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A40:
[s]You that claimed Javi would not play at CB on Carlo's arrival and could end up in the MLS. You are extremely phoolish. I don't have the time to be digging up your apoche cra cra quotes make you for no die of embarrassment. Omugo! Boateng would certainly play when he is fit, and I would be here to remind you of your folly[/s]

Your head is filled up with saw dust. You made no sense all over this thread and you have attracted eruditor and one other up barka neophyte, that one was flogged back to spain. You stated that aguero was overrated, if you have shame, you should be humiliated that your master couldn't back your position, because its reek assails every nose. He knows you are stvpid but finds it hard to tell you in public. If your boss could put aguero in tier 2, jut below ronaldo and messi, i was expecting you to reign curses on dayo' bald head. But inferiority complex would never let you attempt that. Ajakaja40

A40:
Agüero is very much overrated you stewpid old ewok. If you like you can jump into the Ogunpa River. [s]I have kuku told you your brain is like a candle in the sun.
Oya tell us who is the Boateng in the 3 Lions setup that has been ruining their good work. Ewu![/s]

Something your boss could not type here.

A40:
38 Mentions? Really?

Alaba at CB. Renato starts

By january when ancelotti replaces boathand with a solid CB, you will understand you have been stvpid arguing with me all this while.

wpoty2007

Eruditor:
LOL. Just as I suspected. Christiano IMO deserved it. Ok please now answer my question.

AdisaOwala:
With his paltry 3 CL goals that season?

Eruditor:
Guess what? I agree with you. Same way A40 cannot now be amiss to bring up Kaka's 8 Serie A goals and 4th place finish. I know the UCL is a bigger tournament.

This dude is more confused than mourinho.

AdisaOwala:
What is this again for Christ sake?

Did Columbia lift the WC in 2014? Where dem even reach for that particular tourney?

In 2007, Ac Milan won the CL with Kaka as top Scorer - he was the best player in an important tourney his Club won Oga.

I also clearly stated that he was also one of the best players in the world when he was at his prime.

Assuming you were an ardent poster here, you woulda known the people to ask that particular question

It's common knowledge that the most outstanding player in a triumphant team in the CL or WC is almost always certain to be the best player in either competition ....in the process boosting his chances of winning the WPOTY award DESERVEDLY - your Hames comparison (just like the others you've been making since morning) has flown off tangent yet again.

You really need to calm down, take a deep breathe & re-analyse the whole argument from the beginning.

When eruditor mentioned ronaldo, i gave up. That's why i didn't honour him with a reply. I didn't want to use bad words to qualify him, he just wasted my time. Davidbanky with bad grammars would come up with something better.

raumdeuter:
Murk me? You have the nous of an algae. No be your type dey murk anyone for here. You are the joke here

Then, is aguero overrated or not ? Dont be afraid of a40, if he dumps bayern today he cant join man utd, arsenal or chelsea. Barcelona and madrid fans wont welcome him. He has a lot to lose, he will go into oblivion while you remain the oponu chairman of bayernliga on nl. Do the needful, is aguero overrated?

raumdeuter:
[s]A40 said AGuero is an overrated player, first what do you understand by that statement?

You are notorious for being clueless that you cant locate your asss with both hands so I wont put it past you be foaming in the mouth as usual[/s]

Gbenu orun e soun. Simple Yes or No you couldn't give because you know i will use your past gibberish to murk you. Apari oshi, using question to answer question. orie to yo igun bi choko milo yen

Nihilist:
The WPOTY is award for actions performed in the past. Only a fool like yourself will try to qualify the award with future events.

GTFOH nigga.

I just weak for this eruditor. Is he from shahaniya?

Nihilist:
As in.

Egbon raumdeuter is a criminal. Very slippery mofo.

A40 on the other hand is brutally direct and straight to the point. If he wasn't an IT guy, he would probably be in law enforcement or the military

He will be shot dead in the barracks.

raumdeuter:
[s]Use your own sense for once, Many people here have explained the term to you yet you are still misbehaving like an out of control bicycle[/s]

A40 stated that aguero was an overrated player, is it true? Are you now afraid of your slave ? At least he still revers you, he is always scared of your bald head. Now tell him he is a f00l for that view.

Eruditor:
[s]
Like I keep saying this does not need to be another Us vs them argument. You can see the point without coloring it with your own perspective or dismissing it willy-nilly because the same can be done to your own point.

1. For instance, saying something is not feasible is not a tenable way to argue because it is feasible (and you gave one instance where it could be the case) and then insisted that it is the only instance that could warrant the case. In logical terms this is flawed. There are more situations where the fatest man in the world could have a perennially slower time than others. That's not even the essence of the analogy, the simple
question following it is will such a person be less-deserving of the term?

NB: Accepting a tag doesn't mean I can not feel the title overrates the person.

2. You reeled out Kaka's awards but I didn't see Serie A player of the year 2007 which I know he was awarded that same year. His team was 4th and he scored 8 goals in 31 games yet he was rated the best. Is that not also overrating his performances at least in the serie A that year? Do you expect the best player in serie A to have such a miniscule nearing insignificant impact on his league like Kaka did that year? So why is A40 being impugned for mentioning Kaka's serie A fiasco as part of his reason for him being overrated?[/s]

I asked you a simple question, who deserved wpoty 2007, if not kaka ? You wrote all those lines and couldn't give a name? You needed to use that stale trick of bringing other stuffs to change the course of arguement. Though , i saw many flaws in what you wrote but i will ignore them because i understand the trick. Just tell me the player that deserved it 2007.

raumdeuter:
What is your own opinion on that? I believe Aguero is a tier 2 player

I didnt ask you where he belongs. I asked, is he overrated? Let us know if a40 is getting ravaged in stvpidity.

Pa raumdeuter ramuzaki just as robben made his opinion known concerning Terry and boathand by demoting boathand and putting Terry in his best 11. Do you agree that aguero is overrated ? I need your Yes/No answer.

Eruditor:
I am not going to join issues WRT to who was deserving of the award in 07. Suarez has already told you people that it is a popularity contest.

Please, see my view point. If down the line say 4 years from now some X athlete wins the 100M dash in the olympics with a time say 11:04 secs and is crowned fastest man in the world, can I be allowed to say he is less-deserving of such an appellation compared to previous winners?

Or as Ronaldinho was awarded WPOTY in 2004 (which I felt should have been Henry) if he went on to play like Kaka did post-2007 won't I be allowed to say he was overrated? I am sure many of us that questioned Dinho's first WPOTY award felt he lived up to his billing subsequently.

Now I am saying this to show you how someone's subsequent performances can act as validation for if he is rated rightly or overrated.

No you are still very wrong. If someone wins 100m in 11.04 (which is not feasible) that year and it's the fastest that year, you have no choice to accept the tag. But when there are strange reasons for him returning that time as the best then we can say he doesnt deserve it. There's a reason they have records in athletics. I dont even want to go to the genesis of a40's stvpid views which rendered your earlier defence unwarranted. I think nihilist and others had settled that. If you say kaka didnt deserve wpoty 2007, proving it with his subsequent average performances made no sense. I asked you who deserved that world best in 2007 if not kaka, you refused to answer. That hazard is shinning now would not change the fact he played rubbish last season, so also if kaka didnt impress you after 2007, it will never take away the fact he was the best player in 2007.

Nihilist:
Oh so you know this one now...

But you didn't think about this when you were asking England with Paul Robinson, Wayne Bridge and Aaron Lennon to dominate like the dream team of 92 no?



Stand by your words like a man.

A40 is an animal as pataki put it. I have bookmarked where he confirmed you could be a success in a tournament without winning it, for future flogging.

Eruditor:
Your logic is sound but your intentions, iffy. It must not be an airmark vs A40 argument all the time. I can accept that Porto were crowned UCL winners of 04 and still feel that even within that year winning the UCL (and by extension being adjudged best team in Europe) was over -deserving. Same way I can accept that Kaka was crowned WPOTY in 07 and still feel it overrates him. If I choose to make my argument based on the quality of previous and subsequent winners of the same award I am not out of place whether the sport section bellicose crew agree with it or not.

Porto won 2004 ucl because they were the best that season, whether you like it or not. feeling they didnt deserve it could only be reasonable, if other opponents had plane crashes and porto were presented the cup without kicking a ball. May be they were pushed by referees' decisions all the way, you should tell us. There's a reason they called it wpoty 07 and not wpoty of 2007 to 2015. If you extend the dragnet, then it's unfortunate. You should even tell us who deserved to win it that year.

Eruditor:
Don't borrow their agbero style. You started civil keep it civil. I have no reputation to protect on nairaland.

1. If you say it is a relative thingy then what right do you arrogate to yourself to decide whether being great precludes being overrated. Again, I am saying that is my area of concern.

2. The issue of him being overrated can still come up within the ambits of him getting more credit than he deserves as well as when he is juxtaposed with other previous WPsOTY. If A40 makes a claim, he is allowed to set the limits of his claim. If he did so WRT comparing Kaka to other WPsOTY, then I agree with him.

3. Haba, how can you intentionally miss the point about those examples? All I am saying is, in those examples, the media and Mou were giving the respective players more credit than they deserved. In A40s case, Kaka being adjudged WPOTY in 07 was an overestimation. "Appropriate bodies" is moot. It is still subjective voting that is done.

Do you support this f00lish opinion ?

diggz:
Up barka

No wonder.

Pataki:
My English teacher 'thought' me, we should always use "it" for an animal.
Ajakaja40 aka 'Excel guguru' is an irascible animal.

a40 don suffer.

Eruditor:
[s]Oga, the English involved is not that involved to understand. You see what I did there? I used involved twice in different contexts and both hold up perfectly in English.

The synopsis of it all is, a great player can be rated far greater than he is supposed to be hence, the term OVERrated. If an award is introduced termed "greatest striker ever" and people are asked to vote but somehow Aguero wins the poll. We can safely say that award overrates him. In other words, we may accept that Aguero in his prime has been nothing short of lethal, but for any one to stretch it that far into naming him the greatest striker of all time will be overdoing it.[/s]

Conclusively, if we are to critically examine Kaka as a player from when he was adjudged best player in the world to when he petered out, it will appear that the WPOTY 2007 that he won perhaps overrated him.

Clowns everywhere. They tagged something wpoty 2007 and not 2007+ and you said it overrated him. So the award should not be given to someone who would not shine in subsequent years? How did we get here for christ sake? The same kaka that bossed everybody in 2006/2007. Man, wpoty has nothing to do with failure to impress subsequently. That year award was well-deserved.

diggz:
Bros you are wasting your time with this one..,...na olodorabata blowing grammer upandan!

what club is he supporting?

A40:
Ewu. Is that the only tournament he played in? [s]Your brains should be fed to boerbels, it is neither useful to you nor the society at large[/s]

Good to know you agreed that Terry was a success in world cup 2006 without winning the cup.

cc Pa ramuzaki raumdeuter.

AdisaOwala:
Kaka was a passenger in Brazil's squad at the 2002 WC - he only played 25 mins in the whole tourney!

A40, ghostmode ?

A40:
[s]I thought you were trolling but I can see you are genuinely confused.

That a team did not win a tournament does not mean they were failures at said tournament. The question is titles or not which major tournament can we say England succeeded at[/s]

I'm assuming you now understand you can be a success at a tournament without necessarily winning it

Terry was a success at world cup 2006 without winning the cup. Gradually, your brain will be formatted and primed subconsciously.

Nihilist:
Bruh I just weak.

I asked for titles but it doesn't matter of titles no dey...

Gosh...

A40 must be made of plasticine the way the twist turns and doubles back...

I am just laughing right here. It still has a lot to learn from dayo.

A40:
This is why I said you are chasing your tail. No gaffe was made

I asked for titles. I didn't say not winning them can be regarded as failure. Numerous teams fall into this bracket so your understanding is shallow, piss poor and laughable

Johan Cruyff never won a major international title. So please apply common sense

I was pretty clear when I stated why England could be considered failures and it had nothing to do with them not winning titles. You are pulling a strawman bruh

Pataki:
I am glad everyone is clearly now seeing the Excel guguru worksheet for who it really is.

Have you noticed how Apari Ramuzaki is using style/code to tell it to abandon its foolish arguments?

He is a joke. I have noticed you always use it for a40, is it because it is ajakaja ?

A40:
[s]You are a phoolish ewok. If only intelligence could be donated like blood perhaps your case would not be such a hopeless one. Who cares if he took 16 penalties in 300 seasons.[/s]
Focusing on goals scored via open play we can now see that Batistuta averaged .53 goals per game which gives him a negligible .02 edge on Elber. Which proves me right once again. [s]Considering Elber at times supported Jancker sef it would take someone under the influence of potent Abraka igbo to argue that they are not comparable[/s]

I will like to see how you look in real life. I am imagining a dejo tunfulu kinda look, it must be in tandem with senseless stuffs you spew here.

Pataki:

A40 is a tadpole. He needs ramuzaki to stand.

Emaprince:
He'll bench Matic.

Matic isn't too outstanding defensively and he isn't fantastic in attack as well. Atleast Naingolan is good at long range shots. I feel he can offer I little more. Than Matic.

No one can bench that workaholic called Kante!!

Yeah matic may sit, but i have a feeling that a left-footed midfielder is essential since alonso sometimes shows sign of weakness in that side of the pitch.

Nihilist:
I wasn't impressed with him then either, and I'm not sold on him now...

I just saw that fantastic move and wanted to share...

I remember i mentioned him last season. I call his type of player 'mechanic' . But who will he bench in the 3-4-3 system?

Nihilist:
Na wa o.

Shey we no fit post gif again ni?

That link may be faulty

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A40:
[s]Apoche cra cra you are a blind and dangerously daft mofo. What is the meaning of 'almost 20' you stewpid douchegoblin. You saw 'almost 20' and 'more than 15' and you are still asking me for how many seasons did he score 20 penalties. Your case na Labe Orun tins. Didn't they teach you how to count in that Ile keu ni?

Dosgbe. Why you dey run nau? Make I chop your money as e dey hot. Ewu Zambia[/s]

Stop disgracing yourself, if a player scored 16 penalties in over 12 league seasons, is that enough to demean him, by rating elber higher than him? You have problem analysing stats to reach informed conclusion. I can now see the reason you cant go past typing state and capital in excel worksheet and operating photocopier since 10 years.

Nihilist:
I don't even understand where Serie B came into the discussion as it's pretty clear here what the main line of argument was

A40, raumdeuter needs to replace you asap

A40:
Apoche cra cra I would gladly engage you on the Batistuta tip. He scored over 15 goals in League play (Serie A and Serie B) make I use your money collect room and carry kpekus go Renaissance. Game?

Keep lowering the numbers . For how many seasons did he score 20 penalties ?

A40:
You are a ret@rded egret. Batistuta scored almost 20 penalties in league play. Elber was never Bayern's default P.k taker. When I tell you Batistuta's numerous penalties also helped him edge Elber on goals try to STFU and listen. You have never had the upper hand against me on any debate and that is not going to change anytime soon. When I speak your only response should be Church. Preach. Tabernacle

Phoolish apoche cra cra

If i ask you to back the highlighted lines with your 4 months salary now , your lips will start shaking.

Nihilist:
I noticed that Dayo left him to stand alone on that one...

Aguero Overrated

Dayo knows how and when to desert the dolt.

A40:
Agüero, Higuain, ADM are very much overrated. But again you are missing the point like a free throw. Argentina can at least boast of narrowly losing out of all 3 trophies. Losing in the finals (close games) England cannot even get to semi final FFS so your example na offside

Apari raumdeuter ramuzaki, your boy believes aguero is overrated, is it true?

A40:
My friend there is levels to overrated.

Mumu ni eleyi sa.