₦airaland Forum

winj3:
The United nations also said it - India is poorer than the poorest African nations.
https://www.bbc.com/news/10609407

Watch this video by an Indian analyst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4jSp8l172s

Leave them to lie to themselves. I do work from home jobs, we have Indians in our groups and they tell the truth. UN data that is just pure western propaganda. The video you shared is one of many. Delusional Indians will say you are a Pakistan supporter when you tell them the truth. I love how in 2025 they are being exposed.

DeathParade:
Open the UN Development Programe's 2022 report on a multidimensional poverty index.
If the deprivation is more than 50% , it is termed as extreme poverty.
If it is less than 50%, it is termed as poverty.

The 1% figure given by World Poverty Clock is of Extreme Poverty, not Poverty.

Know the difference. The data does not lie.





You have a bias and it shows. I presented hard data from reputable sources like UN, World Bank and World Poverty Clock.

You counter with some random video of some random commie economist. And you counter with fake Chinese propaganda about Apple's India move, which is debunked by a simple Google search on how many iPhones have been produced in India yoy this past decade. All based on videos.

You claim there are multiple videos. It is clear that you get your facts from youtube whereas I get them from actual reports by reputed institutions. Anybody with the bare minimum intellect knows which type of source is more trustworthy. I don't need to debate videos vs actual, verifiable UN and World Bank reports.

You try to set up a strawman argument claiming that "India was bragging about being at par with China" when neither I personally not the Government of India officially, EVER claimed anything like this.

It is amply clear to me that you are not interested in a serious discussion, you would rather push the agenda that feeds your confirmation bias. So I am not interested in engaging with you.

Lol, 🤣🤣 truth is too bitter for you to swallow. I showed you a video from an economist from India showing accurate data on the subject. You are quoting UN data that is known as bullshit. Multiple videos and articles of economist showing proof.Whatever you are smoking is the real deal. It got you all twisted up to a false reality. India government did indeed claim to be on par with China. It was what started the whole investigation in the first place. You either a troll or someone who is delusional. Either way you definitely screwed. 😂

DeathParade:
UN development program report on Multi Dimensional Poverty Index 2022, India lifted 415 Million people out of multidimensional poverty in last 15 years alone.

Today, only 1% of Indians live in extreme poverty as per World Poverty Clock
https://worldpoverty.io/

A significant number of you folks are woefully misinformed about India it seems. Maybe a product of confirmation bias.

You are the one greatly misinformed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4jSp8l172s?si=zFWG9QSV7nnhbwEb

You can watch an Indian economist summary of India for yourself. Throughout 2025 people have been exposing the reality of India. They were bragging to be on par with China. Last year Apple tried moving production to India and India failed in spectacular fashion. Apple had to double down on manufacturing in China. There are multiple independent journalist videos showing the reality of India. The real India not put on paper.

90% of Indians live in poverty, that's over a billion people. That's more people than sub Sahara region of Africa which UN and WHO claims to be the world poorest regions. The GDP, net profit, gross profit of India poorest people is less than sub Sahara region. The country is filled with unhealthy outdated practices.

Qadaffi2idiamin:
Maybe you need to study more. Once nations start pulling the plug on paying for oil with the green it starts going down the hill. Once the gold bars owned by Germany and the rest including those stolen from Iraq en mass gets missing from Fort Knox, the dollar becomes the kwasha.

You think the US wants nations paying and doing business in greens because it's beautiful? Nah... it's because they understand the foundation of fiat. The banks or the reserve as you call it issue the paper but the real measure is in oil and gold now evolving into crypto currency like bitcoin which most government are buying without Apologies. Only these old buffoons in Nigeria that can't see tomorrow keep a restriction on it.

You are the one who needs to study more. Fiat was created in the 70s when USA oil and gold reserves couldn't sustain their economical growth and military expansion. Cryptocurrency is an offspring of Fiat. Bitcoin was meant to be revolution against the current IMF and FIAT banking system. But it ended up becoming a tool. Despite how cryptocurrency are advertise, one constant stats that has been shown is the high rate of poverty it has created during its wake. No new outlet take about the amount of money that has been lost to crypto, how easy it is to lose your wallet, how they make it impossible to recover your wallet. And how nothing is backing it. You think the Chinese government were stupid when they banned it from their country? What's backing it? Nothing other than trust me bro. And at their own convenience they drop and increase the currency when they want. Cryptocurrency has made more people poor than it made rich people, that's a system that does transfer of wealth, not make one.

ejieddy:
The day oil is priced by anything other than the dollar, you will see the dollar tumble. Why do you think the US is against BRICS and their plan for a unified currency? Why is the Donald courting the middle east ever so more?

You can check the Internet, FIAT system is what we have been using to determine currency strength. BRICS is a threat because they don't use dollar or swift payment system. BRICS is also a second market to Russia and China. USA is having an economy battle with both nations by placing sanctions on them, especially on Russia. BRICS doesn't recognize USA authority and ignore said sanctions. When USA stopped EU from buying Russia gas, India and China simply bought it and supplied it back to Europe. When USA tried to limit soy bean export to China, Brazil simply took over. During Joe Biden hostile last few months in power, China built an automated port in Peru worth $4 billion to prepare for Trump. That's the power of BRICS. It's destroying USA monopoly on the international market. Without USA monopoly, their true currency value will come out and their $35 trillion debt will more than double leaving to a civil war that expects say will lead to the country splitting up.

Qadaffi2idiamin:
Are you stoapit? US borrows based on economic indices, they have powers to print their currency without shrinking its value. Currency backed by oil and gold.

Ask yourself, what is backing the naira? Why borrow when the market is not driven by real investment from the inside rather jumping everywhere looking for foreigners to invest without developing the internal sectors. Omo make una dey use una head small nah.

Correction USA currency isn't backed by gold or oil. It hasn't been since the 70s. Also USA government doesn't print it's own currency. The federal reserve which is owned by the Rothschild family sells dollars to the USA government through bonds. Lastly the USA dollar value is determined by a FIAT system. Which is a trust system the USA created when they notice their gold and oil can not sustain their dollar value. The current currency market is regulated by FIAT and we are supposed to trust that $1 is really equal to 1700.

Harrynight:
If Nigeria choose not to borrow like US and the Nig Government lives within it reach and revenue generated without borrowing will the country collapse?

It will, all so called first world country borrow. Nigeria debt rate is a mere child to what the western countries owe. No developing nation can sustain itself in a long run without borrowing. Especially one like Nigeria. We have a trade deficit, meaning on our import and export front we import way more than we export. As a result our budget is bigger than our internal generated revenue. When you have a trade deficit and revenue deficit, you either borrow or reduce your budget by cutting fundings to certain sectors. It's risky and mostly fails. Take Argentina for example, their current president tried to stop borrowing by cutting fundings and selling government assets so they become debt free, but now the economy is worse than it was. Even in USA you see Trump trying to cut spending only to be met with protest and low approval ratings. Now you have courts trying to revoke some of his executive power. When in truth USA debt hasn't been an issue cause of their military power. In UK we see something similar with the country having to rely to immigration to sustain itself. The NHS workforce is at 70% immigrants workers. It's either they sort immigrants or borrow more to hire and pay local workforce. Our solution is to start local industries, reduce importing on certain goods, cut spending ( certain ministries should be shut down permanently) reduce government salaries, reduce the numbers of SA a governor can have, permanently stop the ghost worker program, and most importantly practice maintenance culture. We can not be creating a new road to solve the issue of a poorly maintained existing road, it's cheaper to maintain roads than build new ones. We should also remove certain incentives from the house of Senate and house of reps.

EponObi:
For those of you asking s I l l y questions about Cross River part now sited close to the ocean.

Cross River doesn't even share boundary with the Atlantic ocean. Simply checking the Nigeria map would have prevented you lots from embarrassing yourselves because of deeply-rooted hate. Una don move from bashing the Lagos portion to concentrate on Cross River. You will be disappointed again.

You know common sense isn't common. I rather judge the project once it's done. I have no degree in civil engineering, I have no clue how complicated the project is. I wish nigerians will learn to stop nagging a lot for the sake of nagging.

As usual bloggers must spin events to suit their narrative to mislead the public just to get views. Tomorrow if they come after you for false news you will be crying to verydarkman to come and rescue you.

Celestialsword:
The oil producing states has large and busy economic activities brought about by the monies that's circulating.

Go to places like warri,Benin city,uyo,and port Harcourt you will see beehive economic activities going on there

Nothing is going on in warri. The only thing people do here is keke driving, prostitution, betting, and yahoo. High cost of rent, no decent job, glorified flyover project the government don't know how to complete.

iwaeda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBEHkBzZM5Y

Nigeria Under Tinubu Economy: Lady Shows What ShopRite Ilorin Looks Like:

Nigeria Under Tinubu Economy: Lady Shows What ShopRite Ilorin Looks Like: pic.twitter.com/h4cMYLMrjI

— Somto Okonkwo (@General_Somto) May 22, 2025

This is how most supermarket are globally. Same in UK, USA, Canada and Australia. We don't produce anything, we import. Since 2020 global mid chain markets have been shutting down globally. We don't like to research on why things are happening, just blaming people is our hobby. Furthermore some of this ShopRite have issues with distributors due to mismanagement.

ranger123:
Don't blame the woes and failures of Nigeria and African countries on the west .Rather blame it on our leaders who are miopic in their thinking and don't have a progressive mindset.

The only development an African politician thinks about is it's own and family. The money they ought to use for infrastructural development, they will embezzle it.

Isn't it shameful that a whole president of an oil producing country would travel abroad to seek medical treatment?

Imagine the case of Ike Ekweremadu. If he had facilitated the development of a good hospital where major surgeries would be carried out, he would have just quietly done his daughter's surgery in the country where he can get away with anything. But he is in prison in a foreign country now.

I read about one African country politician that after successful surgery and treatment abroad, he came back and built a massive church. A church!!!! For crying out loud, does the west think for them ?? Omo!!! Africa problem too much abeg.

A bad society can't produce a good leader. A bad leader is a product of a bad society. Nigerians are to blame for bad leaders. We subject ourselves to inferior complex. The west is also to blame. Even senator Perry from USA has admitted to it. Some history professors in UK will tell you Nigeria are still under colonial rule till today. We practice corruption everywhere and instead of taking responsibility we blame our leaders. Is it our leaders that told South south to disregard agriculture and leave it to the north? We said we want white collar jobs with titles so we can beat our chest. During the oil boom we bought cars, drank beer and slept with all the ladies, no investment in tomorrow. We want our leaders to do everything for us. Give the average Nigerian $1 million, they will storm benz car sellers, buy Rolex, buy iPhones, chase after that girl is that rejected them. Start hanging out with celebrities. Then in 5 years time turn to I used to have money. Give it to someone from China, Japan, UK,etc and you will see them call financial advisors and plan for the future. What future did most Nigeria parents from the 70s, 80s and 90s leave for their children? Right from when I was born in the 90s, the story was Nigeria na hellfire, USA is heaven. We sang Nigeria jaga jaga, we sang to Africa China. Now we say those days were sweet. Why are we contradicting ourselves. Most of our ladies in the university rather sleep their way to graduate, guys rather pay to pass. Then we graduate certified illiterates into our work force and expect progress. Everyone wants shortcut, when the government start bringing in policies to move us forward, we find ways to cheat it. The billions that yahoo scamming has brought into the country, what did we use it to do? Look at Switzerland, they used stolen goods from WW2 to improve themselves, what is Swiss account. Isn't it an account to hide money? But yet they did not buy benz, they set up factories, invested in real estate housing schemes. Our people said no, our government must do everything. The same government that is a product of our corrupt society. We are expecting them to be magically different.

shortgun:
A serious government will investigate your observation but all know that will never happen with this administration

The post says application not disbursement. 100000 students can apply, and only 5000 will get. Let's read to comprehend. The stats simply shows how the north really can't afford advance education.

Nothing is wrong with the decision

This trend is funny. People saying their coke is superior really have no concept of how world economy works. Does saying units to degrade Nigeria really have no concept of how money works. A lot of Nigerians need to go back to economy classes.

Nigerianxpress:
You're making excuses for incompetence, if the so called developed countries's leaders had your same mindset, then they would still be stuck underdeveloped.

Those developed countries rely heavily on the stupidity of underdeveloped nations to prosper. It's why the west has had over 20 failed assassination attempts on Taore. The moment Nigeria decides to start being independent and forward thinking, religious wars and killings will start. Go listen to what senator Perry said about USAID and NGOS programs in Africa. Let's stop idolizing people who are doing their best to make sure we stay backwards, and let's start encouraging ourselves.

Offpoint1:
For the love of me, I don't see why relocating from your home land to a foreign land a success.

We are screwed up mentally as people, thanks to useless African leaders.

Imagine people making relocation to foreign land a prayer point, an ambition or dream... That's now fxxkedup we are as people.

It's not from our leaders. Even if you make Nigeria a heaven today, people will still Japa. We have serious inferiority complex. Like the saying goes, Nigerians only see Nigeria as a burial ground. We don't mind cleaning toilet as long as we are around the white man. Let Europe and Africa switch continents. Leave the infrastructure behind. Blacks will follow them to Africa even if they have to sleep on the streets.

DeathParade:
Your claims are as asnine as claiming that USA never landed on the moon. India designed EVERYTHING of the Tejas Mk1A fighter jet other than TWO THINGS: ENGINE AND EJECTION SEAT.

Look at the old photo below, that is the Mk1 version. See its almost mostly Indian. By officially state figures, 70% (by part count) of the Tejas Mk1 is Indian designed, developed and manufactured. That number is set to go up to 90% for Tejas Mk2. Everything from sensors, actuators, avionics, sensor fusion, weapons, fly by wire, composite structures, radome, landing gear, tires, brake discs, bubnle canopy, life support systems, etc EVERYTHING is all being developed in India FROM SCRATCH.

For the remaining 30% parts that are imported, see first photo is have posted and read below how most of those imported parts now have Indian analogues in design or testing and will shortly be replacing the imported parts

There are two Israeli flags in the photo I posted. One is for the radar, one is for the SDR. In the later Mk1A production models, instead of the Israeli radar, an Indian Gallium Arsenide AESA Radar named UTTAM AESA RADAR is to be used. That thing was developed completely in India. See photos below. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttam_AESA_Radar
The SDR is Israeli because Indian Air Force selected it for the entire air fleet. The SDR used by Indian navy is completely Indian designed and developed, so its not like we don't have the technology. Also the the Israeli SDR is manufactured in India by Indian company Astra Microwave Tech Ltd.

British flags are for ejection seat, IFR probe and radome. The new Indian radome and IFR probes have finished testing and will replace the British made counter parts. The Indian designed replacement of the British ejection seat is a recently started project and will take a few years to achieve satisfactory reliability.

French flag is for MFD. But now an Indian company BEL makes the MFD displays, so that is also history.

That leaves the American flag for the engine and the a Russian flag for the guns. The engine we can't make on our own yet. I wrote that in my first comment itself. This is the biggest technological challenge India is currently facing. And the Russian flag is for the guns, we are making that particular gun in India under license and don't want to reinvent the wheel because it's not something that we can't make or repair on our own (its not very high tech). Its low priority, so we'llkeep the Russian gun.



Indian missile and radar technologies have already crossed the critical threshold where we are making almost everything in India.

Its the same for hypersonic tech. India has DRDO HSTDV and ISRO ATV. Two separate scramjet engine programs that are completely Indian. The Russians claim they'll give us Hypersonic tech via BrahMos 2, but no deal for it has ever been signed. And Russians don't do charity. They make us pay through our nose for every single piece of tech they sell us. So your claims are bogus. Kindly read up more on the topic. You're woefully under/mis-informed.

And if you wish to claim that any particular part of what I claim to be Indian is not Indian, then please mention the exact part you are talking about and I will give you PROOF of it being Indian. This is my subject of expertise, so please go ahead and ask. Just ask one by one, don't make all those broad sweeping statements like the ones you made in your previous comment. Be specific. Like what exact thing in what exact jet is not Indian. And I'll give you accurate answer with proof. Or you can ask about a particular technology. Like radars, or missiles or focal planar arrays for use in IIR sensors, etc for example. When you are being specific, I can provide proof. So please be specific. Which tech do you think India doesn't have.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfdquRC1QTw?si=VdsopsSyWGFBlMP3

This is a video of the scientists and engineers that worked. This is just one video of a large series of videos. Just to give you an idea of exactly how, who and where the technology for Tejas was developed. Honestly, I think you are severely underestimating Indian technological prowess. India holds the world record for longest distance quantum entanglement communication over commercial optical fiber cables at around 380 km. India holds the world record for the deepest operation of a sea crawler for deep sea mining ops (Google NIOT Varaha). India is a rising technological juggernaut that countries like USA tried to sabotage many times. Yet India is developing tech that is being denied to it. Yet here you are, thinking that all Indian tech is just a hand me down from Russia or USA. If it was this simple, Nigeria would also have the same level of technological achievements that India has. There are no free lunches in this world.

Lol, 🤣 using Wikipedia as a source of information shows you don't even know what you are saying. It's a well known fact in the aviation community India has never produced a jet fighter independently. The primary core of very fighter is the engine. Then then avionics. Non is produced in India. From your logic, if I buy a car engine and electrical system from bmw to produce a vehicle. I independently produced that vehicle. I have been following fighter jet forums since 2012. Even the Indians in the forum never once claimed to produce a jet independently. Russia, China and USA all produce their jets independently. In the early 2000s China produced in collaboration with Russia. India is yet to produce any independent jet. Accept the facts as it is. India has no independently made fighter jet.

DeathParade:
Indian fighter jets of Indian design that weren't made in collaboration with USA or Russia:-
Retired: HAL Marut (First jet fighter designed in Asia to actually enter military service, ahead of China or Japan or Korea)
In service: LCA Tejas Mk1, Mk1A
In prototype stage: HAL Tejas Mk2, HAL AMCA
In design stage: HAL TEDBF

LCA Tejas Mk1 and mk1a are both designed by the India government in collaboration with GE Aerospace's who designs and manufacture the F404-GE-IN20 engines for the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

The jet they discontinued and the ones in prototype are all in collaboration with a company from USA and Russia. Same goes for the India hypesonic missile which is mostly Russia tech in an India body.

GE Aerospace's is in USA. The engine, avionics, missile guidance system, are not designed or manufactured in India. Only the body and system language is. No country buys India fighter jet because they know the direct source. They design the boby of their jets and test the aerodynamics. But all core component is imported.

DeathParade:
Thanks for the answers friends. Can you please tell me where I can read about Nigerian insurgency online to learn about it? I have just opened wikipedia, but I dont know if it is considered a reliable source for this conflict. Wiki has known to have biases... thanks in advance.


India does design and make its own fighter jets, starting right from raw material stage. Only in jet engine technology we are behind. But that doesn't mean we don't design and develop fighter jets independently.

India co produces it's fighter jets. Name one India fighter jet that wasn't in collaboration with Russia or USA?

Kemetian:
Nice one.

But it’s high time we started parading Nigerian-built fighter jets.

If Pakistan and India can manufacture fighter jets, nothing stops us from doing the same and more.

They don't manufacture jets independently. It's in Pakistan manufactures in colab with China, India with Russia. Most of India advance fighters are from France. And both countries invest heavily on military since they expect one day they will go all out on the battlefield. USA will not do collaboration with Nigeria, neither will France or UK. And they will not want us to invite Russia or China.

invectives:
I spend 3400 a month approx 5days a week power...AC,Fridge, Electric burner....ohhh I Bleep that shit up fi just 3.4k

Same here. Highest I spend in a month on light is 4k. And that's when I put on the water heater a lot. maybe they are servicing debt or the discos is taking them for a ride.

SmartPolician:
The statement didn't say they run a Ponzi scheme. It says they are not licensed. The company just needs to send one of their workers to meet the SEC so they can get that license. That company is too big for this.

Until they get their license, it will be seen as a ponzi scheme. Because they will only get it if their promise on returns is achievable. If it's not, then they will never get it.

More information is needed. I know some of their agents. What exactly is the ponzi scheme behind their operations? Are they getting lands illegally? Or did they suddenly shift into real estate scams?

Earthscience:
You are absolutely on point.
However you saying "we the previous generation failed" is not all true! If you say some of us in the previous generation, I will agree!

Evil isn't committed by those who commit the act alone, but also by those who watch and do nothing. We didn't do anything to prevent this. We just watched as education was reduced to rumbles.

Earthscience:
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE CURRENT YOUNGER GENERATION?

We the previous generation failed them. Most of us went to school and are struggling to make ends meet. What evidence do we have to show them that getting a higher degree is beneficial? You can have MR A who has a masters barely scraping along and on dept, while MR B who invested in cybercrimes and money laundering living it up. And our society will give more respect to MR B, infact sponsor MR B into politics and ignore MR A completely.

The problem isn't Nigerian women. The problem is the type of women that attracts you. There a millions of marriages going well, we don't hear of them because bad news spread faster than good news. Just change your mentality on what you want from a woman. Speak with couples in successful marriages. You will notice that serious ladies don't talk too much, they are loud, they don't strive to be trending. Clout chasers have no destination.

Politics is a game of interest. No same politician will stay in a sinking ship. You don't bring in emotions and sentiment to politics and expect to survive. It's a dirty game where the biggest con artist wins. No saints exist in politics. Just misguided followers who just love to be lied to.

Ironfaceman:
Shame on you sheriff for being a lap dog.

That's why China is rich and Nigeria is poor. Two nations that achieved independence almost the same time.

But in Nigeria there's no principle. For money and sex. A Nigeria man can kill his mother for worldly things.

Stop spreading misinformation. Who did China gain independence from? China is over 5000 years old. When have you seen them celebrating independence?

In a sane justice system, aren't all past leaders in Nigeria supposed to be in jail? Atiku has looted every office he worked under. Someone who was used as a case study in CIA and Homeland to explain corruption in Africa.

The major issue with SE is accountability. They rather blame others for their misfortune than admit fault.