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beefy23:
Sorry, missed the commas - but anyhow, Govt as we currently define/practise it in Naija - results in the situation described above.

I give up

beefy23:
Not quite true - if you're a Senator, State Governor or perhaps even a Local Council Chairman - you've got it made!

I am sure you saw the invited comas?lol

Actually those ones are thieves. The govt did not make them rich, they steal from the govt.

OYB thanks for the abuses. I am very sure you do not know me.

Doctors are the highest paid professionals anywhere in the world. We are still saying the same thing.

No one in public service earns more than the doctors in Nigeria. If you have any example tell me but do not mention the politicians who are thieves.

You mention that doctors in the UK earn £8000K, which category of doctors?  Did you hear about the disparity between the remuneration of GPs that own sugeries and those that work for them? Did you hear about the threat to break away and form a new union as the pay package only favours the sugery owners? This is a week old.

Have you heard the reason why the £100k increment was implemented in the UK for the GPs? Even at that, an average GP who does not have a surgery earns about 50K which was why they wanted to break away and form their own union that will protect their interest? The 100k was implemented for them to work more hours but recent survery says, 'that is not the case' and the public is enraged.

Even the regs earn less than the GPs.

Now do you know that anybody who earns more than £37k in the UK pays 40% tax?

Do you also know that the financial consultants, the bankers et al as listed by whobemumu earn way above the doctors in the UK.

In my last post i said something about litigations. How many doctors have been dragged to court in Nigeria even when it is easy to send a drunk with head injury to hell with a shot of pentazocine in many hopsitals? These are some of the reasons why these guys are paid more.

And you talked about number of years spent. If you count that, then you should be paying academic doctors more than anybody.

On the basic level
Doctors spend only 1 year more than
some other health professionals in Nigeria- pharmcists, medical laboratory scientist etc. They also go for 1 year training (internship).

Go to eastern europe, most people are going into architecture because it is what pays. Doctors are not the best paid!. They still have good and stable health system. Not just one country. The balkan countries in generally have this structure at the moment.

Please I do not to mean demean in anyway the good work doctors do, but demands should be based on sound reasoning and not whipped up sentiments.

They should be paid well just like everybody in Nigeria. They are already the best paid.

Doctors should not compare themselves with those working in financial sectors.

If you want to make extra dosh as a doctor, just answering a doctor is not enough. it can only give you a platform to make it big. but the govt cannot make you 'big'.

And about those employed in private clinics, you can agree with me that whatever NMA squeezes out from the looters hardly affects them. In fact even some doctors in state hospitals do not even get as much as those in the federal.

I do not think you can use them to make a case. I forgot to tell you that I know some Regs that earn at least 250k/month. One just left a state teaching hospital where he used to take calls with about 140K to an FMC where he does not take any calls but earns 250K/month. Because of the excess time he has, he decided to open a private clinic. What can you say about that?

Thank you my dear. Those guys in your list are not in public service. they are all in private companies.

Remember I said 'apart from the politicians' who we know steal our money.

You see as it stands the doctors are the best paid staff in public or let me use civil service in Nigeria.

The remuneration of workers in Nigeria is generally poor. The economy is not good due to poor management and corruption. So the doctor's pay at present still reflects the state of the economy.

You cannot compare your pay in the UK and may be those in the US with Nigeria.

1. Doctors in those countries are prone to litigation and are insured against such which is one of the reasons why their pays are higher than others. Even in the US, some states with high rates of litigation attract higher wages.

2. The Nigerian doctors apart from the house officers do not put in the same number of hours this guys put in over here. After morning rounds, if the consultant is not around, the only doctors you can see around are the house officers on call in most hospitals.

3. The cost of living in this countries are far higher than is obtainable in Nigeria.

Someone earning £1000(250K) in naija is better than some one earning £2k in the UK.


If anyone thinks being a doctor is get rich quick route, it is wrong. You can be comfortable on average.
If you want to get rich quick one should opt for the finance sector and not medicine. Medicine has prestige and with extra hardwork and investment which has to be personal one can be rich.

Yea I know. You can only do that as a HO in most hospitals. They are maltreated but the Reg's do not have to do such most times.


I only asked a question who no one has answered. Who else besides the politicians earn more than the doctors in public service in Naija?

You are talking about the hours you put in as a house officer in naija or as a Reg? Which hospital if you can tell?

Are you on call everyday?

And BTW how long ago did you leave Naija?

bricklayer in Nigeria or where you are now?

Dav.e

I asked a question and I think you may be able to answer that question.

agabaI23:
Doctors do a crucial job. They should be paid well.

But in Nigeria, who earns better than the doctors in the public sector?
Any answers will be appreciated!!

Could you please help?

Bigmodo
Where have you been?
have you returned from . . . . . Thank God you are still alive!

Presido
Okwu gi wee buru gini? Biko tinyekwa picture gi na profile ka anyi hutagodu. i nugo Okorobia mara mma

Akara m obi tinye nke ma ogbawaghi computer m ma o buru Tosh
Tinye nke gi O gaghi agbawa computer.

Doctors do crucial job. They should be paid well.

But in Nigeria, who earns better than the doctors in the public sector?
Any answers will be appreciated!!

You guys should go and study and stop whining. When you spend your time doing nothing believing you can always run things how could you accuse the exam bodies if you do not pass?


Whatever happened to hardwork.

THIS IS NOT FROM VANGUARD. This is from Guardian.

Audit exercise: 11 more banks in need of recapitalisation


CBN plans town hall meeting with shareholders
By Ade Ogidan, Business Editor
The financial examination report of Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) may have found wanting, 11 of the 14 banks audited in the second phase of the current "cleansing" exercise, with a concomitant directive from the apex bank for their recapitalisation.

The development is coming on the heels of suspicion, distrust and alleged mischief that have become the operating words between the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) and shareholders of the banks.

There were strong indications yesterday that the 11 banks would raise funds from the bond market, even as moves from CBN suggested that some foreign investors were being encouraged to stake interest in the financial institutions.

One of the 11 banks, which has been recording operational losses in the last three months, has been asked by CBN to make further provision for N150 billion in its accounts, to address its bad debt loan portfolio.

The profile of the remaining 10 were said to be similar, with indications that some of their chief executive officers and directors would also be eased out of office soon.

Indeed, four of the five banks cleared in the first phase of the audit exercise were said to require further recapitalisation, over assessed dark spots in their respective books, which has now raised doubts over their well-being.

For instance, First Bank, where Sanusi, until few months ago, held sway as its chief executive officer, has secured approval to raise a N500 billion bond.

Analysts queried the sledgehammer slammed on the five troubled banks' directors, who were collectively alleged to be exposed to over N700 billion bad loans, when the five that were given clean bill were actually assessed to have over N900 billion non-performing loans in their books.

With relatively positive balance sheets being displayed by some of the banks with substantial foreign interests, Sanusi is expected to use a planned town hall meeting to persuade Nigerian shareholders to embrace the option of the financial institutions' shares to foreign investors.

Sources disclosed that Sanusi, who may soon embark on a reach-out mission to shareholders of the banks, plan to reel out the benefits that will accrue to them if the banks are sold and the financial devastation they will suffer if they decide otherwise.

The planned town hall meeting, the sources further stated, was a consequence of the opposition from various shareholders' groups to the take over of the banks by foreign investors, through the prompting of CBN. The foreign interests who are being suspected to be mere fronts to predetermined local groups.

Already, some shareholders of Oceanic Bank Plc, have dragged the CBN, its governor; Sanusi and three others before the Federal High Court in Lagos.

The case, filed by the shareholders' counsel, Ajibola Oluyede, accused the CBN of taking actions "detrimental to the interests of its Oceanic Bank shareholders and depositors." The other respondents are John Aboh, the current managing director of the bank, Cecilia Ibru, the former managing director, and Hayford Alile, chairman of the bank.

In the suit the shareholders are claiming that the CBN usurped the shareholders' power by sacking Mrs. Ibru and that no fund can be injected into the bank, in form of equities, until such a proposal is ratified by the shareholders at a duly convened general meeting.

Also, the applicants, citing Sections 102, 124, and 166 of the Companies and Allied Matters Act, are challenging the authority of the reconstituted Board of Directors of the bank to "offer for subscription, or sell and/or allot shares, stock or any form of securities in the Bank."

The applicants also want the court to decide whether the CBN and its governor can "acquire and or dispose of (by sale or otherwise) the interest of all the shareholders of the Bank, including restructuring of the Bank without the participation and consent of its shareholders."

Following the audit of the 10 banks, CBN cleared five of them. They are United Bank For Africa, First Bank, Diamond Bank, GTBank and Sterling Bank. It sacked the management of Oceanic Bank, Intercontinental Bank, Afribank, Finbank and Union Bank, on the strength of alleged non-performing loans of over N700 billion.

[url=http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/business/article01//indexn2_html?pdate=110909&ptitle=Audit%20exercise:%2011%20more%20banks%20in%20need%20of%20recapitalization]Source[/url]

Andoakaa the worst nightmare of this administration.

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Another gentleman asks to be put through to a local station because he has left his coat on a bus, while another woman tells the operator she has "no credit on her phone".

. . .One woman calls the emergency number because a car is blocking a road, adding: "It's in the middle of the road and there's no way to get round it."

Hello 999? I've Left My Coat On The Bus

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1. ebule nwere oyu mkpuru amu
2. udele gbara aji nisi
3. Mbekwu amuru na ubochi ahia eke
4. ogumagana di ocha
5. Aji otu nwanyi turu ime ejima isato
6. Ara mkpi
7. Eze (tooth) agu.

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romsky:
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If you want to pat me on the shoulder, go ahead!