last 3 decades,over 20,000 Shia Muslims have been killed by the salafists/Wahhabis in pakistan.the Saudi monarchy is based on wahhabism,the same ideology that alqaeda and the terrorist groups around the world giving muslims a bad image,subscribe to.but Saudi Arabia is America's number one ally.

alqaeda was engineered in Afghanistan by the American CIA and bin laden was their agent to fight the soviet union.he later turned against them because the Wahhabi/salafist takfiri ideology is built on killing the Christian kaffir and Shia "heretics".this is not Islam and the Shia don't share this view.presently in Syria,the Americans through its allies (turkey,saudi Arabia and Qatar) are backing Jubhat al-Nusra,a boko haram-like group and an affiliate of alqaeda with the salafist/Wahhabi ideology,to fight against the regime of Bashar al-Assad.bashar al-assad in Syria is pro-iran and supports Hezbollah in neighboring Lebanon,and therefore his regime is anti-Israel.again the west is supporting in Syria (as it did in Afghanistan) those it would later call terrorists,and used to tarnish the image of Islam and the reputation of Muslims.

many here post out of sheer ignorance and religious sentiments.israel of the old which was founded by prophets of God who even Muslims believe in,is not the same Israel of the present.israel (as presently applied) is a misnomer.the name pure deception to win religious fervor.israel of present is built on occupation of Palestine,and displacing the indigenes of Palestine who share jewish and Israelite genes,but are presently muslims and speak Arabic instead of Hebrew.with the coming of islam and the Arabians,the indigenes of Palestine,like those black africans in sudan were Arabized/assimilated and they intermarried with the Arabians.judaism predated islam in Palestine.islam as a belief system is alien to Palestine.but the muslims in Palestine are indigenous and were there before Islam.so no one can say the muslims "came" to meet the jews,because most indigenes were Arabized/islamized.that statement is not correct when considered that the muslims of Palestine (majority of them) did not come from elsewhere.israel is a racist or apartheid state that considers itself as a "jewish state".being a "jewish state" is racial and not the same as being an "Islamic state".anyone can be muslim,but not anyone can be jew.being a jew is both racial and religious at the same time.but being a muslim is not racial at all,and anyone can become muslim.and if a jew (like the Samaritans who are presently Palestinians,and other jews who are ancestors of Palestinians did) adopts Islam or another religion (even Christianity),he will stop to be considered as "jew".

many here give Israel some mystic aroma,and consider them "chosen people of God",and that Israel cannot be defeated.well,in 2006 Hezbollah in Lebanon held israel to a standstill war for 33 days.by the estimate of many,it was a war Israel lost and was unable to win,as Israel failed to accomplish the objectives that made it to launch the war.hezbollah is pro-iran and its weapons used in 2006 are Iranian made.

iran is a progressive country when it comes to military advancement and also in other science and technology fields.for the past 30 years,it has developed its military with home made weapons,mostly long range and sophisticated missiles that can reach Israel,among other weapons.you can check this:

https://www.nairaland.com/908175/progress-iran-under-islamic-regime

iran has not threatened Israel going by the statements of Ayatollah Ali Khamanei,who once served as Iran's president in the 1980s to early 90s.he is simply replying to Israeli and American threats to attack iran.both America and Israel have nuclear weapons.iran says its nuclear program is purely for peaceful,civilian and non-military purpose.

Woah! Woah! Woah! Hold it right there, gentleman! Have you not heard? No nation or man has ever declared that a country should be wiped out of the world map except the Iranian man? Google it and see! Israel was declared by these Iranian blood suckers as a nation that needs to be wiped out of the world map! And as for the "Chosen people" you refer to as "myth", well I have loads of proofs for you. In the meantime let me see how you respond to this first, then I would come banging on you with shocking revelations about the foundation and time line of terrorism. Enjoy

ayosmiles: each time i read about israeli-arab issues either with palestine or iran, the level of ignorance, bigotry, and fanaticism expressed by many is alarming. Many professed christians don't even study history or analyze issues properly based on knowledge but base their opinions on primitive stereotypes. People follow a particular ideology blindly because of what they feel or what some people who they respect have made them to beleive about a book that guides their thought.

having said that, we need to get this straight.

1. The israel of the Bible is different from this israel though the core of the present israel is also jews. there are many israel citizens that are non-jews and many young jews are more secular than jewish.

2. Adolf hitler(a christian) killed more than 5million jews in the holocaust. At the time he did this, the arabs were friendy to the jews.

3. For a long time in the palestinian land, jews and arabs lived side by side in peace and the arabs were so hospitable that they allowed more jews to settle there though they were dominant then. Perhaps they shouldn't have allowed those jews to buy land in palestine.

4. The Iranians are not Arabs, though they are muslims. they have been existing as a nation for more than 3,000 years and have retained their cultural identity. Such an original nation is diff from an artificial entity like nigeria. It is homogenous and proud of its heritage. Such a state cannot be easily defeated, hence the hesitation by western powers to invade.

5. Muslims are not terrorists. I am a christian and I know this as a fact. Turkey is predominantly moslem and it is one of the most tolerant and developed countries in the world.

6. Israel is a racist state; how can you create a state and call it jewish? it means the state is created for jews and all non-jews are second class citizens. How then do you want the palestinians to surrender to them when they know that living under israel is lifetime slavery.

7. The first king to proclaim a constitution of freedom and tolerance was an iranian; king cyrus of persia was benevolent to the jews, allowing them to go back and practice their own religion.

8. Historicaly, the iranians don't hate jew. Today, the iranians are only fighting for survival. they have not attacked the west, but the west and israel have been threatening to invade them. The only thing to do is to plan to defend yourself.

9. Many prominent christians including desmond tutu of south africa, late hugo chavez of venezuela and fide castro of cuba have spoken against Israeli policies and supported the palestinians because they liken what israel is doing to appatheid.

10. It is unfair and illogical to say israel has been predestined to conquer the arabs because that presupposes that God is a racist God and that might is right. if you are african, and you believe this, then it is the right of the whites to dominate you and carry your ancestors into slavery. You don't need to complain then if a western country invades you and dominates you.

Sure u don't know a thing as a Christian!!! Try reading the Bible first, then u can read the Quran to understand the magnitude of your blunder here... But hey! There is no need! Someone else has helped you out with this http://prophetofdoom.net/

I Ddey laugh o!
in 4G. The film wey we don already watch for Ezekiel 38 and Revelation 9. Gog as a man from Iran and Magog, Iranian accomplices shall all be leveled up the day dem try attack God chosen one! The scriptures don't lie

[color=#006600][/color][quote author=frosbel]of course he would , two sides of the same coin, Islam and Catholicism.

of course Islam and Cathloticsm have a lot in common....